--- title: "Jiang Xueqin: Iran War Trap Ends U.S. Empire, New World Order is Here transcript" description: "Source-synced transcript archive for Jiang Xueqin: Iran War Trap Ends U.S. Empire, New World Order is Here." source_title: "Jiang Xueqin: Iran War Trap Ends U.S. Empire, New World Order is Here" published_at: "2026-03-13" source_class: "interview" public_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/" markdown_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript.md" text_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript.txt" source_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME" data_url: "https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme.json" --- # Jiang Xueqin: Iran War Trap Ends U.S. Empire, New World Order is Here transcript - Source: [Jiang Xueqin: Iran War Trap Ends U.S. Empire, New World Order is Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME) - Published: 2026-03-13, day precision - Human transcript page: [/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/) - Interview page: [/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/) - Transcript Markdown: [/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript.md](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript.md) - Transcript text: [/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript.txt](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript.txt) - Interview JSON: [/data/lens/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme.json](https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme.json) ## Transcript ### 0:00 seg-0001 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0001` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0001](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0001) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=0s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=0s) Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the show. It's your host, Danny Haifang. As you can see, I am joined by Professor Jiang Sui -Ching of Predictive History. Professor Jiang, thanks so much for joining me today. ### 0:11 seg-0002 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0002` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0002](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0002) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=11s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=11s) Thanks for having me, Danny. ### 0:13 seg-0003 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0003` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0003](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0003) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=13s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=13s) Yeah, well, let's get right to it then, Professor Jiang. So I wanted to ask you just right out the gate. In prior shows and in prior programs, you have said that the U.S. Empire will lose the war with Iran even before the war began. Well, now we are over 13 days in this. And I want to ask you if you believe we are witnessing your predictions in real time. And what have you made of Trump's words today that Iran is actually on the verge of surrender, despite the fact that you see, and I can pull up some of those images, we see Iranian officials, the Iranian president, the Iranian foreign minister. They're all out on the streets on Quds Day without a security detail. Talk about your opinion. What are your predictions of how this war will go and whether we are seeing them bear fruit now? ### 1:04 seg-0004 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0004` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0004](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0004) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=64s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=64s) Right. So what's interesting about this war is that the Americans and Iranians have different strategies and therefore they live in different political realities. So for the Americans and the Israelis, they believe that what they can do is decapitate the regime, the government, and they've done that by killing the Al -Atura Khamenei and then put on this pressure. They continue to play tough games with the sanctions they are wearing on the military by bombarding the air defenses and military infrastructure. And then exert tremendous pressure on the civilian population by embargoing the economy and then by embedding themselves and promoting certain dissident groups, whether they be religious, political, or ethnic groups in Iran. They hope to create a color revolution to eventually overthrow the government. Basically, what they're trying to do is provoke a civil war in Iran. And so that's the American strategy. And from their perspective, it does seem as though things are going to ### 2:10 seg-0005 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0005` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0005](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0005) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=130s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=130s) plan because, again, they have decapitated the Supreme Leader in the first day, and they've hit civil infrastructure. So they destroy these oil deposits in Tehran. So you might have seen this video footage of black clouds and black air in Tehran these past few days. And they are embargaining the Iranian economy. So they do believe it's going to plan. There's talk of them arming insurgents. From the Iranian perspective, their strategy is very different. They understand that the very basis of the American empire is actually the global economy. So if you put enough pressure on the Iranian economy, it's going to be very difficult. But if you put enough pressure on the global economy, you will eventually force America to call UNCO. So what we're seeing the first few days are sustained attacks on American military installations throughout the GCC. The American Fifth Fleet is based in Buran. You are seeing sustained attacks on Israel. And in the first few days, actually, the main purpose of Iran was to degrade. ### 3:25 seg-0006 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0006` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0006](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0006) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=205s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=205s) The air defense of both the Israelis and Americans, basically to blind them. And from reporting, it seems as though the Iranians have achieved this objective, meaning that most of the interceptor inventory is gone, meaning these Patriot missile defenses are no longer relevant in this fight. Also what's much more relevant is that it seems that much of the radar system is now depleted. Meaning that basically. With. $10,000 Shihade drones, Iran can cause tremendous damage to the GCC and Israel. We're already seeing that in Dubai, where airports, where banks, where data centers are being attacked. Now one major advantage that Iran has that the Americans don't have is that the Iranians are able to calibrate their attacks. And what I mean by that. Is the Americans just go and do shock and awe, they try to blow as many things as possible. Whereas the Iranians, they actually try to figure out what pressure points are in the GCC. ### 4:36 seg-0007 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0007` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0007](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0007) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=276s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=276s) So what they're trying to do is they're trying to split off the GCC from the American empire. They're trying to cause instability within these different kingdoms. Whether it be Bahrain or UAE or Saudi Arabia, they're basically trying to provoke a civil uprising. Against these Gulf monarchies. And they're trying to basically splinter the alliance. Because by controlling the Strait of Hormuz, they can say to the GCC that if you play ball, we'll let your ships through. And that's very appealing to the GCC because the reality is that they depend on the Strait of Hormuz, not just for oil exports, but they also depend on the Strait of Hormuz for food imports as well. Also, we have to remember that. We have to remember. If Iran wants to destroy the entire GCC, it could do so. So Trump has threatened the civil infrastructure of Iran. ### 5:38 seg-0008 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0008` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0008](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0008) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=338s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=338s) Basically destroy the desalination plants, the electric grid. Iran's response was that if you do so, then we will destroy the desalination plants of the GCC and destroy the oil refineries of them as well. Basically causing their economies to collapse. Because remember. The GCC. The GCC uses the desalination plants for 60 % of its fresh water supply. Meaning it doesn't have organic fresh water supply. So Iran has far more advantages than the United States in this war. So for these reasons, I actually think that from a military perspective, Iran has more advantages. From a political perspective, it's night and day. In that. that this war is extremely unpopular in the United States. About 3 quarters of Americans did not support a strike against Iran. And now that the war has started, you have more and more Americans confused as to the strategy and purpose of this war. And Trump himself has failed to articulate a clear strategy. ### 6:45 seg-0009 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0009` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0009](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0009) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=405s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=405s) And it seems as though the rationale behind this war changed every day. So maybe in the beginning, it was about protests. And then it became nuclear weapons. And now it's because Israel was going to attack first. And so Iran was going to retaliate against both the United States and Israel. And therefore, the United States had to preempt Israel's preemptive strike. So from a political perspective, right now in America, it's very much a divided nation. Whereas in Iran, it's complete opposite, where the death of the Ayatollah, and also on the first day, remember, an American Tomahawk missile struck a girls' school in the south of Iran that killed about 170 schoolgirls. These are primary schoolgirls. And most of them are actually the children of Islamic Revolutionary Guard members. And so what that has done is galvanize the nation to resist and to defend their sovereignty. Because if you're Iranian, you've seen what the Americans have done across the border in Iraq. ### 7:50 seg-0010 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0010` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0010](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0010) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=470s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=470s) You've seen what they've done. You've seen what they've done in Libya and Syria. This is a war of destruction. The Americans are hoping to break Iran into ethnic enclaves, what we call balkanization and divide and rule Iran and basically destroy Persian civilization. And many Iranians will not tolerate this. So for the Iranians, this is a fight to the death. For Americans, it's a war of choice. So from a military and political perspective, perspective Iran has the advantage and last of course is economic where the American economy is very dependent on the GCC in fact you could argue that the GCC is essentially the linchpin of the American empire because what they do is they sell the oil um uh in petrodollars and then they recycle these petrodollars back into the American stock market and of course the Gulf Marconis do that because American provides military production ### 8:49 seg-0011 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0011` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0011](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0011) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=529s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=529s) but you know the first day uh when this war began what what we know is that these bases these American military bases were abandoned and in fact uh the soldiers went changing the civilian clothes and went to hide in hotels and that's why Iran was striking these hotels and so these Gulf monarchies now are forced to uh reconsider their vassalage to the American empire so what we're seeing I think is very much the collapse of ### 9:21 seg-0012 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0012` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0012](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0012) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=561s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=561s) the American empire yeah I mean that seems to be exactly what what is happening Professor Jung but then at you know what do you believe is uh behind the Trump administration in the United States Empire then going all in and continuing and saying they're going to continue on with this war until further notice it seems like this is a trap of their own making but we know that there are diff very you know there's lots of interests in war we know the U.S Empire is built on war and we're supposed to make certain people rich we're supposed to ensure that an empire expands that we can go on and on and on but what exactly but this seems to be not happening these kind of things the opposite is so what then do you say given that the American empire as you're saying is uh collapsing from this war why then uh digging this ### 10:16 seg-0013 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0013` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0013](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0013) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=616s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=616s) uh the whole of this trap deeper and deeper right so um I think the best explanation ### 10:22 seg-0014 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0014` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0014](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0014) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=622s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=622s) for why this war started and why this war is progressing the way it is is a lethal toxic combination of both hubris and desperation so let me take some time to explain what I mean okay so the very premise of the American empire is something called the McKender Heartland thesis and this was actually um something that the British developed okay so the British was an island it didn't it had a very low population and for it to control the world it had to control the seas so it built the world's greatest Navy um and it made sure that this Navy was the most dominant in the world and in fact we designed the Navy to be able to defeat the next two great naval powers combined and um and so the Navy a Navy is useless against a land power and so the great fear of the British uh imperialist is that a great power ### 11:27 seg-0015 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0015` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0015](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0015) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=687s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=687s) where would emerge in the Eurasian Heartland okay so basically Europe and Asia and at this time there were several candidates that have emerged and we're talking about the 18th century by the way that could have emerged to unify the Eurasian Heartland and create this continental uh um trade system that would negate British naval power okay so the candidates were uh the Ottoman Empire uh the French the Germans and the Russians these four great powers um and that's what led ultimately to the napolitic Wars okay seven Wars fought between France and uh the British and their allies and you can actually see the no plate Wars as ultimately an economic trade war in that Napoleon wanted to create a continental trade system um and the British had and the British uh refused to let him do so because that would mean the collapse of the British economy um and so the British basically had an infinite ### 12:28 seg-0016 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0016` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0016](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0016) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=748s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=748s) printing machine called the Bank of England they financed uh Europe to fight against Napoleon seven times and they lost six times but ultimately they won and they hadn't they had no choice because the British economy like the American economy is essentially a Ponzi scheme and so and so they were advancing until they beat Napoleon after Napoleon was defeated uh Britain um became the global hegemon and then it focused its attention on trying to divide and conquer Germany and Russia so in the 19th century uh Britain engaged in something called the great game with Russia where they fought for Central Asia because again Britain cannot afford for Russia to unify uh the Heartland because if Russia did that it could build a railroad system um trade um could exist it could just happen within the continent and then extend to Africa as well as the Middle East um and then of course in the 20th century ### 13:26 seg-0017 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0017` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0017](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0017) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=806s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=806s) uh Britain and Germany fought two great wars and America came in to save Britain in the end and prevent Germany from unifying the Heartland okay so that's the main idea uh behind the American Empire and it's still true today and um after the Soviet Union fell uh America had this unipolar moment where it could extend its Empire through throughout the world and this Empire came in actually in 2022 when Putin invaded Ukraine and with um Russia essentially witness war in Ukraine there's a great fear that Russia you read and China would come together as partners uh in bricks and then they could unify the Heartland economically and then extend to Europe uh Middle East and um Africa basically breaks plus and then they could just dump the US dollar and right now the United States is sitting on 40 trillion dollars in debt and if it's a Ponzi scheme so if other nations stop buying ### 14:31 seg-0018 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0018` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0018](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0018) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=871s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=871s) US dollars then uh America will be left holding the bag um and then the bomb would explode in their face the American economy would collapse and you would see a revolution on the streets in America so in other words America didn't even have a choice but to prevent Iran Russia and China from forming a Heartland Alliance now the problem with an empire is that once you become desperate you make silly decisions and the reason why is hubris okay uh the belief that you are invincible and America developed hubris primarily because for the past 20 years America could do whatever wanted in the Middle East 2003 it took America exactly two weeks to steam steamroll over um Iraq and um they did it so with very little casualties and they did so with uh massive political support in the United States and so America just believed it was invincible and this sense of inevitability and invincibility ### 15:34 seg-0019 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0019` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0019](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0019) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=934s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=934s) um cemented itself throughout the Middle East uh because America um even though it's because of having destruction it was still triumphant in Libya in Syria uh throughout the Middle East basically and so from their perspective what's the difference between you know Iraq and Iran right same name just one other difference and so that's the idea of hubris and this hubris um basically got um basically blinded Donald Trump with arrogance um in Venezuela because remember back in on in January January 3rd that'll force swept into um Iraq uh Caracas and basically kidnapped Maduro well and there was no American casualty it was a miracle of the American military um it was almost like as though God wielded um and so that made Trump extremely arrogant and that probably convinced him that he could do anything he wanted because he had the most powerful military in the the world and so um um so he basically ordered ### 16:40 seg-0020 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0020` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0020](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0020) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1000s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1000s) the invasion back on Iran believing that the decapitation strike in the first day um would cause the regime to collapse because it was so uh hated by the people remember in January there were also these protests in Iran so um it was a severe miscalculation and it was caused by again a lethal combination of both hubris and desperation hubris in that the Empire fight was invincible desperation in that it had no choice in the matter but to start this war in order to ### 17:12 seg-0021 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0021` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0021](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0021) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1032s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1032s) maintain its hegemony throughout the world then Professor John uh will this we've heard some rumblings in Wall Street Journal about a possible a land invasion U.S troops being sent to try to seize the coastline in the midst of especially the Strait of Hormuz crisis uh at the same time though you have the U.S Navy saying they can't escort tankers you have uh reports that have not been confirmed the USS Lincoln needing to retreat because they got hit the USS Gerald Ford uh having mysterious fires then of course the tankers that were downed over a rock just in the last 24 hours but do you see U.S troops uh coming uh to Iran and to invade and if so uh game Theory that for us ### 18:04 seg-0022 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0022` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0022](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0022) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1084s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1084s) will you so what people forget is on 2003 uh when America did shock and all there was tremendous military pushback against destruction of shock and awe basically um Donald Rumsfeld who was the Secretary of Defense at that time and his assistant Paul wolfowitz believed that America could go in with air power with very little ground troops and they could very quickly decapitate the regime by destroying its command and control centers and America could do this cheaply and quickly and the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff the generals who knew what they were doing were against this plan they thought it was insane they thought it went against um centuries of military military doctrine from their perspective you have to fight the war conservatively and to win you just can't gamble with uh war so I believe at that time um they went in with 100 000 troops and the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually initially asked ### 19:09 seg-0023 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0023` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0023](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0023) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1149s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1149s) for half a million troops because that was what they believed they needed to win this war and uh it became a political uh dog fight and ultimately Rumsfeld and wolfowitz won and their gamble paid off massive dividends and ever since then America has um adopted its shock and all policy now the problem with shock and awe is that people forget but at that time in 2003 Iraq didn't have any defense okay it didn't have any way to defend against American invasion and it's and that was partly because by that time Iraq had suffered over 10 years of American sanctions so the economy was depleted uh the people were in low morale and the soldiers were not really paid okay so they didn't have that much air defense and then when someone who's saying was um basically advised to get a defense his response was listen if the Americans came after me then they would eliminate ### 20:12 seg-0024 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0024` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0024](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0024) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1212s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1212s) the main adversary to Iran in the Middle East so why would they do that that would be just be insane and honestly they came I couldn't really defend myself either okay so that was his thinking it was extremely logical and rational but unfortunately Americans are were not logical and rational because they're an Empire so um people forget that 2003 was an anomaly it was not a real war um but this war in Iran is a real war and in a real war you need to use ground troops why because your defense is meant to defend against the year so the way you counter your defense is actually with ground troops okay and in a real war actually the ground troops are the bread and butter the infantry of the bread and butter um of your military so the Americans have been living in the agency world for the past 20 years and now they need ### 21:14 seg-0025 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0025` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0025](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0025) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1274s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1274s) to adapt to the real world if they are to win this war now I understand that in ground invasion would be political suicide in the United States because the war is not very popular and quite honestly Donald Trump would need to institute a national draft in order to get the 500 000 combat soldiers that he would need for a ground invasion and by the way half a million is just the bare minimum you probably want two million troops um you are to fight this war properly okay so half a million is is what they are proposing and then we need a national draft in order to get this number of troops and you you can imagine the bloke opposition in the United States if that were to happen plus what most military analysts would tell you is that America is not equipped to fight Iran because Iran is a mountain fortress America doesn't have the ### 22:06 seg-0026 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0026` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0026](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0026) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1326s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1326s) logistics chains the manufacturing capacity uh in an inventory to launch a multi -war uh sorry a multi -year uh ground invasion of Iran from multiple vectors okay so we're talking uh you would need to control the cervical moves and then you would need to come in from the east the west and the north um so it's a very complicated thing and this would take about two years to actually plan properly but in these two years Iran would get enough assistance from the Russians the Chinese and others in order to properly prepare for this ground invasion and do it as soon as possible before Iran can fully recover from this um from from this war okay so a ground invasion wouldn't work but they have to do it if they actually do win this war now I understand okay there are people who say why not just declare victory and go home and then end this ### 23:01 seg-0027 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0027` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0027](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0027) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1381s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1381s) war it's not as simple as that okay this when a war starts war developed its own momentum so let me play out for you using game theory what happened if Donald Trump were to say you know what we got we got the we got the atola we've destroyed their nuclear weapons program we've destroyed their obelisks program we've made the world safe for um for Israel let's just go home guys goodbye see you later okay here's what would happen okay first thing that would happen is Iran would say to the GCC Nations hey man uh the Americans came and destroyed our nation most of our civilian military infrastructure is gone we need to operate reparation you either pay us reparations or we'll come and invade you guys okay and GC Nation is like but we didn't do anything and the Iranians will be like well you know what you've been hosting American bases for the longest ### 23:58 seg-0028 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0028` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0028](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0028) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1438s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1438s) time also you they use your airspace to attack us also you're the guys who are financing this war because of your investments in the American economy and so if the GC nations refuse to pay reparation and Iran would cause civil uprisings in these nations remember these are unpopular corrupt Monarchies in the GCC um brand has basically fallen um and everyone else could fall as well uh UAE is uh can be easily taken out and so what these GC nations would then say to Iran is let's make a deal and the deal is very simple we have four trillion dollars in our sovereign war funds we're going to help you finance the rebuilding of your nation and also when our ships go for the shirt who moves we'll pay you a tax because now you are the defender of the straight of the whole moves okay so that's the GCC basically the GCC which was a ### 24:58 seg-0029 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0029` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0029](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0029) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1498s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1498s) linchpin of American Empire now transfers transfers over to Iran and they become the client States of Iran that's the first major consequence the second major consequence is um if you are Japan and South Korea for the longest time you've been buying U.S Treasuries at an inflated price you're basically paying a tax a tribute to American Empire in order to ensure that we're gonna Empire defends you well you just saw what happened um in the Middle East so you're like why am I doing this why am I hosting these American bases when when a war starts these guys these fifty thousand or hundred thousand American soldiers will just fly home uh so first of all get out of here guys we don't watch it anymore we're not gonna buy U.S Treasuries because clearly um uh the United States is not a reliable ally okay so South Korea and Japan would remilitarize and basically become ### 25:54 seg-0030 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0030` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0030](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0030) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1554s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1554s) much more self -sufficient economies and stop buying U.S Treasuries um then you would have um Europe which would which would then be like why are we fighting this one Ukraine again oh wait a minute we're finished war because today five percent of our GDP in order to finance this war in Ukraine also Americans are asking us to draft our soldiers which is political suicide in our countries it might cause a civil uprising um but we have no choice because there are lots and lots of American bases in Europe but after you saw what happened in the Middle East and in Southeast Asia then you're like you know what we don't actually need these American bases so why don't you guys go home okay so the American Empire is just kicked out of everywhere they're forced to close most of their uh um global bases and you're like okay fine we'll just go home it's ### 26:45 seg-0031 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0031` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0031](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0031) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1605s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1605s) not what Trump said in the first place America first make America great again forget the rest of the world let's focus on the Western Hemisphere again it's not that simple because remember America is a Ponzi scheme that depends on the rest of the world buying U.S dollars and as long as the U.S dollars by sorry as long as the rest of the world buys U.S dollars the positive can continue once uh Japan China South Korea Europe the GCC stop buying U.S dollars what happens you have economic collapse uh and once you have economic collapse you have civil discontent we're talking about something much much worse than the Great Depression take the Great Depression and magnify 500 times become close to the calamity uh that is ahead for America and so uh it's very possible that if you were to retreat uh from the from the GCC you would cause a chain ### 27:39 seg-0032 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0032` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0032](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0032) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1659s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1659s) of events in America and so if you are the elite in America your options are wait for the revolution to happen sooner or later or send in ground troops the hope that you know you pray to God enough then you can ### 27:55 seg-0033 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0033` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0033](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0033) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1675s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1675s) uh maintain your empire yeah yeah well uh I wanted to then get to how you believe then given that these are the possibilities how uh it will actually transpire for us for Johnny especially in terms of the impact world with this war because you know we had already been talking about on this show for many years now uh the emergence of a new world order that is not dominated by u.s hegemony how do you see this war and its aftermath um affecting the the wider world given that it's not only a regional war war but it's become a global war world war in many respects and you've talked about uh this being a not just a prelude but actually a part of a world war iii scenario ### 28:46 seg-0034 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0034` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0034](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0034) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1726s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1726s) that we are in right so people don't really appreciate how unique and unsustainable the american unipolar moment was think about this where just an average american okay we're just talking like like a middle -class american well he can have any day of the week okay for breakfast avocados from mexico uh white wines from chile he can book a flight on the website and very cheaply fly to maldives for a week -long vacation and just us us dollars to pay for everything um he can go to europe for the summer uh for the internet he can communicate with people from all around the world and this is unsustainable because a lot of it depends on people's belief that the american empire is a global threat to human rights and the unipolar moment is something that is absolutely is invincible and therefore have no choice but to be a vassal to this empire and that's what sustains ### 29:47 seg-0035 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0035` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0035](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0035) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1787s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1787s) this unipolar moment but now that you have this aura of inevitability and it's really collapsed uh punctured by this war in iran then people no longer believe in the american empire and so what you'll see are three major trends happen in the next five to ten years and quite honestly the nations that are uh most willing to embrace these three trends we emerge from the classic empire uh the most vibrant okay and these three major trends are number one de -industrialization and de -urbanization okay so what i mean by that is that it is silly that we have so many mega cities around the world uh think about how many cities with 10 million plus people there are on the world and we have so many mega cities around the world uh think about how many cities with 10 million plus people there are on the world uh think about how many cities with 10 ### 30:47 seg-0036 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0036` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0036](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0036) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1847s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1847s) million plus people there are um and and where they're getting food is uh inputting this food uh from overseas or internally okay so you have basically a specialization of agriculture throughout the world where basically just one nation just does one uh um one cash corp corp um you know growing bananas or avocados whatever okay but that's just really silly to do um and you but you can do this as long as you have cheap oil because cheap oil allows you the fertilizers to grow food but also cheap oil allows you to transport this food throughout the world um but again it's all promised on cheap oil what happens when the cheap oil goes away well you have food supply issues okay so these 10 million people in the cities doing whatever you know whether it's um cryptocurrency scams or gambling on polymarket or engaging in derivatives um creating derivatives um creating ai um you know ### 31:48 seg-0037 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0037` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0037](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0037) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1908s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1908s) like it's all just useless and silly people need to grow food and so that we can eat okay so if you're if you are really into ai guess what you're gonna be really screwed without access to cheap energy so stop this ai stupidity and go back to growing food okay so that means getting out of the cities and back to the farmland to grow food to create more sustainable supply chains and again you have to do this or you're gonna starve i'm telling i'm telling this this entire world okay give up your delusions about ai it does nothing it'll get you nowhere make sure your people have access to food and water okay that's the first major trend the industrial uh professor john it ### 32:33 seg-0038 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0038` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0038](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0038) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1953s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1953s) seems like we've uh lost you here uh you said uh make sure to prepare for to to grow food focus on food uh but you are frozen if you can hear me uh maybe you could refresh your uh browser um as you have uh frozen i will also uh there you are all right you're back yeah so so i mean i have a basic ### 32:55 seg-0039 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0039` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0039](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0039) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1975s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=1975s) point which is like the industrialization and urbanization require cheap energy and once you lose access to cheap energy you have to worry about having sustainable food supply networks that means you have to worry about having sustainable food supply networks that means you have to worry about having sustainable food supply networks that means you have to worry about having sustainable food in order to feed your your population okay that has to be done okay that's my first point my second um trend the second trend that's very important is the idea of remilitarization meaning that in the future people are going to fight over resources and so you need to remilitarize your population and what this means ultimately is the return of nationalism and in example in some cases actually the return of fascism because how you galvanize your population how you convince them to sacrifice their lives um for the greater good is through nationalism there ### 33:54 seg-0040 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0040` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0040](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0040) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2034s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2034s) are some other nations that will become theocracies uh the embrace of religious faith okay but like the idea of this like this multicultural multipolar sorry multicultural global diversity dei all this nonsense it has to go away just just throw it out okay no more diversity no more multiculturalism just focus on who we are as a people and the need for us to be cohesive in order to defend our nation okay so we remilitarization the return of nationalism and the um third major uh trend is the breaking up of these of the global economy and the creation of mercantile trade networks okay and that could be cooperation among nations and that's what we should see in europe uh where europe becomes its own training block and no longer engages with the rest of the world but it could also mean that a certain nation becomes dominant in a region and imposes its will in that region ### 34:55 seg-0041 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0041` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0041](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0041) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2095s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2095s) so i see um israel achieving something called the greater issue project and being able to control trade uh throughout the mediterranean um the middle east and africa um in east asia there'll be competition between south korea north korea vietnam japan and china for resources and um and they need to create um their own independent supply chains especially japan um japan is in this sort of scenario uh the most disadvantaged because they don't have enough resources to fuel their advanced manufacturing economy and so we could see a very aggressive remilitarized economy japan over the next uh few months in fact prime minister takeichi has voiced tremendous support for this israel u.s war against iran and she's promised to send missiles and um and munitions in defense uh sorry over to the middle east to support this war okay so so so these are the three major trends that we should see over the next few ### 36:02 seg-0042 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0042` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0042](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0042) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2162s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2162s) months um nations adopting uh more de -industrialized policies um nations adopting uh more de -industrialized policies um nations adopting uh more de -industrialized policies uh nations uh embracing nationalism and then also uh nations trying to create their own independent uh supply chains and the irony of course is the nations that benefit the most from globalization will be the ones that actually have the toughest toughest time uh adapting to the new world and that includes of course um united states china uh germany um yeah i wanted to ask you ### 36:40 seg-0043 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0043` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0043](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0043) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2200s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2200s) about uh the you you made a comment about greater Israel and the attempt to achieve it um what do you where do you see that now given that uh Iran doesn't seem like it's on the verge of collapse it seems like its government is very much intact and now even the collective West is admitting this and I think Europe is on the phone with Iran right now trying to get a deal to move their cargo and their commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz um but also Israel is in heavy fighting with Hezbollah and uh part of the greater Israel project will also include a rock and we see the resistance downing uh refueling tankers so there's certainly opposition to this and we haven't even gone into Yemen yet uh with what could happen if the Bab al -Mandeb is closed so uh where do you make of where the greater Israel project is right ### 37:30 seg-0044 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0044` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0044](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0044) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2250s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2250s) now and how that will take place ### 37:34 seg-0045 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0045` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0045](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0045) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2254s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2254s) shape in the days and weeks to come okay so Israel is a very sorry so Israel is a very difficult nation to understand because of their theology because of their understanding of their place in the world they call themselves God's chosen people okay so from an Israeli perspective okay you are religious extremists this war is is going according to God's plan because how do you achieve the greater Israel project will you achieve the greater Israel project by removing America from the Middle East uh and you achieve the greater Israel project by basically destroying the GCC um and and ultimately um to achieve the greatest project you'll ask you'll eventually have to go after um Turkey and Egypt as well because we're on the greater Israel if you see a map um it actually extends from the now to the Euphrates Iran is actually not part of greater Israel okay so in other words these religious ### 38:36 seg-0046 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0046` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0046](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0046) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2316s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2316s) extremists want this war in the Middle East in order to move forward to accelerate the greater Israel project which they believe is why God promised them through their ancestor Abraham okay so in other words from an Israeli perspective your real objectives in this war is not to defeat Iran okay you want to weaken Iran but it's not really feasible for you as small nation to defeat Iran okay so what are your real military objectives that you can actually say first of all it's to destroy the American Empire and force Americans out of the Middle East it's just destroy Saudi Arabia because actually it's part of Saudi Arabia is is a part of the greater Israel project and to drag Turkiya into this war because the south of Anatolia Turkiya is actually part of the greater Israel project as well so that's what you want to do and and if this war drags on and the ### 39:32 seg-0047 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0047` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0047](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0047) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2372s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2372s) American sense stands in ground troops then you are then you actually are even bettering God's plan um also what people don't recognize is that this destruction in Israel they say these religious extremists think that it is the will of God okay so where are the Iranians are striking tiredly where are they not striking really Jerusalem there's a huge difference between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem people don't really appreciate oh sorry sorry that was a mistakeou really appreciate the global Dynamic in uh Tel Aviv Jerusalem until sorry appreciate the political dynamic in Israel. Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are two opposing centers of gravity in Israel. Tel Aviv is the western looking, the open, the cosmopolitan, the secular, democratic version or face of Israel. Jerusalem is the inward looking, the religious, theocratic, the conservative face of Israel. And guess what? They hate each other. And if Tel Aviv were to be destroyed, meaning the open, cosmopolitan, democratic sector of Israel would be destroyed in this war? ### 40:51 seg-0048 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0048` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0048](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0048) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2451s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2451s) Good because that is God's will. God doesn't want these open western Jews, Israel. He wants them to repent. He wants them to engage in redemption. And in the Jewish theology, redemption is only possible through pain, suffering, okay? You need to commit sin in order to force God to punish you, and then you engage in a long process of self -reflection, self -revitalization in order to fully embrace God, okay? So in other words, these religious extremists are hoping to use this war to inflict so much damage and pain on secular Israel that they see the error of their ways and embrace God fully. And if you don't do so, well, then go away. Go back to Europe. Go back to America. Who cares, okay? But Israel, they want Israel to become a theocracy because of this war. So I know it's hard to understand because most of us are not religious. ### 42:01 seg-0049 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0049` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0049](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0049) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2521s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2521s) And when we hear this, we think it's all insane. But unfortunately, right now, the religious fanatics have control over the national security apparatus, the military of Israel. And they want to use this war in order to bring the Jewish people closer to God. And they believe that by doing so, this will accelerate the coming of the Messiah and usher in the Messianic age. So from their point of view, they're hoping to do this war to bring the Jewish people closer to God. And they have some surprises in store for the world. For example, the Al -Azhar Mosque, which I think may be destroyed in this war. ### 42:44 seg-0050 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0050` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0050](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0050) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2564s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2564s) Speaker 2 Well, also, Professor Jong, the US military has been infected by this kind of religious extremism. You've probably seen the reports of 200 plus complaints from the Military Religious Freedom Foundation by US troops. Speaker 2 You've probably seen the reports of 200 plus complaints from the Military Religious Freedom saying that they were told that this war was all part of God's divine plan. And there were multiple references to the book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ because of this war. So, you know, I think a lot of people are interested, First John, hearing your take on how this religious extremism we see. And this is when we talk Israel and, of course, the collective West. It's getting worse and worse, contrary to how people view Iran, actually. And I'm wondering how you see that affecting not just this war, but also the world as these changes, the end ### 43:49 seg-0051 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0051` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0051](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0051) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2629s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2629s) of unipolar dominance by the United States, really becomes much more apparent from this war and, of course, you know, in the coming days and weeks. ### 43:59 seg-0052 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0052` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0052](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0052) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2639s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2639s) Right. So. I've always argued that this war is eschatological, meaning you can't really explain this war from a purely geopolitical lens. Yes, I do know that I spent the early part of this discussion talking about why empire needs to engage in war. But, you know, there are alternatives to what they're doing. OK, so the first alternative is to become friends with Iran, you know, remove the sanctions, return to the nuclear deal, the Obama era nuclear deal. And engage in trade with Iran. And look, the Iranians are pragmatic people. They would welcome American investment. They would welcome the opportunity to sell their oil to America. OK, that's your first option. But if you don't want to do that option, then you can also choose a strategy of economic strangulation, meaning that you basically embargo Iran. Iran sells most of its oil to China and that's a shadow fleet. Well, you can embargo Iran because if you look at the map, there are American military bases everywhere, right? ### 45:03 seg-0053 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0053` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0053](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0053) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2703s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2703s) So you have options. The worst thing you can do is actually go and attack Iran because then you find yourself in this sort of situation where now you're losing the war and you're forced to send in ground troops if you are to win this war. And we've already discussed why that would be suicidal, both militarily, economically and politically. So then the question then is, why did they pick the worst option? And it's eschatological. Where there are people in the United States, and these are secret societies, and these are different secret societies who believe this, they believe that a war in the Middle East, once it started, it will create a chain of events that will lead eventually to the end of the world, the end times. And for different secret societies, this could mean different things. OK, so for the Freemasons, it would mean the creation of Pax Judaica. ### 46:00 seg-0054 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0054` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0054](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0054) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2760s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2760s) A one -world government and the coming of an AI surveillance state where Jerusalem is the center of the world. OK, then you have these Messianic Jews called the Shabbat Lubavitch movement, and there are others as well, but the most famous, who believe that this war will initiate something called the War of Gog and Magog, which is really the end, the final battle of humanity, where the world basically attacks Israel. And this will force the return. Oh, sorry. The coming of Israel. The coming of their Messiah, the intervention of God, basically, and the coming of the Messianic age, where God will live with his people, the Jews. And then the Christian Zionists believe that this war will initiate the War of Gog and Magog, and then Jesus will return to save Israel from its enemies. And then all Christians who believe in Jesus will be raptured up into heaven. Before Jesus ushers in the millennium, the Messianic age, and then you have the final day of judgment. ### 47:05 seg-0055 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0055` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0055](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0055) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2825s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2825s) OK, so I understand this is sort of like bonkers, but I mean, most people in this world happen to be religious. Christian Zionism is about a quarter of the population of America. You know, you have this movement called Christians United for Israel, seven million members and their only goal, seven million members. Their only goal is to ensure. That American politicians help bring about the end, the end of days, and these are the people who actually are funding these West Bank settlements, which are clearly against international law, right? So you have these all these Israeli settlers in the West Bank who don't actually work and they have, like, large families. It's all being funded by Christians United for Israel and other Christian Zionists. So this plan has been in motion for decades. I would even I would argue even for centuries. ### 47:55 seg-0056 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0056` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0056](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0056) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2875s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2875s) OK, so they want to usher in. The end of days, and so there are certain things that that will happen that will surprise people, and it makes absolutely no sense, but it's all according to their theology, their eschatology. OK, so what will happen eventually is the Al -Aqsa Mosque will be destroyed, and in fact, there's been discussions on social media how this will happen. Basically, the idea is, OK, for the past few years, they've been conducting archaeological digs under the Al -Aqsa Mosque. Which is the third holiest site in Islam, by the way. And so the foundations of the Al -Aqsa Mosque are very unstable. And so basically, if an Iranian missile goes astray and we won't actually know if it's Iranian missile, but of course, we blame on Iranians, then they'll be controlled demolition of the mosque. OK, so so again, look, it's all speculation. It's all rumors. But if it were to happen, then you will know that it's all for eschatological purposes. ### 48:56 seg-0057 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0057` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0057](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0057) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2936s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2936s) And. and also like this is hard for people to understand but anti -semitism the rise of anti -semitism in the western world is also part of this eschatology because in both the jewish and christian eschatological understanding of things the jews must return to jerusalem to seek redemption to seek repetent uh sorry to seek um the love of of god to unify with with god and that basically means bring bringing the jewish diaspora back to jerusalem now as you know most jews many jews in the western world live very nice lives uh they're very successful oh you froze uh ### 49:42 seg-0058 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0058` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0058](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0058) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2982s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2982s) professor john you said they're very successful if you come back yeah so yeah so they're successful ### 49:49 seg-0059 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0059` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0059](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0059) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2989s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=2989s) and then they won't come back voluntarily well then you make them and again i know this sounds crazy but please remember this war in iran is crazy it makes absolutely no sense why the americans are fighting the war they the way the way they are and it like honestly it doesn't seem as though trump and his people really care and you know their response to this growing unpopularity um of this war in america is maybe to institute a national draft you know there's talk of deploying the national guard to quell unrest uh throughout the um throughout america you know like trump's cabinet has basically moved on to american military bases and the people that would be most responsible for a national draft and the sending of the national guard people like uh pete hegstaff and stephen miller and uh christine uh noam they've all moved to american military bases and why would they do that ### 50:48 seg-0060 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0060` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0060](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0060) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3048s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3048s) okay so it seems as though something ### 50:50 seg-0061 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0061` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0061](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0061) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3050s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3050s) is being prepared for america well uh professor john you know what's what you're describing here i'm wondering how it clashes with capital then because we know that finance cap we know that the military sort of complex they have very i wouldn't call them rational given everything that we talked about so far with how this war has transpired uh but there are i think uh understandable uh uh uh disagreements and you know irreconcilable contradictions that they have with uh the iranian government uh whether it's uh you know uh wanting to uh maintain hegemony ensure as you said earlier that russia china iran cannot uh unite at a political economic and military level and we go on and on and on of the straight of four moves for example to have control of that to be able to ensure uh you know a so -called freedom of navigation aka dominance of all trade routes to cut off ### 51:48 seg-0062 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0062` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0062](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0062) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3108s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3108s) china and anyone uh else uh who needs to be dominated uh inch to ensure that their trade routes uh are directed by the us and therefore will benefit u.s financial interests how does this development that you're describing clash or a line or some or both how help us understand uh why there is because in many ways what you're describing could very well clash with it uh so how does how does it all come together okay so unfortunately um this is the eschatology ### 52:21 seg-0063 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0063` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0063](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0063) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3141s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3141s) of these religious extremists and trust national capital their interests are aligned okay so uh let me explain why so this eschatology is a very interesting one because it's a very interesting one because the eschatology comes from these occultists who spent their entire lives reading the bible and trying to interpret divine um providence uh and divine intention in in the bible okay so they feel i feel so this bible is is actually the words of god and god has laid out this plan in the bible so if we're able to interpret this code properly then we have then we have an understanding of god's plan and therefore we can enact it in our world to accelerate the development of this divine providence and we have an understanding of god's plan and therefore we can enact it in our world to accelerate the return of god to to our world and famous occultists in the past include ### 53:05 seg-0064 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0064` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0064](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0064) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3185s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3185s) um i think newton um people don't appreciate that he spent most of his life actually studying the bible and you know him creating a loss of physics was actually just a function or a side function of his intense study of the bible because he's trying to understand the mind of god okay another very famous occultist is stuff like zevi occultist that just recently passed away but who's extremely influential is named rabbi snareson who was the global leader or something called the shabbat lukavitch movement okay so we don't actually need to know these people we we just know that there are these people in the shadows who are planning all this okay now if you're an occultist you're interested in the movement of the stars your movement you're interested in the grand scheme of humanity and therefore you have insight to certain historical patterns that emerge okay so the world that we're living in um patterns ### 54:01 seg-0065 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0065` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0065](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0065) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3241s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3241s) that are emerging because of empire this is how all empires collapse and it's something that occultists understand okay but from their perspective this isn't just game theory or this isn't just uh the nature of empires but for them they believe it is actually the intention of god okay so um so from their perspective you can actually change events but what you can do is accelerate events right so when empires collapse and these empires about 20 years 20 years to collapse um that would create tremendous human suffering right look look at the collapse of the roman empire and how many wars how much bloodshed was um what was conducted because of the collapse of empire and the collapse of the empire led to the dark ages right about a thousand years when civilization had to reconstitute itself well why can't you accelerate the class of empire in order to build a better world wouldn't that be ### 54:59 seg-0066 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0066` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0066](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0066) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3299s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3299s) um a much better way of doing things yes you can't you cause a lot of pain and death in the beginning in the short term but it's long -term gain right short -term pain for long -term gain that's like literally how they think okay so that's how these eschatologists or occultists think now let's look at transnational capital okay and jeffrey epstein if you read his emails he was actually very interested in geopolitical events because he understood that from geopolitical chaos you can make a lot of money right so the famous saying is when there's blood on the streets okay so jeffrey epstein was going around getting confident confidential information from people like peter mendelstein who was the um i'm sorry mendelsohn and and anyway he was getting confidential information from a lot of powerful people around the world in order to better gauge how geopolitical events uh would map out okay um so transnational capital ### 55:54 seg-0067 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0067` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0067](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0067) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3354s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3354s) is interested in war interested in destruction interested in chaos because that's the best time to buy okay so let's imagine that there's this war raging in the middle east let's just say that there's this civil war raging in america and there's a lot of destruction that's great for you as transgender transnational capital because now you can sweep in and buy resources for really cheap right um and the faster this destruction happens the more profit you can generate in uh at the at the end of the day and that's when things becomeこう where does gender from race and ethnic groupes disappear what will become of us and against us and毅 no what is so interesting uh and i think that there's no he is taking a observed twohall want toờ wo you mean there umồ no it's x tuً uh no i don't know though i'm going to say about theanz you destroy the world now ### 57:03 seg-0068 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0068` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0068](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0068) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3423s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3423s) you can buy up these resources water rights uh mining rights for really cheap um and during the rebuilding process you can make a lot of money right so so so that's how ### 57:15 seg-0069 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0069` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0069](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0069) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3435s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3435s) these things work yeah well uh professor jung i wanted to then ask you uh we're getting uh reports uh that uh you know the united states the empire it's going through great lengths to try to mitigate the massive consequences of this war um you know they've uh lifted sanctions temporarily on russia they flooded they've tried to flood the market with reserves from 32 countries a part of the iaea none of it is reducing prices actually in the last several days uh it's it's nearly risen back to a hundred dollars a barrel and the trend actually is is just up and up and up uh reports are that this crisis energy crisis is worse than the 1970s crisis already by a factor of two um and it's just started what happens uh uh professor john when iran saying that our oil will be going to 200 a barrel what happens then when it does because everything ### 58:19 seg-0070 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0070` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0070](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0070) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3499s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3499s) that we talked about up until this point including what you just said uh will play a factor in this i i assume so what happens then because that's that's a major economic crisis that uh i don't think we've really faced uh before or at least to this magnitude ### 58:37 seg-0071 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0071` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0071](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0071) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3517s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3517s) yeah so look the reality is that the old world the world of global uh globalization it's dying and it's it's and this war is going to kill it there's actually no going back to the old world and we're heading to a and we're heading towards a new world of chaos uh instability resource scarcity which is really how humans have lived most of their lives. So if you just go back to 1930s and look at what happened in the 1930s, well, probably the same thing will happen in our world over the next few years. So in the short term, what governments are going to do is they're going to try to compensate for the lack of access to cheap energy. And basically, so in Southeast Asia, we're seeing work from home. We're seeing the implementation of four -day work weeks. Eventually, they'll move to lockdowns, very similar to COVID as well. Because the reality is that ### 59:38 seg-0072 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0072` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0072](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0072) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3578s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3578s) without cheap energy, it's impossible for the modern nation -state to sustain the populations that they have, right? You can't feed tens of millions of people based on food imports and cheap energy. So these nations are going to have a hard time. They're going to struggle, and you will see lockdowns. You will see food rationing throughout the world. There are actually no choice in the matter. These airlines are going to have to close down. People cannot fly around the world whenever they want anymore. It's too expensive, and it's too pointless to do so. So prices will skyrocket, especially for plane fares, especially for meat. And so that's the short term. In the mid -term, you will see conflicts throughout the world. So this could include civil unrest. This could include political revolutions. Because remember, these governments around the world, most of them are not democratic, and most of them are extremely unpopular. And most of them are actually sustained by the power of American empire, especially in this country. ### 1:00:56 seg-0073 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0073` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0073](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0073) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3656s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3656s) In the Islamic world, especially in South America. And so once American empire fades, American empire is not able to provide a material lifestyle, then the population is going to revolt, and you will see the rise primarily of right -wing nationalist movements. And we're already seeing that in Europe. And that's just going to be a natural trend. In the long term, you will see massive remilitarization and a massive restructuring of society. So one thing that these nations need to resolve is the aging crisis, especially in Europe, especially in Southeast Asia, South Korea, Japan. Whichever nation is able to resolve the aging crisis as soon as possible will come out of the coming chaos the most vibrant nation. And I think that there's one nation in the world that I think actually has a solution to the aging crisis, and that's Japan. Why? ### 1:02:04 seg-0074 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0074` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0074](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0074) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3724s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3724s) Because the aging crisis in Japan is the most salient. It could destroy the economy. And so what I think will happen is that Japan will institute a national euthanasia program. So if you're over 80, you will volunteer to you know, yeah. But I'm sorry this is hard, okay? But I mean, the world that we're going into, we have to really plan ahead and imagine the darkest possibilities. So yeah, it's not a pretty picture. ### 1:02:42 seg-0075 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0075` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0075](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0075) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3762s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3762s) Yeah, what's so interesting, I was just looking at the rankings. Two of the biggest countries, I guess we could count Guyana as food self -sufficient. It's on the rankings internationally. But China and Vietnam are two and three. And the rest of the countries you can see very low. U.S., Western countries, very, very, very low. So in the hardest of times, it'll be very difficult for the collective West to be able to sustain itself. And I think that's why we see too, first with China, and then the collective West, U.S., this kind of extremism that you say complements so well, the warmongering, the desperate attempts to basically blow up the world are so salient. Because I do think that there is this real urge from those who control Washington, some people call them the Epstein class, to ensure that they are covered, that their behinds are covered as things continue to spiral for the system that they control. ### 1:03:47 seg-0076 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0076` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0076](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0076) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3827s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3827s) So, Professor Zhang, any final comments, anything you want to say about the Iran situation, the global situation as it relates to it that we might not have said so far? ### 1:04:00 seg-0077 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0077` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0077](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0077) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3840s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3840s) Right. So the Western nations, Europe, North America, are the ones who suffer the most in this age of tribulation. And a lot of the reason why is that for the past 50 years, these nations have the best lives. Like if you're a baby boomer, you have the best possible life. You probably live better than the Roman emperor. So it was just a very unsustainable lifestyle. And these baby boomers, they're clinging on to empire because it's empire that gave them all these worldly benefits. And they're leaving a terrible legacy for their children and their grandchildren. And quite honestly, they don't seem to care. People don't really appreciate the impact of baby boomers on imperial policy. Basically, baby boomers are like, you know what? I have another 5, 10, 20 years left. I want to make sure that I'm enjoying the world. And that means I want the American empire to keep on going. So a lot of it is driven by this demographic of baby boomers. ### 1:05:11 seg-0078 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0078` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0078](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0078) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3911s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3911s) And their children, their grandchildren, basically us, we're going to inherit, a really screwed up world. And if we seek to live, to replicate the lifestyle of the baby boomers, which is materialistic, selfish, utilitarian, we will destroy the world and will destroy us in the process. So right now, the world needs to have a spiritual awakening and abandon the consumerism, the materialism, the individualism of the baby boomer generation of the American empire, which has led us to this moment. And really ask yourselves, what is meaningful? What gives us pleasure? What makes us happy? And the answer, of course, is family and community and purpose. So in this age of tribulation, those who are most able to survive it are those who commit themselves to the betterment of humanity, basically by helping your neighbors, by being an open, generous, and kind person. You don't have to take a cruise vacation every summer. ### 1:06:25 seg-0079 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0079` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0079](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0079) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3985s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=3985s) You don't have to vacation in the Maldives. You don't have to have avocado every single day. But what you do need, what you really want is to love your children and to teach your children to be kind, open, and generous people. What really gives you happiness and joy is to help your neighbor in need, to see others in need, and contribute your life altruistically to their improvement. So this is a turning point in humanity. And those that cling on to the materialistic, selfish, individualistic life will be the first to fall into depression. And those who are incapable of a spiritual awakening will thrive in this new world. ### 1:07:13 seg-0080 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0080` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0080](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0080) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4033s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4033s) Yeah. Yeah. Professor Zhang, it was great to have you back on the show. We'll have to do it again soon as things transpire. We'll head out of here together. I want to thank everybody who watched today and who gave a super chat and became members. I can pull those up really quickly as I tell you that I have both Professor Zhang's sub stack and his YouTube channel in the video description below. So you can check those out when we are done here. I also have all the places for this channel as well from the sub stack, Patreon, and much more. So everybody, thanks so much for joining me. Sorry we couldn't get to questions. We are short on time. I really appreciate all of you for all your support in this time and for, of course, spreading the message far and wide, which can be done by hitting the like button. That will keep this show going. ### 1:08:07 seg-0081 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0081` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0081](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0081) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4087s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4087s) Without further ado, everyone, have a good rest of your week weekend. And we will continue with the updates on the score. All right, take care. Thank you again, Professor Zhang. Anything you want to say to the audience as we head out of here? ### 1:08:20 seg-0082 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0082` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0082](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0082) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4100s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4100s) No. Thanks for watching. ### 1:08:22 seg-0083 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-px5wsnsqwme@transcript:v1#seg-0083` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0083](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-px5wsnsqwme/transcript/#seg-0083) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4102s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wsNSqwME&t=4102s) All right. Bye bye.