Jiang says the key question is not whether betrayal advances God's plan, because the imagination itself is the divine plan and process matters more than historical results.
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Jiang presses a deliberately outcome-centered principle: if a person produces immense public good, motive alone seems insufficient to explain why God would still withhold redemption.
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"...is this advancing God's plan. That's not what matters, okay? The results don't matter. It's a process that matters. What matters is what effect..."
"I understand that makes sense. But I'm trying to logically understand what's going on. So I mean, she breaks her vow, then she goes..."
"...and fear. She's afraid that God will punish her. But the results are good. So who cares?"
"I understand this. I understand this different time. I'm saying like, um, in the grand scheme of things, if this person, Ricardo is helping..."
"...in hell it'd be the same thing but is like the results will be different because in purgatory because they're dependent because they're trying..."
"crook the two together must of necessity result in evil because so joined one need not feed the other free fear the other and..."
"...obsessed with it and might have some, you know, very tragic result. Okay, good. Yes."
"...on just material acquisition and as you point out that's a result of mass society okay once your society reaches a certain"
"to live a life of goodness and as a result god rewards them the most okay um love is action right to not just..."
"There's no result because there's no, no children. Uh,"
"...some reservation about genetics, from genetic point of view, homosexuality actually results in the, in the, in the distribution of the wealth from the..."
"He had complete faith in God, even without having the results he had expected."
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