This War Will Not End Quicky | Prof. Jiang Explains

Have you seen the YouTube channel Predictive History? So it has recently exploded and has nearly 1 million subscribers. A high school history professor named Professor Jiang teaches courses that would never be taught here in the United States. Courses about geopolitics, conspiracy theories, and secret societies. His courses include How Power Works, How Societies Collapse, How Evil Triumphs, Dawn of the Jews. No topic or theory is untouched, and his candid way of saying the things people are typically afraid to say has created quite the following. And the channel went viral after one lecturer correctly anticipated the Iran -Israel 12 -day war. He's now predicting something even more ominous. He predicts in another viral video that Israel will become the next great empire controlling the entire world. That all the events happening now are a lead -in to their ultimate rise. And he does all of this from Beijing. Professor Jiang is a Canadian -Chinese professor who studied here in the United States at Yale with a degree in English literature.

And he now teaches a high school course. Unbelievably, this is a high school course. And he films it, puts it on YouTube, uses predictive history and game theory to correctly predict the future. And it's been, so far, quite astonishing. I'm really excited to have this conversation with him. Professor Jiang, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here.

Thanks so much for having me, Kim.

I am really excited for this conversation. I've been following your work for a while. I've been trying to get you on the show for a while. I don't know if you know that, but I've been messaging you on YouTube and all over the place ever since I saw much of your stuff going out there. But I think you're in hot demand. A lot of people want to talk to you. And so I really appreciate the time that you're taking to talk to us today. I want to start off with... So your channel, Predictive History, which is just blown up. I mean, now you have almost a million subscribers, I think, on your channel. You do such amazing deep dive work. And you're using game theory and predictive history to, I guess, predict the future, right? Using predictive history to predict the future. So can you explain to everybody who's watching, who's maybe not familiar with game theory, for example, and predictive history, tell us what those are.

Right. So the idea of predictive history is that there are certain patterns in human behavior that can be analyzed. And so if you do a deep analysis of past history, you should be able to develop certain frameworks and models for the understanding of human development. And then you can test and refine these models by making predictions about the future. And so that's what I do. Based on my understanding of history, I make certain assumptions. I make certain assumptions about how things develop. And depending on my accuracy, then I can go back and refine these models and frameworks. And one tool that I use for analysis is game theory. The idea of game theory is that individuals perceive the world as a game in which they are trying to defeat other players, their rules, their incentives. By understanding the worldview of these players, you can understand their psychology and how they behave. So in our world, obviously, Trump and Putin are very important players.

And so by understanding their psychology, you can better understand how they will behave in the future. And that's the very basis of what I do.

So you would have to know a lot of history in order to do predictive history toward the future, I would imagine.

Well, you would also need a complete view of history. So rather than me specializing in a particular area of history, for example, the Roman period or the British Empire. I try to have a macro picture of the entirety of human history, stretching from the Ice Age up to the Pax Americana, which is the age that we live in. And so on my YouTube channel, I go over every major period of human history and try to show patterns that emerge from these particular periods. And so I would say in our age, I see tremendous analogies between the Peloponnesian War and today's America. America really much is a falling empire, and the way that it behaves is very similar to how the Athenian Empire behaved when it collapsed.

Yeah, I think it does seem, many of us can see that right now, it's a failing empire or just towards the end of it. But this seems to be an empire that's been shorter lived than historical times. Why do you think that is?

Well, I mean, the American Empire is unique in that it spans the entire globe, right? Right. The Athenian Empire had control over the Aegean, but that was it. And the Aegean is a very small part of the world. America insists on maintaining hegemony throughout the entire world, in Africa, in South America, in Europe, in Asia, and that's not sustainable. And America had a tremendous advantage because of its technological edge, because of its aerial supremacy, because of the U.S. dollar. But ultimately, this is not sustainable.

Yeah. This class that you're teaching on YouTube. This is a, this is an actual class. I mean, you're, you're, look, we don't ever see any students. Sometimes we hear questions from students. So you are teaching an actual course and you're filming it.

Right. So I'm, I'm, I'm actually a high school teacher and I teach classes.

Is this a high school class?

This is a high school class in Beijing. Yes. So these are Chinese students.

I'm sorry. I'm just blown away by this. These are Chinese students in Beijing at a high school. Right. And this is high school level.

So next time you're in Beijing, please come to my class. You'll meet the students. You'll sit in my class. So what I do is I go to class, I set up the camera, I press record, I teach for an hour. Then I turn off the camera and then I upload the video to YouTube. So what you're actually seeing is me teaching my class. And in the future, what I'm hoping to do is live stream my class so that students can actually, so viewers can actually participate. In the class as I'm teaching it.

This is a normal high school in Beijing.

This is not a public school. It's a private school. He's in public school. Um, students prepare for the college entrance examination or Chinese university. These are students who are intent on going abroad to study in America, primarily the bar's colleges, um, such as Carlton. Uh, and so, uh, our primary language of instruction is English and they need to have, um, an understanding of Western history and Western philosophy in order to do well in America. And that's why I teach what I, what I teach.

I mean, you're teaching something that, uh, I, I, I never, I never heard this or learn this here in the United States. I mean, this is so you're giving them such a completely different perspective. I mean, it's amazing. It's and that's why I'm shocked by this for what I'm shocked because the level of material is, I think. Um, I mean, I don't even know if college courses here in America teach. Yeah. This kind of thing, you know, we're to this level, you know, so the, and these are just high school students and they're absorbing all of this incredible information from you where you're really able to lay it out. And, you know, I notice in your videos, you'll say often, this is conspiracy theory, you know, just so you know, this is a, this is conspiracy theory, but here's the theory. And I mean, you're saying things that are so, uh, raw and I mean, shocking for, I mean, honestly, Western audiences.

And I don't know if that's just the way. Like, you can talk about things more openly in China. That's not what we're taught here. So what gives, how are you able to talk about things like conspiracies about Jews, for example, on your channel? Right. It will in your class.

So, um, I grew up in Canada and I went to Yale college for university. I, I, um, I was an English major at Yale. And so I had a very traditional elite education and, um, eventually I discovered that in life, this elite education. Has failed me because you look at 2016, uh, Trump's victory over Hillary Clinton, my elite education could not prepare me for that. And you look at COVID, then you look at the war in Ukraine. Um, and so I, I felt as though that my elite education and I received the best education possible. Um, there were so many blind spots to this sort of education and out of just personal curiosity, because I wanted to understand how the world really works. I began to. Um, like many other people during this time, you know, during COVID, I began to really try to get a better grasp of how the world works. And, you

know, back then I was listening to a lot of your, um, you know, um, conversations and insights. Um, and, and then I started to recognize that maybe this conspiracy theory is half a point. So let's just, you know, for the better, just give them the benefit of the doubt and just see what happens if you apply their theories to how the world actually works. What you discovered is that actually, um, their worldview offers a much more, um, coherent understanding of the world than the elite education. The elite education I received at Yale was very, um, it didn't really connect the dots for me. And so I really wanted, wanted to connect the dots. And so it's really these past two, three years in which I've really engaged with, um, with trying to figure out how, what happened in nine 11 with the moon landing. With JFK, um, with Colbert, with all these things. And then I, I use this framework to try to understand human history.

And then I recognize that, um, if you know, with an open mind, I can better connect the dots. And, and so in my class, what I try to teach students is not facts, but I try to teach students is a certain attitude. Um, a certain framework for understanding the world, which is to question things and try to connect that, connect the dots, even though. Can I? A certain thoughts may lead you to uncomfortable truths. Yeah.

And you're allowed to do this and you don't get in trouble.

Right. So I operate in a, in a very gray area in China. So public schools are monitored very heavily in China. There are certain textbooks that you must teach from there's the test that you must take. And so China has extreme conformity in its education system. private natural schools are a gray area because these students are going abroad and this is a minority of students now china's government has not figured out how to best teach um in these schools so as long as you don't cross certain red lines you're allowed to teach whatever you want so and the other thing is that what i teach in china is like off the wall it's so wacky that most people sort of find a kind of dissonance and they sort of tune off so i operate in this very murky gray area and it's really weird because as you point out i would not be allowed to

teach this anywhere else in the world i mean honestly yeah yeah it's incredible and you're doing it in china of all places and i could only do this in china where again this gray area exists public and then you have this very small percentage which is private and all this private only a small a small percentage is actually progressive um or experimental and

that's the school that i'm at so then my understanding from what i know about the chinese education system but of course correct me if i'm wrong but then these are international

students these are not chinese nationals no no these are chinese students who are planning to

study abroad oh really because i thought that with with that kids couldn't enroll in private school in china unless they were expats kids basically like they could maybe be born in china and chinese but i suppose they would have to be their parents would have to be international right these are their different

classifications so you're talking about the international expat track right schools that cater specifically to diplomats the sort of diplomats and you need a foreign passport to enter these schools um and then you have the public schools and then in between are these gray areas uh schools that are experimental and okay international in which you accept uh chinese uh passport holders and this and this is a recent

phenomenon for the past 10 years okay so the chinese government is kind of experimenting with these experimental schools saying we'll let some happen and see what happens that's right wow only in china do you think you're able to say the things you say and and speak so bluntly i mean it's so refreshing watching your stuff because you're you're so uh well you're academic you're a professor you're there teaching a course you're a professor you're a professor you're a professor you're doing it very academically very logically you're sticking to facts and real things and and even when you're talking about the conspiracy theories you're still basing it on you know these are the facts of what the conspiracies are these are the facts of the groups and this is you know what we know about them um i mean you're able to you know you're so academic but you're saying things that are just the rest

of us cannot get away with even on our i feel like on our youtube channels we can't actually i mean you're doing it on youtube and you're able to do it but you're able to just say things so bluntly that everybody's thinking you know i mean but but people don't want to say because if they say it they sound like they're well you know they get called anti -semitic they get called i mean are you being called these names are you being called an anti -semite because of your channel i actually get called a massage agent

much more than than any time you know one of my arguments is that israel will become a dominant nation in the middle east and so um i get a lot of comments on youtube saying that i must work for massad or for the cia also i've been called a ccp agent a communist uh propagandist because i talk so much trash about the western world and i talk very little about china so i've been called all sorts of names um but i'm not i'm usually not

calling anti -semitic though and interesting interesting um so uh do you think that you're able to say the types of things that you say because the like here in america the united states is fiercely protective of jews and and you know the if you just say one thing about zionism or criticism of israel suddenly you're an anti -semite right so it's like it's an overbearing over overprotective attitude here's but i think more specifically in the united states than even in europe or other parts of the western world but asia i don't know if asia's had you know there's not that same relationship to jews that the west has because the west has a lot of people who are anti -semitic and they're anti -semitic and they're anti -semitic and they're anti -semitic and they're against jews but that's not a good thing yet and the history of world war 2 and the holocaust that's that

was a western war with the with the world war primarily i mean of course japan was involved in stuff but for for the most part when the lands particularly when it comes to jews that's a western narrative inside of world war ii a western story so is that do you think that that has made it to where people eastern people are like what's the big deal about a conversation about this group of people i mean you're willing to have conversations about muslims and then you're willing to have conversations about the Muslims and Buddhists and you know every and Hindus and every other group like why can't we have conversations about Jews now you know why not I mean is it is it do you think it's because of that sort of attitude or what what do you think that is I mean the reality is that there's less

emphasis on full correctness in China than in the United States where uh in the United States you have to be much more um careful and cautious about what you say or fear offending other groups but in China we don't have this concern because China is um this one ethnicity really um it's a uh homogeneous Society and so there just isn't that focus on correctness and so you're allowed to say certain things that could offend other groups but the red line of course is uh you can't say things that offend the Communist Party so there are certain red lines as long as you respect these red lines you're allowed to say and do whatever you want okay so as long as you

just don't go against the government itself then you're you're fine I had a conversation with a friend the other day and he was asking me he says well would you rather live in China or here in the United States you know because I was showing them all these videos of China and how amazing China is now and all the I mean the cities and villages I mean everything just it's really the new world I mean just developing really rapidly and if people really want to know the truth about China I really recommend those kind of touristy pro like walking tour videos where no one's really saying anything you know it's it's not there's no narrative around it but you can actually just see what places are like and I like to do this in my free time kind of all around the world and explore through other people's lenses um and I was showing him

all of this and he says wow that's pretty amazing and then he says so but would you rather live in the United States or China and my answer was well I'd rather live in the United States but that's because I'm a loudmouth political commentator but if I weren't and I were just something like the average person uh who doesn't really think about politics much more than they do with their lives their Families their work you know all these things then yeah China actually might be a great place to live if you don't care about government and politics and if you're just focused on your own life then it's probably great but once you turn towards the government I still have family living in that part of the world and if I get into conversations with them online about politics they say we have to stop the

conversation right now and we have to you know yeah yeah exactly from that um I mean I mean I I'm I'm very fond of the United States. I went to university there. Most of my friends are actually American because I respect the open -mindedness, the generosity, the tolerance of Americans. But I'm seeing what's happening in America, especially this past few days, and I'm just horrified. And I think this is a new normal. I think that America is heading towards a civil war. And I don't think there's any way out of this situation. It's a very dire predicament.

Well, let's get into that now, the predictive history of where we're at today. Let's start with Donald Trump. A lot of people want to compare Donald Trump to a variety of historical figures, from FDR to Hitler. Where would you say he, who is he actually most like?

Well, Donald Trump is, first of all, a unique historical figure. But if I had to, pick an analogy, I think he would be most similar to Julius Caesar. So let's go over to some aspects of Julius Caesar that resonates with Donald Trump. So Julius Caesar became powerful because he took his army into Gaul and he enslaved the population. So basically, Julius Caesar conducted this unwarranted war of imperialism against innocent people, which made himself and his soldiers rich. And it made his soldiers extremely loyal to him as well. The position, the position of the emperor, which is, you know, the emperor, which is, you know, the emperor, which is, you know, the emperor, which is, you know, the emperor, but the position class in Rome became extremely annoyed with Caesar and wanted to indict him, basically impeach him. And so Caesar crossed the Rubicon and installed a military dictatorship. And so we're seeing a very similar

situation play out in the United States as well, where Trump is creating these paramilitary forces like ICE and possibly the National Guard that are loyal only to him because only he will support their brutality. mentality. What we saw in Venezuela is the rise of Delta Force. So in the future, perhaps Delta Force will become the deterring guard for Donald Trump. And what's driving all this is tremendous popular discontent, where people don't feel as though there's any hope of a better future. Remember, in 2020, the Democrats told the people, as long as we get rid of Donald Trump, things will go back to normal. And Joe Biden came into office, inflation hit record highs. And rather than trying to make lives better, Yellen and the Treasury Department gaslighted people and told them, oh, no, we're not really in a recession, even though everyone knew they were in a recession. When Putin invaded Ukraine, Biden imposed sanctions that boomeranged against the American economy.

Biden and his people should have negotiated for peace. But Biden insisted on a full -scale war with Ukraine, which has led to basically the collapse of the American empire throughout the world. So there's public discontent, but the Democrats do not have any solutions. As the midterms approach, the Democrats could be a party of no wars, of more wealth redistribution. Instead, they have absolutely no policy ideas. And they're trying to build their own political alliance where they're trying to keep Trump And the only thing that they promise the people is, we're not Trump, and we'll probably impeach Trump if we get in the office. So right now, the choice for the people is not one between between democracy and monarchy, it's really one between monarchy and oligarchy. And given this choice, historically, people choose to pick monarchy because the first thing that monarchs tend to do is they actually cancel the debt and something called the jubilee.

And that's that's a very common way for kings to cement proper support. So I imagine if Donald Trump were to become king and that is certainly his ambition and he would cancel all of that, including student debt, including mortgages, which is and this would be tremendous relief to the American people. So I think Julius Caesar is the best analogy. And a lot of it is driven by incompetence among the ruling elite. The Democrats, the oligarchs absolutely refuse to admit that they've done anything wrong. They refuse to admit that the America has become a corrupt oligarchy and they have stymied any political changes, including Bernie Sanders. If Bernie Sanders had won in 2016 or 2020, then America and the world would be a very different place. So so it's not just Trump. It's also this elite that enables Trump. Another thing that I will say is that what seems

to be driving Trump is his thirst for revenge, because, you know, for Trump, the biggest trauma in his life is a 2020 election against Joe Biden, because he is actually convinced that he won the election. But Joe Biden, the Europeans, Obama conspired against him. And how? Well, first of all, you had the George Floyd protests in Minnesota, the Black Lives Matter protests. Then you had the covid lockdowns and you had the mail in ballots that swung the election in favor of Joe Biden at the very last minute. So you will see much of what he's doing as a revenge tour. So so he hates the Europeans because he's convinced the Europeans conspired with Obama against him in 2020. And that's why we're seeing Trump being so antagonistic against the Europeans. That's one front. Another front is that, you know, why did Trump go in and kidnap Maduro? Because I think what happened during a trial of Maduro is that Maduro will tell the people that Venezuela participated in election fraud.

In 2020, he will present evidence that the election was rigged in 2020. And now we're seeing in Minneapolis, in Minnesota is, you know, these ICE agents going around and wreaking havoc. And, you know, how things will develop in in Minnesota is tremendously important because I think that there's a very strong likelihood that what Trump will do next. Few weeks is he will pardon Derek Chauvin. And this would set the nation on fire if he were to do that. But it plays very much into Trump's psychology. He's trying to create as much havoc as possible. He's really trying to instigate a civil war with his actions. I mean, how else can you explain the fact that you have these ICE agents going going around America and besieging average American citizens? And remember, these ICE agents. Their responsibility is to deport illegal immigrants.

But guess what? Under Obama, you had more illegal immigrants deported than under Trump, even though you have this paramilitary force called ICE going around and supposedly run up, running up immigrants. I think their main main job is to test out the possible possibility of a secret police in America. There's talk of there's plans to deploy the National Guard to all 50 states this year. So. It seems as though they're trying to create the conditions for martial law or for martial law.

How could Trump, if he has the desire, you say, to become king? I mean, obviously, I don't know if America would go for an actual king. I don't think we would say, OK, you're we're ushering in a monarch and the Trump family is now the monarchy. But there would be other ways to phrase it, I suppose. And to still have the same end result.

Well, I mean, let's consider what Julius Caesar did, right? So what Julius Caesar did was he created a myth of himself as this great conquering hero. And so that's why we see Trump instigate wars around the world. Right. So Trump went into Venezuela. He's talking about bombing Mexico and Colombia. And he's talking about things over Greenland and Canada and Cuba. He's now considering attacks against Iran. And even though you and I are horrified by this at a fundamental human psychological psychological level, this inspires awe and fear among the people, which is what a great king tries to do. So Trump is trying to present himself, first of all, first and foremost, as this great conquering hero who will restore the American empire. That's number one. Number two is that, as I mentioned, he's trying to create military forces that are loyal only to him. You know, Peter Hegseth in September, last September, you know, he said that the new military doctrine is the war ethos.

You know, we will disregard all rules of engagement. We will engage in maximum lethality. So he's really talking to a special group of people in the military, which is a special forces delta, the Delta Force, the Green Berets. These are these are people who are more sympathetic to this sort of rhetoric. And so they will eventually become the most loyal to Trump, which will allow Trump to engage in targeted assassinations, sabotage, infiltration, which is what he needs. In order to basically get rid of his political opponents. That's number two. Number three is civil war. Right. So to create to create a us versus them mentality, one between left and right, Democrats and Republicans, where you're forced to pick sides. And in that situation, many people will rally around Trump. That's number three. Number four is to create a national emergency. It could be civil war, but it could be a collapse.

It could be a coup d 'etat as well. So basically, from a Trump perspective, the more chaos, the better, because it allows him to consolidate power. Then, of course, you have the issue of lobby. The issue of lobby is very much interested in a war against Iran. And, you know, Netanyahu visited Trump right before the New Year's in Mar -a -Lago. And what happened right afterwards? Well, you have the kidnapping of Maduro. You have these Iran protests. You have Trump saying that he will defend these protesters in Iran. This is not a coincidence. This is all part of a larger scheme to overthrow the Iran regime and cause collapse in Iran so that Israel can can create the greater Israel project. And so if Trump is able to deliver this to Israel, then Israel will give Trump whatever he wants. So, you know, Mayor Madison has promised Trump $250 million if he were to run for a third term.

Elon Musk has pledged $200 million for the midterms. So the resource. Is of the Israel lobby cannot ever be overstated.

Everything you're saying, it makes me wonder. I mean, in when Trump won his first term and there was a lot of talk about, oh, Trump wants to be a king, Trump wants to do X, Y, Z thing. And there was a lot of Trump Trump wants to, you know, usher in martial law. Trump wants a civil war. Trump wants to be a king. And during his first term, I thought, well, these people are really, you know, Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, they're just they're not seeing straight. But now with this term, I got to be honest. You know, I sit there. And I think so there he is almost every day proving the Democrats right. I mean, he's proving those who were saying this guy is out for power. He's proving them correct almost every single day. I mean, he's he's sitting at the White House salivating over somebody giving him a Nobel Peace Prize

like he's so, you know, he's just so just focused on all of these strange things that are about boosting himself. I mean, it's just the most bizarre thing to ever see. But it makes me wonder. You know, when you say, look, they would because you've got people around him now, like you mentioned, you know, Mary Maddison and Steve Bannon and others, Alan Dershowitz were saying, yes, there is a possibility. There's an avenue for a third term. There's an avenue for him to not give up power. And they're trying to create those conditions. And then the question is, well, what the heck are those conditions? Because only really extreme situations would would that be considered OK by the American people, you have to create chaos in order for that to happen. And it makes me wonder now going backward to twenty nineteen to the end of twenty nineteen when COVID first came around is was that

a plan of theirs that and then they tried that and it turned out a pandemic was not enough to get us to stick with the same leader, right? We did still have an election. We did still make that change. But so if they tried, like you say, some sort of an emergency, well, they tried one of the biggest emergencies of our. Lifetime, probably the biggest emergency of our lifetime, which is COVID at this point, so what would they try next? And I think you might be right. It would have to be, I think, a civil war. I don't even think war with Iran would would be enough because we've been at war many times and we still switch over president. So it have to be a civil war, right?

It would have to be a civil war. Exactly. And all the conditions are in place now for civil war. You have a polarized information landscape where people just live in their own bubbles. So you look at the shooting in Africa and both the left and right are actually convinced they're right. The left is convinced that this is an innocent woman who was killed for no reason. The right is actually convinced that she is a provocateur. She went in to resist authority. She did this. She tried to run over the officer and the officer in defense. There's actually no reconciliation between these two sides. They all live in their own social media bubbles.

But is that going to is that enough historically? I mean, what has real. People to the point of picking up a gun and shooting at their own family members because that's what happens in a civil war. Things have to get really bad.

Look, the reality is that both the Democrats and Republicans have certain paramilitary factions that will incentivize and propel a civil war. OK, so the Republicans have these white nationalist groups, the Proud Boys, the Democrats have Antifa. So these are street gangs that they can deploy in order to achieve certain political purposes. The reality is that the oligarchy benefits from a civil war because you have this massive discontent and historically either the people engage in a civil war or they engage in revolution. So you prefer revolution or to prefer a civil war. Also, right now, what's happening in Washington is this massive conflict among certain deep state factions. And I don't people really appreciate the level of conflict right now in Washington, D.C., and traditionally, historically, the way that these conflicts among the elite are settled is through civil war on the streets. The people are sacrificed in order to achieve certain political agendas. And

so I think that what's going to happen is that over the next few weeks, Trump is going to continue to antagonize his opponents. What this means is that ICE is going to provoke the people. You have random shootings of ICE agents and then you have martial law, National Guard will come in and these things can escalate really quickly. And then you have these secret agents, deep state agents working among insurrection groups, organizing them, encouraging violence, teaching them how to sabotage. So if you just look at movies like Civil War and One, battle after another, it's really predictive programming, right? They're really trying to get people in the mindset of civil war, because ultimately, at the end of the day, civil war is what benefits the oligarchy. One, because it prevents people from recognizing the true enemies of the oligarchy. But also, remember that America is $3,200 in debt. And so if your house is

worth $1 million and you owe $10 million to the bank, what you do is you burn the house down and you collect the insurance money. And that's the game plan of the oligarchy.

Okay. So it sounds, I mean, this is pretty scary, but it makes sense. We see it all the time on the national nation against nation level that elites will sit in their oval office or they'll sit in their war rooms and they'll sit there and they'll throw bodies at a war. They'll throw soldiers at a war. And they don't even think... Yeah, they do. ...about all of the young men and women who are going to be killed in civilians, children who are going to be killed in a war. And so you're saying that like a soldier for the generals and the elites, the average citizen is actually a soldier for the oligarchs. They view us as the same sort of... They just view us as soldiers and that we're going to fight their battles for them.

That is right. That is unfortunately right. Okay.

Yeah. are the factions that you can sense that are fighting behind the scenes well i mean the major

faction is the one that is establishment right the establishment faction which has been power uh for a lot for the longest time um especially under clinton and obama are um they're internationalists um they're elite they're they are um basically these coastal liberal elites um or or what we can say as a deep state and now you have the rise of mega first and mega first is supported by these ecolog arcs like peter thiel and ellen musk and what they're trying to do is they're trying to overthrow the deep state to establish their own power and i would say these are the two major factions and then the left and right factions are the sort of like the veneer of this deeper conflict yeah so it's a it's a deep state

old guard deep state being ousted by the new guard deep state that wants to take over but they're still going to be a deep state yeah exactly the new deep state is more like ai and surveillance

and they're bigger on it seems that sort of yeah right exactly so old guard is transnational capital wall street and then uh new deep state is palantir silicon valley these people yeah right okay

oh wow well do we really want to be fighting for them i think is what every average person needs to um you know in this i i'm glad we're having this conversation it's going to make me think twice about falling into the trap of the culture wars although it's you know it's not a it's one of those things where it's um it's going to be hard not to fall into that trap because people are being killed i mean that woman was killed and that officer's life is also going to be about about to except i think you're right trump will probably pardon derrick chauvin and then probably pardon this this ice officer as well so this ice officer i don't think really has to worry

well well there won't be any trial for this ice officer what's going to happen is that this ice officer is going to invite to the white house and he'll be a guest of honor for trump and this is this will just enrage half of the population of america right yeah yeah yeah i mean like like trump is like trump used to work in reality tv right the world wrestling federation he knows how to push buttons he knows how to piss people off so that they want to actually pick up arms wow yeah

okay so i mean it's going to be hard not to fall into the trap of you know is it is this what happened or is that what happened and everybody fighting with each other um not just with that not with just that but they're they're turning a lot of things into culture war issues that really should not be culture war like for example gaza you know that should not that should just be a straightforward thing that everybody watches and is appalled by but instead it's a culture war thing um you know if you're now you're a crazy brain rot liberal if you are against what israel was doing and their plan to take over you know that that region right so it's so let's

right so i'm trying to interrupt but like let's talk about artificial intelligence what the what the real purpose of artificial intelligence is right now right now artificial intelligence is used to generate these silly videos and allow students to cheat on um in school with children gpt right is that really worth trillions of dollars um you know you know open ai is planned to spend 1.4 trillion dollars on data centers over the next few years that's a lot of money that's a lot of data centers so what's ai really used for well ai is really used for surveillance technology right uh digital currency digital id but not only that with ai we can actually create this individual matrix for you where you are just inundated with with your own um in your own media bubble which just reinforces certain prejudices in you and and and and then you're then you're provoked into action right so

look at chat gpt where you know studies have have shown us that chachi has become psychotic where you're suicidal chachi actually encourages you to kill kill yourself well you know it's that that's just you know a beta testing of the true ai surveillance technology in which everyone lives in his in his information bubble and he or she is being emotionally manipulated to behave in a certain

way okay let's talk about uh pax judaica so you say right now we're in a pax americana a pax america or pax americana which what's what's the right term yeah pax americana okay yes and we're moving toward a pax judaica which is what exactly okay so um the year 1688 this is the glorious revolution

and um the king of england is overthrown by the nobility and william orange um who is from the judge republic he's installed as the king and this is significant because this creates the sovereignty of parliament so parliament now is above the king and what happens next is 1694 the creation of the bank of england and the bank of england are these private interests transnational capital um and the bank of england they they are guaranteed by parliament and so this crazy idea that these private investors can lend money to the bank of england and and um if they make money they keep their money but if they lose money then the parliament the people um guarantee their losses so it's socialized losses privatized gains okay so this becomes the new model of global finance what this happens why this happens is that in europe at this time the world is in flames the 30 years war

uh protestants versus catholics and all these rich people you know the dutch republic the habsburg empire uh the catholic church they need to be able to place their store their wealth in a more safe place as the world burns and the safest place at this time is of course england because it's being protected by the royal navy and so um all this capital shifts over to england and it's stored in the bank of england these private investors have control over this capital but it's guaranteed by both the royal navy as well as by parliament and this allows for the creation of the british empire and it's a fantastic model because um you know you fast forward 100 years and you have the rights of napoleon and napoleon is this great conqueror he conquers all of europe but um britain for the bank of england he's able they're able to finance seven wars against napoleon until

napoleon is finally defeated and then england becomes the most dominant nation in the world okay so this became this great tax britannica um britannica and then you know after world one world war ii this creates packs with americana why because if capitalists able to move to england it's also able to move to america right and and then you have creation of the federal reserve but now that america is burning where do you go now well you go to israel why because first of all israel has nuclear weapons so um israel will be safe second of all the middle east has been destroyed right israel has no competitors um iraq libya syria they've all been burned to the ground iran is the last um on on the list and so once you burn the ground then israel has complete dominance over the middle east and it can be just rebuild the middle east in a new

image and this new image will be one of ai surveillance so ideas that you have right ai digital currency digital id you're gonna face a lot of stiff resistance in america because americans like their freedom but hey the middle east has been destroyed you can you can now replace your populations with filipinos with chinese indians and then you you can insert microchips into the bloodstreams and that's what you're talking about and so it's a great thing to have this perfect you know surveillance state where everyone is martyred but not not only is everyone martyred their emotions are constantly being calibrated being controlled by um by their surveillance state and so you basically have a slave state and then you introduce transhumanism where you know all the rich people in the world they can go to jerusalem and experience all this transhumanist technology organ transplants that allow them to live 250 years um so that's the

very idea of pax judaica right capital needs to move to a more safe place which is israel but also these oligarchs they want to achieve a transhumanist humanist vision of the world and so um israel has this technology but also they want to create a surveillance state in order to maintain permanent control of the world and that's pax judaica well it's proven that they can't really

do that here right i mean kovid really sort of proved that during covid i think that was an eye -opener for for many of us where i realized wow i'm glad i'm an american living in the united states where i can live yeah i can move to a different state at least you know maybe my state's too harsh but i can move to a different state i could travel to a different part of the country and live how i want to live and so many americans completely rejected all of the mandates rejected the surveillance rejected all of that more so than many parts of the world i mean we were shocked yeah right yeah that's right and that's why we need to

prioritize our Recommendations that i've already presented to the theonner challenges of the world and the IT around it and this is through bias on everybody so wait a minute

i did think a lot about the drone parliament i didn't know that that was abbasi but i do think i think that's a game changer and i wouldn't see the remaining tax cuts very consistently soon but yeah you're right the united states is the last bastion of actual freedom because there's just so many of us that are so resistant so they so in that in that regard they cannot actually uh stay here the money you know if you're saying the money moved from pax britannica to pax americana and it's going to move again it's because they can't control the united states they can't surveil it fast enough like there's just too many issues with that so they've got to go where they're where they can do all of that and you're right i mean israel has been one of the first to implement many of these many of these measures and they always do it

under the guise of

security well gaza gaza was an ai surveillance state for the longest time so they have all the technology in place they have all the systems in place so it's it i mean like it's you know

it's it's it's a proven model they just have to scale it now so um certainly you know i encourage everybody to watch your your series and the one in particular I think it was Secretive History. Is that what it was? Your Secretive History series. And then you had the Pax Judaica, kind of the finale or one of the things that you talked about. And that is a frightening episode to watch. Everybody should watch it, but it's frightening because of how accurate it feels, where it's like going from the whole, the Zionist, in a way that I hadn't even put it together with the Battle of Gog and Magog and the world goes and tries to topple Israel. And a lot of people thought, oh, that's what's happening now. It's that this battle is happening now. A lot of Christian Zionists salivate at the idea that maybe it's happening right now because that means the second coming is sooner than later.

But your theory is no, no, that's actually in a little while longer. That's after Pax Judaica. Is formed and the center of the world becomes Israel. And when that is the actual controlling new dominant center, I got to tell you, and then while I was watching your series and watching that episode in particular, when I went to Israel, and when I was there, I left feeling like, and I couldn't shake the feeling. And I just felt like this is going to be the new leader of the world. There's no way around it. They're going to be

I went to Israel as well, and I came away with the same feeling. Yeah. I hate to say this, but when you visit Israel and you actually talk to people and you experience a culture, they really do aspire to be the world leader. They believe it.

And they will. Well, and I just think that they've got the ability to pull it off. I mean, you've got a population of very intelligent people, technologically advanced, developing tons of different, they've got a culture of development, of AI, of surveillance, of security state stuff. So they've figured out how to infiltrate our governments and control our governments. They've got an entire, and there's a lot of big questions like why didn't, there were other players in the world like China and Russia that could have helped stop the genocide that was going on in Gaza. They could have just, I had a guest on Larry Johnson last week saying that they could have just done a blockade and just said, we're going to economically sanction you until you stop doing what you're doing. But they didn't. And then that raises the question of why, why didn't they step in? What kind of power does Israel have over

them or what kind of relationship do they have that they're, and also one thing that I've always said is, Israel, this whole ally, our greatest ally, that's a one way relationship. They will not stand with us. And this is another thing I said to Larry Johnson is I said to him, look, if war breaks out between us and everybody, which it looks like the world is going to be, that's where it's headed, then Israel is going to play neutral. They're going to suddenly become Switzerland. I mean, they're going to be like, oh, you're at war between China and Russia. We're friends with everybody. We don't want to make, you know what, we're just going to sit this one out and we're going to deliver orange juice. I mean, that's all they did for us. Out of all the wars that we've done, they delivered some orange juice during the Korean war. Other than that, you know, and I think it'll be the same sort of thing.

They'll be like, oh, gee, you know what? We got our own problems and we don't really want to get involved with all of you, so best of luck to everybody. We're friends with you all. And whoever in the end wins, we're here. We're still here, right? So it's very much beneficial to them for the rest of us to go to war with each other.

And they end up being the global leader. Well, that's how they maintain the Pax Judaica, which is very similar to the Pax Britannica, right? Because England is a very small nation and has very few resources. So the only way you can maintain power is by sowing discontent and chaos throughout the entire world. You can entirely blame World War I on the British. I mean, I know it's the Germans who blame, but it's really the British who caused World War I and the senseless deaths of millions of people, right? So Britain has been sowing chaos for a few hundred years. And I think Israel will use the same strategy.

Yeah, don't underestimate because of size, right? You do have the UK, Great Britain is a small place and they still dominated a huge, massive amount of the world. Same Japan, Imperial Japan had a lot of power, tiny little place. So don't underestimate size. Okay. So where are we at today? So here we are. It feels like we're always looming on the brink of World War III. For a minute there, especially when Trump was bombing Iran, I thought, oh no, here it is, it's beginning. And then it all calmed down and I thought, okay, well, maybe not. And now it feels like we're ramping back up, especially with him saying he's going to go take everywhere. I mean, what country hasn't he named at this point? Where do you see with this predictive history? Where do you see it going? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Where, who's going to be battling who. When does it begin? Has it already begun and who wins?

Yep. Yeah, no, I would say we've been in World War III ever since 2021, 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine because that was a proxy war really between the United States and Russia, right? Because even though it was Ukrainians who were fighting on the battlefield, it was NATO intelligence, NATO targeting, NATO special forces, NATO financing, NATO weaponry. Everything that they had. Except, yes, it was a proxy for container warfare over, except old용, except special пол. its ground forces um so i would say we've been a war ever since 2022 but definitely this year things will ramp up and uh the conflict will go global okay so let's look at certain uh key hot spots right so ukraine will will maintain will continue to be uh one of the major flashpoints of the world because europeans will not give up project ukraine you cannot afford to give up project ukraine because it'll go bankrupt otherwise so you

have you'll have european volunteers european special forces going into ukraine to show up their front lines because it seemed as though european front lines will collapse at any moment okay and uh they won't do antagonize russia and putin you know there was this um silly attack against putin's residents trying to assassinate him a few weeks ago which really angered putin and putin specifically said forget this no more negotiations you guys are hopeless this is all hopeless let's just finish this on the battlefield okay so i think russia has basically has basically decided that no we can only decide this on the battlefield so this war in ukraine will continue to escalate um the europeans will move towards conscription false conscription especially germany so so you will see the re -militarization of germany which will antagonize uh the other european nations um trump will continue to piss off the europeans um trump will continue to side

with the russians against europeans because trump in our in his heart really really hates um the Europeans. So that's the European Russia front, okay? In America, Trump will continue to exert dominance over the Western Hemisphere. The reason why is that in April, he visits Beijing. And this is a very key meeting for Trump. In fact, I believe that President Trump and President Xi are scheduled to meet four times this year, and the first will be April. And they have to work out a grand bargain, okay? So the conflict right now is that the United States needs China to continue to purchase U.S. dollars because the U.S. dollars is this great Ponzi scheme. And if China switched to gold or tries to nationalize the UN, this could cause a Ponzi scheme collapse. But at the same time, China still needs access to markets. And the great fear is that the United States uses its navy to embargo China, which is what you're seeing in Venezuela today, okay?

So they need to work out a grand bargain. And so what Trump needs to show President Xi is that, I control the Western Hemisphere. I control Mexico. control venezuela i control brazil i control canada i control greenland that's why there's all these provocations against greenland at this at this time and eventually you have publications against canada as well because the reason why is that china relies on the western hemisphere for access to uh silver lithium and copper as well as other rare earth minerals which fuels china's ai growth uh its ev industry its batteries its solar panels so its entire high -tech industry relies on these commodities from the western hemisphere so if trump decides to choke off china then china's um high -tech industry would suffer a great deal and so i think eventually uh china and united states will come

to a grand bargain where um and so for example look at venezuela where trump has said that american companies will go and modernize the venezuela oil industry and guess what these american companies excel mobile they're not going to do that because they have to invest tens of billions of dollars and there's great risk involved because trump is volatile right but the chinese will the chinese will go and invest all this money and modernize their own industry so that they can extract this oil to feed their own economy china relies um on three quarters of its oil from overseas half of it half of its oil supply comes from the middle east so there's a war in iran then china's kind of screwed right so i think the grand bargain will be reached between china and the united states the problem though is japan because as china becomes closer to the united states japan fears the

rise of china right and the great issue is taiwan to so both china and japan rely on well imports from the middle east and so they have to go through the state of malacca that's that's a main trade route and so whoever controls taiwan can choose to embargo the other nation so you know the japanese prime minister taki actually has said that taiwan is a vital strategic risk to japan and she's correct but that caused a huge political furor in china and china right now wants it wants to blockade embargo japan deny japan rare earth minerals so this year we're going to see this massive conflict arise between japan and china because there's no way there's no there's no way around it these are both nations that are heavily dependent on trade and they will get into each other's way and so and this conflict benefits united states because both china united states are going

to see a lot of hostilities between china and japan and so you'll see a lot of hostilities between china and japan right so trump and some more weapons to uh to japan so so that's that's a play but but you'll see increased hostility between china and japan even as relations between china united states improve you'll see increased conflict between russia and united states in the oceans because right now the united states is engaged in piracy right japan states is going around and and stealing these oil tankers from russia and from china and there was an incident where bella won what what one of these shadow lead tankers it was trying to be it was it was being boarded by the u.s coast guard and the russians intervened so you'll see more of these incidents and in fact russia will eventually figure out that even though we cannot defeat um united states in the oceans

it has to challenge the united states in the oceans so it has to build up a blue water navy and china will probably finance this blue water navy in order to build up a blue water navy and china will probably finance this blue water navy in order to build up a blue water navy in order so the united states can produce one ship for every 250 ships that china produces okay so china has this tremendous shipbuilding capacity and if united states engages in this nil in this warfare against russia in the seas eventually a war of attrition will will will happen and the united states navy will will face rapid decline okay so i see how this this is how i see the global landscape turning out the same time united states you have civil war emerge you have civil war emerged probably as well you have economic collapse everywhere and then these nations won't

be forced to scramble for resources and to protect trade access so 2026 is when things accelerate um trump will continue to be an antagonistic he'll continue to um piss everyone off the europeans um the the american left um and um yeah i mean we're headed for a very stormy um for for a very stormy time a very turbulent time in our history but but this is a new normal uh 2027 2027 will be even worse because that that's why i think that the united states will actually launch invasion of iran so uh 2026 will be a great conflict between china and america as they try to reconcile the differences and once you reconcile the differences this will open up uh iran for invasion because great fear is that united states invades iran at this point russian china will and there's a great possibility that the answers will lose this war um there's no way that

russia will abandon uh iran but china can be negotiated away from uh from iran and that's trump's game plan before he launches a full -scale invasion of iran look it's already been settled there's already an agreement that united states will go and invade iran because if the united states wants to maintain its imperial hegemony it needs to control trade access it needs to control iran um because is blockaded the belt and road initiative is dead and and now the entire russian southern flank okay the southern bottom of russia is open up it's opened up and and russia could be out flanked so um iran is crucial to the maintenance of american hegemony the question that the question now is when will this happen and how will this happen so i think it will happen next year not this year um and any and trump needs to create this grand bargain with china before he moves

ahead um iran will also be a major flashpoint in 2026 because um right now these protests in iran and we know exactly what's going to happen because we've seen this people before in libya and syria what's going to happen is that wassad is going to create these insurgent groups in iran on the borderlands they'll be protected by airstrikes and be financed by um by the cia uh you have these wassad agents um leading these groups and you'll have slowly economic blockade of iran uh you have sabotage infiltration in iran you're gonna hear a lot about iran because the americans the israelis they'll try to create this in this narrative that any day now the molas will flee to moscow any day now the regime will collapse any day now the military will launch a coup d 'etat against iran any day now the these Iranian people will rise up and overthrow the regime. And look, the reality is that Iran is under tremendous pressure.

And so you'll have this infiltration, you'll have these insurgent groups, you'll have some warfare going on in Iran. So you'll hear a lot about Iran in 2026.

What are the chances none of this happens and we just go on and live our merry lives and we just don't see a big world war again? What are the chances, do you think?

No, I think we've crossed the Rubicon. I think we are in a new normal. I think it's very hard to go back to 2020. I know that a lot of people believe that in November, the Democrats will win the midterms and somehow we'll go back to normal. But think about who the Democrats will run in November. They'll probably run a lot of blue dogs, right? These candidates from the national security apparatus. And what do they want? They want Trump to accelerate these wars overseas. They want Trump to attack Iran. They want Trump to, they want Trump to antagonize Russia, right? So I think we've crossed the Rubicon. I think we are in a break world.

But it sounds like with what you're, the picture you're painting with this world war is that it's Russia versus Europe. It's Japan versus China. It's Israel versus Iran. But the United States is doing deals, it sounds like. Like maybe to try to stay, I mean, besides a naval blockade style war, it sounds like the US is, I mean, it, it, it, it, it, it, until the US has to go and invade Iran on behalf of Israel. Cause probably what'll lead up to that is Israel's going to have to attack Iran, be in a war with Iran. Israel's going to have to start losing that war in order for the United States to rush in and help them out. If, if Israel's winning that war, the US won't do that. So Israel would have to start losing that war.

I think. You'll also see a lot of false flags in 2026, right? So these attacks against American interests in Iraq, in Syria. And basically, and also possibly on the homeland as well. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I, I, I, I think you're right, but I would also add in the possible false flags as well. False flags, okay.

And that, yeah. And that would piss off everybody. And then we'd say, go to war. That's it. Just like 9 11. Yeah. So, so other than the, other than the US going into Iran, it looks, it sounds like you're saying the US is going to try to not go to war with Russia. I mean, Trump doesn't seem to want that. I don't think we want war with China. And actually I don't think China wants war with anybody. I mean, I feel like China doesn't want to get involved at all. Maybe financing, but that's it.

That's right. You're exactly right. Yes. China will engage in development and financing, but that's it. It will not send in troops anywhere. Look, I mean, if you read the national security strategy, right, which is Trump's framework for the, for, uh, the empire for the next, um, 10 years, a lot of people believe that, uh, the national security strategy, it's about creating spirits of influence, right? A multipolar world where Russia controls Europe, China controls East Asia and the United States stays, stays in the Western hemisphere. If you actually read the national security strategy, it doesn't say that. It doesn't say that the United States will retreat back in the Western hemisphere. What it does say is that the United States will maintain its empire through a new strategy before it maintains its empire through these multilateral organizations like the United Nations. And now what the national, what the strategy is to abandon the illusion of these

liberal multilateral organizations, just leave the United Nations, which is what the United States has done and focus on pure power politics. And it will use dividing rule in order to maintain control over the world. So it will not leave East Asia, but it will promote Japan as its proxy in a war against China. Okay. Um, so it's going to leave Europe, but it's, it's, but it's going to overthrow these liberal, uh, European regimes and instead champion nations like Austria, Hungary, and Poland, which are more aligned with Trump values. Um, and it's going to fight in Africa or influence and economic dominance against China. It, the United States does not plan to see anywhere. The United States will not retreat from anywhere, but it's going to change the rules of the game to meet the new reality of the American empire. Before Americans were shy about empire before Americans insist on the rules based liberal in actual order.

And Trump's like, screw that we're an empire might is right. Let's just be an empire.

Where is the safest place in the world to be during all of this? Would you say, you know what?

I have three kids. I'm trying to figure out the same thing. Okay. Um, so I've been thinking about this for a long time. The problem is that wherever place you pick everyone goes to, right? So like, look, everyone believes that New Zealand will be safe, but if everyone's going to New Zealand, how safe is that? Right? If Peter Thiel is building a bunker in New Zealand and all this money is being, is flowing to New Zealand, um, that's, that's going to create a lot of conflict and chaos as well. But the reality is that, uh, natives don't like immigrants, uh, you know, so, you know, you go to Europe and you have all these immigrants that are, and the natives hate that. And it'll probably create a race war in Britain. Um, New Zealand is not, it's right now under a lot of strain. Um, you know, the natives are being priced out of the property market.

Um, so I wouldn't say it's about geography. I would say it's more about mindset. I think in this new world, you have to give up this materialist mindset where, you know what, I'm going to make a million dollars, retire, buy myself a yacht and enjoy the world. You have to focus on your own spiritual and philosophical development. You have to like learn things. You have to watch the news. You have to be resilient. You have to think about what, what matters in life. Um, what would you have to recognize is that ultimately this world can go to chaos, but guess what? Most of you, most of human history has been chaos. But what matters to me is my family, my friends, my children, my community. If you focus on that, you will get past all this chaos. This chaos will not affect you. If you're able to build a strong community and you're

all focused on all on spiritual, personal, personal fulfillment, um, I guarantee you'll, you'll live a very happy life if you even do that. But if you're insistent on like, you know, like I have $10 million in the bank, so it's like go investing in gold and silver. Should I move to Israel or New Zealand or Chile? Uh, you know, you know, you're, you'll just drive yourself insane because, um, this world is going to go crazy. And if you, if you believe that you can, you have $10 million, you can maintain this wealth, um, during this, all this chaos, you're, you'll just go insane. Um, you have to, you have to give up the idea that wealth matters in this world. What matters at the end of that, at the end of the day is mindset, resilience, uh, spirituality.

Well, uh, professor Jiang, thank you so much for being here. Um, and, and sharing with us your knowledge and the predictive history, the game theory. It's, uh, uh, it is a scary time that we're marching into, but I agree with you. You know, people live in war torn areas. My mother grew up in one, people survive people. If you focus on the right things, um, you could get through it and, uh, and, and that is, I, so I like what you say there at the end. That is, that is what we should be focusing on realigning our values and what we, what we, what we value, what we want to hold on to. So, um, the YouTube channel is predictive history. I do have the link down below. Uh, definitely, you know, more people should be watching you. You already have a million. You should have more than that soon enough. Um, you're doing amazing work, really absolutely love everything that you're doing.

So thank you so much and keep it up. And thank you so much for being here with us.

No, thanks so much. It was a wonderful, wonderful first conversation. I, I would love to be back whenever you have time.

I'd love to have you back. That's for sure. Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you for watching this clip from the full Kim Iverson show, which you can watch Monday through Friday, 5 PM, Eastern 2 PM, Pacific at Kim Iverson show.com. See you there.