Jiang says Dante would look at the present and judge it worse than his own age because even a bad older world could still produce something like the Divine Comedy.
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Civilizational decline
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Jiang ends by joking that the accumulated evidence means society is totally screwed.
Jiang's recurring decline model says prosperous, peaceful, stable civilizations tend toward overpopulation, elite overproduction, and financialization or debt slavery; these factors work together to end civilizations.
Jiang says the American strategic view is that Europe suppresses entrepreneurship, runs a nanny-state welfare model, weakens free speech, and relies on American power instead of carrying its own civilizational burden.
Jiang says the West is not in a temporary slump but in a deathbed phase of civilizational decline, and he frames that judgment through a Spenglerian checklist rather than through a reversible policy cycle.
Another item in Jiang's checklist is demographic collapse: he says people no longer want children because they do not believe in a future for those children.
Jiang adds general decadence to his decline checklist and uses the spread of OnlyFans among young white American women as a sign that the civilization is commercializing its own bodies rather than reproducing itself.
Jiang says the Greek lesson is that hubris is the greatest evil because it drives human beings and empires into insanity.
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"Right, exactly. Okay, so this is really interesting because if Dante were to come today, look at our world, he'd be like, this is..."
"a narrow definition of success yes uh yes degradation in the aesthetic standards okay great so i'm convinced we are totally screwed okay all..."
"You know, international security strategy. The Americans are very clear about the issues in Europe. They believe that the Europeans wouldn't encourage entrepreneurship. The..."
"Yeah absolutely. You're absolutely right. Arthur Spengler. He had a checklist for. How do you know a society is in decline. When he means..."
"Where you know. You have like OnlyFans. Where maybe 10 or 20%. Of young white American women. Are on OnlyFans. And I mean that's..."
"And unfortunately. This is what the Greeks taught us. That hubris is the greatest evil in the world. It leads us into insanity. And..."
"Same process with the Mayans where over time, because of their breakthroughs in agriculture, they reach a peak in about the year 780, 80..."
"Okay? That's a causation. I... But some other scholars argue it is correlation, and the reason why is that Mayans are really famous for..."
"...that this anxiety, which leads to capitalism, will ultimately lead to civilizational decline, okay? That's his main argument, okay? So again, he's not writing..."
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