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A major tragic theme and, in Jiang's model, the motivation that drives humans to violent action.
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revenge
A major tragic theme and, in Jiang's model, the motivation that drives humans to violent action.
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Jiang contrasts Carthage's own Dido myth, where suicide preserves liberty and inspires a proud people, with Virgil's Dido, whose love poisons her soul and enslaves her people to revenge.
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Lucretia’s rape becomes the hinge from monarchy to republic because Roman honor converts injury into revenge rather than consolation.
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The Roman republic begins with Lucius Brutus turning private violation into revenge against the king and then enforcing law against his own sons.
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Versailles is presented as unfairly assigning total guilt to Germany, while the army accepted surrender as a temporary rebuilding strategy for revenge.
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Achilles' revenge victory over Hector does not fulfill him; it exposes a depression rooted in guilt over Patroclus' death.
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Jiang treats Agamemnon's sacrifice of Iphigenia as a morally unnecessary choice that launches the cycle of revenge rather than as a tragic necessity.
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Jiang frames Orestes as trapped between two moral obligations: avenging his father and violating the cosmic order by killing his mother.
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In Jiang's retelling, Dionysus seeks revenge on Thebes because his mother was insulted and the city refused to worship him.
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"So she and some refugees sought refuge in Northern Africa. So they found the city of Carthage. And they worked really hard to build..."
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"Okay, so this couldn't possibly happen, right? So, these women are abducted, the fathers try to rescue them, and then the women say, hey,..."
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"They found Lucretia sitting in her room, prostrate with grief. As they entered, she burst into tears, and to her husband's inquiry whether all..."
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"It is for you, she said, to see that he gets in deserts. Although I acquit myself to the sin, I do not free..."
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"...is like, no, I don't want to be consoled. I want revenge. We're Romans, man! We fight to the bitter end. If you hit..."
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"And a couple of the conspirators include two of Lucius Brutus' sons, okay? His two sons. And the conspiracy is found out, and all..."
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"He's very important. He's now head of the German military, as well as head of the German nation. And he forced the German government..."
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"...then we'll start to rebuild and unify the nation and take revenge against everyone. And that was the thinking of the military. Very simple..."
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"And then what happens? He gets killed. Achilles hears about the death of Patroclus. And Achilles is so angry at the death of his..."
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"But it turns out he falls into a deep depression. He cannot sleep. He cannot eat. All he does is think about Patroclus. But..."
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"...are still amazed and inspired by Great, great question. OK, so revenge. OK, you're right in that all these plays have the idea of..."
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"This is important because, remember, Helen runs away to Troy, and Menelaus tells his brother, Agamemnon, gets upset, and they agree to organize this..."
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