--- title: "In 2026 The World War Will EXPLODE transcript" description: "Source-synced transcript archive for In 2026 The World War Will EXPLODE." source_title: "In 2026 The World War Will EXPLODE" published_at: "2025-12-09" source_class: "interview" public_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/" markdown_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript.md" text_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript.txt" source_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4" data_url: "https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4.json" --- # In 2026 The World War Will EXPLODE transcript - Source: [In 2026 The World War Will EXPLODE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4) - Published: 2025-12-09, day precision - Human transcript page: [/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/) - Interview page: [/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/) - Transcript Markdown: [/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript.md](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript.md) - Transcript text: [/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript.txt](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript.txt) - Interview JSON: [/data/lens/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4.json](https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4.json) ## Transcript ### 0:00 seg-0001 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0001` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0001](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0001) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=0s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=0s) For 2026, the major flashpoint will be between Russia and NATO. I think Ukraine is lost. It's possible the entire Ukrainian front lines collapse in the next two months. They've invested trillions of dollars into the war already. They went to the casino, they lost a million dollars. They can't go home to face the wives, so they're stuck there. Russia takes over Ukraine. Russia becomes a global hegemon because now it controls a third of the world's carbohydrates. And it can dictate global trade. It's very likely that 2026 you'll have a couple of false flags and they will escalate the rearmament of Europe. But the false flags won't be to rally the Ukrainian soldiers. The false flag will be between the Polish and possibly the Baltic states as well. I live in China and I'll tell you right now, we've been told by the authorities to not visit Japan. And the language was avoid dangerous places like the Congo and Japan. ### 0:46 seg-0002 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0002` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0002](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0002) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=46s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=46s) Japan is the safest country in the world. There's been a massive naval build -up in the Caribbean. If America strikes Venezuela, they send in marines, they occupy some territory. The Venezuelans start to engage in growth. Warfare. It becomes a basically a thumbs to fire for America. And then Russia starts to threaten Poland. And now will be the perfect time for Iran to strike and close off the short -term moves. You cut off Israel, you cut off the Gulf states. There's a very strong correlation between transnational capital and secret societies. If you look at the Epstein files, you will see a lot of linkages. ### 1:18 seg-0003 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0003` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0003](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0003) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=78s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=78s) Is there any secret society connection that extends into China? So World War III is already happening. ### 1:28 seg-0004 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0004` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0004](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0004) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=88s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=88s) This was happening. ### 1:28 seg-0005 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0005` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0005](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0005) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=88s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=88s) This is a house of cards. And it is in the process of collapsing right now. ### 1:31 seg-0006 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0006` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0006](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0006) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=91s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=91s) You are going to see an economic crash the likes of which we've never seen. ### 1:39 seg-0007 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0007` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0007](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0007) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=99s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=99s) Hi folks, Canadian Prepper here. We're back, once again with Professor Jiang over at the Predictive History YouTube channel. A new internet phenom in the geopolitical space here on YouTube and um, I was just talking about nutzen how you're the one thing i like about you is that you're very humble about it and i can't see this you ### 2:07 seg-0008 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0008` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0008](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0008) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=127s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=127s) of all people i can't see it go into your head yeah i mean i have three kids and that keeps me preoccupied and they don't think i'm famous and they still want me to feed them take them to a park tell them bedtime stories so that's what my focus is man those are going to be some pretty ### 2:25 seg-0009 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0009` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0009](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0009) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=145s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=145s) smart kids so you've been doing all kinds of videos on different history not just you don't just deal with you know war and geopolitics you go into history and the thing i like about your model is you you try to extrapolate what's happened in the past to the future so i'm hoping today we can talk a little bit about your predictions for 2026 and also what's your current assessment of the the geopolitical environment because since we last spoke you know i think it was a few months ago uh there's been some changes the war in ukraine is still going on now uh it appears as though war with venezuela is imminent i know last time we were talking about how it seemed like something was about to happen in iran that hasn't materialized yet there still seems to be a sense in iran that something could you know potentially arise in the not too distant ### 3:24 seg-0010 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0010` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0010](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0010) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=204s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=204s) future they are on a heist of alert it seems since we last spoke there's been increased inflammatory rhetoric from japan towards china and reciprocated you know the the placement of various weapon systems on the island chain surrounding taiwan so there's no shortage of things to talk about for you professor what's top of mind right now when you look at the grand chessboard where do you think the focal point is and what do you think is the focal point for you is for the next flashpoint of possible escalation around the world or are we going to be entering a ### 4:03 seg-0011 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0011` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0011](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0011) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=243s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=243s) a period of global rapprochement so i think for 2026 the major flashpoint will between russia and nato right now the ukrainian front lines cannot hold provost has been broken through and that's the last major stronghold in the dolbask war right now the ukrainian front lines are finally back on track and russia is one of the over the last 20 years so what this means is russia basically has um it can go straight to kiev it can threaten kiev and it's possible the entire ukrainian front lines collapse next two months you have high distortion rates among the ukrainians the ukrainians cannot replenish their forces which means that nato needs to reinforce the front lines possibly with volunteer troops from poland in 2026 discussing, we are re -establishing the draft. Germany will probably remilitarize over the next couple of years. Moldova might be brought into conflict. So Europe will be the major flashpoint in 2026, as it was in 1914 and 1939. ### 5:19 seg-0012 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0012` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0012](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0012) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=319s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=319s) So that's what history teaches us, that Europe will always be the major flashpoint. So that's what I think the major global focus will be. ### 5:29 seg-0013 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0013` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0013](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0013) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=329s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=329s) So you think that NATO will be forced to enter, or will they just let Ukraine go? I personally can't see them just letting it go, because there's a lot of reasons as to why they can't. But how do you see them intervening in this conflict? ### 5:48 seg-0014 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0014` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0014](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0014) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=348s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=348s) Yeah, so let's go over some of the major reasons why they can't let it go. Okay. I mean, first of all, NATO and Ukraine have had a narrative these past four years saying that Russia is on the brink of defeat. That the Russian economy will collapse, that the people will revolt and then be overthrown. They've been saying this for the past four years. And quite frankly, they've took the Kuwait. They really think it's going to happen. So if they hang on for another month or two months, eventually, the Russia will collapse. So they brainwash themselves. Second is the idea of some sort of cause fallacy. where they've invested trillions of dollars into the war already. And they expect Russia to be defeated and Russia to pay an indemnity to the Ukraine and to the Europeans. That's literally what the strategy is. We've invested trillions of dollars, but eventually Russia will be forced to pay us back. ### 6:41 seg-0015 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0015` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0015](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0015) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=401s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=401s) So a so -called policy, they went to the casino, they lost a million dollars, they can't go home to face the wives, so they're stuck there. The third problem is that if Russia takes over Ukraine, Russia becomes a global hegemon because now it controls a third of the world's carbohydrates and it can dictate global trade. And if that were the case, then Russia will always be a threat to Europe. Number four is regime instability. So if Ukraine signs a ceasefire, then it's possible the Assad battalion, launches a political coup in Kiev and overflows the regime. You have a political revolution, you have a lot of political assassinations. So if you're Zelensky, you're most afraid of peace. War keeps you alive. War keeps that corruption machine going. So if peace comes along, there's an auditing, there's a public revolution, political revolution. A lot of people are killed, a lot of people are put in prison. ### 7:40 seg-0016 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0016` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0016](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0016) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=460s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=460s) The scheme goes, it collapses basically. The last reason is, we have to remember, that it doesn't matter if the Ukrainians are losing or winning, the military industrial complex in America still makes money. So war is profitable. It's the most profitable industry in the world. A lot of people are still benefiting from this war. So for these reasons, this war can only escalate. It cannot ever come to a ceasefire, even though that would be in the best interests of both Russia and Ukraine. ### 8:14 seg-0017 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0017` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0017](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0017) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=494s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=494s) Yeah, and I will add to your number three, where you talked about the carbohydrates, because, of course, they would control Belarus. Russia is a major producer, agricultural producer. And, of course, Ukraine, the breadbasket of Europe, with very rich topsoils. In addition to that, they have trillions of dollars worth of natural resource wealth, like non -renewable rare earths, coal, oil, gas, that sort of thing. And in addition to that, if you were to take over, if you were to take over Ukraine, that's Europe's biggest army. And so you would, you know, typically, and as you probably know throughout history, what did, when Hitler like conquered places, like he incorporated their, their militaries, right? Like he, what were they called? Like honorary brigades or something like divisions. But, you know, so they would have, probably a lot of people would defect, but there would probably be some people who would just join. And they would have a lot of military experience. ### 9:18 seg-0018 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0018` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0018](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0018) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=558s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=558s) So you'd have the biggest military in Europe, which would create huge problems for NATO, because then you're talking about not only a Russia of 150 million people, but maybe if they take half, 20 million more Ukrainians. ### 9:35 seg-0019 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0019` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0019](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0019) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=575s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=575s) That's exactly right. That's exactly what history teaches us. So Napoleon, Hitler, they would incorporate defeated armies into their armies and make them the front lines. And you would push them to the front lines because they're expandable, they're cannon fodder, right? So that's exactly what happened. And that's great fear. And you're exactly right in that right now, the Ukrainians and the Russians are most experienced armies in the world because they've had four years of this warfare. They've learned a lot in drone warfare, in trans warfare and artillery warfare. These are very brave soldiers. Look, I mean, the Ukrainians have sustained one or two million casualties and they've launched like two or three different counter offensives. So these are very brave, strong soldiers. And quite honestly, the Europeans would not be able to face a combined Ukrainian -Russian military. ### 10:26 seg-0020 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0020` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0020](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0020) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=626s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=626s) Absolutely. And this is why they need to keep them on their side, like you're saying, and they'll do whatever they have to to keep them happy, it seems, even if to their own economic detriment, putting themselves into insurmountable debt in order to fund what a lot of people, because they don't understand the depth of the entanglement, might just see this as a pointless war from Europe's perspective. There's also, I would add, and I'm not sure what your thoughts are on this, just the global energy conflict, because of course the United States is not only selling weapons, but they're also selling liquefied natural gas. And that's a huge part. You know, Donald Trump has been commonly saying over and over again about how Europe is still buying Russian gas. I'm sure he has people in his ear who have lobbied him to try to ensure that that arrangement remains how it is, unless they can somehow be some intermediary between Russia and Europe or capitalize on it in some way. ### 11:30 seg-0021 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0021` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0021](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0021) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=690s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=690s) What role do you think that has in all of this? ### 11:33 seg-0022 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0022` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0022](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0022) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=693s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=693s) Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right. I think that if Russia wins this war, then America is threatened economically. We also have to remember the major issue is trade, right? So we discussed this last time, but I think it's worth to remember what we discussed last class, which is there are two competing theories of trade in the world. So the British and the Americans subscribe to the Mackinder thesis, which is to say that... What is that called? Sorry? The Mackinder thesis. The Mackinder -Hartland thesis. M -A -C -K -I -N -D -E -R. Mackinder. Heartland thesis. And the idea is that America and Britain are naval powers. And so as long as there's conflict in the Eurasian heartland, America and Britain can control global trade, especially energy, because the sea is just the safest way to get oil from one place to the other. But let's just say that there's peace now in the Eurasian continent because Russia has become the hegemon. ### 12:41 seg-0023 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0023` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0023](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0023) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=761s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=761s) And Iran and China are brought into Russia's orbit. Well, now you can negate American naval power. You don't have to trade through the sea. You can just build railways throughout the Eurasian continent. And so Africa, Europe, Asia would all be unified in an economic bloc. And this would bankrupt both the Americans and the British. And that's absolutely the worst case scenario for the American empire, because not only do they depend on... energy to sustain their hegemony, but they also depend on control of the seaways. ### 13:18 seg-0024 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0024` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0024](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0024) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=798s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=798s) Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah, I recall that. I just didn't recall the name of it. So you suspect then that in 2026, possibly soon, that the Ukrainian front lines will start to crumble. I know they still have to get through Kramatorsk, which is a fairly large urban center in the Donbas. And I think there's another one as well, which... The Ukrainians, I think they're still pretty well established there. Do you suspect, because I've heard that they're now projecting that it would take Russia at least till the end of 2026 to capture all of the Donbas. ### 13:57 seg-0025 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0025` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0025](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0025) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=837s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=837s) Right. So we have to remember that the Russians fight war in a very slow methodical manner because they used primarily trans warfare. You know, we're so used to the American shock and awe system of aerial bombardment, right, that we saw in 2003, Iraq. But the Russians, they are a land -based army. They move very, very slow. And Ukraine is the largest country in Europe. So as you say, it's going to take a very long time for the Russians to really conquer the Donbas. But the issue is that the Ukrainian morale has collapsed. The Ukrainians don't have the will to fight. The decision rates are extremely high. Also, the big news in Ukraine, of course, is this corruption scandal that has engulfed the Zelensky regime. It turns out that the people around Zelensky has been stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the Ukrainian people. So if you're on the front lines of Ukraine, and you're Ukrainian, first of all, you don't want to be there. ### 14:58 seg-0026 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0026` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0026](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0026) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=898s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=898s) You were basically kidnapped to put in the front lines. Second of all, this war is completely lost. The Russians are advancing everywhere. And third of all, the people you're fighting for, Zelensky and his people, they're just thieves. Zelensky and his family is in London. All his kids are there. And worst case scenario, Zelensky just hops on a plane and spends the rest of his life in London. So if you're a Ukrainian man in the front lines, why are you putting your life at stake? ### 15:27 seg-0027 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0027` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0027](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0027) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=927s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=927s) Yeah. And you'd have to wonder then, what would they attempt to do to rekindle the Ukrainian fighting spirit? They would need some kind of major event. And there was an incident today. It's claimed that there were four military -grade drones that were circling around Zelensky's plane, or at least the time when he was supposed to be there in Ireland. Now, we've heard this before, that these drone sightings in Europe, and later it comes out that it was civilian hobbyist drones or some military conducting an exercise. But I almost wonder if they're not planning to do something that could potentially, you know, be like a false flag or something to reinvigorate things. Because like you're saying, with all this corruption stuff, and you're sitting there on the front lines, you've been forced, even the guys who are pointing the guns at you to make sure that you don't turn around and retreat, they got to be ### 16:30 seg-0028 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0028` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0028](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0028) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=990s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=990s) asking themselves, like, how long are they going to perceive this as a war worth fighting unless there's some catalyst event that brings things back? Have you had any thoughts about what they might do to try to, you know, fan the flames? ### 16:50 seg-0029 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0029` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0029](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0029) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1010s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1010s) Yeah. So I think Ukraine is lost. Project Ukraine is lost. Zelensky is expandable. The problem though is, who do you bring in to replace him? Because like no one's going to, you know, take over him. Because if Zelensky is assassinated, the next person in place will also probably get assassinated. So even though Zelensky is expandable, right now there's no one to replace him. So the... ### 17:14 seg-0030 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0030` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0030](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0030) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1034s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1034s) You don't think Zeluzhny, Valery Zeluzhny in, that's who they're talking about, the former AFU commander. Right. So I don't know who he is. I don't know much about his background. He's the former like commander of the, he was the guy who was exiled, not really exiled, but he went and took a post in England. Like he was the head of the Ukrainian forces for the first three years. ### 17:38 seg-0031 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0031` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0031](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0031) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1058s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1058s) Yeah. Yeah. And he and Zelensky had a falling out. But then let me ask you this, what would he do different from Zelensky? ### 17:45 seg-0032 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0032` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0032](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0032) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1065s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1065s) I'm not sure. I mean, maybe it's more of a popularity play. Maybe it's more of a, he would be more well received by the people because a lot of people perceive Zelensky to be illegitimate because he's overextended his stay and imposed martial law and hasn't had elections. And he's also a bit of a liability because he knows so much, you know? So this is why I think maybe they would just get rid of him. And that would be Europe's cast this belly to rally for more war. ### 18:14 seg-0033 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0033` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0033](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0033) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1094s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1094s) I don't know. So I think that again, if you're in the front lines as Ukrainian, you're completely disillusioned with the entire regime because it's, I mean, the problem isn't Zelensky, the problem is the entire elite because most of them have fled the country, right? And they're taking like billions of dollars in corrupt wealth with them and they're not coming back. So what are you really fighting for? I mean, like you're probably better off with the Russians at the end of the day. I hate to say this. I hate to say this. So right now the issue is how do you bring NATO into the war? So I think there'll be false flags, but the false flags won't be to rally the Ukrainian soldiers because it's a lost cause. The false flag will be, will be bringing the Polish and possibly the Baltic states as well. There might be a false flag in Transnistria. That's extremely vulnerable. ### 18:58 seg-0034 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0034` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0034](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0034) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1138s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1138s) You know, Moldova, recent hand election and a very pro -EU politician came to power. And so we can expect a lot of conflict between Moldova and Ukraine. And so I think in 2026. So I think there are lots of flashpoints throughout Europe. But I think it's very likely that 2026 you'll have a couple of false flags and they will escalate the rearmament of Europe, especially Germany. ### 19:25 seg-0035 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0035` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0035](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0035) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1165s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1165s) And so you think that the Polish population, obviously we know they've been militarizing over the past couple years throughout this entire process, purchasing large amounts of weapons and just getting on a general war footing, putting up signs, you know, near the border with Ukraine, you know, military vehicle signs and things of that nature. How would they sell that to their populations? ### 19:51 seg-0036 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0036` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0036](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0036) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1191s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1191s) Look, during World War II, the Germans and the Russians had something called the Ribbentrop -Molotov Pact, where the two countries decided to split Poland up. And after they did so, they massacred thousands and thousands of Polish nobility, Polish officers. And this is embedded in the memory of Polish citizens. They are afraid of Russia. They see Russia as an existential threat. The Polish have been the most enthusiastic supporters of Ukraine. In fact, you can argue that Russian Ukraine, it's really, it's really Polish. Culturally, linguistically, historically, it's really part of Poland. So, Poland has this historical history and historical grudge against Russia. And they know that if Ukraine falls, Poland's probably next. So, that's why Poland may call volunteers to reinforce the front lines in 2026. You know, they're already calling for half a million volunteers in Poland to reinforce Ukraine. And so, I think that will probably be the first wave. The US involvement ### 21:03 seg-0037 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0037` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0037](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0037) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1263s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1263s) in this NATO intervention, then, it seems like Trump is trying to keep this conflict at an arm's length, while, of course, being one of the primary benefactors to it in terms of the provision of various materiel and, and still, you know, funding to Ukraine and the war effort. How do you think the US remains in the fray and how might that diverge from their other plans in Venezuela, Iran, China, things like that? ### 21:37 seg-0038 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0038` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0038](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0038) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1297s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1297s) Yeah, so, if you just look at history, we know exactly what empires do in a period of decline. What they do is they cannibalize their allies, right? Because that's the easiest thing to do. So, if you go back to the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, what Athens was doing was, to finance the war, they start to behave like a mafia state and collect more taxes and tribute from their allies, which causes their tributes to revolt. And it's a very similar thing to what we're seeing in Europe as well. You know, the American empire is in decline, they're heavily in debt and they want the Europeans to continue to finance the American empire and you can do that through multiple mechanisms. The first mechanism is to charge the Europeans a lot for liquefied natural gas, right? So, right now, the Europeans are paying 50 % more for American LNG than they used to for Russian gas. ### 22:33 seg-0039 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0039` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0039](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0039) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1353s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1353s) The Nord Stream pipeline was blown up. We don't know who, but we can suspect it was the Americans. And that did a lot of damage to the European economy, especially the German economy. Right now, the German economy is really suffering because it no longer has access to cheap Russian energy, okay? So that's number one. You force the Europeans to pay more for energy. Second is that you force the Europeans to pay more for the cost of defense. So, right now, they are obligated to up their GDP spending to spend more on defense. And the Europeans don't really have the cash for this. They themselves have an aging population. Their economies are really suffering. And if they were to invest more in defense, that would mean that they would have to cut social services. And this would destroy the social contract between the European leaders and their citizens, okay? That's number two. Number three is you have massive immigration in Europe caused by America's war on terror. ### 23:35 seg-0040 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0040` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0040](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0040) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1415s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1415s) So, America launched these silly wars, pointless wars in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, that's forcing millions of refugees into Europe. So, it's these Americans who, you know, fight these wars for the industrial complex. They benefit. And it's Europe that has to suffer the consequences. And now, number four is what's going to happen is that America's going to force the Europeans to die on the front lines of Ukraine. So, what's happening is that America's cannibalizing Europe, the youth of Europe, the wealth of Europe, the future of Europe, and there's nothing Europe can do about it. And we've seen this again throughout history. It's a very common pattern. So, ### 24:13 seg-0041 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0041` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0041](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0041) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1453s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1453s) do you think Europe will attempt to rebel against this? And is that even an option? Like, would Russia, Russia seems to be open to the prospect of conducting business. But, at the same time, why are they going to invest billions more in, you know, restarting this infrastructure if it could just be potentially shut down in the future once again? So, Europe really is in a difficult spot where, like you said, they're beholden to the mafia don that is the dying U.S. empire which has as its mandate to try to remain unilateral force dictating in the world the preeminent global power. And that is, the sun is setting, it appears. And so, will Europe revolt or will they continue to, to be taken advantage of? ### 25:11 seg-0042 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0042` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0042](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0042) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1511s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1511s) Yeah. So, the pattern is this. Right now, the entire European leadership has been co -opted by the American empire. They owe their jobs to the American empire. They themselves are not very popular in their countries, right? They're not popular Macron in France, Merce in Germany. There's not one ### 25:30 seg-0043 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0043` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0043](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0043) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1530s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1530s) popular leader in Europe. ### 25:31 seg-0044 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0044` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0044](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0044) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1531s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1531s) They're not popular. They're not popular. So, they're beholden to the American empire. And, if they were to go against the American empire, they'd be gone because they're expandable. They're not popular. So, what's gonna happen is Europe is gonna sleepwalk into war in Ukraine. It'll be mission creep. It might be volunteers and special forces to start off with. But, eventually, they'll introduce a draft. And, as this war drags on, Europeans will lose more and more war, which will instigate a political revolution in Europe. You have civil war. You have political tumult. The regimes throughout Europe will be overthrown. And, these new regimes will be much more amenable to Russia. They'll be much more pro -Russia. So, eventually, what will happen is, eventually, I think, in five to ten years' time, an alliance between Russia and Russia to counter the Anglo -American Empire. That, I think, is the most likely scenario. But, you'll have like ### 26:27 seg-0045 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0045` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0045](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0045) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1587s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1587s) five to ten years where Germans lose a lot of soldiers in Ukraine first before they eventually rebel against the Empire. ### 26:34 seg-0046 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0046` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0046](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0046) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1594s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1594s) So, because of NATO and Article 5, wouldn't the United States in some capacity be forced to come to the defense of Europe throughout this period of time? Right. ### 26:48 seg-0047 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0047` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0047](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0047) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1608s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1608s) So, Article 5 states that if a European state, a NATO state, is under attack, then America is compelled to intervene. But, remember, Russia's not going to attack Europe. It doesn't want to. It doesn't have to because Europe's going to send all these volunteer soldiers into the Ukraine front lines to die. So, if you're Russia, that's the ideal scenario because you've already established a trap in Ukraine, right? You've got this drone, these drone reconnaissance flying around. You've got very motivated infantry. You've got artillery warfare. You've controlled the terrain. So, if, you know, a million soldiers go into Ukraine, they're going to die. So, like, why would you go and invade Europe? That makes no sense. ### 27:27 seg-0048 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0048` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0048](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0048) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1647s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1647s) It's true. I mean, there is the issue of decision -making centers, as the Russians call them, being inside Europe. And you have Europe seemingly trying to start a fight because recently, I think it was the NATO chief had said that they're considering preemptive attacks against Russia. I think he said in passing, I don't think it's the official policy. And the extent of what he was talking about, whether that just meant cyber warfare or information warfare, is unknown. But it seems as though the Europeans would be aware of this and they would understand that they would need to provoke Russia into attacking them in order for the United States to uphold its end of the deal. ### 28:14 seg-0049 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0049` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0049](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0049) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1694s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1694s) So, these past four years, we've seen NATO reconnaissance, NATO intelligence, NATO weaponry, NATO intelligence, NATO special forces. You look at the curse offensive, it's definitely NATO command and control, right? It's NATO that planned the offensive, that instigated the offensive. And there were a lot of NATO special forces in the curse offensive. And so, NATO has done everything possible to provoke Russia into a wider conflict. And Putin and Russia have shown tremendous A lot of it is because Russia is winning this war. Their economy isn't really that affected by this war. So, they can wait this out and they know that eventually Europe will implode because all these political and economic crises will be in Europe. So, Russia has shown tremendous restraint and I think they will continue to do so. But Europe is losing patience because time is on Russia's side. Interesting. ### 29:15 seg-0050 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0050` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0050](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0050) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1755s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1755s) So, moving to what's happening in the southern command area as they call it in the United States. What's your take on Venezuela? I think you were talking with Danny Haiphong earlier and you were deliberating what could possibly be the reasons for the United States posturing in the way that it is towards Venezuela. When you zoom out, what is your understanding of why they're doing this? ### 29:45 seg-0051 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0051` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0051](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0051) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1785s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1785s) Yeah. So, I've been perplexed like everyone else for the past two months because it makes absolutely no sense. There's been a massive naval buildup in the Caribbean and it seems as though Trump wants regime change, okay? But there's certain facts that are confusing. Fact number one is that even though there's a naval blockade, even though there's a closure of Venezuela airspace, Venezuela is still allowed to export its oil to China. So, its economy is still intact. That's really strange. You know, if you are about to invade a country, the first thing you do is impose an economic embargo and strangle the nation's economy to cause public discontent and then you follow up with like airstrikes. So, the fact that Trump has not done the first step in the escalation ladder and basically embargoed the entire economy of Venezuela, you know that they're getting ready to do that? Right. So, if they do do that, then we can anticipate regime change. ### 30:45 seg-0052 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0052` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0052](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0052) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1845s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1845s) But they haven't done that yet. So, that's really confusing to me. Is it possible that they're not trying to piss off the Chinese? But, I mean, if you invade the country, you piss off the Chinese anyway. China and Russia have been explicit and said that they will not interfere in the Western Hemisphere because that's American territory, the Monroe Doctrine, right? So, both China and Russia are explicit in this and Venezuela has been calling for Russian and Chinese help for a long time and they're not coming. So, again, it doesn't make sense to me why they haven't embargoed Venezuela yet because that's number one. And I'm sorry ### 31:18 seg-0053 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0053` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0053](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0053) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1878s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1878s) to keep cutting you off because I know you want to do the list but I just got to say, you know, it's interesting this whole Monroe Doctrine idea as if the U.S. is entitled to just have the entire you know, Western Hemisphere. It's kind of silly when you think about it because they're in the process of encircling China and Russia in Europe and in the Middle East anyways. ### 31:43 seg-0054 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0054` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0054](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0054) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1903s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1903s) Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. So, number two is that Trump has talked about expanding this war to the Mexican cartels and Colombia and you're just like, what is he doing here? Because if you want to attack Venezuela, you got to focus on the task at hand. Why are you switching your forces to fight Mexican cartels and to Colombia? He's just saying that wherever there's drug running, drug smuggling, we're going to attack. So, he's basically overstretching himself which is just really weird. So, so here, here's my understanding of the situation, okay? So, Pete Hexheff had a meeting with the military generals in late September and he said, number one, we have to be a warrior. We have to return to being warriors. No more stupid rules of engagement. You know, just kill your enemies and show no mercy, okay? And that's what they're doing in the Caribbean. And so, you can make the argument that what they're ### 32:46 seg-0055 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0055` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0055](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0055) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1966s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=1966s) doing is they're just implementing policies that were announced in late September and what they're really trying to do is they're trying to revamp the American military to be more loyal to Trump. Remember during in The Apprentice, he was there for like over 10 years but Trump would have, every episode would have his content running around doing these stupid tasks to show their loyalty and enthusiasm to Trump. And that's what the Caribbean mission might be about. Like, how loyal are you to Trump? Will you follow the commander -in -chief's orders regardless of national law, right? So, that's one possibility. Another possibility is that let's think about who Trump really hates, who Trump thinks his enemies are. Well, Trump thinks his enemy is a deep state, okay? Not China, not Russia, not Venezuela, but the American deep state. Why? Because in 2000, sorry, 2020, when Trump was running for a second term against Biden, he, in his mind, won, right? ### 33:46 seg-0056 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0056` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0056](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0056) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2026s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2026s) The election night. And then like, you know, a couple weeks later because of something called the blue tide of all these, you know, mail -in ballots in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, he lost. So, from his perspective, the deep state stole the election from him. So, if he wants to stay in power, and he has to stay in power because if he leaves office in 2028, they're going to come after him and his family, right? And he needs to go after the deep state, okay? So, now his thinking is, how do I undercut the deep state? Well, where does the deep state get its power? Well, it gets most of its power because of these illicit activities through drug running, through human trafficking, through selling weapons, right? And so, if you can disrupt the global drug trade, which finances the CIA, then you severely weaken the CIA, and then you can slowly go after the CIA. ### 34:43 seg-0057 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0057` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0057](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0057) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2083s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2083s) You know, Project 2025 is really about revamping the federal bureaucracy and replacing the global deep state with loyalists to Trump. So, I would argue that's actually much more a likely motivation for Trump to undercut his enemies within the CIA and replace people more loyal to him. And you do that by basically strangling global supply routes, okay? So, you could argue, okay, that Maduro understands what's happening. And that's why the CIA has been rallying its people and saying, we want peace with Trump. I'm perfectly willing to negotiate. Let's go for peace. And so, I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm saying there are these two possibilities. The first possibility is that Trump wants regime change in Venezuela because he wants access to the oil, and he can use the oil to collateralize the American debt, okay? That's the most mainstream explanation. But another explanation is that Trump is using this Venezuela ### 35:44 seg-0058 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0058` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0058](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0058) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2144s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2144s) thing as a pretext in order to have his military disrupt, undercut global supply networks throughout the Caribbean and undercut the power of the deep state, okay? So, we'll know as this thing progresses, but I think it's much more likely the latter. And I think because of that, I think that we'll have continued hostility in the Caribbean, but we won't see a full -scale regime change. And the litmus test, of course, is whether or not Trump embargoes Venezuela oil from China. ### 36:19 seg-0059 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0059` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0059](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0059) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2179s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2179s) Contrary to popular belief, in the apocalypse, most people aren't going to die by the hands of marauders. In fact, you're probably going to die from disease. This is why you need antibiotics. The problem is getting them requires a prescription. Well, today's sponsor is Jace Medical. They've created a revolutionary service that allows you to get prescription medications like antibiotics with relative ease, hassle -free. This will be worth more than gold in an emergency for somebody who needs them. So do yourself a favor and take your prepping to the next level while you still can. Check out the link in the description below. And now, back to the video. It's an interesting theory. I mean, it's definitely, I don't know if I'm sold on it because of, what's her name, Maria Machado? Yes. So she was given the Nobel Peace Prize by the Nobel Commission or whatever, you know, agency gives out these peace prizes, which I ### 37:20 seg-0060 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0060` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0060](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0060) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2240s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2240s) presume wouldn't want to pander to Trump because that basically served to him on a silver platter the justification needed to go and depose this dictator. So, I don't know, it seems like if they didn't, it seems like something is like that they're a part of it, that they're part of it. The deep state wants Venezuela as opposed to, I get what you're saying, though, like, because some of these CIA ties, they run really deep and one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. And obviously, Venezuela isn't the biggest hub for drug trafficking, but it's a potential gateway, as you're saying, into these other areas that perhaps are. But I just wonder if what you're saying is true, then that would mean that, the Nobel Commission or whatever is on the side of Trump because they've basically now set it up so that Maduro looks really bad because, I mean, what are the odds that on the year that he's about to go into Venezuela, she wins the Nobel Peace Prize? ### 38:29 seg-0061 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0061` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0061](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0061) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2309s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2309s) Like it just, you know, to me, that's pretty suspicious. Right. ### 38:33 seg-0062 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0062` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0062](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0062) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2313s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2313s) So I think Trump's greatest trick is his intentions are never clear. He seems like a bumbling buffoon but if he's a bumbling buffoon, how is he able to win the presidency twice? Okay. So I think that depending on your faction, you're able to perceive Trump in a way that benefits you, right? So Rubio is both National Security Advisor as well as Secretary of State and he wants regime change in Venezuela. He's very explicit about that. So you can perceive the Trump regime in a way that convinces you that Trump is committed to regime change, okay? And that's his greatest trick. He is a cipher. He is, he looks different to different people. ### 39:20 seg-0063 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0063` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0063](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0063) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2360s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2360s) Yeah, well, we know that, you know, the neocons definitely want it for their own reasons. I mean, what about the play of, I know China gets quite a bit of oil from there. They get like a million barrels a day or something. ### 39:35 seg-0064 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0064` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0064](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0064) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2375s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2375s) About, yes. Yeah, about. And that's 80 % of Venezuela's exports, by the way. China is Venezuela's main customer. China is keeping Venezuela alive, yes. ### 39:46 seg-0065 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0065` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0065](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0065) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2386s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2386s) Right. And we know that there was that whole thing with the Panama Canal recently where they wanted to basically make sure that China didn't control that. So is this just a part of a bigger play to try to weaken China? ### 40:01 seg-0066 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0066` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0066](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0066) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2401s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2401s) Right. So in 2026, I think the big surprise will be a major rapprochement between the United States and China. There's four meetings scheduled between Trump and Xi in 2026. The big meeting is a state visit in April where Trump will visit Beijing. And I think that will signal a major rapprochement between the United States and China. The reality is that these two countries are heavily independent on each other. China needs the United States for its market access, right? So China exports most of its goods to the United States. And the United States needs China to buy up U.S. debt, okay? So I think in April, a deal was struck where China agrees to buy up more U.S. debt because right now, a lot of Chinese consumers are buying gold rather than U.S. dollars in exchange for the United States recognizing Taiwan as an inseparable part of China and opposing Taiwan independence. But ### 41:06 seg-0067 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0067` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0067](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0067) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2466s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2466s) they're still, like, supplying them with weapons, though, aren't they? ### 41:11 seg-0068 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0068` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0068](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0068) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2471s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2471s) And they're seemingly getting the Japanese all riled up. Right. ### 41:16 seg-0069 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0069` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0069](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0069) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2476s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2476s) So for the Chinese regime, what matters is face. So as long as Trump says, I oppose Taiwan independence, that's what they want. And if the United States continues to supply Taiwan with weapons, that doesn't really factor into the equation because China is not intent on a military conquest of Taiwan anyway. It just wants Taiwan to recognize the supremacy of the Chinese state. That means that Taiwan needs to withdraw from the WHO. It needs to withdraw from the IOC. I mean, that's all China cares about. Could it be that they're trying to just get some leverage in those negotiations by doing what they're doing in Venezuela? ### 41:54 seg-0070 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0070` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0070](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0070) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2514s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2514s) Because if they were, by that time, by the time that meeting happened to, you know, I know they think it's going to be a walk in the park. I don't think it is. I think that there's going to be a lot of resistance to a U.S. takeover of that country. But let's just say they get lucky. They either, you know, exile Maduro or they kill him. They would have control over the oil. They could use that as leverage in negotiations with China, I suppose. ### 42:22 seg-0071 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0071` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0071](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0071) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2542s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2542s) I think that's exactly it. For the United States, your biggest concern are Russia and China. You know, Trump's been trying for the past year to create a ceasefire in Ukraine. Is that going to work? And he knows it's not going to work. So now he has to pivot to China. And so he needs to reestablish the economic relationship between the United States and China. He basically needs the Chinese to agree to buy up U.S. debt. And right now in the world, there's only one nation that could possibly financially sustain the American debt, and that's China. I don't put a lot of stock into Trump meetings after we've seen what happened in Alaska. ### 42:56 seg-0072 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0072` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0072](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0072) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2576s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2576s) It was talked up. There was this huge spectacle. Everybody thought the war was over. And here we are. Situation still hasn't been resolved. Not really one step closer. I mean, it appeared as though there was something happening and that has now appeared to fall through. How do we know that they're not just both playing a shell game? Because at the end of the day, there still is a containment strategy around China. And the Chinese are not naive to what's going on. They wrote the book of the art of war. So we can't take at face value that they are not making extensive preparations to militarily confront whatever form the adversary might present itself. I'm skeptical as to that hypothesis that they're going to be able to make a deal. I get your debt hypothesis. That's probably the best argument I've heard for it. But I'm still skeptical. ### 44:01 seg-0074 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0074` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0074](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0074) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2641s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2641s) Okay. So point number one is that Putin and Trump met in Alaska in mid -August. We don't actually know what they agreed on doing, right? I mean, we assume that they wanted peace in Ukraine. But let's just say like they just agree on something else, right? Which is like they agreed to split the world amongst themselves. So Trump takes the Western Hemisphere. He's allowed to do whatever he wants in Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua. And Putin is allowed to do whatever he wants in Europe. So wouldn't that be much more plausible than saying, okay, let's find peace in Ukraine? Because from Putin and Trump's perspective, their common enemy is the global deep state that runs the world, right? And the global deep state, you can also think of it as transnational capital. And the point of transnational capital is that it degrades a nation's sovereignty. It basically steals a nation's resources and then transfers it to these money laundering centers in London, in Paris, Hong Kong, Dubai, New York. ### 45:00 seg-0075 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0075` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0075](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0075) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2700s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2700s) So if you're Putin and you want to create a strong Russia, then your great enemy is transnational capital. If you're Trump, you also think that transnational capital is your enemy. If you're Xi, you also think transnational capital is your enemy. So these three presidents actually benefit more from working with each other to establish, restore their national sovereignty than against each other. So I don't know what they agreed in Alaska, but we have to remember that right after Alaska, Trump started to send warships to Venezuela. And then Putin started to send drones against Poland. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's an implicit agreement between the two to basically split the world up and have their own spheres of influence. Interesting. ### 45:45 seg-0076 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0076` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0076](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0076) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2745s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2745s) So this transnational, is there actually people behind this? I mean, we always hear about the global shadowy cabal. Who is this that they're resisting? ### 45:58 seg-0077 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0077` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0077](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0077) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2758s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2758s) So transnational capital is actually much more nebulous. But you can argue that the main representative of transnational capital is the city of London. That's what a lot of people say. I give a lot of credence to that. I would also point out that there's a very strong correlation between transnational capital and secret societies. Because the reason why is your transnational capital and you operate behind the scenes because transnational capital is going to fund the most popular lucrative activities, right? Which includes drug running, which includes, you know, arms sales, which includes human trafficking, basically the worst, most criminal activities transnational capital will fund because it's most profitable. So now you have a problem of how do you maintain secrecy? How do you create trust among the different participants? And how do you enable coordination among these different parties? And so I think that the best solution is secret societies. So the Jesuits, the Freemasons. So, I mean, when people say the city of London is in charge, that makes sense. ### 47:07 seg-0078 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0078` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0078](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0078) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2827s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2827s) If you say, secret societies are in charge, that makes sense. I prefer the more general term transnational capital. ### 47:12 seg-0079 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0079` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0079](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0079) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2832s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2832s) Yeah. And it absolves you of any like sort of, you know, criticisms. Oh, you're being, you know, covertly anti -Semitic or implying it's the Rothschilds or, you know, the Ashkenazim or whatever. But that presumes though that Trump would be outside this orbit. And that's just something I can't believe that these guys are, you know, somehow rebelling against that. Like, I just, it, I don't buy the idea that Trump is outside the deep state. I just can't wrap my head around that. Maybe Putin to a certain degree, but even that whole deal with Kushner and Witkoff is rather suspicious. He's got oligarchs that he's trying to appease. Trump is trying to appease oligarchs. I mean, maybe there's some 4D chess being played, but, or it's just a egomaniacal individual who is just riffing it and likes to be the focus of attention. I mean, or maybe he is like this grand chess master. ### 48:11 seg-0080 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0080` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0080](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0080) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2891s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2891s) I don't know. So, you're more optimistic than me. ### 48:15 seg-0082 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0082` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0082](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0082) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2895s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2895s) That's a great point. So, this is what I'll say. These different societies have different layers. Okay? So, if you look at Freemasonry, there's 33 different degrees. So, they all have this hierarchy in place. At the very top, okay, and this is really important to understand is the bloodlines. So, you have to be born in a certain bloodline if you want to reach the top of these societies. Now, you could have tremendous power within these societies like Trump does. I mean, Trump is definitely part of different societies. He has structured training, you know. So, yeah, he's definitely part of these societies. The problem, though, is, as you say, he is an egomaniac. He's a narcissist. He considers himself as a messiah. So, is he happy being number two? Is he happy being number three? Well, Bill Clinton is, Obama is, but not Trump, right? So, he's not born into the bloodlines. He's not one of the 13 families. ### 49:05 seg-0083 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0083` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0083](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0083) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2945s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2945s) And so, the only thing he can do is subvert the order if he wants to become number one. And that's why I think it's happening. I think he is part of these societies. I think that there's a lot of, you know, cross -pollination between his people and these societies. And that's why it's so hard to read him because he's playing all sides. He, I mean, like, he has, like, multiple personality disorder where, with a different person, you see a different Trump. ### 49:31 seg-0084 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0084` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0084](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0084) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2971s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2971s) And so, just as an aside, is there any secret society connection that extends into China that's a part of this global network? And I mean, obviously, you know, for your own safety, I don't want you to feel obliged to say anything you don't want to. So, the concept of secret society exists everywhere, right? ### 49:55 seg-0085 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0085` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0085](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0085) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2995s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=2995s) Because wherever you have a mass society, you always have a coordination problem. So, when you have, so, the way to coordinate is a bureaucracy. The problem with bureaucracies is that the departments are compartmentalized. So, it's very hard to get things done. And if you are of the noble families, you still need to preserve control over the bureaucracy, right? So, you do that through secret societies. So, China does have secret societies. The problem for the Chinese is they're not actually linked up with this global network network of secret societies, right? They're not, you know? So, we've been seeing these past, you know, few years a lot of more linkages. So, if you look at the Epson files, you will see a lot of linkages. I'm not going to go into details because I'm in China. I can't name names, but if you actually just go into the Epson files, then you'll see that there are a lot of linkages. ### 50:50 seg-0086 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0086` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0086](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0086) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3050s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3050s) Well, I know there's been some prominent CEOs who've fell off the radar. ### 50:56 seg-0087 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0087` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0087](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0087) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3056s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3056s) I won't give any names, but people can use their imagination. I will also say, I'm an idiot. ### 51:02 seg-0088 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0088` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0088](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0088) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3062s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3062s) Think about this, okay? He promises to release the Epson files. He comes to the office and doesn't release the Epson files. Everyone's pissed at him, and the Congress is going to force him to release the Epson files, and he is resistant. You know, he goes after Thomas Massie. He goes after Majority Taylor Greene. Some of the files are released, and the person who is the first to speak sacrifice is not Trump, not any of Trump's loyalists, but Larry Summers, who is a deep state operative. You can argue that he's probably more powerful than Bill Clinton. So how does that happen? I mean, if Trump's a complete idiot, if he doesn't know what he's doing, then how is it that, like, you know, when you go after Trump, you go hit someone like Hillary Summers? And it's possible, you know, that John Podesta, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, they're all next. ### 51:54 seg-0089 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0089` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0089](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0089) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3114s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3114s) Interesting. Very interesting perspective. Now, last time we talked, going to the Middle East, you had said that you thought that things in Iran were going to flare up. It seems to be pretty quiet there right now, although the Iranians are still incredibly vigilant. What do you think the reason is for the delay? And do you still stand by your prediction that you feel that things are going to escalate in that theater as well? Okay. ### 52:25 seg-0090 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0090` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0090](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0090) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3145s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3145s) So, my understanding you don't want to go to war against Iran because you will lose this war. You want the United States to go to war against Iran. And so, you need to maneuver Trump into declaring war against Iran. And so, but now Trump is distracted in Venezuela and he's distracted elsewhere as well. So, the bottleneck is actually Trump. It's not Israel. Israel wants this war to start as soon as possible because in order for them to establish Pact Judaica, for them to completely control the Middle East and achieve the greater Israel project, which they believe is a prophecy, they need to destroy Iran. And they can't do it themselves in the Americans flow after Iran. So, from an Israeli perspective, the problem is Trump. From an Iranian perspective, you know that ultimately your enemy is not Israel. Your ultimate enemy is the American Empire. So, it doesn't do you no good to stage a ### 53:26 seg-0091 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0091` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0091](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0091) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3206s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3206s) war against America right now because America will not surrender and America can keep on reinforcing its forces until it destroys Iran. So, what Iran needs to do is coordinate with Russia so that perhaps when Russia is ready to go against Odessa and Cuba and Nicaragua, now is the time to strike because the American Empire is off balance. So, it's really a question of timing, right? You know you're going to go to war against America eventually because America needs to control the Strait of Hormuz. It wants the oil reserves of Iran. By destroying Iran, it screws over both China and Russia. So, eventually, you know America is going to come, but you want to time it away that America is most vulnerable when it's off balance so that you can strike that killer punch. So, you think that you think Iran is going to go on the initiative? I think so. I think if they close off the Strait of Hormuz, it will compel an American invasion. ### 54:29 seg-0092 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0092` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0092](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0092) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3269s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3269s) That is that is Iran's trump card. ### 54:33 seg-0093 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0093` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0093](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0093) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3273s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3273s) So, it seems like we could see a coordination then. You're saying, correct me if I'm wrong, Venezuela, they they take the bait. The Americans take the bait in Venezuela and this could be what Russia and Iran are hoping for that they go for them to kind of take attention away. Exactly. And then Russia makes a move and then concurrently you have the Iranians make a move. ### 54:58 seg-0094 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0094` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0094](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0094) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3298s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3298s) That's right. So, yeah. So, the game is this. If America strikes Venezuela, it's now pot committed and it's going to be mission clear. So, they strike Venezuela, they occupy some territory. The Venezuelans start to engage in guerrilla warfare. Cuba, Nicaragua reinforces the Venezuelans. The entire South America turns against the Americans. The Americans are now forced to send more troops into South America. It becomes a basically a thumbs to fire for America. And then Russia goes offensive and starts to threaten Poland. Now, the Europeans are forced to go against the Russians. The Russians have nuclear weapons. So, there's very little you can do. It'll be a war of attrition. And now will be a perfect time for Iran to strike and close off the short of Hormuz. Because when you do that, you cut off Israel, you cut off the Gulf states. You basically start to force America to be overextended. ### 55:56 seg-0095 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0095` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0095](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0095) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3356s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3356s) It seems like Iran is, at least with their axis of resistance as it's called, were very reluctant to, to muster all their forces and bring them to bear when arguably they were in the best situation to do so when they were at their, their, their strongest. So, you suspect that they will close off the Strait of Hormuz and that will be the offensive maneuver they take or will there be a more direct kinetic attack against Israel? So, ### 56:31 seg-0096 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0096` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0096](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0096) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3391s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3391s) Iran doesn't want to provoke Israel because Israel has nuclear weapons and Israel has something called nuclear weapons. Israel will use nuclear weapons. Of all the countries in the world, the country that is most likely to use nuclear weapons in a conflict is Israel because it has the most to lose and it is most fanatical about preserving its integrity. So, Iran, and Iran doesn't really see Israel as the ultimate enemy. It sees America as the ultimate enemy. So, it does Israel, it does Iran no good to provoke a fight with Israel. Iran wants to draw America into a war and you do that by closing off the Strait of Homs. ### 57:05 seg-0097 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0097` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0097](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0097) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3425s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3425s) Do you think Iran will pursue nuclear weapons? Will any nation help them with that? And, I guess, three questions. What will the Chinese role be in assisting them? Will they assist them like they did Pakistan or will it just be Iran on its own? ### 57:24 seg-0098 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0098` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0098](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0098) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3444s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3444s) So, Iran is the Persian Empire. It goes back a long, long time, like at least 3,000 years. And, it considers itself as the center of world civilization, of human civilization. It's extremely proud. It's extremely resilient. So, it doesn't want Russian troops and Chinese troops in Iran because, like, after the war is over, how do you get rid of those soldiers, right? You don't want to become a vassal state to Russia and China. That's number one. Number two is nuclear weapons does you no good in a war against America because, let's just say that you go fall in and you try to produce as many nuclear weapons as possible. You're going to produce what, 10, 100? America has thousands. America will always have escalation dominance in a war. And so, like, and also, America is invading you. You're not invading America. So, like, you know, if nuclear weapons are used, you just shoot yourself in the foot, right? ### 58:23 seg-0099 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0099` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0099](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0099) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3503s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3503s) I mean, like, why would you use nuclear weapons? Well, I guess the idea would be that they could hold Israel for ransom. ### 58:29 seg-0100 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0100` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0100](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0100) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3509s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3509s) If they had nuclear weapons and the Americans used their nuclear weapons against Iran, they probably wouldn't have the ICBMs to reach the US, but they could potentially hit Israel. I guess that would be the idea. ### 58:43 seg-0101 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0101` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0101](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0101) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3523s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3523s) Yeah, but the, but the, even the Americans don't really care that much about Israel, okay? I mean, like, like, like, we're under the assumption that Israel controls America, and I don't know, I don't know if that's true. I think that, um, historically, Israel has always been a palm piece in the game of empires, and, and so, again, the Iranians, their main enemy is America. Also, like, if you're able to defeat America in Iran, and it, it would involve tremendous sacrifice, but you would emerge as the leader of the Islamic world, okay? Like, you have a billion people now that see Iran as the spiritual leader of the world because they were able to defeat the great Satan, right? Um, and they could use that leverage. They could use that political capital in order to rebuild their civilization. So, you know, the Iranians are thinking far ahead. They're like, you know, okay, let's, let's just say we defeat America. ### 59:31 seg-0102 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0102` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0102](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0102) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3571s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3571s) What good does it do us? We have to defeat America in a certain way that allows us to basically become the center of the Islamic world and that's what we have to do. ### 59:47 seg-0103 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0103` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0103](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0103) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3587s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3587s) What was your take on the recent arrangement with the Saudis and Pakistan to provide nuclear guarantees? ### 59:59 seg-0104 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0104` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0104](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0104) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3599s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3599s) Yeah, so, we have to remember that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are essentially American vassal states. Um, so, um, the concern is that if America launches an invasion against Iran, how would Iran respond? Well, we have to go after Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia is most vulnerable. Remember, Saudi Arabia is a desert. Um, it's basically oil fields, right? So, the entire Saudi Arabian economy is hostage to Iranian ballistic strikes, okay? So, Iranians could wipe out the entire Saudi Arabian economy within like 24 hours. So, that's a great fear. Um, so, how do you neuter the Iranian threat against Saudi Arabia? Well, what you can do is have Saudi Arabia sign an agreement with Pakistan so that if one, if Iran attacks Saudi Arabia, Pakistan will be compelled to come to defense of Iran. And Pakistan has nuclear weapons. So, now you can justify the use of nuclear weapons, right? It doesn't necessarily have to be Pakistan that fires nuclear weapons, it could be the United States. ### 1:01:03 seg-0105 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0105` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0105](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0105) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3663s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3663s) Uh, but now you can justify using nuclear weapons. So, I think that was the, uh, that was the basic strategy behind, behind that deal. Okay. ### 1:01:13 seg-0106 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0106` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0106](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0106) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3673s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3673s) Now, if the Chinese are selling, uh, aircraft to Pakistan, though, isn't that a bit of a, you know, doesn't that put Pakistan a bit of a conflict of interest? Because it seems as though that would, you know, China would be giving them, you know, some of their fighter jets and Pakistan would be providing these guarantees against Iran, who is an ally to China. ### 1:01:41 seg-0107 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0107` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0107](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0107) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3701s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3701s) Yeah, I mean, JIPOX is very complicated. Yes, Pakistan is an ally with China. In fact, Pakistan is probably the strongest, uh, ally of China in the, in the South Asia region. So, ### 1:01:52 seg-0108 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0108` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0108](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0108) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3712s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3712s) are they more of an ally with China than the United States? Because you're saying they're also a vassal of the United States. ### 1:01:59 seg-0109 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0109` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0109](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0109) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3719s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3719s) Yeah, ### 1:01:59 seg-0110 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0110` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0110](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0110) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3719s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3719s) so, ### 1:02:00 seg-0111 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0111` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0111](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0111) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3720s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3720s) um, I mean, the elites have, the elites have no loyalty except in themselves, right? They're always playing a double game. So, we see the world in terms of nation states, but we should actually see the world in terms of, you know, this transnational elite that are always trying to figure out deals amongst themselves. We also have to remember that there's also conflict within this, this transnational elite as well. Um, so, yeah, there are different factions within Pakistan and they will want different outcomes, uh, as well. So, um, geopolitics, it's very complicated. But we have to remember, like, it's elites that control these nation states and elites have absolutely no loyalty except in themselves. And that will change their minds all the time. Well, ### 1:02:39 seg-0112 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0112` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0112](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0112) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3759s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3759s) I think that's a good point because, you know, there might be, like, 60 % support for the U.S. and 40 % very similar to what happened in Ukraine in 2014 where the population was divided, uh, with respect to, you know, which way they wanted to go. So, we tend to see these as monoliths and they're, that they're just one way or the other. But like you're saying, uh, Pakistan was one of that, those enigmas where they're kind of one way or the other. So, uh, you know, everyone else is pretty easy to figure out. India, you know, it seems as though they're starting to cozy up to Russia and BRICS uh, a lot more as well. Do you have any, any thoughts on how they fit into the global calculus of this? ### 1:03:25 seg-0113 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0113` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0113](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0113) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3805s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3805s) Yeah, so, you know, all these lesser powers, um, like India, they're trying to play both sides, right? They're trying to position themselves, um, in a way in which they can exact, um, maximum leverage from all parties. Because, if you think about it, these, um, great powers, they're trying to amass as many allies as possible, right? So, um, if they're trying to do that, then you're trying to exact as much leverage as possible in response. Okay. ### 1:03:54 seg-0114 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0114` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0114](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0114) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3834s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3834s) And, uh, let's just, I guess, conclude with your thoughts on the Indo -Pacific and, uh, how things are developing in your neck of the woods there with this, uh, issue between Japan and, and China. I don't know much about it. I know, obviously, you guys have a long history. Right. Um, and, there's a lot of bad blood there. You know, you have North Korea, whose finger is always on the trigger. You have, uh, South Korea. I think they were talking about getting nukes or, or something like that. I can't remember getting, uh, like, nuclear guarantees. Japan arming the island chains, Taiwan continuously arming. Uh, what is your thoughts on, on all of that tension in that region? ### 1:04:40 seg-0115 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0115` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0115](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0115) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3880s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3880s) Right. So, um, one of the undersecretaries for defense in the United States is Eldridge Colby. And, before the election of Donald Trump, he was very explicit. He basically said that, listen, Russia's not our enemy. China is our enemy. So, we need to pivot to East Asia. Okay, that is, that's always been, um, the belief of Eldridge Colby. He comes into the office and, right now, he is promoting an idea that, you know what, we need to focus on defense priorities. And, and he has a paper called National Defense Priorities. In which he argues, like, we need to focus more on the Western Hemisphere and let's leave East Asia to China. Okay, so that's, that may become the official, uh, stance of Americans. But, you know, America, it's a, it's an empire. It doesn't, it does not let go of power easily. So if you, if you are thinking to yourself, I'm going to move away from East Asia, how do you maintain your hegemony in East Asia? ### 1:05:35 seg-0116 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0116` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0116](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0116) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3935s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3935s) Well, you do it by creating divided war. By supporting Japan in its conflict with China. And, now that you have, you know, these two, uh, nations at each other, you, the America, can stay as the peace broker, the middleman, right? And that's the best case scenario because, guess who the two biggest debt holders of American Treasuries are? It's China and Japan, right? So, so, you want to maintain your presence in East Asia, but you don't want to, um, invest too much. So, as you are leaving in, uh, East Asia, you support the re -militarization of Japan as a counter to China. And that's why we're seeing these sort of like, um, aggressive comments from the new Japanese Prime Minister. And you know what? I live in China, the Chinese response has been extremely, extremely aggressive. So, I work in a school and we've been told by the authorities to not visit Japan. ### 1:06:32 seg-0117 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0117` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0117](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0117) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3992s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=3992s) And the language was, the language was, um, you know, when, you know, New Year's is coming up, winter vacation is coming up, and so, please listen to the four -minute tweet and avoid dangerous places like the Congo and Japan, right? The Congo and Japan. Um, Japan is the safest country in the world. so, so yeah, and, and, and like, that's a very, um, nice diplomatic saying, if you visit Japan, you spend money in Japan, you will be, uh, blacklisted in China. So, uh, we, we've seen, yeah, I mean, it's, it's pretty serious. And this is a long -term trend because, as you point out, there is a lot of historical animosity between China and Japan. And so, who benefits from this? The United States benefits from this, right? Because now, Japan needs American, uh, military technology, uh, in order to remilitarize. And so, it needs to continue to buy up U.S. ### 1:07:28 seg-0118 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0118` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0118](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0118) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4048s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4048s) Treasuries. And China now needs America, um, as a counterweight against the aggression of Japan. Remember, okay, I, I, I, I know this, that this is, um, most, most people won't believe this, but in terms of naval power, in East Asia, the dominant naval power is actually Japan. Uh, Air Force, uh, America is number one. Land, China, okay? But in terms of maritime power, it's Japan because Japan has actually no choice in the matter. It has no resources. It's an island chain. It needs to be able to exert itself, um, across the seas if it has to survive as a nation. So, as America retreats, Japan has no choice but to continue to build up its naval supremacy. Very, very interesting. ### 1:08:14 seg-0119 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0119` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0119](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0119) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4094s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4094s) And, it seems like Japan, time is not on its side. It's at a demographic crossroads where the average age is 50. Uh, the bond yields are rising. It appears as though the, the country is in insurmountable amounts of debt. And, one way to kind of rally your population or what, whatever, you know, able -bodied males under 50 remain to fight a war would be to create this problem which didn't exist while it always existed, I suppose. It was always latent. But, it was, you know, kind of put to bed for the sake of, you know, global commerce. Uh, what, what, do you think that demographics play a role here and just the Japanese economy imploding? ### 1:09:08 seg-0120 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0120` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0120](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0120) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4148s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4148s) Yeah, so look, um, if you just look at it from an objective economic perspective, Japan's in a lot of trouble. Um, as you say, Japan is the world, one of the world's most rapidly aging populations. Um, and they're not having children. Um, like the replacement rate is about 1.0, something like that. The fertility rate is 1.0. I mean, so Japan in 50 years may not be able to exist as a nation. But I will say that the most resilient nation in the world has always been Japan. Um, you know, Japan, um, was always had the civil conflict. But, you know, when the Mongols invaded in the 13th century, the Japanese came together and destroyed the Mongols twice in the war. Um, you go back to the 19th century when America, when Europe was, um, basically, uh, cutting China into spheres of influence. Japan came together as a nation, as a country, in, like, 30, 40 years, in, like, in a generation. ### 1:10:04 seg-0121 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0121` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0121](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0121) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4204s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4204s) And it surprised the world by defeating Russia in the Russia -Japanese War at the end of the 19th century. Um, and then after World War II when Japan was completely devastated, in 20 years' time it became basically the world's, um, strongest manufacturing power. So don't cut the Japanese out. It's an extremely resilient society. So I will say this. I will say that the nation that figures out the aging crisis will win the great game. And, um, in the West, you have the baby boomers in power and they're not dying. And so I would say the West is in a lot of trouble. But, you know, the Japanese have this tradition where if they need people to make the sacrifice, they will do so. So, I mean, like, I hate to say this but it's possible, uh, Japan introduces a policy of euthanasia and everyone over 80 is like, I've had 80 years of my life. ### 1:10:57 seg-0122 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0122` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0122](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0122) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4257s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4257s) Um, I've had a good time. Going to the forest with a samurai sword. Exactly. Exactly. Just think of the number of ways that Japanese have for suicide. They have, like, so many different ways of killing themselves. It's just really weird. No other nation, no other society does that. So, so I would not cut the Japanese out. I think the Japanese are much more energetic, much more cohesive society than, uh, people appreciate. And if Japan feels under threat by, then they'll come together as a society and make the necessary sacrifices in order to thrive as a nation. ### 1:11:28 seg-0123 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0123` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0123](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0123) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4288s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4288s) Yeah. And I mean, they do have one of the largest, uh, the longest longevities as well which has to be factored in which is a testament to that. So, that's a very, very interesting perspective. Uh, one last question for you and it's on the topic of artificial intelligence. Who do you think gets to super, or artificial super intelligence first? China or the USA? Okay. All right. Just be honest. ### 1:11:55 seg-0124 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0124` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0124](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0124) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4315s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4315s) So, I, I think it's a complete scam. I think artificial intelligence is a kind of scam. If you actually look at the technology underlying AI, it's not that impressive. It's all just mass computing, right? So, what allows for AI is just these data centers that, um, soak up an entire community's electricity and fresh water. So, it's extremely expensive. And, you know, these AI companies like OpenAI, they don't know how to monetize. Um, OpenAI loses money for every subscriber. Um, you know, it, it has like 13 billion dollars in revenue, uh, this year. Like 13 billion dollars in revenue this year. Not profit, revenue. And it loses like, you know, hundreds of billion dollars. It's asking for 1.4 trillion dollars in order to scale out to build data center infrastructure. So, it's a complete scam, um, from my perspective. But don't you think, ### 1:12:49 seg-0125 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0125` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0125](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0125) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4369s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4369s) you know, like, uh, uh, neuroscientists might say, well, if we take the reductionist view, the human brain isn't really that impressive either. I mean, it's a bunch of, it's its own version of ones and zeros. It's various, you know, biochemical switches and stuff like that. Like, I mean, is China investing immense amounts of money into AI? ### 1:13:14 seg-0126 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0126` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0126](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0126) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4394s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4394s) China is investing a lot of money into AI. It's invested a lot of money into EVs, into, into electric batteries, um, because it's looking for this technological moonshot, right? Uh, China is facing a lot of headwinds. It's also facing a demographic crisis. Um, its economy is out of trouble. So, it's looking for a moonshot that will save the Chinese economy and propel China into the global hegemon. But this, um, technological moonshot doesn't exist. Um, we've, we've reached a limit. ### 1:13:49 seg-0127 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0127` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0127](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0127) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4429s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4429s) Interesting. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it seems to be progressing at such a rate. I just can't see them investing so much in something that would be all for naught. Like, at the rate that it's progressed since Chachi BT was first unveiled is just really astonishing. Like, if we were to project that exponentially forward, if that growth continues, I mean, we tend to see it linearly. Some people think there's never going to be a transcendent fume -type moment where, uh, the recursive learning really takes off. I just can't see them investing. I mean, maybe it is just massive groupthink. And China's doing it because the U.S. is doing it and everybody's scared. That's why they're doing it even though it's never going to amount to anything. But I don't know, man. I, I, I think it could be a super weapon. ### 1:14:41 seg-0128 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0128` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0128](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0128) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4481s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4481s) So, so one limits test, um, is how AI fares next couple years. So, the prediction is that, um, AI will become less effective over the next two years. So, so let me explain the reason why. How AI works is it basically scrapes all information from the internet and then it, um, processes information and relays it in a way that is, um, pleasing to the human eye. Okay? It, it's basically trying to, uh, fool you and to believe that it is, uh, is that it needs good, clean data in order to keep on pulling off this trick. The problem is, like, they've reached a limit of all AI, of all internet data. And, in fact, what's happening is a lot of these new training models, they're using data created by AI itself. So, it's almost as though the AI is eating itself now. And which means that the quality of data is decreasing. And so, the ### 1:15:44 seg-0129 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0129` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0129](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0129) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4544s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4544s) big prediction, the big limits test as to whether AI can be fully sentient is, in the next two years, the quality of ChatGPT increases or decreases. The prediction is it decreases. The prediction is that when you start talking more with, um, um, the ChatGPT, the answers will be less and less relevant and be more and more confusing. Another thing I will say is that Seth Altman has said that he wants to turn ChatGPT into, like, sex chat. Right. Right? Yeah. Like, you saw that, right? Yeah, yeah. That's, that's kind of silly. Right? And, and, it's just worth saying, like, we don't know how to monetize this. We don't know how far we can take this technology. And we need to make as much money as possible because we want to go and do an IPO and we want to be a $200 company. ### 1:16:35 seg-0130 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0130` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0130](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0130) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4595s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4595s) Yeah, I mean, there's, I mean, everything probably ultimately ends at that point. So, you're saying there's going to be a diminishing return and that the, the Moore's Law of this will cease in a relatively short order. ### 1:16:49 seg-0131 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0131` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0131](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0131) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4609s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4609s) Yeah, I mean, ChatGPT, AI, it will just degrade over time. And, and so, like, the big question is, like, no one's figured out how to make money off this. You know, AI makes really cool videos. But, like, what does it do for you? I mean, like, how does it actually improve the economy? Well, what we'll probably see, okay, is that even though AI doesn't improve, we will see millions of job layoffs, okay? We'll see these white -collar jobs, like, you know, accountants, bureaucrats, administrators being replaced by AI. So, that's one major consequence of AI. AI won't improve the economy, but it will definitely reduce the number of jobs. It will cause massive unemployment. Interesting. ### 1:17:36 seg-0132 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0132` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0132](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0132) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4656s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4656s) Interesting hypothesis. Yeah, I mean, I think, I guess the way that it acquires more data and it doesn't go crazy recursively, just, you know, going back onto itself, and I've heard the argument that the inaccuracies are amplified over time because it continuously quotes itself and misquotes. These are things that I think will be probably corrected. But, I guess at some point, you know, you're probably going to see, yeah, it's a very, there's so many unknowns. ### 1:18:12 seg-0133 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0133` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0133](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0133) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4692s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4692s) Yeah, so there's a solution to this problem, which is, if AI is able to leap into the real world. Right, so that's what I was going ### 1:18:20 seg-0134 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0134` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0134](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0134) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4700s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4700s) to say, to have sensors through robotics like Tesla takes in information through its cars, it would need some interface with the real world. ### 1:18:31 seg-0135 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0135` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0135](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0135) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4711s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4711s) That's right. So, I mean, the big thing is microchips inside your body. If they're able to do that, if they're able to have microchips inside your body and able to create a digital ID and digital currency system, that may stop a problem of data. Right, but like, you want to live in a world where, you know, there's microchips in your body. Well, they'll sell it to people, right? ### 1:18:51 seg-0136 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0136` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0136](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0136) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4731s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4731s) Like, they'll say it's going to make you smarter. You know, if you could have like Wikipedia in your brain at all times and you just, you know, you want an answer to something, you think it and you can say it, a lot of people would go for that. I personally wouldn't. You know, I think we'll be the last generation that doesn't, but somebody's going for that Neuralink. ### 1:19:12 seg-0137 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0137` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0137](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0137) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4752s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4752s) Yeah, yeah, but that is the, that is the play to basically force everyone to be microchipped, to be, you know, part of the matrix. Have you ever used the exoskeletons? ### 1:19:27 seg-0138 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0138` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0138](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0138) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4767s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4767s) I don't touch the stuff. I stay away from the stuff. I tested one on the channel and it's, you can walk with this thing and it's not until you shut it off that you realize that it was really helping you, like how much it was helping you. Like, you can go and walk and run and then you turn it off, you turn the power off and then all of a sudden your legs feel really heavy and I could see it like, you know, it's like a smartphone, the ability to, you know, to augment your ability to acquire information in the same way with this Neuralink. They'll shut it off and then you'll be, feel like a dullard because you don't know anything. You don't know how to do anything for yourself anymore and that'll be how they, you know, keep you in the CBDC, you know, digital currency enslavement or whatever they apply. ### 1:20:19 seg-0139 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0139` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0139](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0139) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4819s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4819s) Look, look, I'm a parent, I can see the appeal of these microchips because, you know, one thing that parents are afraid of is their kid gets lost, right? Or the kid gets kidnapped, right? Well, these microchips inside the kid's, you know, bloodstream, you don't have to be afraid of that anymore because the kid will, you can always, like, take out a smartphone you don't exactly know where the kid is, right? So, I can see the appeal. ### 1:20:41 seg-0140 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0140` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0140](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0140) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4841s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4841s) They'll sell it somehow for sure. Let's, let's hope, let's just be happy that we, we were one of the last generations to, to not have to, to endure that. I want to thank you for coming out again and, look forward to, you know, touching base with you in 2026. Do you have any big plans in the coming days? Any big shows have you, or are we going to see you on some, some bigger podcasts soon? ### 1:21:07 seg-0141 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0141` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0141](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0141) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4867s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4867s) No, I mean, I'm really focused on finishing my, my course. So, I have four more classes to, to teach and I'm pretty excited about that. I'll be talking a lot about secret societies. So, if you're interested in this sort of stuff, please check out my YouTube channel, Predictive History. We'll go more into the background, the history, and development of these secret societies. ### 1:21:29 seg-0142 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0142` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0142](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0142) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4889s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4889s) Well, I look forward to seeing you on Lex or Tucker or Patrick Bet David one of these days, I think, probably in 2026 it's going to happen. All right, Professor Zhang, thank you very much for coming out. Thanks, Nate. ### 1:21:49 seg-0143 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-lhssc-w0bk4@transcript:v1#seg-0143` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0143](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-lhssc-w0bk4/transcript/#seg-0143) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4909s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSsC_w0bk4&t=4909s) The best way to support this channel is to support yourself by gearing up at canadianpreparedness.com where you'll find high quality survival gear at the best prices, no junk and no gimmicks. Use discount code PREPPINGGEAR for 10 % off. Don't forget the strong survive but the prepared thrive. Stay safe.