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Perfect higher realities of which earthly things are imperfect copies or shadows.
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "...Eclectic Unconscious. Eclectic Unconscious. Plato will use the realm of the forms and ideals. Okay? Christians will say Heaven. Whatever. Okay? All right? But..."
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "...Eclectic Unconscious. Eclectic Unconscious. Plato will use the realm of the forms and ideals. Okay? Christians will say Heaven. Whatever. Okay? All right? But..."
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Jiang treats Hegel's Geist, Jung's collective unconscious, Plato's forms and ideals, and Christian heaven as different names for the same universe.
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Jiang presents Plato's universe as a hierarchy in which the Form of the Good is eternal, perfect, and immutable, with earthly things only copies or imitations.
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In Jiang's simplified Plato, poetry, art, and theater are bad because they are imitations of imitations, while mathematics is good because pure thought approaches the Form of the Good.
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Jiang argues that Plato's philosophy is unusable for Alexander or Philip because it makes conquest a waste of time: the conquered world is only a shadow, while true reality is the Form of the Good approached by mathematics and philosophy.
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In Jiang's account, the visible world is a lesser imitation or shadow of a higher world of perfect forms.
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The higher Platonic world is described as eternal, immutable, immaculate, and perfect, while the lower world is marked by death and pain.
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"...Eclectic Unconscious. Eclectic Unconscious. Plato will use the realm of the forms and ideals. Okay? Christians will say Heaven. Whatever. Okay? All right? But..."
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"...that for Plato, there is a god, and it's called the form of the good. And the form of the good is what is..."
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"Now. Plato emanates other perfections. What he calls the form of the ideal, okay? So these are concepts like justice and beauty and reason...."
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"...evil, what is bad, is if you move away from the form of the good, okay? Right? So poetry is evil. Mathematics is good...."
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"...you're imagining the circle because you're accessing the realm of the forms. You're approaching the form of the good, okay? So it's only pure...."
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"...thinkers. And he had his students copy it out in manuscript form. Okay? Does that make sense? Second is why are his works so..."
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"...all you're doing is conquering a shadow. What's real is the form of the good. Right? Alexander, study mathematics, man. Okay? Do more math...."
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"...is the platonic understanding of the world. There's something called the form of the good, okay? And the, obviously, the metaphor would be the..."
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"But this is all perfection. And from this higher world comes the lesser world, the reality we live in. So everything that we see..."
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