Elite or near-elite aspirants with money or ambition but blocked access to status/power.
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lower nobility
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Key Notes
Major conflicts are between upper nobility and lower nobility, not rich and poor; aspirational middle and rich people want more while the poor are inert.
Jiang argues that in the Hindu hierarchy, kings are lower nobility under the Brahmins, so rulers become the group most likely to want revolutionary change.
Pericles' expansion of democracy is interpreted as a lower-nobility strategy: align with the people to defeat upper-nobility prestige and money, effectively making himself king of Athens.
Athenian empire intensifies eudaimonia because empire enriches everyone but makes the wealthy much wealthier, leaving lower nobility jealous and hungry for expeditions of their own.
His alternative explanation is internal class/status conflict: upper nobility in both cities prefers preserving the status quo to winning wars that might empower lower-nobility rivals.
Cleon is recast from demagogue to lower nobility pursuing eudaimonia through aggressive strategy against Sparta.
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"Okay. So, to remind you, okay, the conflict arises between upper nobility and lower nobility. So, upper nobility are just the optimists, people like,..."
"The poor don't do anything. Okay? The poor just, like, I'm poor, I'm useless, I'll just sit and die. Okay? That's what poor people..."
"Right? Remember the Proto -Indo -Iranians they have white skin. The IVC culture the people who call the Proto -Dravinians no sorry the Proto..."
"...who who most wants change or revolutionary change? Excuse me? The lower nobility and who's the lower lower nobility in this system? The kings...."
"...the balance of power in Athens. So, he basically represented the lower nobility versus the upper nobility. Right? Usually, the upper nobility has more..."
"...but it makes the wealthy even more so. And so, the lower nobility, okay, the lower nobility became very jealous. And so, the way..."
"And if they win, they can make a lot of money themselves. So, one place they chose to invade was Egypt, but that failed...."
"...the very basis of conflict in society is between the upper nobility and the upper nobility."
"Okay? Do you understand? The upper nobility is only interested in maintaining the status quo. They're very conservative. They don't like wars because you..."
"Athens is trying to maintain the status quo The war starts in 431 B.C. And a lot of people are saying, Pericles, hey, let's..."
"...Okay? Does that make sense? So after Pericles dies the low nobility become ascendant. Okay? And because of this war they propose an aggressive..."
"...food. It's called a grain dole. Okay? And so, now the nobility wants to go fight more wars. What they do is they bribe..."
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