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The Romulus and Remus story makes Rome a city founded on fratricidal violence.
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Romulus
The seminar begins with line-by-line questions and expands into a larger claim: Dante matters because poetry trains imagination, vows turn hope into action, and faith, hope, and love stop meaning obedience and start meaning...
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The seminar begins with line-by-line questions and expands into a larger claim: Dante matters because poetry trains imagination, vows turn hope into action, and faith, hope, and love stop meaning obedience and start meaning...
Key Notes
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Jiang links Mongol and Roman founding myths to the same violent culture because Genghis Khan kills a best friend and Romulus kills a twin brother.
diagnosis
The Romulus and Remus legend is read as evidence that Romans saw violence, even killing one's brother, as lying at the core of human existence when ordained by the gods.
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"next is Rome is founded by twins, Romulus and Remus, and they will fight for the kingship of Rome. Okay? So can you read..."
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"...vultures appeared to him. The augury had just been announced to Romulus when double the number appeared to him. Each was saluted as king..."
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"So Romulus and Remus are twins. Okay? They love each other. And, um, Rome was founded on violence. Okay? That's the very nature of..."
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"Okay? He had to kill his own brother, the person he loved, in order to create the world. And the gods thanked him for..."
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"And what's in the Roman mythology? Romulus kills his twin brother to found Rome. Okay? All right? So that shows you that the Mongols..."
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"...So, Rome was supposed to be founded in 753 BCE by Romulus. Okay? And there, there are legends surrounding Romulus. And there are lots..."
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"...Okay? The problem is this. They're twins. There's two of them. Romulus and Remus. So, and only one can be king. So, they're, so..."
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"...gods. Okay? So, that's the first legend. Second legend is this. Romulus has to build Rome and he becomes a very open person. He..."
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"...to live. The story of the founding of Rome is that Romulus and Remus were twins. And they grew up together. And they rose..."
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"...What he's saying is that that refers to the myth of Romulus and Remus. Right? Because we all know... Because in this context... Okay?"
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"...well educated to read Dante. So everyone knows the mythology of Romulus and Remus. And then what Dante does in this one line is......"
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"...to relate the two things. You're absolutely right. Pallas and Athena, Romulus and Remus... I didn't see the connection. And what Dante is doing..."
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The seminar begins with line-by-line questions and expands into a larger claim: Dante matters because poetry trains imagination, vows turn hope into action, and faith, hope, and love stop meaning obedience and start meaning...
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's Roman lecture: Rome begins as a poor borderland war machine, invents a liberty of obedience, uses Greek historians and Augustan poets to launder violence, and reaches its deepest secret...
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang’s lecture on why the so-called barbarians repeatedly defeat civilization: empires turn innovation into bureaucracy, while the steppe turns geography, animals, inheritance, oath, myth, and violence into mobile social power.
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's lecture on civilization as temple economy, writing as hierarchy machine, Enuma Elish as sky-god propaganda, Gilgamesh as bureaucratic literature, and grain as the crop kings prefer because free pastoralists...
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Genghis Khan is not explained by saying the Mongols were uniquely evil.
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Byzantium survives for a thousand years because it solves Rome's political problem.
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Hannibal can destroy an army, but he cannot make Rome accept defeat.
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