Followers of Sabbatai Zevi who converted publicly to Islam while preserving a hidden identity in Jiang's telling.
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Dönmeh
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Families said to convert with Zevi and preserve his teachings in secret.
Jiang uses Donmeh for the turncoat lineages he thinks linked late Ottoman, British, and Saudi elite formation.
The crypto-Jewish followers of Sabbatai Zevi who converted outwardly to Islam while preserving his inversion theology in secret.
Jiang claims Sabbatean/Frankist or Donmeh networks profited from the Ottoman debt regime and then financed the Young Turks when the Sultan turned toward Germany.
Jiang claims the Donmeh families who followed Zevi eventually controlled Turkey, naming Mustafa Ataturk as Donmeh.
Jiang proposes that the House of Saud descends from compromised crypto-Jewish or Donmeh lines and says he reaches that through first-principles inference rather than documentary proof.
Jiang says Zevi's conversion functioned as a redemptive act that absolved converted Jews, and the minority who grasped that logic followed him into Islam while keeping a crypto-Jewish Sabbatean faith.
He describes the Dönmeh as a small cluster of crypto-Jewish families who continued Zevi's inversion theology, including transgression and justification by sin, inside the Islamic world.
Jiang argues that Dönmeh families embedded themselves in upper Ottoman power and became central to the Young Turk movement, extending their relevance into modern Turkish state formation.
He presents modern Turkish leadership as still potentially marked by Dönmeh continuity, citing Ataturk's family background and rumors around Erdogan as signs that the line may still matter politically.
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"No, it's all theater. If you look at the history of the Middle East, it was created by the British Empire. The House of..."
"And then 300 families called the Dolme, it's called turncoat in the language. Turks. But they convert with the Turks. And the Dolme are..."
"Is this proven? I love Saudi Arabia. I travel there all the time. But what's the evidence of that?"
"Well, I mean, again, I don't actually use documentary evidence in my classes. I use a lot of first -principle thinking. But I'm trying..."
"the Messiah converting, what it does is that it absolves all Jews of the messiah, the Messiah converting, what it does is that it..."
"How do you know your true faith in God? Because you're not afraid to break the laws of net. Your faith in God is..."
"And this was the Ottoman Empire at its height in 1683. Remember, in 1666 is when Sabrelai Zevi declared himself the Messiah. And remember..."
"And so from now on, a third of all revenue, tax revenue, that the Ottoman Empire generated would go directly to the French and..."
"The Young Turks believed in three things. They believed in secularism, no religion. They believed in liberalism. And they believed in individualism. Just basically..."
"Okay? And so he breaks a lot of these laws. But what Sadat Zevi is really saying is that don't apply because we all..."
"So you can argue that today the Dolmay control Turkey."
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