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A Purgatory image Jiang links to inherited original sin and to whether descendants should be condemned by ancestral action.
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tree of knowledge
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Glossary
Interpreted as the human capacity to learn from mistakes and distinguish what helps from what hurts.
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Glossary
The Eden tree Jiang says gives the mind of God or knowledge of good and evil.
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diagnosis
He also ties the plant and tree imagery in Purgatory to the tree of knowledge and to the question of whether Adam and Eve's act should condemn descendants.
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A student then asks whether Eden complicates the whole framework, since Adam and Eve may not have understood good and evil before the tree and thus may not have possessed full free will in the first place.
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A student argues that the tree’s presence in Eden already proves human freedom existed from the beginning, because God left the forbidden option available instead of removing it.
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Jiang says Dante can be read the same way: if God had not wanted humans to exercise free will, he would not have placed the tree there or forbidden it in the first place.
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definition
The two trees are defined as the tree of knowledge, which gives the mind of God, and the tree of life, which gives life as long as God.
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Humans are exceptional because they can make mistakes and learn from them after eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
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"...family and also plant of course also refers to the tree of knowledge and so the idea is we should be condemned to original..."
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"...seems like eve ate the apple from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and prior to that adam and eve didn't..."
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"the tree existed in the garden in the first place already shows that god has given free will from the beginning so he has..."
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"it's there yeah so so i mean the we'll get to the garden okay but um there are like so many ways you can..."
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"...life also in the midst of the garden and the tree of knowledge of good and evil so this is Garden Paradise called Eden..."
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"...live forever. This is why. There are two trees, the tree of knowledge, which allows you to have the mind of God, and the..."
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"...mistakes and to learn from them because we ate from the knowledge of from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Okay? Do..."
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"...do, and it's like, don't eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. And that's it, guys. That's all you have to do. Don't..."
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"...Eve ate from the tree of the fruit, sorry, the tree of knowledge. Okay? They ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge. That's..."
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"...convince Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of, of knowledge, okay? And this is his argument to, to her. Why then was..."
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"...Eden because we disobeyed God and we ate from the tree of knowledge, okay? So Jesus died for our sins, and so Jesus redeemed..."
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"...try to kill God by eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge, okay? And so now God's angry at us, and we can't..."
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