The order Jiang describes as a learning-centered, orthodoxy-enforcing precursor to the Jesuits and one half of Dante's paired reform problem.
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Dominicans
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Order Jiang links to identifying Cathars and feeding the Inquisition.
Jiang characterizes the Dominicans as a pre-Jesuit order devoted to learning and education in service of enforcing Christian orthodoxy.
Jiang identifies Dante's governing question here as why reform movements rooted in selfless knowledge or selfless spirituality begin well and still fail.
Jiang says the paradox of the canto is that Thomas Aquinas, a Dominican, praises the Franciscans and criticizes his own order, while Bonaventure will later do the reverse for the Dominicans and Franciscans.
He says Francis founded the Franciscan order as a movement devoted to poverty, while Dominic founded the Dominican order as a movement devoted to learning and Catholic orthodoxy.
Jiang says Aquinas treats Dominican corruption as the result of excessive institutional power: a learned order spread through Europe as inquisitors and was ultimately corrupted by that power.
Jiang says the Dominicans were founded to address the Cathar threat facing the Catholic Church in southern France.
He says the Dominican solution was not primarily the sword but the pen: identify heretics through interrogation, isolate them, and re-educate them into orthodoxy.
The quoted canto presents Dominic as a torrent striking the thickets of heresy and also warns that his own order later lost its original track and became internally divided.
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"...Thomas Aquinas. Thomas Aquinas is part of an order called the Dominicans, okay?"
"The Dominicans are essentially the Jesuits, the pre -Jesuits. And these are people who are dedicated to learning and education. And they are doing..."
"...is it that these two movements, which started out great, the Dominicans with their selfless pursuit of knowledge and the Franciscans with their selfless..."
"...is weird because uh thomas aquinas is of the of the dominican order but he will explain the glories of the franciscan order now..."
"...who are devoted to poverty and then dominic who founded the dominican order who will promote themselves uh who will dedicate themselves"
"to learning as well as promoting um catholic orthodoxy throughout europe okay these are the ones who are responsible to squash all heresies okay..."
"...um St Thomas Aquinas the reason why he thinks that the Dominican order became corrupt is eventually they've had too much power right the..."
"Okay, so let's go into the history of the Dominicans. The Dominicans were founded for a very specific purpose. So, at this time in..."
"...example is going to possibly overfill us. So they create the Dominican order in order to deal with the Cathar threat, the Aborigines Crusade...."
"...could then re -educate them. And that's the idea behind the Dominican order. And as you can imagine, the Dominicans fought themselves. They were..."
"Verse 97. Then he, with both his learning and his zeal, and with his apostolic office, like a torrent hurtled from a mountain source,..."
"And soon we are to see, at harvest time, the poor grain gathered where the tares will be denied a place within the bin..."
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