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Pausanias’ refusal to mutilate Mardonius shows Jiang’s early-Greek contrast between Greek virtue and barbarian violence.
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Pausanias’ refusal to mutilate Mardonius shows Jiang’s early-Greek contrast between Greek virtue and barbarian violence.
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diagnosis
The standard civilizational story has the categories reversed: Jiang claims the steppe peoples were open, curious, and innovative, while mature civilizations became closed, static, and unhappy.
definition
Jiang distinguishes barbarian migration from invasion: migrants seek economic opportunity and are willing to conform to the host society's worldview rather than impose their own.
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"Agenitai nor those who nor those to whom such things should be pleasing it is sufficient for me to please the Spartans by doing..."
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"...to the gods we're loyal to ourselves we are not the barbarians we are not the Persians we are the Spartans okay so you..."
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"...steps are the grasslands, and people often refer to them as barbarians, okay? So in China, we refer to these people as like Yamanian,..."
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"...understanding of the difference between civilization and prosperity. Civilization and the barbarians, okay? The problem is that this creates a misunderstanding. And we can't..."
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"Why is it that they keep on losing out the steps people? And the answer is because your traditional understanding is completely wrong, okay?..."
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"...eventually, the Jews cease to be the major problem and these barbarians coming in from the steppes and from the north are the major..."
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"An invasion. Often, historians will use the word barbarian invasion. They're not invaders. They're migrants. It's a migration, guys. What's the difference? Well, if..."
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"...brothers and relatives now fight in a proper way against the barbarians. Let those who have been serving as mercenaries for small pay now..."
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"...a system that the Romans will use to take over the barbarians, okay? So next class, you'll learn about the barbarian invasions, basically the..."
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"...because of the system, they were now able to assimilate these barbarians into the culture and maintain a social hierarchy, okay? And so in..."
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"...poor backward and isolated people called the Qing and these were Barbarians okay so how was it possible for the Qing who are these..."
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"...They lose. This is unimaginable. How is it possible that some barbarians, the Greeks, are able to defeat a vast empire? The world's largest..."
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's Hellenistic World lecture: empire stabilizes itself into stagnation, borderlands beat it with energy and openness, Greece wins as a borderland, then becomes the empire whose universities, cities, and translations...
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang’s lecture on why the so-called barbarians repeatedly defeat civilization: empires turn innovation into bureaucracy, while the steppe turns geography, animals, inheritance, oath, myth, and violence into mobile social power.
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The Holy Roman Empire was not holy, not Roman, and not much of an empire.
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