Jiang Xueqin: The Iran War: The Watershed Moment That Changed the Middle East Forever

hi everybody today is saturday march 7th 2026 and our new friend professor jung is here with us welcome professor hi and it's it's the first time you are in this podcast i know that many of our audience know you from your you know videos on youtube on these lectures you know amazing lectures that i got familiar recently with those lectures i was amazed with the information with the wisdom in those videos and how you connect the historical facts to what is going on right now and what would happen in the future considering all this history and jung what is right now what is happening right now in the aftermath of that devastating war in ukraine which literally destroyed ukraine and right now we have a new war in the middle east this is not a war between you know the united states and iraq or afghanistan they didn't have that much of power to fight

back this is iran it's somehow different in terms of the size of the country size of the population their military power is different what is your understanding of what's going on in the middle east right so um we are in world war

three right now um it's only been a week but this war between united states and iran can only escalate over time so today there are rumors circulating online that the 82nd airborne division of the united states army has been given deployment orders um they've they've stopped uh training exercises and it is possible they will be deployed to the middle east very soon uh possibly possibly within the next few days. The use of ground troops against Iran would mark a massive escalation. Right now, it's mainly an air war where the United States and Israel have air supremacy, meaning that they can strike at will against Iran. And because the costs are limited, even though America and Israel are suffering casualties, it isn't that many casualties. They're trying to avoid as many casualties as possible. And so they can theoretically retreat from this war. But the moment that ground troops go into Iran, then it is impossible to retreat.

And this war can only escalate. So a massive turning point in this conflict will be the use of ground troops. If ground troops are used, then we are in World War III, and this will mark the end of the world as we know it. A ground war would also most likely draw in other actors as well. It may draw in the GCC. It may draw in the Europeans. It will definitely draw in Russia. It may even draw in China. And it may also draw in South Korea and Japan as well. Because remember, the Shifu Moos supplies most of the oil to the Asian economies of Pakistan, India, Japan, South Korea, and China. In fact, the Shifu Moos provides about 75 % of all of Japan's oil needs. And the Japanese Prime Minister, Takeuchi, has said that if this war continues, the Shifu Moos continues to be closed, then Japan will run out of oil in about eight months' time.

So we can imagine that there is panic, panic within the Japanese cabinet, and they are actually preparing to intervene somehow in this conflict, whether it's diplomatically, whether it's economically, or even militarily. South Korea may also need to come in as well. So the Shifu Moos really is a nexus of the world. It is the center of all global trade. And if the Shifu Moos stays closed because of this war, then eventually will draw an entire world. You mentioned war in Ukraine previously, and from a geopolitical perspective, this war in Iran is actually, it is what follows naturally from the war in Ukraine. Because from a geopolitical perspective, Russia, if it were to win the war in Ukraine, it would have control over one thing. third of the world's carbohydrates russia if it wanted to could starve the middle east and could starve africa ukraine is the breadbasket of europe

without ukrainian energy and food and russian energy the europeans are suffering economically and so if um europe is to survive then it needs its energy from the middle east and so what america is trying to do is trying to control the middle east by strangling iran to death and so in many ways this war in iran is a response to the russian invasion of ukraine you know russia has complete battlefield dominance in ukraine this war in ukraine is essentially lost and so um if america is able to win this war in iran it will now control the energy supplies of the middle east um it will control all the trade in the world you know there's a dream of a eurasian heartland a grand alliance between russia iran and china iran is the pivot point so if iran were to collapse then america would still be able to compete control global trade the petrodollars would

still be the dominant currency of the world and so this is really a struggle of life and death for the american empire and that's why in many ways america has no choice now but to go all in and send ground troops i think the whole the big

picture of the region is is of importance i know that you've been talking about the state of israel and the agenda of the united states with the state of israel so here you have a so called israel but from what you see so so far you know we had the case of venezuela that the united states donald trump came in and said that we are in control of venezuela right now in in one of the latest interviews on fox news there's they're talking the same way we have to control the oil in iran did they you know the whole concept how do you see the concept of greater israel and the

concept of controlling oil right so um israel um since its founding in 1948 has always had a mesitic mission to re -establish the kingdom of david the kingdom of david 3 000 years ago um was this cosmopolitan empire that controlled the entire middle east from its strategic location in the levant and israel wants to uh re -establish the kingdom of david the israelis also believe that the greater israel project is what yahweh their god promised to abraham their uh great ancestor if you look at the greater israel project on a map you just google greater israel project what you will see is that it encompasses the entire middle east um so the ambitions the territorial ambitions of the israelis is vast greater israel extends from the nile to the euphrates so that means that israel will eventually have to go and conquer egypt after this war and in iran eventually subsides it would also has

to have to conquer uh saudi arabia and there's talk among some fanatical uh israelis that they want to actually seize and control mecca medina um the greater israel project also includes parts of turkey um as well and already the israelis are talking about what a menace turkey is so natalie bennett who was former prime minister of israel and the person who is most likely to succeed as you may not yahoo uh once he retires from the scene he says that actually turkey is new iran right so the idea is that let's gonna get we're gonna get iran out of the way uh but then we're gonna go after turkey okay so turkey is on the agenda as is saudi arabia and really if you look at how israel is fighting this war right now in iran it's actually trying to destroy as much of the middle east as possible okay so you have this saturation

carpet bombing in iran so israel is trying to destroy the iranians capacity to run a state to provide basic services to its people as well as the military capacity of the state so that when they established the greater usual project iran will not be a factor um they're trying to divide iran into ethnic enclaves that will war against each other um that and massage agents will go into iran and support different factions okay it's dividing rule that the british empire used to control most of the um world but if you look at what's happening right now there's discussion there are rumors that a lot of these drones a lot of these attacks against the gcc countries are actually massage false flags against the iranians and so you have this drone that attacked azerbaijan and the the azure government said that oh why are the iranians attacking us we're going to launch a ground invasion of

iran and the iranians like this drone was not from us uh and so there's rumors that was massad that launched this drone attack against azerbaijan for the war um between azerbaijan and iran then you have this attacks against these um saudi oil facilities which caused saudi arabic called the lock the state oil supplier in saudi arabia to close down and at first it was reported that it was the iranians who struck these oil facilities but then the iranians came out and said that it wasn't us because why would we attack the oil facilities of the gcc if we did that then that would provoke the saudi arabian government to come attack our oil facilities so we we would not do that and now there's reporting that actually the attacks against saudi office of these came from lebanon all right from the west rather from the east and so people now suspect that uh this is

another israeli false flag meant to provoke conflict within the gcc meant to bring saudi arabia into the war that so that iran would destroy saudi arabia's oil facilities and then you have tarah carlson who a few days ago on his show He said that Qatari officials told him secretly that they had arrested two Mossad agents who were suspected of sabotage in Qatar. Now the Qatari government has denied this and will never know the truth, but it makes sense that Mossad would want to try to sabotage and infiltrate the GCC as much as possible because, first of all, they see the GCC, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar as eventual competitors, but also they're trying to make this war as wide as possible in order to make it easier to achieve the greater Israel project. So that is the situation right now in Iran and the Middle East.

You know, we are witnessing a... a conflict between two forces, one from the east, the other from the west. These two forces are fighting each other. One is not that much eager to fight. It was... I'm talking about Russia, Iran, and China. Mostly they want to communicate. They started communicating with the United States. They continue these negotiations with the United States. They're trying to do their best. On the other hand, you see the behavior of the United States is mostly... like the British Empire in these... in its last years, you know, and they want to dominate everything. They want to force each and everybody into submission. How do you see this great game, this great power game working out for the region?

Right. So as you point out, America is desperate. It's anxious. It's afraid that its empire is collapsing and therefore it is lashing out against the world. You know, when America won the Cold War, the entire world celebrated this. Remember when the Berlin Wall fell and the jubilation, the exhalation of the Germans when they could be unified as a people. And there was great hope in the 90s that American hegemony would lead to Pax Americana, a time of peace and prosperity for everyone. And for the most part, this was true. I mean... You know, if you were in Europe, if you were in the Anglosphere, if you were in China, then yeah, you had a very good time. But unfortunately, America started to become corrupt and arrogant. So after 9 -11, America launched these wars in the Middle East for no particular reason. Destroyed Afghanistan as a viable nation state, destroyed Iraq, which in the 1980s

was a flourishing, prosperous, middle -class nation, it destroyed Libya, it destroyed Syria, again, for no particular reasons. And so America started to become this bully in the Middle East in order to enact its certain ideas about the world. And then you have this massive corruption, which led to the 2008 Great Financial Crisis, which almost collapsed the entire global economy. So what's happening was that because America was the only hegemon. So what's happening was that because America was the only hegemon. So what's happening was that because America was the only hegemon. Most countries of the world were sending their investments to America, and Wall Street became the most powerful entity in America. It led to the financialization of America. So it shipped its manufacturing overseas, primarily to China, and America focused on financial services. And that led to speculation, that led to gambling, that led to risky assets and derivatives. And ultimately, this system imploded in the 2008 Great Financial Crisis.

And not only that. Not only did no one go to jail for all these crimes and misdemeanors, but in fact, the financial industry was able to cement its political power over America. And this has led to, first of all, massive inequality in America, where if you are just an average person, the American dream is dead to you. You can no longer afford to buy a house. You can no longer afford to have a family. You can no longer afford to retire. It's led to massive inequality. It's also led to massive corruption. Where Washington has been completely co -opted by the financial elite, where the Democrats and Republicans serve the financial elite of Wall Street. And the third thing is that it's led to complacency. It's led to arrogance. America no longer makes things. It just makes things up. I mean, America has become this fantasy land. And so yeah, so the American empire was not sustainable.

But at the same time, the American empire still has the greatest military in the world. And the Russians were really the first to challenge America's global hegemony by invading Ukraine. And at that time, the Americans did three things, right? The first thing that they did was they sanctioned Russia, which meant that Russia is no longer able to trade with anyone through the SWIFT system. Yeah. And the second thing that they did was they banned the financial architecture of the world. So the SWIFT system, the Russians were banned from. The second thing that they did was split in theft, where $300 billion of Russian assets were seized by the Europeans and the Americans. $300 billion still sits frozen in European banks. You know, a few months ago, the Europeans were discussing the possibility of using these Russian stolen money to finance the war in Ukraine. And the third thing that the Americans did was blockade or ask Europe to stop buying cheap Russian energy.

We know exactly what happened afterwards, okay? The North Sea pipeline was blown up, and Germany was forced to pay 50 % more for its energy needs from the Americans, liquefied natural gas from the Americans. And so the German economy basically collapsed. Yeah. Right? So by using its imperial powers, what America did was not really destroy Russia. Actually, America destroyed its reputation, right? Because if you can just steal money that people put in your banks, no one's going to put any money in your banks anymore. And so this has led to a massive downgrade in the power of the US currency, the US dollar. America catalyzed its own allies. Yeah. So Europe has collapsed economically. Germany is suffering really, really badly. And it's really emboldened the war to stand up against America. So remember, what happened after the Russian war is that the aura of inviolability and invincibility that's the same American empire start to be broken.

And then you have these nations in Africa who started to seek self -sufficiency. They wanted national sovereignty over Europe. They wanted national sovereignty over their own resources. And so they threw out the French colonial powers. They threw out the French military. That's a how, right? And so we're seeing this throughout the world. And so under Trump, the response is to show the world that America still is the global hegemon and that America has no peer adversary. And that's why we saw the kidnapping of Maduro, President Maduro from Venezuela, which is a blatant. Yeah. Violation of international law. It was a complete humiliation of the Venezuelan nation state as well as its people. And then, of course, remember that they paraded Maduro on the streets of New York as though he was this captured war prisoner. And so it's humiliating for him as well.

And then after Venezuela, of course, you have this war in Iran. And this war in Iran was, again, meant to show the world that America still has it, that the American empire cannot be challenged. And now it's kind of blow up in their face, OK? But that's a background as to how this war started.

I think for many years with the outcome of the British Empire, which is the, you know, all these Arab states are the output of the British Empire. And then you see the American bases in these countries, you know, a country like Saudi Arabia, who has a defense budget of 10 times, more than 10 times of the defense budget that we are on. And they they're not even capable of defending themselves. They need American bases in their countries. Who are these Arab states and what is the agenda? Because so far from what we've seen in this, it wasn't less than it was seven days, eight days that we have this conflict between Iran and the United States, this war that totally devastated all these American bases in the Persian Gulf. And that's why, you know, the early. You know, warning system in Israel is not working the way it was before the war started. And they're

told somehow blind and they don't know how to predict these missiles that are getting to Israel. On the other hand, you've mentioned something so important, which is the invasion on the ground in Iran that the Iranian we had the Iranian foreign minister having an interview with NBC MSNBC said that. We are prepared. Let's we are prepared for them. And how do you see the whole game in the Middle East and how this game, how this war is not a game anymore is the war is killing people.

And right. So first of all, it's important to understand that these GCC countries, there are artificial constructs of empire. So let me explain what I mean by that. First of all, all these nations were supported. They came into being because of the British Empire. Right. So Saudi Arabia, the House of Saud, they were put into power by the British Empire as a counterweight to the Ottoman Empire. So this is a great game. And the British Empire just put their puppets into place into different Middle East countries because they knew that these countries had massive amounts of oil and that oil would be the great wealth of the 20th century. And so it's all planned before. So all these monarchies, they owe their. They. I mean, they're they owe their allegiance to to empire. Right. So after the British Empire fell, the American empire replaced them. And so and then the American empire maintain this sort of vast relationship with with these Gulf states.

Now it worked out great for these Gulf states because you you were under the protection of the American military. And at this time, during the Cold War, your adversary was Soviet Union. And because of mad, mutually assured destruction, these two countries would not go to war. War against each other. Right. And so the Middle East countries could sell oil to everyone. And so we didn't have to pay for defense. And it was making all these billions of dollars, trillions of dollars to selling oil. So it was like the best deal in the world. And that allowed these GCC countries to expand to grow their population, to build cities. But the problem with these GCC nations is that they don't actually have the building blocks of nations. They don't have. They don't have access to fresh water, 60 percent of the water comes from desalination plants. They don't have access to own food.

They import 89 percent of their own of their food from overseas. And they don't have an indigenous population capable of 21st century knowledge economy. So they basically import their their knowledge workers as well from overseas. So these are not viable nation states. And for the longest time. People were so dazzled by the wealth, the glitz of the Middle East that people really didn't understand this fundamental issue. And so the entire GCC is this a giant mirage created by American empire as well as post Cold War peace and prosperity. And now this Iran war, this mirage has been shattered. And now everyone understands how easy it is. They destroy any of these nation states. What's happening in Bahrain right now is is literally a revolution because most of the country of about 50 percent actually is Shia minority. And they are they are ruled over by the Sunnis. And so there's a religious dynamic going on.

And the Shia and the Bahrainians are naturally sympathetic towards Iranians. And they don't the fact that the American Fifth Fleet is based in Bahrain. So now that there's this war going on. And now that the Iranians are striking at U.S. military bases that and now that Americans killed the other Khomeini, which is a religious leader, the outpost, a religious leader of the Shia or like all around the world, not necessarily in Iran and a fatwad, a religious decree has been has been released calling for Shia Muslims for to to jihad. Right. And that's why you have all these uproars. You have all these uprisings in Pakistan, in Iraq, in Kuwait and Buran. So Buran is actually on the verge of revolution. So that just shows you how unstable these countries are, even though they're extremely wealthy. UAE has was had an image of being the Middle East version of

Hong Kong, Singapore, New York, London, this financial hub where wealthy expatriates can go and not pay taxes and enjoy Michelin star restaurants. It's a wonderful city. Dubai is a wonderful city. But again, it's just based on its reputation of being very wealthy and being peaceful and being safe. And so one drone just shot at this image and now you have, you know, everyone trying to flee Dubai, apparently like luxury star hotel rooms in Dubai today go as low as like nine dollars U.S. U.S. dollars. So if you want like a cheap vacation and you're looking for adventure, I would recommend Dubai. But good luck getting a flight into Dubai. The Emirates are canceled. All. All flights because of this war going on. OK, so the UAE is not going to last after this war. Saudi Arabia is also in a lot of trouble because Riyadh, which is a city of millions of people

and before, like like 30 years ago, it was the city of like a few hundred thousand. Why was it a few hundred thousand? We didn't have access to water, which is the desert. And so with millions of people, you need these massive desalination. Plants. But then you can blow these desalination plants up easily with a drone with $50,000 drone and completely destroy Saudi Arabia. OK, so so these these nations are not sustainable in the long term. Plus the fact that, you know, Saudi Arabia for the longest time has been trying to transition out of its oil economy for the longest time it was dependent on oil. And now in the past 10 years, they recognize that they need a knowledge economy. They recognize that they need more tourism. That's why they spent those those dollars to bring in e -gaming, to bring in football stars like Cristiano Ronaldo to to build new attractions.

You know, they wanted to build like an indoor ski slope in Saudi Arabia, in a desert. They had something called the Nome, the line, which was like literally the straight line that went across the Arabian Peninsula. And any architect could tell you, like, these are all just crazy dreams. And these crazy dreams were enabled because of hubris, because of all this money and wealth that was flowing, flowing in Saudi Arabia. But again, all this was based on the belief that peace and prosperity could continue forever. When in fact, the world was a much more fragile place. Not any of these nations in the GCC are actually. OK. We see the same real nation states with real, real population. Now, it's a stain. These nation states. OK, that's that's the first point. These Arab states are construct of empire. The second point I will make is this. The American military for the longest time didn't actually have the fight a real war.

OK. So I saw the last real war that I thought was probably Vietnam. The person go for it. I think I know. I know. I think 91 was on a real war. It's a video game where, you know, you have these. airplanes, high -tech airplanes, which were able to incinerate Saddam Hussein's soldiers. I mean, just look at the visuals from the first Persian Gulf War. It was not a real war. It was just a video game, essentially. In 2003, when the Americans invaded Iraq, what people don't remember is Saddam Hussein did not have any air defense, not one. Why didn't Saddam Hussein have any air defense? Because first of all, he had suffered over 10 years American sanctions, so his nation was too poor to have air defense. The second point is that he knew that he couldn't defend against an American invasion. So what was the point anyway in preparing?

If Americans came, you're dead anyway. So he just gambled. He felt that the Americans would not be stupid enough to invade Iraq, because if you invaded Iraq, you would empower Iran. You would make Iran the hegemon or the main power in the Middle East, and why would the Americans want to do that? So clearly, Saddam Hussein was wrong. So 2003, the Iraq War was not a real war as well. So for the longest time, the Americans have not fought a real war. Now they're fighting a real war, and what we're seeing is the American military is not as strong as people believe, and the reason why is the military -industrial complex is first and foremost corrupt. It's not meant to fight wars. It's meant to steal as much money from taxpayers using the justification of wars, right? So during the Cold War, it was not possible for the Soviet Union and for America to actually go head -to -head.

So what they did was they invested in very expensive weapons systems that made them look good, which cost a lot of money, which cost a lot of money, which was impressive on paper, but which really didn't do anything, okay? So really, it was about flexing rather than about really fighting a conventional war, and that's what we're seeing today in the Middle East, where America has all these really impressive air defense systems, right? The FAD system, which costs billions of dollars. You have the Patriot system. You have the Iron Dome. I mean, it's all very impressive, but look, but look. Look how ineffective it is. it is against Iranian assault. And the Iranians have told us they're actually not, have yet to release their most advanced weaponry. This week has just been, you know, the old stockpile of drones, of redundant missiles, to soften the weapon systems of the air defense systems of the Israelis and Americans and the GCC.

And already Israel and the GCC are suffering massive casualties and massive damage from the war. So what this war has shown us is that the world really is a mirage. It's a hallucination. What you believe to be true is not actually true.

I think many of us are somehow confused with the concept of Israel, because after all, Donald Trump wanted to help Israel, but it seems from what we've seen so far, you see no footages coming out of Israel. And then what is happening in Israel that nobody knows, because it seems, it seems that a huge devastation is happening and nobody knows what's going on. But from Iran, we know, as you've mentioned, the footages are coming out. We know where they're heading and what is the devastation that is happening in Tehran, for example.

Right, so there's a very good reason why there's no footage coming out of Israel. The reason why is Israel was completely humiliated in the 12 -day war. Remember, Israel really thought that it would take them like a few days to destroy Iran, because their entire strategy was decapitation, right? So they went in to kill the top leadership of the Iranians. And for the first few days, it was really impressive. They were killing these scientists, these generals, these officials, these clerics in their homes. And so that showed you the extent of the Mossad network in Iran. That showed you the extent of the advancement of Israeli weaponry. And it also showed you that Israel had complete, total dominance over the skies. And this happened because of the fall of Syria, right? So after Syria fell to ISIS, this created this air corridor where now the Israelis can just fly uncontested directly to Iran. And before, Syria was the early air defense warning system for the Iranians.

That's why they had invested so much in protecting the Assad regime. So in the first few days, it seemed as though Israel was on the brink of destroying Iran once and for all. But the Iranians proved much more resilient than anyone could imagine. And the Iranians start to fire back at their Israelis. And the Israelis were actually suffering a lot of damage, especially in Tel Aviv. And the images coming out of Israel were shocking and actually humiliating. And so the Israelis basically begged the Americans to come in and save them from losing. to Iran. And that's why Trump and the Iranians sort of orchestrated or coordinated or choreographed this conflict, right? You know, where one or two B -2 bombers went in and blew up an empty mountain. And then the Iranians struck back and attacked an empty U.S. base in Qatar. And that was it.

Okay. And that was the end of the 12 -Day War. And then if you remember, Netanyahu went to talk to Putin, okay, and asked Putin to do him a favor and talk to Iranians and said, listen, listen, Trump says that we've taken out your nuclear weapons program, your Iranian innovation program, and that's good enough for us. So I promise you, Iran, that we, the Israelis, will not provoke another conflict. There will be peace between us. And Putin delivered that message. That was widely reported at that time. And we really thought that at the end of the 12 -Day War, we would have peace in the Middle East because the Iranians have demonstrated to everyone that they will fight back and they can fight back. And Israel, doesn't have the capacity to actually destroy the regime, the government in Iran. Unfortunately, that's clearly not what they believe. And so what I think they understood

is, you know what, we still want to destroy the government in Iran because that's part of the greater Israel project. But in the future, we'll just censor media. We'll just disguise the fact that we're getting destroyed by the Iranians. And that's what's led to this blockade of information, from Israel. You're absolutely right in that. There's a lot of destruction. There should be a lot of destruction in Tel Aviv and other places because we sort of see the missile barrages of the Iranians, and they're quite impressive. But the Israelis think that if we just hide the fact that we're getting destroyed, then people will think that we're still invincible. So that's a response to the loss of the 12 -Day War. The Israelis are like, we just won't admit we're being defeated. But I mean, right now, Israel does not have the capacity to continue this war for much longer. It needs America to send in ground troops.

And that's the situation we find ourselves in.

I don't know how capable the ground troops would be because they were begging Kurdish terrorist groups to do something for the United States, that it seems that the Kurdish people, I don't know who are living outside of Iran, in Iraqi Kurdistan, they're going to be part of it or not. But we learned yesterday from Khan media, Israeli media, that Azerbaijan is going to join us in this fight. I think they're somehow, they're trying, you've mentioned the false flag operation, but we have false flag news coming out because Azerbaijan knows what's at stake if they enter this conflict. It's not just about Iran. Russia would come in. The whole concept. The whole idea of South Caucasus would be in some sort of, you know, Russia was fighting Georgia for before the war in Ukraine, you know, started, and they know what what's at stake, considering the South Caucasus and the case of Iran. And how do you see the whole concept?

Because on one side, we know that they literally are considering ground invasion of Iran. But how capable are they to go that far?

Right. So. As you point out, the American strategy is to use proxies for a ground invasion, and that's what they did very effectively in Syria and Libya, right, where they financed these rebel groups and then support these rebel groups with air power. And that was very effective, especially in Libya, which really destroyed the government in Libya. But the situation in Iran is actually much more complicated, right? So right now, the Americans are looking at three points. The first two, as you mentioned, are the Kurds and the Azerbaijanis, and the last group are the Balochs, which is in which neighbors Pakistan. OK, so that's the southeast corner of Iran. Azerbaijanis and the Kurds are in the northwest corner of Iran. And the Kurds have a very long history with the Americans. The Kurds have have been trying to achieve national self -determination for the longest time. And their best chance was actually in 1991, because at the aftermath of the Persian Gulf War, at that time, President H.W.

Bush encouraged the Kurds to rebel against Saddam Hussein. And the Kurds did. There was a massive uprising within Iraq, and the Kurds really believed that now was the opportunity to finally build their own nation. But at the end of the day, what happened was that President George H.W. Bush. Betrayed the Kurds and the promises of American air power to support their insurgency never materialized. And what happened was a massive crackdown. Saddam Hussein, I think, used all the it was just a brutal crackdown that killed hundreds of thousands of Kurds. And if you're the Kurds and you remember this, right, why would you ever trust the Americans again? And this. This was not actually the first time it's happened before, and it's happened like like many times afterwards. So the idea that you're going to, like, you know, give money to Kurds and they're going to rush in into Iran on your behalf.

I think that's a fantasy. That's point number one. Point number two is the entire intention of using Kurds is as a cannon fodder. OK, so what you want to do is you want to mask Kurdish insurgents and send them into Iran and what will happen is the Iranian military will be. They will be forced to send in soldiers to counter this attack and these soldiers be massed, right, which makes it perfect for our own environment. But guess who else gets killed in this Arab environment? It's the Kurds as well. So it is these are, you know, this cannon fodder, you know, meant to bait the Iranians into conflict so that they can all be destroyed. The Kurds aren't stupid. They know exactly what's going on. And the reason why they seem as though they're willing to go in is because they can probably rip off a lot of money from the Americans.

And it's really. Right. They can probably get a lot of weapons, a lot of money, a lot of gold and a lot of assurances from the Israelis and the American. The idea that these guys are going to go in and sacrifice their lives so that Israel and America can advance their military objectives is absurd. No one's that stupid. And then you're like Azerbaijan, right? Why the hell would Azerbaijan get into this war, especially because Russia is to the north, right? Why give the Russians and the Iranians the perfect excuse? To split your nation into two, if the president of Azerbaijan is stupid enough to actually enter Iran on with a ground invasion, I guarantee you that Azerbaijan, as a nation, will not last very long. Russia is looking for the perfect excuse to come in this war to create a land bridge between Russia and Iran. So there's no way Azerbaijan comes in this war.

But again, it's good optics, right? The president of Azerbaijan can flex, can huff and puff. The Israelis and Americans will pay him a lot of money. He'll allow, he'll take this money and, you know, give it to all his hangers on, all supporters, all his cyclophones. That makes him look good, OK? But the way these guys are not stupid, they're hustlers. They know exactly how the game works. They know that the Israelis and Americans are desperate for ground forces to advance their military objectives. And they're not going to sacrifice themselves and they're not going to sacrifice their lives. They're not stupid. But in the process, they can rip off as much money as possible from the Israelis and Americans. And that's exactly what's going to happen.

John, one of the main questions in the mind of the Arab states today is what is the benefit of American bases in our countries? And they're asking themselves, many people in these countries, wealthy people are asking, what is the outcome of these bases if they're not defending us, if they're not, if we are going to, you know, we are attacked because of these bases. So how do you see the Middle East, the outcome of this conflict? This war and the influence that it already has on these Arab states?

Well, I mean, like, listen, for the longest time, these GCC countries had a devil's bargain, right? So the devil's bargain is this. You have these corrupt regimes supported by American military. The American military was not in these nations to protect the nation. It was to protect the royal family to make sure the royal family obeyed orders coming from Washington, D.C. These GCC nations are really the linchpin of the American empire, where they sell petrodollars and then recycle these petrodollars into the American financial system. The AI bubble right now in the United States, it's completely financed by the GCC nations, right? The entire American economy now depends on the building of data centers, which are not very profitable, which are very bad for the environment. And so the GCC nations aren't able to finance the building of these data centers. The entire Ponzi scheme, the entire financial pyramid. The entire Ponzi scheme, the entire financial pyramid.

This mirage of AI economy collapses. These ruling families were corrupt. They're arrogant. They toil and they use these petrodollars to bribe these citizens, as well. So if you're a citizen there, you get free health care, free education, free housing, a free job you have nothing to worry about. And then you import workers from Russia into the country. india from bangladesh from the philippines wherever to do the real work you hire expatriates from europe from england to be the middle managers and so they had a very nice deal for the longest time and now what they're recognizing is oops our time is up uh this uh devil's bargain is not gonna last very very longer listen listen i mean like like i don't want to um be too rude but i don't think there's a future for any of these nations after this war how do you predict this war

you know going on and on do you think do you see a long war happening between the iran and the united states which you know long were like what we were because when the war in ukraine started we thought that it could be a short war because you look at what russia did in the eastern part of ukraine they didn't go that far they they literally captured the eastern part of ukraine mostly russians and they're trying to protect the russian ethnicities and you know those people who are even we have some other people russian ethnic russians in the in kiev for example they're trying to do their best to protect these as well but when it comes to iran it has nothing to do with all of those concepts you know the united states merely is attacking iran because of its resources because iran is a independent nation that's why they're they're attacking iran and

i don't know how much of what they have in their mind is achievable right now with the current situation of the conflict because donald trump said that i want to choose i i am yesterday he said to based on axis he said to the arab states i'm not looking after regime change um i want to choose the next supreme leader of iran you know this has a huge history for iranians because the shah was replaced was it was a coup against the father of the shah of iran then he was put in the place of his father because of the coup british coup and then we had the democratically elected prime minister mossad in iran which was you know there was a coup against him in 1953 to put shah in charge again you know they're they're trying to do achieve something that they have lost it long before and they're trying to reestablish the

mindset i'm talking it's not the reality but the mindset in washington is the same as it was in during those days with the british cia intelligence trying to make a coup d 'etat against the government and putting some other people in the place of them without changing that much the whole system

um okay i will say this whatever you believe about what is happening whatever you believe will happen will be completely wrong whatever happened in the past will not apply to what's going to happen right now this is a unique war this is something that um we cannot use history the lens of history to understand okay um you go back to the russia ukraine war i still don't understand why this war is still going on russia won this war about two years ago ukraine the ukrainians have lost about a million uh funny age men now they are dragging elderly men kidnapping them and putting them on the battlefield a third of the country has already fled uh ukraine i don't understand why this war is still going on so from a geopolitical perspective from a historical perspective um from a military perspective what's going on in ukraine doesn't really make any sense to me why hasn't

ukraine just surrendered and negotiated terms all right putin doesn't even want all of ukraine he just wants what is traditionally russian okay which which includes the four oblasts up to the the dnipro river and then he might want odessa as well but you know who cares you've lost the war uh just give it to him and let's have peace right why are you still fighting in fact the europeans are saying you know like we're going to draft you know we're going to draft you know we're going to draft man like germany um romania uh they're they're they're like passing laws to draft men into military service i think that the um europeans are planning by 2029 to enter the war fully in ukraine and you're like well this makes no sense at all why are you doing this what's the point the war is lost why are you sending young men to die in ukraine

and no one even knows why why they want to do this as well remember russia has nuclear weapons you don't you don't want to poke their bear too much because then you might end up destroying the world so the traditional understanding of how wars are fought why they're fought i don't think you can use them anymore okay i think we're living in a very special time and the framework that i think you have to use is eschatological religious they're doing this not to wars to control resources to obtain oil to control trade routes they're doing this for religious purposes to achieve a certain world that they believe um will reflect the divine will of god so um there's a news item where a commander uh told his troops this american commander and they and he told his american troops to not be afraid of this war in iran and the reason why is that this

war will bring about the second coming of jesus trump is divinely ordained okay god picked him in order to start a war in the middle east that will lead to a chain of events that will bring about the second coming of jesus i know this sounds crazy okay but keep this in mind because what's gonna happen in the next few months or next few years will even be more crazy all right so one thing that's really worrying is the al -aqsa mosque the alexic mosque is the third holiest site in the muslim world only mecca medina are even more holy the isaac moss is where muhammad ascended to heaven and um there's talk that there'll be a false flag where the alexic moss is destroyed and why would it be destroyed well because the alexic mosque is the second holiest site of the second temple or solomon's temple okay that is considered the holiest site

in um the jewish tradition it is where god lives right so if you want god to return to the world you need to build them a nice home that is solomon's temple the third temple they call it and so they need to destroy the alexic mosque if you destroy the alexic mars this will ignite a religious war between between the muslims and the jews every muslim will be morally obligated to seek jihad against israel if you were to destroy the alexic mosque so why would they do that okay i'm not saying they're going to do that but i'm saying like things are going to happen things may happen that make absolutely no sense and what what what i'm telling people okay is first of all get in the mindset wherever you believe about the world it's going to go it's going to be thrown out front the window okay because if you just use conventional

logic to analyze this one iran it makes no sense even today a week after the war started even though a lot of damage has been done even though a lot of people have been killed no one knows why this war is being fought trump and his people have not articulated any real reason why they seek to destroy iran the most we have is at first trump is like okay we want to get rid of nuclear weapons we want to get rid of possibility that um iran engaged in new and uh uranium enrichment but the oh omani's who were mediating these talks between the americans and the um iranians have already told us that the iranians had already agreed to zero actually zero iranian enrichment which is something that they were you know adamant about for the longest time right they said we are willing to forever forego our uranium enrichment program before they insisted that

we are empowered to use uh iranian arrangement for civilian civilian purposes and they're like okay fine we'll give that up as well okay but not only that but they relate to omani is that hey not only are we willing to give up our uranium enrichment program but we're also willing to negotiate with about our proxies as well as the shia militias hamas and the houthis but we're also in the negotiate our ballistic missiles program the iranians were willing to give americans everything that they demanded which were impossible demands to begin with and americans still attack so please explain to me that okay that's point number one then point number two is trump then said that okay um where we we attacked because well israel was gonna attack first and we know the iranians will respond by attacking us so we have to preempt the iranian recruitment program and we have to ask the iranians by

attacking them first okay but then you're like why didn't you just tell them there is not to attack them right you are the superpower you're the ones financing israel you're the ones giving israel all the weapons it has just say you know if you attack iran you're on your own all right and and so and now what they're saying is well you know it's because we're controlled by israel are you really telling me the nation of like nine million people in a desert is able to control an empire of like 330 million people that's completely nonsense okay so all the reasons that they're giving us make no sense it's all lies it's all deception okay what they really want to do is destroy the world that's what they really want to do they want to show the world because that will force jesus to return that is part of christian zionist eschatology and again you

don't have to believe me okay but like ask yourself this first of all like why is this war continuing okay number one why is this war continuing okay number two is why is trump asking for unconditional surrender why is he refusing to negotiate at all number three is why would america want to send in ground troops like what's the purpose of that i mean like aren't you destroying iran from the air already why do you have to send in ground troops man number three okay number and then and then what you'll see later on are is um the must like no mistake okay and what they want to do is create this war between arabs and the persians So these people are insane, they're crazy, this entire thing is crazy. Take whatever you believe about the world and throw it out the window, okay? Just do that. And then you might understand what's going on.

You might understand what's going on. But if you insist on reading history and say, well, you know, in 1979, the shot was overthrown and the Americans are pissed about that, you're not going to get anywhere here.

John, do you see the war getting nuclear?

Yeah, that's a really good question, okay? All right. So already discussing the possibility of nuclear weapons, and the reason why is that a lot of Iran's ballistic missile capabilities are buried deep underground. So you cannot actually destroy these facilities using conventional weapons, even the mother of all bombs, right, like a huge bomb, bunker busters to get you nowhere, okay? So a nuclear... A tactical nuclear nuke would not destroy the underground facilities, but it would basically seal the entrances. It would make it unlivable. It would cause so much radiation, okay? So if you want to win the war conventionally, then you might have to use tactical nuclear weapons, especially if the ground invasion goes wrong, okay? But there's certain problems with the use of tactical nuclear weapons, okay? The first thing is this. Sergei Lavrov. The Russian former minister. Sergei Lavrov. The former minister has already said that Russia will ensure the success and the survival of the Iranians, all right?

So already there's talk among the Russians that they will support Iran fully at some point, okay? Already we know that Russia is providing targeting information and intelligence to Iranians, and that's what NATO did during the Ukraine war. So basically Russia is just doing what NATO did in Ukraine. It's like payback. Right? And eventually, I think what's going to happen is this. If there is an actual ground invasion, and if there's actually a threat that Israel or the United States will use tactical nuclear weapons because the war is going wrong, I think what's going to happen, okay? And it's just a guess, okay? But I think the possibility is that Putin announces that Iran is under the Russian nuclear umbrella. An attack. A tactical nuclear strike against Iran will be considered a nuclear attack. It will be considered a tactical nuclear strike against Russia. And Russia will respond with tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine and against Europe, okay?

That is a real possibility. So that's one point. Another point is this. We assume the Israelis and Americans want to win this war militarily. But let's just think. Let's ask yourself. Let's just say that they want this war because it's for eschatology. For logical reasons. Okay. If you actually look at the eschatology of the Jews and the Christian Zionists, if you look at all eschatologies, America should not be in the Middle East. It is against the will of God that America is in the Middle East. Therefore America needs to leave the Middle East, right? For the eschatology to take place. The eschatology requires for Israel to fight the world. America is not involved. So how do you get the American empire, which supports the GCC nations, out of the Middle East? CENTCOM is this vast empire unto itself that has dozens of military bases throughout the Middle East.

It has like 50,000 soldiers, right? Well you get America out of the Middle East if America loses this war, right? So everyone has an assumption that America is entering this war to win. But. But. But. It is also possible America enters this war in order to lose. In which case, everything is according to plan. Alright? So again, your logic, your understanding of history, your common sense, your belief in the world, out the door. Okay. America is not in this war to win. America is in this war to lose.

And, Jon, I think with the case of oil, with the case of war, greater Israel, it always always comes to a concept of how BRICS would react. What is the future for BRICS? What is the future? Because in my opinion, the South Caucasus is the heart of Eurasia. And how do you see BRICS? Because India, somehow you see India is so silent right now. They were they they're dependent on Russia. And we have, I would say somehow a some sort of perfect combination of energy and production within BRICS, you know, with Iran, Russia and China. They perfect some sort of partnership between these players. And how do you see the whole game in influencing the concept of BRICS?

The BRICS doesn't matter. I've never thought about BRICS. I've never researched BRICS. If someone talks about BRICS, I clue out. I think about something else. OK, I don't I don't care about BRICS. Why? Because today, OK, we live in the law of the jungle. Who is strong wins. Who is weak dies. Who is strong are those who are willing to fight for what they believe in. If you are willing to commit military power, you matter in this world. If you are not willing to commit military power, you don't matter in the world. It's that simple. Forget BRICS. It doesn't matter. Forget this like Shanghai gold corridor. Forget about this unit currency. Forget about trade. None of this matters anymore. We are now in a new world where it's a law of the jungle. Might makes right. If you're willing to die for what you believe in, if you're willing to send troops to fight for what you believe in, then you matter.

If you are not willing to do so, then you'll just sit back and be destroyed one by one. It's that simple.

Yeah. John. The other situation with the case of the Middle East would be how Iran as a country may decide about its future, because you know what has happened in Russia when the war before the war in Ukraine started. They were people who were thinking that they can make a partnership with the West, with the United States. And we have two sort of forces in both Russia and Iran. Two forces who are mostly neoliberals or close to liberals in the United States. They feel that the United States may be a we may trust the United States. We may negotiate with them. But as the war in Russia, you know, in Ukraine and as the war in we are witnessing the war in Iran and these conflict is, you know, this is a huge conflict in the Middle East. And how do you see the politicians, the decision makers in these countries deciding about their future?

Where is the future in their mind?

First of all, we assume nation states are the main organizing unit of the world. We also assume that the leaders of these nation states actually matter. And I think both of these assumptions are problematic. Maybe the people who control Russia are the ones who control China, the United States, Israel are the same people. I mean, there is that possibility. All right. So I mean, I mean, you know, again, I think you have to given this war in Iran, you have to clear your mind. OK, you have to you have to examine your own assumptions about the world, that that this is a war of resources between Iran and United States. I don't think it is. And again, time will tell. OK, I don't want to say too much because people will think I'm insane, but I don't think that nation states are really the powers that people think they are. There are other there are other organizations, there are other entities that are above nation states.

We saw that in the Epstein files. Right. Everyone assumed that Jeffrey Epstein was this Mossad agent or CIA. Who was blackmailing these powerful Americans in order to garner support for Israel. But there are certain things that happen when we actually read the Epstein files. That's very confusing. First of all, why are Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman, why are they going to Jeffrey Epstein begging for money? Bill Gates was the richest man in the world. Reid Hoffman is a billionaire. Why are they going to Jeffrey Epstein? Why are they going to Jeffrey Epstein and begging for money? Right. And then you have Elon Musk, who's, you know, very wealthy and like he wants to party with Jeffrey Epstein. You know, he's sort of almost like, you know, bothering Jeffrey Epstein. OK, man, I hear you for these wonderful parties. Can I join you? And then they use these code words like, you know, like pizza and soda.

All right. So, again, the Epstein files, if you just look at the Epstein files, the way you think power works, the way you think. That the world is run is probably wrong. It probably is.

You mentioned that Ukraine was lost. The war in Ukraine was lost two years ago. How do you predict the war in Iran? How do you see the escalation and what would be the meaning? Because one win or the other lose or how? What is the outcome in your opinion?

Well, I mean, the outcome is very simple. The outcome has been preordained. The outcome is to kill as many people as possible. To destroy the entire global economy, to destroy Iran, to force the United States out of the Middle East, to destroy the Gulf nation states, to suck Turkey into the war, to lead to the creation of the greater Israel project and eventually Pax Judaica. And then eventually to create the conditions for another world war, another world war, for the war of God and Magog, where Russia and Iran attack Israel together, which will usher in the end of the world. That's that's a script. That's a plan they have in mind. So it's all been preordained. It's all been scripted out. And that's exactly what's what's what's what's going to happen. And it's only a question of like timeframe, like how long how long will this thing take? But they will send in ground troops into Iran.

It will be a disaster. And Iran will be shattered. America will be forced out. They will be forced out of the Middle East and Israel will become the only standing power in the Middle East. That's what's going to happen.

Yeah. Do you feel that the leadership in the Middle East, in the West Asia would be mostly influenced by Israelis? Because how you mentioned a nation of nine million people and we know that they haven't the capabilities, you know, the numbers to occupy all of these. Land and how they're going to manage that, because it's not just about Iran, Turkey. You mean that they're going to, you know, start with Iran that they go after Turkey. But the whole region physically, Israel is not capable of doing this.

Yes, they are. Yes, they are. Because, again, you have these assumptions about how the world works and how power is controlled. You need population. No, you don't. Nowadays with AI, with technology, what you can do is this. You can import labor. I'm saying after this war is over, OK, when millions are dead and the Gulf states are destroyed. I mean, you have a lot of loss of life in Iran as well and in Israel as well. And Israel is trying to be the global empire. So it needs labor, as you point out. Right. So what do you do? Well, you import the labor from India, from China and from the Philippines. And what do you do? You microchip them. Right. So that you can surveil them. You can control their emotions. You feed them drugs. They're your slaves. You have like millions and millions, 100 million of these people who will be the humanoid robots of your empire.

And it can all be done with current technology. You don't have to actually build new technology to do this, but but you will need an AI surveillance state. And that's why Palantir is so valuable. Right. Because the idea is, you know, you're doing this for these companies. These AI companies are now being incubated in the United States, Palantir specifically, to come over to Pax Judaica, to come over to Israel and run the surveillance state. That is the plan.

Yeah. And do you think that the war is getting to the East Asia, is going to get to Japan, South Korea? How do you see it? Because it's not if we think of the big plan would be, you know, Russia, Iran. Then go Taiwan, maybe China, maybe Japan and Korea bring them to the conflict with Taiwan. Taiwan is somehow different is in little island that can be somehow controlled. And it's not like Ukraine that you can feed the Ukrainians with the weapons on the ground. How do you see the big picture of the world?

Look, if you talk about Southeast Asia, all right, again, your assumptions about the world are just wrong. It's a lot of jungle now, whoever's willing to fight, who's ever willing to die will win.

And yeah, it seems that we've lost Jiang here. And let me see. Yeah, you're back. You're back.

Look. Yeah. Look, you have to see the world not through economic, economic lens, okay? The economy doesn't matter. It's all about the willingness of your population to fight wars and to die for what they believe in. Okay. There are exactly four nations in Southeast Asia that have a history of dying for what they believe in. Okay. This include Japan, South Korea, North Korea, and Vietnam. The war for Southeast Asia will be between these four nations.

Wow. And you see Iran and Russia surviving the current conflict?

So Russia is clearly a wing of war in Ukraine. And Russia will become a dominant power in Europe, which will force the rise of Germany as a response to Russia. So what's going to happen is that the American empire is going to finance and support the rise of Germany as a counterweight to Russia. But I think that even though they may fight some wars, I think in the long term what will happen. What will happen is a grand alliance between Germany and Russia, and that is the new power in the world. I think a grand alliance between Germany and Russia will be unstoppable. In Japan, sorry, in Southeast Asia, the new power will be Japan. Okay. So these are the three major powers in the world. A German Russian alliance, Israel in the Middle East, and then Japan in East Asia. America will emerge in the Western hemisphere because they have no competitors. But we can expect that America will have a lot of issues.

It will have civil wars. It will have to defend its territories in South America, in the Caribbean, against guerrilla insurgents who want their sovereignty. But the world is heading towards a new place, a brave new world. We've never seen it before. There'll be complete chaos. And quite honestly, the goal is to kill as many people as possible. Because the world can't sustain itself. There's only 8 billion people. So you're trying to create as many conflicts as possible to reduce the population so that the population will be easier to govern, to create compliance. So again, I don't want to say too much because I don't want to come across as conspiratorial or deranged or insane. But if you want to survive what's coming, you have to mentally prepare yourself. You have to tell yourself that maybe what I believe of the world is wrong. Maybe Brexit doesn't matter.

Maybe China doesn't matter. Maybe it's all just a delusion. Maybe it's all these lies that the media has been feeding us in order to make us not understand what's really going on. What's really going on is not a financial war. What's really going on is not a material war, a military war. What's going on is a spiritual war. That's what's really going on.

But the United States is not that capable, John, after all. The United States has been fighting all of these wars, and they were defeated in all of them. And just remember, these are the facts. They've been in Afghanistan for 20 years. They got it from Taliban, and they delivered it to Taliban before leaving Afghanistan. Afghanistan today is not in the hands of the United States anymore. Iraq is the same. Just look at what is happening right now in Iraq. They're not, you know, all of the bases, the U.S. military bases in Iraq, they were destroyed with all the weapons they had there. And so how much power do they have to pursue that agenda? I don't see that happening because of the United States is not, you know, getting stronger. They're not getting stronger in the West Asia.

Look. Your understanding of the world is limited, okay? You think the United States actually matters. You think the United States went into Afghanistan, went to Iraq to win the war, to control these places. But Julian Assange, he said something really important. What he told us is this. The point is not to have successful wars. The point is to have never -ending wars so that a military -industrial complex, this transnational security system can steal from the American taxpayer, okay? So what you need to understand is this. America, these nation -states, it's just a host. What matters is the parasite. What matters are the secret societies, these transnational capital groups. That's who controls the world, okay? And these are the ones behind everything, right? China and Israel and the United States. And they choreograph these wars in order to extract as much wealth as possible from their nation -state host before the nation -state comes. That's what's happening.

These parasites intend for America to lose its war on Iran so that they can collapse the entire American economy and drive millions and millions into abject poverty where they will own nothing and be happy. That's the game plan here. You have $4,200 in debt. The only way that you can get rid of this debt is by destroying the American economy, by collapsing the American economy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You mean that the United States right now, the agenda would be to be defeated in Iran or they're going to be, they're meant to be winning in Iran?

What I mean to say is that the United States is not in control of the United States. That's what I mean to say. 80 % of American people do not want this war in Iran, okay? 80 % of the American people are like, we don't want this war. Most people are against this war. Even though traditionally, once in a while, the United States is in control of the United States. Even when the U.S. nation enters a war, the public is very supportive of the military. But the American people are not supportive at all of this war. Then let's talk about ground troops. And the American public, again, do not want ground troops in Iran. Guess what? It doesn't matter. No one cares. No one cares what the American public wants. About 99 % of Americans say, we don't want this war. They're still going to fight this war. Right? Clearly, America is not a democracy, all right?

So, and then it's like, well, okay, in like November, we'll have these midterms and the Democrats will come in and stop this war. Well, let me tell you this, even though the Democrats were to win the midterms, and that is also suspicious and unlikely given what's happening, but even though the Democrats were to win the midterms, when they come to office, Congress would still allow Trump to fight this war, okay? The Democrats have done absolutely nothing at all to stop Trump from fighting this war. Congress has a constitutional obligation to declare war, and they should have organized a vote in order to stop a president from declaring war. It's something called the War Powers Act, okay? It should have been scheduled for the first day of the election, before the war started. And what they did was this, they scheduled the War Powers Act debate to be on Tuesday, like four days before the actual attack, okay?

So they knew the attack was coming, and they scheduled it at a particular time when it would not be relevant, okay? So Congress is not stopping the president, Congress is enabling the president. Ground troops, all right, ground troops, not one powerful, Democrat has said, I am against ground troops. What you have is people like Chuck Schumer saying, oh, you know, I've looked at the evidence, I've been briefed by Marco Rubio, and yeah, the situation is worse than we think, you know? So it's all just a deception. It's all just an illusion. It's already been decided what's gonna happen. It's all a script, okay? And the idea that actually, you know, the American people can vote their way out of this, no, they can't, you know? It's like 99 % of humanity, like even more than 99%, like, you know, maybe there's only a few thousand people actually in charge of anything, okay?

But they're able to do whatever they want.

But it's all about the United States, and many people, you know, in Iran, they say it doesn't matter what they're thinking of. If they wanna invade Iran, come here, and we are waiting for them. That's why they're prepared for the ground invasion. They really feel that they can defeat the United States on the ground as well. And that's the calculation. What you've just mentioned is all about the United States and how they feel. We know the feeling and the agenda of the United States is not the end game, is not the outcome. The outcome is the combination of both forces, as we saw in Ukraine. And Iran, you have a calculation of two alternatives, the United States and Iran, the two agendas of fighting each other. And it doesn't matter if they want to invade, but if they want to invade Iran, they're gonna respond. They're gonna destroy those people who are gonna invade Iran.

Look, look. I mean, I've said this many, many times. Okay? Look, the United States will invade Iran, and the Iranians will destroy the American invasion force. But what I'm saying is, that's what they want you to focus on. That's what they want you to think about. And I'm saying none of this actually matters. What really matters is for us to understand who is actually behind the curtain pulling these strings, okay? Someone is doing this. It's probably not Trump because, I mean, it's not Trump who's doing this. It's other people who are doing this. So first question is, like, who is actually doing all this? And how are they actually able to pull this off? And this is actually something that we need to truly understand. That's the war we need to fight. This is not a war about between the United States and Iran. That doesn't really matter in the end. It's really about a war of self -knowledge.

Do each of us have the will, have the courage to seek the truth out, even though the truth can shatter our very sense of reality, okay? So let me end with this note, okay? Let me tell you what we need to do if we are to win this war. Individually, okay? Plato's Allegory of the Cave. Plato's Allegory of the Cave is this. Everyone is chained to the floor, all right? You're shackled to the floor. You can't move. Even your head, you can't move because of a chain. You can only steer ahead. You're standing on an empty wall, okay? Behind you is a fire. Behind you is this fire. And then there are certain people, the elite, the true power in the world, they put up these puppets that the fire then reflects as shadows onto the wall. And then what we do is we look at the wall and we create our own reality, okay?

We create a language. We make up stories about these shadows on the wall. And that's the reality that we live in today where we think it's all real, but it's all an illusion, okay? And the people behind the fire pulling the strings, they're the real power. The United States, Russia, China, this war between the United States and Iran, that's all an illusion meant to distract you from trying to turn over and figure out what's really going on behind the scenes, okay? And that is a challenge for us as human beings to not be lied to. We have to look into this conflict before us to think that, okay, it really matters who wins, the United States or Iran. It doesn't really matter. It really matters if Israel becomes an empire or not. It doesn't really matter. It matters if Brexit is successful or not. It doesn't matter. None of this matters.

What matters is our understanding of the world. What matters is our desire, our courage to seek the truth no matter how painful the truth is. That's what matters.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much, Gian, for being with us today. It was a great pleasure to talk with you. These questions, somehow you, many people would say, and this question, that question, but we have to explore. We have to find your understanding of the world, which was amazing to me to understand it and I think which is hopeful, helpful for many people who are watching us. It was a great pleasure to have you on the show. Gian.

Okay. Thanks for inviting me, Nima. Okay.

Yeah.

Take care. Bye -bye.

Bye -bye. Bye -bye.