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6 timestamped hits 1 source reading 2 extracted notes Aliases: braveries

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Bravery

Jiang says the Egyptian virtue that wins is cleverness, deception, and palace intrigue, while Mesopotamia values bravery, strength, pure power, and pure bravery.

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Civilizational value comparison stated on 2024-11-28.

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Jiang says the Egyptian virtue that wins is cleverness, deception, and palace intrigue, while Mesopotamia values bravery, strength, pure power, and pure bravery.

Plot summary and interpretation stated on 2024-11-28.

evidence

Gilgamesh and Enkidu become friends and triumph over divine challenges through friendship and bravery, including the Bull of Heaven sent after Gilgamesh rejects Ishtar.

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Gilgamesh Against the Pyramid

2024-11-28, day precision · Civilization #19: Gilgamesh and Mesopotamia's Quest for Immortality

Transcript

"We humans don't need to participate in the order of things. But in the Enemilish we find out that gods are extremely violent. And..."

Gilgamesh Against the Pyramid

2024-11-28, day precision · Civilization #19: Gilgamesh and Mesopotamia's Quest for Immortality

Transcript

"But here the value that is most prominent in Mesopotamia is bravery or strength. Okay. Not cleverness. There's no trickery going on. It's just..."

Gilgamesh Against the Pyramid

2024-11-28, day precision · Civilization #19: Gilgamesh and Mesopotamia's Quest for Immortality

Transcript

"...at first they're afraid, but through their friendship and through their bravery they're able to triumph in the end. There's a god named Ishtar..."

Gilgamesh Against the Pyramid

2024-11-28, day precision · Civilization #19: Gilgamesh and Mesopotamia's Quest for Immortality

Transcript

"But Gilgamesh rebuffs Ishtar because Gilgamesh basically knows that Ishtar wants to turn him into her sex slave. He doesn't want that. He wants..."

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Gilgamesh Against the Pyramid

2024-11-28, day precision · claims

Reading

Mesopotamia turns geography into mythology: where Egypt imagines divine generosity and pyramidal immortality, the land between two uncooperative rivers learns struggle, creative destruction, and the more fragile immortality of being remembered by the people...

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