Thucydides passage Jiang uses to show Athenian empire speaking openly in coercive terms.
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Melian Dialogue
Thucydides passage Jiang uses to show Athenian empire speaking openly in coercive terms.
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Jiang introduces the Melian Dialogue as evidence that Athens coerced allies and islands that wanted out of its war.
Jiang reads the Melian Dialogue as Athens abandoning liberty rhetoric for pure imperial might: the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
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"Athenian population including Pericles and his two sons all right so uh can you can you read this so what's happening is that you..."
"Athenians for ourselves we shall not trouble you with spacious specious specious pretenses either of how we have a right to our empire because..."
"Lacedonians although they are colonists or that you have done us no wrong will aim at what is feasible holding in view that holding..."
"so you know the Persians when they went to the Athenians basically said we are a vast empire you can't defeat us and let's..."
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