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What makes the conspiracy story seem continuous, in Jiang's view, is not one immortal organization but the repeated behavior of elites who keep seeking more power, order, and control across different eras.
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Elite continuity
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Greg frames the recurring research problem as hidden continuity: powerful orders or ideologies may appear to die out publicly while passing themselves forward in darker, less visible forms.
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He presents modern Turkish leadership as still potentially marked by Dönmeh continuity, citing Ataturk's family background and rumors around Erdogan as signs that the line may still matter politically.
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Jiang cites captured Iraqi intelligence files from 2003 as evidence that regional actors themselves believed the Saudi royal family had Sabbatean or crypto-Jewish ties similar to those attributed to Turkish elites.
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Greg frames the key evidentiary issue as whether Jacob Frank merely overlapped chronologically with Adam Weishaupt or actually participated in the creation of the Illuminati through direct meetings and influence.
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"Alright, so they're gonna go back and they're gonna create their own history, and that's why people think that they stretch all the way..."
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"search for reason okay they are looking for the greatest secrets of the universe so they are open -minded they are looking for all..."
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"Well, that is a great opening pitch for sure. And that seems to be the kind of gray area that so many things that..."
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"Did this ideology really go away? Or is it still around in secret? And that's a hard thing to find a smoking gun for..."
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"How do you know your true faith in God? Because you're not afraid to break the laws of net. Your faith in God is..."
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"And that's just Turkey. In 2003, when the American military overran Iraq and they went to Baghdad and seized all the files of Iraqi..."
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"Aleister Crowley specifically, but it's this claim about the Illuminati that is most interesting, because that's formed by Isaac Weishaupt, or not Isaac, that's..."
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The conspiracy story is false as history and true as prediction.
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The interview begins with an old historical puzzle and turns it into a present-tense accusation: dead sects do not stay dead when their stories, inversions, and elite habits get embedded in modernity.
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