Rome's image of perfected order that lasts forever, where obedience produces an end of history.
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eternity
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He describes the punishment as eternal repetition: the sinner is torn apart, re-forms in the pitch, and immediately resumes the same delusion of getting away next time.
The quoted passage presents Dante describing Brunetto as the paternal teacher who taught him how a person makes himself eternal.
Jiang defines God here as eternal and infinite, the source that encompasses everything rather than one being among others.
Jiang says humans represent infinity while God represents eternity, allowing human becoming to take place inside the divine whole.
Jiang says the deeper message is that humans only think they are bodies, when in truth they are aspects of God, and that this makes them eternal.
Jiang argues that if the soul is truly eternal, then death is not the real problem because humans cannot finally die and can only be reborn.
Jiang recasts the issue by asking what the problem is with a perfect world that becomes eternal.
A student answers that eternity means nothing ever changes.
Timestamped Evidence
"the second one right so it's kind of silly where look if you just stay where you are if you just stay in the..."
"yes wait so when they're torn to pieces they their bodies get back together yeah so they're torn to"
"...something happens they do it again this happens like for all eternity okay so it's it's it's almost like this compulsion where they think..."
"If my desire were answered totally, I said to Supernato, you'd still be among, not banished from humanity. Within my memory is fixed and..."
"...process to happen do you understand humans represent infinity god represents eternity but god wouldn't help us both humans as well okay all right..."
"Sorry, do you want to say something? Okay, so what this is saying is like, remember that you think you're a body, you think..."
"...What's the problem with that? It becomes eternal, right? What is eternity?"
"Eternity is death. You understand that? Eternity is death. So your only solution to life is infinity. Does that make sense? God is eternal...."
"Yeah. So the trick, the key is to understand what a body is impossible for you to understand time and space. Okay? And this..."
"Because we are stuck in time and space. But they are beyond time and space. Okay? Does that make sense? Okay."
"Right? If you're a good person, you have a certain look to your face. Okay? If you're clever, you have a certain look. Okay?..."
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