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The Sabine women myth makes hospitality violation, abduction, and rape into Roman state formation.
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Sabine women
The Sabine women myth makes hospitality violation, abduction, and rape into Roman state formation.
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Livy’s Sabine account reframes abduction as eventual reconciliation and love, which Jiang treats as disgusting blame-shifting propaganda.
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Jiang interprets the Sabine women story as a metaphor for war: kill the enemy, take the wife, then create a mythology that says she thanks you.
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"So Romulus and Remus are twins. Okay? They love each other. And, um, Rome was founded on violence. Okay? That's the very nature of..."
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"And then, um, they will kidnap a woman and kill her. They're going to rape them. Okay? That's the plan. Okay?"
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"They were invited to accept hospitality at the different houses. And after examining the situation of the city, its walls and the large number..."
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"The abducted maidens were quite as despondent and indignant. Romulus, however, went around in person and pointed out to them that it was all..."
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"Okay. So the Romans are pretty disgusting. Okay. They raped a woman and said, it's your fault or it's your parents' fault. And I..."
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"Then it was that the Sabine women whose wrongs had led to the war, throwing off all womanish fears in their distress, went boldly..."
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"The armies and their leaders were alike moved by this appeal. There was a sudden hush and silence. Then the generals advanced to arrange..."
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"So, I think I did not fully understand the part which the romance rape of those women and women blame the sins on themselves...."
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"Okay. So, I think that's a good question. Okay. I think that's a good question. Okay. So, the rape of the seven women didn't..."
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"The wife won't thank you. The wife won't hate you. But, do you care? You don't care. Okay? The winners write the history. Do..."
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's Roman lecture: Rome begins as a poor borderland war machine, invents a liberty of obedience, uses Greek historians and Augustan poets to launder violence, and reaches its deepest secret...
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