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Jiang says Virgil is not acting humble before Statius; he is irritated because Statius should, by Virgil’s own pagan logic, not outrank him.
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Jealousy
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The Ivy analogy reframes Virgil’s reaction as recognizably human jealousy when a former student or admirer surpasses the master.
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Bromwich treats the sonnets as partly personal, saying they reveal Shakespeare's erotic intensity, attachment, suspicion, and jealousy, but only from within a post-Petrarchan genre that already shapes what can be said.
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Jiang imagines Virgil's dominant reaction to Dante's shadow obsession as impatience and frustration, with some jealousy possible, rather than satisfaction at controlling him.
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Jiang reads Virgil as ecstatic rather than bittersweet because this is the first moment in Purgatory where someone publicly values him above Dante.
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Jiang argues that Dante does not treat ego and disruptive emotions as things to be annihilated; jealousy, anger, and hatred are part of human imagination and must be worked through reflectively.
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Hellish envy would invert the same deprivation by making the person continue imagining other people's superiority without any corresponding self-reform.
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Jiang says the theory is then repeated and escalated with role reversals, culminating in the claim that shattering jealousy and possessiveness can repair the self.
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"don't know yeah okay but then why why is virgil you just you're saying that virgil's a humble guy but when sordello kisses the..."
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"here okay it's different because that is worships virgil but virgil really doesn't want to talk to him because he's a pain he's not..."
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"okay and then and then what was your name okay ivy okay 20 years later we ivy and i run into each other um..."
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"that you didn't make it that far yeah i mean i think everyone would be a bit jealous right it's not like dante or..."
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"...physical and other kinds of attachment um and also including suspicion jealousy um so you know the the sonnets are a personal statement to..."
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"now okay and how does virgil feel about all this what is going in the mind of virgil as he's seeing this anyone yes..."
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"...he's telling ver uh hurry up yes a little bit of jealousy i think jealousy right i think if i were a virgin i..."
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"okay sorry so let's let's let's figure out this okay so sordello says oh my god you are him you are the virgil um..."
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"why can't he be happier in his life yeah i mean he's gained he seems to have got a taste of the fame even..."
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"yeah uh he's pissed off for the dandy seems like dandy has gained more things over yes exactly right"
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"he's pissed about dante like why is starting more famous here than i am and now he meets someone like oh you're more famous..."
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"...of our imagination. These emotions that we have, whether it be jealousy, anger, hatred, they're part of who we are. And they help develop..."
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