Jiang's response here is methodological: rather than simply naming pride the root, he tests the claim by asking whether it can causally generate sloth and the other sins.
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Causality
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Jiang distinguishes fact from truth by arguing that truth would require a total account of causes and contexts that finite journalism cannot provide but God can.
Jiang rejects those as downstream effects and asks for the concrete social change that would have produced materialism and hatred in the first place.
A student argues that predetermination requires an ordered relation between what comes first and what comes next, not mere undifferentiated determination.
Luck cannot explain Octavian's rise because saying he became emperor by being lucky is circular rather than causal.
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"Pride. Huh. Okay. Can you, do you have an answer?"
"Explain to me why pride leads to laziness, Slav."
"Yes, so I'm a member of the Cormac McCarthy Society and he has this line beauty and truth are one. Yes, that's right. Exactly...."
"Yeah, but where did that come from? Where did this materialism come from?"
"No, what's causing this materialism? What's causing this hatred? Come on. I mean, like you just talk to your grandparents, right? And like your..."
"the the girl was mentioning right because because if there's no ordinal relationship between those things predetermination is just determination there's no what's what..."
"In this battle what happens is basically Mark Anthony and Cleopatra, they run away from the battle, and then they return to Alexandria and..."
"You become emperor by being lucky, okay? So that's, that doesn't suffice. Second is, you can say he was brilliant. Julius Caesar was brilliant,..."
"...That you know one thing led to another. I mean. The causality. I would use World War One as an example. This leads to..."
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