He defines the historical evolution of warfare as moving from killing soldiers, to destroying civilian production, to using civilian dissent against the state.
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Warfare
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Key Notes
He argues that the nation-state idea became so powerful that defeating it required destroying civilian populations, not merely killing soldiers.
He classifies the war in Ukraine as essentially a 19th-century war or World War I-style war focused on killing soldiers.
Jiang says Iran, unlike Ukraine, will be the first 21st-century war.
He says the best weapon in 21st-century war is no longer planes or aircraft carriers but the targeted country's own population.
Intermarried elites reach equilibrium above the states, turning warfare from innovation into population control and court politics into factional struggle over hierarchy.
Jiang rejects ritualized warfare and The Art of War as rules for a controlled game; actual conquest requires total commitment, promotion of talent, happy soldiers, attacks on civilian centers and supply lines, and refusal to respect elite taboos.
Bronze transforms warfare because it combines tin and copper into superior weapons, but tin scarcity forces civilizations to expand trade routes.
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"...no longer produce any weapons Okay, and that's the 20th century warfare the 21st century warfare. It's different because you have these huge populations..."
"...century um and so i want to explain to you how warfare has evolved these past few hundred years so the simplest way to..."
"of the 19th century how traditionally wars wars were fought for hundreds of hundreds of years within sort of centuries something happened which is..."
"then others will use nuclear will use new glories on you okay so now Now, in the 21st century, our goal is to use..."
"So in World War II, what they recognized is there's no point in killing soldiers on the battlefield because they'll just send in more..."
"So as you can see, because of the rise of the nation state, we had to kill more and more people in order to..."
"It made a lot of people more wealthy. Think of the tremendous wealth that China has generated in the past 30, 40 years because..."
"Okay? And that's what's happening in Ukraine. What I will show you is that Iran will be the first 21st century war. Okay? So..."
"weapon in this war are no longer my planes and my aircraft carriers my best weapon is the Iranian people themselves that's what a..."
"...creates the idea of equilibrium and at this point in history warfare becomes organized warfare okay so remember before warfare was about innovation but..."
"...now when you do that it's for population control okay so warfare becomes a mechanism of population control all right so even though these..."
"That's why you were meritocracy. You only promoted the best and the brightest. Once you reach an equilibrium, you don't have to do that,..."
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