Church-mediated payments or arrangements that Jiang treats as a way to reduce time in Purgatory.
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indulgences
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Key Notes
A Church practice Jiang describes as letting wealthy sinners pay for reduced penance in purgatory.
Papal letters or tickets sold to reduce penalties in purgatory; Jiang treats them as bribing God.
Jiang says the church around 1300 effectively determines who gets into Purgatory and can shorten time there through indulgences, making it a purchasable back door into Heaven.
Jiang says that before Dante Purgatory was for special cases and mostly for people rich enough to pay indulgences, so it did not apply to most people.
Jiang interprets Dante's critique of corruption as including the Catholic Church's sale of indulgences, where wealth can purchase reduced penance in purgatory.
He says the Church used indulgence practices to finance projects such as St. Peter's Basilica.
The exchange around the coin image keeps indulgences in view as a possible background for why monetary language around faith is spiritually dangerous.
Jiang partly accepts that the passage is unforgettable because of its dissonance, but he rejects the idea that it merely warns about corruption because indulgences and church abuse were already publicly blatant.
The quoted passage says false preaching and indulgence-selling exploit worldly credulity and replace gospel truth with lies and comic performance.
Church power produces corruption through indulgences, simony, relic sales, noble control, tax exemptions, and control of land, setting kings against the Church.
Timestamped Evidence
"Okay, explain to me who gets into hell? Who gets into Purgatory? Who gets into Purgatory, according to the Catholic Church, at this time..."
"I think you can basically buy your way into Purgatory through money or good deeds. Yes, you understand."
"...to Purgatory, okay? Right, that's number one. Number two is, for indulgences, the Church can also determine how long you stay in Purgatory. Do..."
"...Purgatory, right? You have to be rich. You have to provide indulgences in order to get your relative into Purgatory."
"...Throughout the Divine Comedy, he will refer to the idea of indulgences. Okay? The idea of indulgences is, okay, let's just say you're a..."
"Okay, alright. So, uh, um, this is a very interesting question, like, okay, if the um, Catholic Church is against money, why is Dante..."
"Indulgences are, like, against everything that Jesus taught. So that's why, like, faith is a coin, because you pay your way into, like, believing..."
"I think he did this maybe just to give a dramatic effect to his poem. So that this could be remembered as the shocking..."
"You're right. This is kind of dissonance, right? We will forever remember this. Okay? But at the same time, again, what Don has been..."
"...of the Church is so blatant. Everyone knows this, right? The indulgences are blatant. Yes?"
"indians too saw that eclipse such fables shouted through the year from pulpits some here some there outnumber even all the lapos and the..."
"the world's credulity increases so that people throng to every indulgence backed by no authority and no authority and this allows the antonines to..."
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