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Joab killing Abner without punishment is, for Jiang, evidence that David likely ordered or permitted the killing.
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Joab killing Abner without punishment is, for Jiang, evidence that David likely ordered or permitted the killing.
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Jiang says the Bible's Abner story contains real elements, such as David feasting with Abner and Joab killing Abner, but its explanation that Joab acted from private anger cannot be true.
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Because Joab controlled the army, Jiang argues David would have had to kill him if Joab truly acted independently against an honored guest; therefore Joab must have killed Abner on David's order.
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"this okay so job goes and kills abner okay now so if you read the story did nothing wrong okay but if you think..."
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"well okay so this guy needs to be eliminated because he's dangerous okay and it makes sense because remember david betrayed saul so he's..."
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"So what's really important to know is that even though Job disobeyed David and killed Abner, Job was never punished, okay? Okay, which tells..."
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"...and then as Abner leaves he runs into David's general named Joab Joab and Joab and Abner go a long way Joab's brother and..."
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"...suspicious of Abner but in general you should be suspicious of Joab right because Joab has access to your army Abner is your enemy..."
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"had to kill Abner because he was ordered to by David right now why would David want Abner to be killed because in his..."
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"...gives Uriah a letter and he gives Uriah to his general Joab okay"
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"and the letter instructs Joab to kill Uriah he Joab will send Uriah with his soldiers out in the battlefield and then at the..."
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A source-grounded reading of Literary Genesis: Israel begins as a political coalition, David needs legitimacy, and the Bible becomes the technology that turns propaganda into living memory.
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The Bible begins, in this lecture's argument, as political spin for David: a library of collective imagination that turns usurpation, murder, and fear of rivals into legitimacy, identity, and eventually literature.
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