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A student makes the implied reference explicit by asking whether the strange plural 'gods' points back to Dante's earlier invocations of Apollo and the Muses.
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Greek gods
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Jiang says the plural 'gods' can only point toward the Greek pantheon because Christianity is monotheistic, and he uses that friction to argue that Divine Comedy contains a subversive layer beneath its official Catholic chronology.
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Jiang says Greek spirits take possession of animals or people rather than appearing as ordinary material forms, and only through such possession can they perceive time and space.
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Yahweh differs from Greek-style vengeful gods because he does not kill Adam and Eve but gives them clothing, implying forgiveness and possible self-reflection.
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Yahweh's difference from Greek gods is forgiveness, fallibility, reflection, debate, and openness rather than pure vengeance.
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"does the gods here refer to like the greek gods i mean i think yesterday we talked about how at the beginning of the..."
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"even though she was like christian yeah well i mean like that that can only be that can only be the reference right because..."
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"But the Greek world, in the Greek world, what happened was these spirits took possession. Do you understand? They didn't come to us as..."
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"...eve would have died because the gods in the iliad the greek gods most gods are vengeful they're wrathful right but not this god"
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"okay yahweh is different okay look what happens next is the man named his wife eve because she was the mother of all living..."
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"...openness. Okay? So our God is different from other gods. The Greek gods is pure vengeance. Our God is one of forgiveness. Okay? He's..."
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"...Second Temple into a site to worship. They wanted to worship Greek gods. And so the Fanatical Jews rebelled against that."
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"...Paul chooses a mystery school that worships Dionysus. Dionysus is the Greek god of creativity, wine. And the story of Dionysus is he is..."
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"...called the festival of Dionysus, okay? Dionysus was the god, the Greek god of the theater, of art, of music, of society. And they..."
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