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Athenian fun is conversation, philosophy, and watered wine; Roman fun is vomiting, orgy, and mythic reenactment amid public starvation.
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Athenian fun is conversation, philosophy, and watered wine; Roman fun is vomiting, orgy, and mythic reenactment amid public starvation.
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"This is a very idea of civilization. And what do the Romans do? They do this, okay? Gladiators. They watch lions eat people. They..."
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"This is a famous painting of Alcibiades coming in and having a discussion with everyone. So in Athenian culture, what's important is to be..."
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"So they take these myths. So the death of Lucretia, Musius burning his hand, the rape of the Sabine woman, and they use it..."
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's Roman lecture: Rome begins as a poor borderland war machine, invents a liberty of obedience, uses Greek historians and Augustan poets to launder violence, and reaches its deepest secret...
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