He presents the Franciscans as a poverty movement founded by Francis of Assisi in continuity with Jesus and the poor, and he says both the Dominican and Franciscan reforms initially seemed to restore hope to a corrupt Church before later failing.
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Franciscans
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Jiang identifies Dante's governing question here as why reform movements rooted in selfless knowledge or selfless spirituality begin well and still fail.
Jiang says the paradox of the canto is that Thomas Aquinas, a Dominican, praises the Franciscans and criticizes his own order, while Bonaventure will later do the reverse for the Dominicans and Franciscans.
He says Francis founded the Franciscan order as a movement devoted to poverty, while Dominic founded the Dominican order as a movement devoted to learning and Catholic orthodoxy.
Jiang and the students agree that the Franciscan order became disloyal to poverty after Francis's death.
The practical loophole for abandoning poverty was to treat houses and goods as borrowed rather than owned, allowing the order to function like a property-holding institution while preserving the form of the vow.
Jiang says the Franciscans did not explicitly ask for money in exchange for heaven and that Francis himself would have rejected any such transaction.
The student explanation Jiang endorses is that rich admirers, unable to renounce their own material ties, gave property to the Franciscans because they were inspired by them.
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"...will meet Bonaventure, who is part of an order called the Franciscan Order, okay? The Franciscan Order was founded by Francis Assisi, who made..."
"...great, the Dominicans with their selfless pursuit of knowledge and the Franciscans with their selfless pursuit of spirituality, why did they fail? Okay? That's..."
"...course is thomas aquinas all right who will explain um the franciscan order okay so this is weird because uh thomas aquinas is of..."
"...church and these two princes are saint francis will found the franciscan order who are devoted to poverty and then dominic who founded the..."
"to learning as well as promoting um catholic orthodoxy throughout europe okay these are the ones who are responsible to squash all heresies okay..."
"okay so so okay so you guys understand what's happening right francis will die he'll go to heaven to to receive his just reward..."
"they're not disloyal they abandon poverty and and and by how if you if you are this"
"no because they're all celibate right this is francisian order so they're supposed to marry poverty and so what do they do and and..."
"...you know like the�를 of the life and people give the franciscan order a top uh a house in town to live in and..."
"them property so do they say something like give us um property and then you can perhaps ascend to"
"heaven or like the friends would never ever say this okay they would never say if you make me rich i'll get i'll make..."
"were really inspirational like rich people some people wanted to be franciscans but they could feel like they couldn't cut off their material ties..."
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