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# Professor Jiang Xueqin | Sabbatai Zevi, Jacob Frank, & The Secret Faith Of Power transcript

- Source: [Professor Jiang Xueqin | Sabbatai Zevi, Jacob Frank, & The Secret Faith Of Power](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7n_6pid0tk)
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the planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan there's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man and until we've thoroughly tested every last close -chested view i find the more we think we know the less we really can company it's a beautiful day in the

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neighborhood people doing what we do from the sunshine state i'm greg carlwood and many of the most insightful observers have professed that time is not the up and to the right linear progression model we've been trained to see it as instead time seems to be managed by its own seasons and cycles from the progression of a single day to the influence of cosmic energies and cycles that are hard to even understand from the perspective of a human being but have been recognized and deemed predictable over time nevertheless it seems the puppet masters of the power pyramid understand this well and have learned to exploit it on every level imaginable some even suggest that the end of the world will be different from the world at hand time will be the end of the world inner circle of the occult controller class has learned to slither out of the dying husk of one imperial nation as

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it falls and right into the rise of another and the interesting thing about our time is that cycle watchers of all types from the astrological and economic to those who track the life cycles of nations and the patterns of cataclysmic events appearing throughout history they're all very much on high alert i agree we seem to be living through an important interesting part of the big movie so once again i welcome back the man behind predictive history professor jiang you might remember him from an interview we did back in october covering his predictive history methodology his esoteric connection to more abstract sources of insight the current state of geopolitics and the role of the ivy league educational engine under the hood of the big machine today we're taking it even deeper and i'm psyched to get into it the professor of predictive history whiteboard wizard and china's own harry selden welcome back good sir thanks greg

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great to be back yeah i'm psyched for this one when it comes to the last interview a lot of people are going to be like oh my god i'm going to be like oh my god i'm going to be a lot of people did love it a few called me out for saying harry sheldon instead of harry selden but it was otherwise very well loved did you get any interesting feedback that you recall i like to

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sometimes start it off that way no i i mean i thought it was a great interview um as well you asked some really deep questions i think that um you're really the one of the best interviewers out there so thank you so much for having me back well that's kind of you to say but you know we

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were talking a little bit after we recorded that and you mentioned a desire to have gotten into the movie and i think that's a really good question and i think that's a really good question to zabatai zevi and the 1666 story as well as jacob frank and you've done some recent work on this that is really good with your secret history 26 the faith of evil very eye -opening and just to get us moving here what would you say to people about why this is an important thread for them to understand why are these events in the 17th and 18th century so relevant to understanding power today i've been studying history for a long time like everyone else

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and if you look at the modern history ever since the renaissance there have been certain events that are confusing for people for example where did communism come from how was it that this radical ideology based on marx's understanding of how capitalism works how is it able to take over the world it conquered russia and it conquered china so how was it able to succeed against the force of this radical ideology and how was it able to succeed against the force of those four principles? might of capitalism. So that's one mystery that I think everyone is curious about. Second is Sigmund Freud. I'm not sure if you've read Sigmund Freud, but his theories are just complete nonsense. Edible complex, electoral complex, it's just complete nonsense. But you know, for 50 years, it was the mainstream. It was the economic consensus. And only these past few decades has it been dethroned. But you could argue that most of the major tenets of Freud's understanding of psychology are still around.

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Neuroscience is very much based on Freud's understanding of how the brain works. So how is it that this man with his strange ideas, esoteric ideas, was able to conquer the field of psychology? Then another question, of course, is why is there so much occult symbolism throughout the world? If you shoot rockets up into space, you name them like Apollo or Artemis. These asteroids are named after Egyptian gods. What is going on here? If you look at the American $1 bill, there's a lot of occult symbolism embedded within it. Number 13 is highly dominant in the $1 bill. Washington, DC, the architecture, the layout is heavily based on Freemason symbolism. So if you can't tackle these questions, then it's very hard to understand how the world really works. And so what I would argue is that if you really want to understand what connects

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all of these ideas, communism, Freud, and his psychology, occult symbolism throughout the world, you really need to look at Sabatini and Frankis. Because in many ways, even though they may not be around, even though the name doesn't resonate with people anymore, their ideas are embedded in modernity. And you can make your argument. And I wouldn't make the argument that Sabatini and Zevi and, say, your friend, Frank, really are the true founders of our journey itself.

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Well, that is a great opening pitch for sure. And that seems to be the kind of gray area that so many things that I talk to researchers about fall into, which is like, well, this was a certain group of powerful people at a time. And then most of it's hand waved by saying, and they're not around anymore. Knights Templar, Illuminati, whatever it is. And even now Freemasons, they're like, well, the Freemasons are not around anymore. They're not around anymore. They're not around anyway, since they haven't replenished their stock with the young bucks. So now they're just kind of old guys dying out. And maybe, obviously, some power does wane, but a lot of it also goes dark. And it doesn't just disappear and create a vacuum. It finds a way to flex its way into the next thing or pass the torch in a sort of sense. Yeah, that's always the big mystery is, well, did this power really die out?

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Did this ideology really go away? Or is it still around in secret? And that's a hard thing to find a smoking gun for sometimes. So I have this book here, Robert Zephyr's 1666, Redemption Through Sin, Global Conspiracy in History, Religion, Politics, and Finance. I asked you about it before we got started. You've read it yourself a couple of times. It's been number one on Amazon's charts in the blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy category for a long time. And he told me he won't do an interview, for the people who ask, because Robert Zephyr is recommended often. He won't do an interview with anyone but Joe Rogan, which is super lame, but to read from the book's description, because this will set us up well. Most people have heard of Jesus Christ, considered to be the Messiah by the Christians and who lived 2000 years ago, but very few have ever

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heard of Sabbatai Zevi, who declared himself the Messiah in 1666 by proclaiming redemption was available through acts of sin. He amassed a following of over 1 million passionate believers, about half of the world's Jewish population during the 17th century. Although many rabbis at the time considered him a heretic, his fame extended far and wide. Sabbatai's adherents planned to abolish many ritualistic observances because, according to the Talmud, holy obligations would no longer apply in the Messianic time. Fasting days became days of feasting and rejoicing. Sabbatians encountered and practiced and encouraged sexual promiscuity, adultery, father -daughter incest, and religious orgies. Yikes. So, inversion was a big part of his teachings, it seems.

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1666 is a great book. I highly recommend it. It's an easy read, actually. It's very short. It's very brisk. It's a very quick read. It's a lot of fun. To understand Sabbatai Zevi, let me provide some background. So, this is the 17th century in the Ottoman Empire. And at this point in history, the Jews are suffering from a crisis of faith. A lot of Jews in the past few centuries have converted to Christianity. They've converted to Islam. The majority of Jews have converted to Islam. And this is causing a tremendous crisis of faith because the first commandment is, do not worship false idols. Be true to the covenant between Yahweh and Abraham. So, the greatest sin, the original sin, was conversion of Jews to Christianity and into the Islam faith. That's the first major crisis of faith. Second major crisis is the fact that Jews continuously get persecuted. 1492, they're expelled from Islam. And they're these Jews that were conceived like Jews.

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And then, they become And they go there for centuries living these prosperous lives. They were embedded into the elite. And then, the Christians reconquered Spain from the Muslims, and they forced the Jews to convert. Those who did not convert were forced into exile. Because there was this genuine hushing. but the Jews who stayed loyal, why are they kind of initially persecuted and massacred often at times? And the third issue is this, when they were expelled from Spain, a lot went to the Polish -Lutheran Commonwealth. And for about 100 years, this was a growing nation and it needed energetic, ambitious individuals. And so it practiced religious tolerance. And so Jews in the Polish -Lutheran Commonwealth, they thrived, they prosper, they were happy, and they really thought that they at long last had found the promised land. But then a war broke out between the Polish -Lutheran Commonwealth and Russia and Sweden, and people were getting massacred, including Jews.

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So at this point in history, Jews felt hopeless. And in the Jewish faith, when you lose all hope, you know the Messiah is coming because God will redeem the Jews with the Messiah. And when they come to the Messiah, they assume that the Messiah will take them home to Jerusalem. Reconstitute the nation of Israel and build the third temple. And so there was just anxiety, desperation in the air, looking for the Messiah. And so in 1666, when Zebedee Zevi announces that he would be the Messiah, that he is in fact the Messiah, a million Jews, right, a third of the Jewish population believed he was the Messiah because this was the Messianic age. It was the end of days. But then what happened was that a sultan, the Ottoman sultan confronted Zebedee Zevi, and said that if you're the king of the Jews, then who am I?

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So here's the deal, either the turban or your head, okay? You either convert to Islam, or I will take your head. And what shocked the entire Jewish world, the entire Jewish diaspora is that Zebedee Zevi did convert. And everyone's confused as to why he did. And what they didn't understand was, it was actually part of the divine plan. Because if Zebedee Zevi converted, Zebedee Zevi is the Messiah. His mission is to redeem all Jews, including those who converted. So the problem is that if you usher in the Messianic age, what do you do with all those Jews who've converted into Christianity, into Islam? And this is the majority of Jews, by the way. Are they condemned to hell? Are they condemned to burn in hell for all of eternity? Well, that's not fair. So by converting, by himself converting, the Messiah converting, what it does is that it absolves all Jews of the messiah,

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the Messiah converting, what it does is that it absolves all Jews of the messiah, the Messiah converting, what it does is that it absolves all Jews of the messiah, of the sin, of the original sin of conversion, just like how Jesus, dying on the cross, he absolves all humanity of the original sin of disobedience of God in the Garden of Eden, right? That was his true mission. And most Jews didn't understand that, but those Jews who did understand that followed him into the Islam faith, and today they're called the Domei, okay? You mentioned that a lot of people think that, why are we talking about Zebedee Zevi? Because he's not relevant anymore. Well, here's some facts for you. The Domei, these, you know, 300 or so families who converted into the Islam faith, but they are still crypto -Jews, okay? They still practice the faith that Zebedee Zevi taught them, which includes, as you say, the idea of inversion and transgression, justification by sin.

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How do you know your true faith in God? Because you're not afraid to break the laws of net. Your faith in God is so strong that it can bypass social convention and legal norms, okay? So they practice things like, as you mentioned, ritual incest, as well as wife swapping. It's a very common thing among Sabbateans to swap wives. And these families, over time, they embed themselves into up echelons of power in the Ottoman Empire, so much so that they became the Young Turks, which overthrew the Ottoman Empire. And the first president of the Republic of Turkey was Mustafa Ataturk, who himself came from a Domei family. So, in other words, if you go to Turkey today, the people in charge are descendants of the Domei. Erdogan, who is the current president of Turkey, he himself is rumored to be a Domei as well. So, some of this stuff is still relevant today, okay?

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And that's just Turkey. In 2003, when the American military overran Iraq and they went to Baghdad and seized all the files of Iraqi intelligence, okay, the spy service for the Iraqis, what they discovered is, these huge documents showing that the Iraqis believed that the House of Saud, the Saudi royal family, were in fact Sabbateans. They were crypto Jews. The Iraqis were actually convinced that, like the leaders of Turkey, the leaders of Saudi Arabia were also Sabbateans, okay? So, that's how powerful the faith in Sabbate -Zabi is, and it's still relevant to us today. This obviously leads us to a question. How did they get into these positions of power? How was it that the Sabbateans were able to slowly climb the ashrams of power, both in the Arabian desert, as well as the Ottoman Empire, and one day seize the reins of power? And we don't know, okay, because they won't tell us.

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They're very secretive people. But my guess is this. We don't know what the actual connection between the British Empire and the Sabbateans are, but I would say it is extremely strong. Why? Because the British Empire, they are a naval power. They're not a land power. Therefore, they don't fight wars. They engage in diplomacy. They engage in spycraft. They like to undermine nations. And their biggest opponent at that time was the Ottoman Empire. And now, in the Ottoman Empire, you have these crypto Jews, the Sabbateans, who could be bribed or convinced to become your agents in the Ottoman Empire. And the way you do that is you have the Sabbateans join your secret society, the Freemasons. So an example of this alliance between the Sabbateans and the British Empire are the Rothschilds, the Rothschild family. It is rumored that they are a Sabbatean family. They have very strong linkages to the British Empire.

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And so when we think of transnational capital, when we think of the British Empire, in many ways, it is an alliance between the Sabbateans and the British royal family. Now, the House of Saud, as we know, they were supported Wahhabis, okay? Wahhabism, which is this radical Islamic movement. The British have a history of sponsoring extremist religious groups in order to destabilize regions, right? So think of the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia, but also think of the Bolsheviks in Russia, right? We know that the British were heavy sponsors of the Bolsheviks in Russia. Think of ISIS today, where the CIA and MI6 in Mossad is sponsoring al -Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East. So these empires have a long history of sponsoring these extreme, extreme religious sects in order to destabilize regions. And the Sabbateans were a very useful asset in that regard. And that's why the Sabbateans were able to, you know, to slowly ascend power in both Turkey and in Saudi Arabia.

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That's important context. And so this is often called Sabbatean Frankism. So let's get to the Frankism part. 50 years after Zevi converts in 1666, 50 years later, another guy is born, Jacob Frank. He's born into a Sabbatean family, and he eventually comes to claim to be the reincarnation of Zevi. Let me read from your post here, and then you can take us deeper. But you write, born into a Sabbatean family, Jacob Frank, 1726 to 1791, believed he was the reincarnation of both the 17th century Jewish messiah, Sabatai Zevi, as well as the patriarch, Jacob. He and his followers converted to Catholicism, and the Kabbalistic mystic died a wealthy man protected by his own militia. His followers included prominent European nobility, bankers, and intellectuals, and he enjoyed the patronage of the people, the royal families of Russia and Austria. It is rumored he founded the Illuminati, an alliance of secret societies that rule the world today.

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Frank and his followers were notorious for their depravity, and they engaged in ritual incest again. Frank inspired cult leaders such as Aleister Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard. David Icke believes that the Sabbatean Frankists rule the world, and this weekend, I finally had a chance to read a collection of Jacob Frank's writings and sayings, and to my chagrin, I discovered Icke is yet again right, and I will never forget it. So, definitely some interesting details there. One is like Kabbalistic mystic. So a lot of times in conspiracy land, when they're trying to find the faith of the elite, a lot of people will just say, well, they're Kabbalistic Jewish mystics. And that's kind of a broader term where, you know, to really hone in on what that means is probably Sabbatean Frankism. So it's nice to put a better term and a real history to this broad idea. And I didn't know necessarily that he inspired

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Aleister Crowley specifically, but it's this claim about the Illuminati that is most interesting, because that's formed by Isaac Weishaupt, or not Isaac, that's a friend of mine, Adam Weishaupt in 1776 in Bavaria. And that is when Jacob Frank is alive. He died in 1791. So 20 years earlier, you could say there, at least, in the same timeline together, but what more can we say to kind of drive that point home that he had a hand in the creation of the Illuminati and that he had meetings with Adam Weishaupt?

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Okay, so in 1666, you know, Robert Sefard goes into this. He says that the Illuminati was founded by three individuals, Adam Weishaupt, Jacob Frank, and the Rothschild family, because the Rothschild family provided the financing. Okay, so it was these three individuals that founded the, Okay, so it was these three individuals that founded the, Illuminati. And so the Illuminati, it's actually an alliance of six societies, the Frankists, the Freemasons, the Jesuits, because Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit, okay? So that's what the book 1666 tells us. So here's certain things that convinced me that Jacob Frank is heavily aligned with the Illuminati. And I would say that Jacob Frank is actually the main founder of the Illuminati, okay? So first of all, Jacob Frank traveled all around Europe, and he was very close with European nobility. So the royal families of Austria and Russia became his patrons. Maria Theresa, the Empress of Austria -Hungary, became a friend of his, okay?

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So that's number one. He was very, very close with the European nobility. Number two is you can feel his influence. In the writings of very prominent European intellectuals. So I'll give you an example. Goethe, the German intellectual, who is also a member of the Illuminati. This is well known. If you just go on Wikipedia, it will tell you that Goethe was a member of many different societies, including the Freemasons, including the Illuminati. And Goethe wrote a book called Faust. And the Faust, in the book Faust, it's based on a popular legend where a scholar, an academic, Faust, he's in the search of knowledge, of wisdom. And he's reading books and he's frustrated that he can't access that much wisdom in the books. So Mephistopheles, the devil, visits him and says, I can grant you all the knowledge in the world on the condition that you surrender your soul to me when you die.

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And so Faust agrees. And they go on these terrible misadventures together. So the first thing they do together is basically rape a young woman. And impregnate her, kill her mother, and kill her brother. And then she kills herself. And that's how the first part of Faust works. So it's just this awful ritual sacrifice in many ways. And then at the end of part two, Faust is dying. And he falls in his grave. And Mephistopheles comes to collect his soul. But before he's able to collect the soul, God sends angels to take Faust up to heaven where he's reunited with his first love, the woman he first impregnated. And this is how the book ends. And if you think about it, it's very much a Franken's attitude where God wants us to sin because sin, transgression, inversion is the path to knowledge. These social norms, these social taboos, they are just these inventions that are designed to oppress us.

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So the path to knowledge is through constant experimentation, exploration, transgression. And if you do so, you are fighting evil because this world that we live in was created by Satan himself. And so we must destroy this world through transgression. It's in process of acceleration. But most importantly, it's a path towards self -empowerment, self -knowledge. And that's very much a Franken's attitude that we have to follow. And that has inspired Goethe. But if you think about it, it's really inspired modernity, right? So what distinguishes the Europeans from other cultures? It's this Faustian attitude of constantly seeking knowledge, of never being satisfied with who you are, where you are, constant process of accumulation, conquest, fulfillment. If you read Jacob Frank's stories, if you read his writings, you see that spirit in his thinking. And that's why I think Jacob Frank is much more influential than we give him credit for. Here's my argument to you.

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I'm not sure if this makes sense. So please debate me or question me if it doesn't make any sense. When people think about black magic, they think about astrology or numerology, but I would argue that real magic is in storytelling. So here's the logic. If you're a Kabbalist, what you understand is that the universe is consciousness. It's just vibrations, right? right? The universe is just a hallucination. It's just what we imagine it to be. And numerology helps us get a more precise understanding of these vibrations so that we pursue ourselves in a place that may augment our fortune or better our chances of doing something better, okay? But stories are different. Stories have a way of projecting themselves onto the universe and then embed themselves onto the universe and then capturing people's imaginations, focusing people's attention, okay? So think of a song. It was a good song. Everyone, after just one listen, remembers the song.

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And not only that, starts to sing the song to himself or herself. And this song becomes a virus almost. It seeps into your consciousness. And the song, the lyrics, then start to alter the way you see yourself and you see the universe, okay? That's what good stories do. And if you actually read Jacob Frank, the stories he tells are amazing. They are memorable. They are powerful. They are present. They are packed with knowledge and learning. And they're extremely seductive. And we can go over some stories if you want. But that's my argument to you. Does that argument make sense to you?

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It does make sense. And you are really on hitting, you're really hitting on one of the biggest curiosities, one of the deepest curiosities I have about reality. Because when we have a story, we have a story. And we have a story. And we have a story. And we have these oftentimes conspiratorial events. You will find that this event is almost lifted from a novel that was written a decade earlier by some intelligence guy. And it's very strange to see this pattern from the Titanic to 9 -11 to COVID even. There's a Dean Kutz novel that talks about a virus. It's very similar. You just realize, like, what is that about? Is it the collective memory in this story? Is it the collective memory in this story? Is it the collective memory in this timeless realm and people are just picking up on ideas and writing them down? Some people call it predictive programming, priming the public to know this event is coming.

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And that never really resonated exactly right with me. But I do think there's something about narrative that you put the narrative out and then almost like the collective manifests it. If you scale it down to like Neville Goddard or what some of these mystics would tell us about manifesting our own dreams, manifesting our own goals, Neville would say you go to sleep in the feeling of the wish fulfilled. So think about the thing you want a year from now. And as you fall asleep in the hypnagogic state between awake and sleep, you act out, you feel the feeling as if you have achieved that goal. And so then your subconscious moves you into the reality where you do get that big house on the lake that you were just like your subconscious wants to help you. So that's his perspective. So then. Scale

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that up and apply that mechanism to something evil and say, well, the elite's goal is to have a 9 -11 and pull it off and have it work and have it do everything that it did. The catalyst for all the things that came after. Well, how do you do that? You maybe do it yourself, but then you also maybe seed destruction of these two towers in everything, you know, constantly drive it home in comic books, in the Simpsons and all these things that people are absorbing. And then maybe you mix it with like highly emotional scenes. And so people start to feel an emotion as they're watching it. I don't know, but I think there might be a way to take that Neville Goddard thing and project it out to everyone else and create the big story that really happens out in the world rather than the micro story of your own goals and dreams.

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It seems to be the same mechanism. So I do think there's something there. I'm rambling, but the only other thing I wanted to say is that if I had to put a label on my life, I would put a label on my own philosophy. I'd probably say somewhat Gnostic. I mean, Gnosticism, it's like self -directed. It's all inside yourself. See through the illusions. You don't need a guru or anything necessarily. And, you know, break through and do the hard work. I like all that. And a lot of times people will say, well, the elite are Gnostics, the elite are promoting Gnosticism. So that's, you know, a bad thing. And the way you explain Sabbatean Frankism, you can see something very adjacent and similar. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think with Gnosticism, morality is a big part of it.

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You look at the Cathars, they were doing extreme morality to maintain the connection. We talked last time about your own connection. And you say, no, you know, fasting and keeping yourself clean and pure, no caffeine, no alcohol, these things, this keeps the connection strong. So there might be many different ways to connect, many different things to connect to and different ways to do it. But I feel like that clarified for me a little bit of the difference between Gnosticism and Sabbatean Frankism. And why we see things that are interpreted as Gnostic within the elite behaviors. But yes, to get back to stories, man, please talk to us about some of the stories that you find most impactful, because I have heard you talk about maybe a dozen of them. And I agree. It's like Aesop's fables I read to my kids. Like stories are great. And I'd like to hear some of his.

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Sure. So I want to pick up on your Gnostic point. So the great thing about Jacob Frank is that he's actually working from the Gnostic framework. Which is basically that there's a divine spark in us that comes from the monad, that we are always interconnected. We are always connected with a higher consciousness. He also believes in the idea of reincarnation. But his argument is this. His argument is this. If God is all forgiving, if God is all compassion, and we are here in this world to experience wisdom, because, you know, if your spirit, you don't have a body, you don't have a corporal body, and therefore you can't feel pain, therefore you can't feel pleasure, and therefore your experiences are canceled, and so we are so wrong. And it's just incredibly wonderful that he actually realises that we are created in a physical way and that featured wisdom and place. Okay. Thank you, Jacob. So

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there are a lot, a lot of examples of the Gnostic approach to the way that expanded their body and situated themselves in God's resurrection, for example, for 50 years. What is the Trinity Gamma общangущ with is. I'm seeing this as an issue. How many people have that? What do you think people have as Wiki folks? Hmm. That seems very extraordinary to me. Okay. So I agree. He believes in the world in which I'm the dominant is. Yeah. Um, I agree. Because he means things. Let me ask you this question then. Could you also learn wisdom by being a king, by conquering the world? And also, could you not use the divine spark in you in order to conquer the world? How? Well, divine spark is love, right? So if you focus your divine spark energy at a person that you love and you together conquer this world, then wouldn't that be much more effective, okay?

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So he tells this great story where there's a bear whose cub was kidnapped. And so the bear's very angry. And the bear knows it was his villagers who've kidnapped the cub. So the bear says to the villagers, either return my cub or I will come and kill all of you. So the villagers reply, there's a thousand of us and we together will fight you off. And the bear says, then I'll eat all a thousand of you, okay? The villagers get really angry. Then they contact other villagers and they say, okay, let's band together. And then they reply to the bear and says, there's 10,000 of us and we will kill you. And the bear says, fine. I'll kill 10,000 of you, okay? And they caught more villagers. Now it's 20,000. The bear says, I don't care. Finally, they come up with a solution. They write back to the bear and say, there are four brothers in this village who will fight you.

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And the bear runs away. And this story, it's just a beautiful story, right? But it shows you the power of love. How four people fighting together who love each other and who are fighting for each other, they're more powerful than 10,000 people, 20,000 people. An entire army, okay? And that's the main ideology of Frank. And here, he would agree with Dante and with Jesus. But he's using love in order to achieve power. And this is something that Jesus and Dante would shirk at. And Jacob Frank says, well, is this against the law? Would God protest this? And Dante would say, no, God gave us free will. And Jacob Frank would say, fine. Then I'm the one. I'm going to use my free will. I'm going to use the power of love to conquer the world. Okay? And that's an inversion. You're not supposed to do that.

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But there's no law that says you can't do that, right? That's why he's so powerful. Because he's taking all these conventions, all this understanding, mystical understanding, these spiritual teachings that we've had for 1,000 years, and he inverts it, right? He finds a loophole. He's a lawyer. In fact, most Franks are actually lawyers. But he finds a loophole and says, listen, we have free will. God loves us. God forgives us. It's a great, expensive world for what it is. So become kings. Let us break the laws of man and become kings. And he tells you these stories that convince you that he's right. And that's why he's very much like Alistair Crowley or L. Ron Hubbard. You know, he's charismatic. He's hypnotic. He's seductive. He seduces you with his logic. And because he's so seductive, people naturally think he has magical properties. And in many ways, what he does is magic. Because think about what he's doing.

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What he's doing is he's visualizing the world for you, right? He's telling you what the world could be. And what he teaches his followers is that if you want the world to be what you want it to be, just visualize it. It will come to you, okay? So he tells the story of how he's with two nuns, and they're both very attractive. And so what he does is he takes off his clothes, and he's naked. He lies in bed. And he's just sitting there meditating. And imagining the nuns taking off their clothes as well. And what happens next is the nuns themselves take off their clothes, and then we don't understand why. And they get in bed with Jacob Frank. And now the nuns are kind of scared because they're nuns. And they know that they're not supposed to have sex with Jacob Frank. And they said, Mr. Frank, are you not embarrassed?

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And Jacob Frank says, of course not. He laughs it off. And then they have sex. Okay. That's the power of visualization. So what he's telling us is that. Okay. Everything is really imagination. It's imagination. The entire reality is just what we visualize it to be. And this visualization comes from prejudices. It comes from norms. It comes from taboos. And we don't know where they come from. Okay. Who says nuns shouldn't have sex with a guy? Who says that? I mean, like, what is wrong with that? Right? So if you yourself can imagine a world in which all transgressions can be broken down and people are free to do whatever they want. Then you've liberated humanity. Okay. So Thomas Frank has a saying. He says that there are things in which 10,000 men cannot lift. But I will teach you to lift these things as easily as though it were a feather.

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Okay. And what he's referring to, of course, are taboos and morality and social laws. Right? These things just exist in our head. So we turn our head a certain way. And we visualize a new world in which we are the king. And we visualize a new world in which we are the king.

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then we become the king of this world yeah man you can almost see the logic in it which is what's so crazy yeah i mean it's as a as a workaround as a hack as a jailbreak to what should be kind of self -evident which is like be a good person and do your best like it's high level intellectual re -categorization of morality or like you know your your faith in god is like we'll break all man's rules because if you follow man's rules and that's kind of putting a god before god isn't it

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like that's the way he's arguing so yeah i think it's pretty interesting yeah so i would just point out that you know if you're a king okay you're already a king or you're an aristocrat and you hear this you think this guy's right right i mean like like before you felt some guilt for having all this power and for being this vicious asshole because you have to be to be an elite and now this guy's telling you it's perfectly okay everything is just what you imagine it to be so you can imagine this is that the power um towards mobility right but you can also imagine how once this idea takes hold it spreads like a virus it's able to conquer two societies right and that's what happens these 17 frank is what they will do is they will infiltrate different societies right because they can convert to different religions they will convert to the

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catholic faith and become jesuits they will convert to the Protestant faith and become freemasons and once they're embedded in these faiths they will spread this virus it affects everyone it really conquers the world i wanted to read one more story this is one that

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you have written on your sub stack so there was a certain widow who had many children she came to a rabbi asking him for food so she and her children would not die of hunger and the rabbi says hey the whole kalal and I are poor but I will give you some advice perhaps God will give you luck announce that you are a doctor who knows how to cure all kinds of illnesses and as soon as a sick person calls you go to him right away she asked well what will I do with him so that he might get well he answered to her don't do anything but just say some prayers over him and perhaps God will help you and this sick person will get well he taught her some prayers wherever she went it went well everybody was healed by her it happened once that the same rabbi while eating fish got a

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fish bone stuck in his throat no doctor could help him he was advised to send for that widow she came and began to pray over him what he had taught her from the great laughter that this caused him the fish bone fell out of his throat and he recovered and then you say in Frank's stories there is a contempt for the silly simplicity of our world and he urged his followers to take advantage so he also that makes me think about how you have said he leaned on Superstition on people's Superstition he exploited people's spiritual beliefs and beliefs and mysticism and all that and it's weird because he did believe in mysticism but he also exploited other people's kind of maybe fear of it and that happens today there's a lot of researchers who claim the elite aren't really doing the adrenochrome thing they're not really really killing the babies but they want you to

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believe they are because if you think there might be a power in it that is beyond human power then you look at the elite as gods and you say well how could we ever defeat the elite they're all occultists doing the thing they are but it's like it's a weird catch -22 but you could see how they're more than happy as long as they know they're completely untouchable they're more than happy to let people believe that they are these dark occult Wizards even if they are they don't really mind us putting that on them because it

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makes them seem undefeatable let's clarify certain things about sticker friend okay first of all he's not a Jew what he's doing is he believes that he's he is a reincarnation of the Patriot Jacob who found the nation of Israel so he's starting a new nation why because the world that we live in is so corrupt that we live in was created by Satan because no good God would create a world of suffering of death of pain okay so whoever created this world must be the false God and therefore we have responsibility to destroy this world by exposing the stupidity of this world that's why sinning is so important because when you sin you show that the Satan is powerless okay that's number one number two people don't understand this people refuse to believe that sinning is a good thing as opposed to an evil thing it's impossible to convince people that because we are stupid

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and so what we need to do is come together as a new nation and conquer these people and lead them for their own good that's our mission okay so once you understand this then you understand what drives Jacob Frank right the story that you just read reveals again Jacob has contempt for the world but it also shows that he's basically given up on the world that you know what you're not gonna convince people of anything so rather than try to lead them towards good take advantage of their stupidity take advantage of the fact that they're that they're evil because if you don't then they'll take advantage of you okay so he tells a story of this rich Jew who's very generous and he's a very religious man and he's generous to everyone that he meets but then what happens is these people think that because you're rich and you're generous what we'll do is conspire

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against you and steal your money and they almost do okay so this world is evil and so you must accept people for who they are and manipulate them use your own stupidity stupidity and greed and evil against them and that's how you eventually conquer the world and how you build a

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new world that is based on good it's warped but you can see the logic in it sometimes you know when I have us if we've worked retail jobs or service industry jobs and you're dealing with regular people all the time you're like I see why the Elite hate the common person like I kind of understand why they get into this mindset I don't have much power to do anything about it but some days you you know you realize especially around Black Friday for the for the retail workers you know you realize what's going on out there while we're still in this first hour I want to try to like you know there's a lot more details I want to get into but we can kind of stick the landing with the story and I kind of want to just ask you how far up the timeline can we bring this so Frank died about 200

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years ago you know when you use a term like Illuminati for example it carries a lot of baggage and there's a lot of people who kind of recoil because they find it to be kind of almost anti -intellectual an oversimplification of the story of history and you know they say that it was disbanded by the Duke of Bavaria in 1785 so when conspiracy theories claim it's still around so there is there of it well how far can we take Sabbatean Frankism up the timeline are there other famous influential powerful people that are known to adopt this ideology is it too secret to really get our hands around they don't really seem to use any symbols that would be seated in certain things you know they might have used Freemasonry as a husk and we do see a lot of their symbols used in major events but help us make the case that this isn't just

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interesting history this is

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an elite today let's look at certain individuals in our timeline in our world and then figure out why they did what they did okay so the first person I want to look at is Mark Zuckerberg and he was a freshman at Harvard when he founded Facebook and Facebook became very successful really fast and people started to come to him and offer him a lot of money uh to buy off Facebook they offered him I think at one point a billion dollars you know if you're like you know in your early 20s and someone's someone's offering you a billion dollars you're gonna take that money Zuckerberg said no I'm not gonna take that money and so that's the first thing second thing is how smooth his Ascent is when Facebook went public like more than 10 years ago and I'm an investor and I'm asked to invest in Facebook I would tell you that Facebook is

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not a viable business because it's social media right what's to stop me from starting another Facebook and then having people gravitate towards that social media like tick -tock right people are fickle how was it that Facebook became such a successful business and then you look at who they recruited they recruited Sheryl Sandberg who was very summer's chief of staff at Treasury then went on to Google and then she jumped ship to Facebook and her and she really built Facebook into a powerhouse okay so Mark Zuckerberg first of all it's amazing that such a young man can turn out turn out so much money another thing is how smooth his Ascent has been it's almost seamless how successful Facebook has become and nowadays you know it's meta it doesn't even do social media it's much more focused on AI and VR okay so if you go and read Jacob Frank's stories you can sort of see

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how these stories might have influenced Mark Zuckerberg because he tells he tells a story of how you know when he started his movement the fracas movement he had a lot of followers so these no moment would come to him and says I want to join your movement I'll give you 10 million dollars okay so basically they're trying to buy out his movement right and Jacob Francis no and then a year later someone else came and said I'll give you a billion dollars and Jacob Francis no I'm not in for the money guys I'm in for the power I don't be king okay we're changing the world for the better that's one story another story that he tells and this is really important is wherever you go you'll be able to identify a fellow Frankus just by the way he speaks just by the way he behaves wherever you identify a fellow Frankus it is your

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responsibility to help that person succeed no matter what the cost is remember the four brothers if four brothers stick together they can conquer the world so I wouldn't be argument that Mark Zuckerberg seems as though he was educated in a Frankish way that maybe when he was young who sold certain stories from Jacob Frank's writings that influenced the way that he saw the world so in order to achieve money you basically give up the allure of money and attempt to change the world when you have more and more power you must help your fellow Frankus as well we're all one family together I would say the power of Jacob Frank is in his stories because if you think about it these stories are like viruses these are memory cells that if you read them they become part of your memory as well they become part of your consciousness so it's as though the spirit of

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Jacob Frank for these stories is able to benefit benefits itself into you okay so one example is Mark Zuckerberg then you look at someone like Sam Altman again someone who comes out of nowhere and his ascent is seamless at a certain point in his career someone always appears and offers him this tremendous opportunity and you don't know why he's given this opportunity but he's given this opportunity and he succeeds okay so an example is he starts this company it doesn't do very well but then he's he's given Alicia position at Y Combinator which is a very prestigious uh incubator right and then he's put into head of open AI like why is this happening to him why is it so easy for him to ascend the Silicon Valley hierarchy okay then you look at someone like Elizabeth Holmes you know who founded Torino's she doesn't have much scientific background but when she was a student

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at Stanford she got the Dean her Dean I've heard his name but but the Dean to back her uh startup and then she was able to bring in people like uh George salts these like very high deep state officials right George solds and I believe having kids as well but I could be wrong about her okay but like why are these people sitting on her stupid board she's just she's just like a college dropout right so it's almost seamless and so those are the three names I would mention Zuckerberg Sam Altman and uh Elizabeth Holmes then you go into politics and you look at the relationship between Jared Kushner and Mohammed bin Salman right because Jared Kushner he was almost a failed real estate investor basically they were a New Jersey real estate family and then they decided to buy this very expensive property in Manhattan for about a billion dollars and this property wasn't

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do wasn't doing very well and they could have gotten bankrupt but they were

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they were bailed out by other investors and I think it had a 666 address if I am not mistaken that's

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right yes that's right and they're built up by Mark Carney who's now the Prime Minister of Canada so it's a very strange story and then you look at the first Trump administration where Jared Kushner played a pivotal pivotal role in organizing the Abraham Accords right and became best friends with Mohammed bin Salman so much so that when Jared Kushner uh left the Trump White House Mohammed bin Salman MBS invested two billion dollars into his equity fund okay why are Jared Kushner MBS such good friends well I already told you the House of Saud is a Frankish family right you could also argue that your Kushner also comes from a Frankish family okay because um the Frank is not only in that themselves in the Freemasons and the Jesuits but also in that themselves in the Pacific and that's where Jared Kushner comes from okay so so you're seeing all these like linkages and I can't

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prove it okay but like you have to eat but there's a lot of things that you have to do to get to the top what are these mysteries about how people behave in our world why these people are allowed to succeed so seamlessly and why they do what they do Elon Musk why does Elon Musk do what he does why does he do Neuralink why does he do artificial intelligence why is he shooting rockets into space well if you look at Francis eschatology okay how does the world end and what are we moving towards it's very important to understand that in traditional eschatology the understanding is that when the world ends when God returns when Jesus returns or whatever we become spirit right because spirit is divinity itself and Frank says that's a stupid idea why would you become spirit we should be flesh right because God manifested us as flesh in order to enjoy

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this world so when the world ends then we should be free to enjoy the world as much as we want sexual orgies all the time let's get drunk man let's eat pork uh let's just drink and we will have immortality well if you just look at transhumanism right transhumanism is embraced of this eschatology where we can live forever and we can have sex forever and we can be young forever and we can enjoy material pleasures all the time right so ask yourself why Elon Musk is doing what he's doing why is Sam Altman doing what what he's doing right what is the grand purpose here and if you just look at Frankish eschatology it makes sense why they're doing what

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otherwise otherwise what why are you doing this yeah it's so interesting the first collection of names you mentioned a lot of people would be like well they're Jewish and it's like no they're there's something else and then I think where your argument gets more interesting is the house Assad you know because yes why are they friends with the Jews like you could say that above a certain level these divisions kind of go away but why do they go away because there's a different ideology that they all seem to be playing with and the story that I read from your substack really speaks to that mindset of like it just go for it who gives a like who cares what anyone thinks just go for it say you're a healer and if people get healed then great you know this this kind of raw fearlessness about taking extreme risk it's baked into the ideology that's why

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these people lose a billion dollars in a day and they don't actually become homeless they just go on to the next project there's something cool about that a little bit like I I think I wish I had a little more fearlessness and just really going whole hog into my own things and I think a lot of people would feel the same like we probably don't start our projects for we spend years thinking about our project not starting it because we're afraid to fail they've solved that problem and the last thing I wanted to bring up before I let you go is last time we talked about the prediction of global Cataclysm you mentioned that one of the visions uh or the messages you've received that you hadn't really wanted to advertise is that you now think 99 of humanity will be wiped out in the next hundred years and you've since written a post about

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winter is coming that gets into pole reversals and magnetic pole excursions can you talk a little bit about that or just tell us how soon you expect that to become a problem that becomes obvious to everyone this article does point out several things that are happening right now that affects the world but you know you can't ignore it it seems to be pretty mild right now but is that still something you think is going to happen and on top of all the geopolitical chaos that humans make it seems like we also might have some geophysical event in uh one human lifetime from now yeah so um if you just look at human

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history if you study the past 10 000 years you will see a series of mini Ice Age events they're called killer year events and they always Herald in social collapse and change okay so branch age collapse um or started by a mini Ice Age and um I believe the last one was 1848 in Europe and that created a famine which led to the 1848 revolutions so this there's always a series of mini Ice Ages that we experience that lead to social Cataclysm and political upheaval so this is a very normal thing in human history the problem of course is that our systems are designed to be efficient not resilient so we don't know what's going to happen this usually goes out for millions of people over a month well people will freeze to death okay so that's point number one like these climate changes are very natural common occurrences throughout human history and we've been

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very fortunate these past 100 years and that we haven't had a major one but one is due okay number two is these men hole excursions also very common and it's very problematic because you know the sun has solar flares and these solar flares will almost like an EMP shock wave okay so the last major one was I believe the quarantine event which happened about 100 years ago and that was a time when we had telegraphs but that basically destroyed telegraphs and it shocked the operators okay and that was like when the world was not electrified okay think about today where everything is electrified and I couldn't think that were to happen again well your nuclear power plans would go offline you would have no electricity your refrigeration would go offline you have no air conditioning if it's winter there's no heating you're gonna freeze your death okay and a society we've put our heads in

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the sand basically because again we want efficiency not resilience we want to hear good news we refuse to hear bad news okay but there's lots of bad news happening so So for example, there's been a series of earthquakes throughout the world. Apparently winter will get worse and worse as well. The weather is shifting. So just like watch the news and just go online and just Google these natural events that are happening. There are more occurrences of earthquakes. There are more occurrences of extreme weather events. There are more occurrences of like volcano eruptions. Well, this is all signaling a major geophysical event that could be coming. And as this magnetic pole excursion is gonna happen, the magnetic field weakens. And so a solar flare, if we get unlucky, okay, a solar flare would destroy the world's electric grid and the entire world runs on electricity. So think of the repercussions of that. So I'm not trying to scare anyone, but I'm just saying like there's a high chance of that happening.

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And unfortunately, we as a species, we're not having a serious discussion about the possibility and we're not making preparations for this possibility. Now, if the government were open with us and scientists did their due diligence, I think we could come with a solution to all these problems. But instead, no one's telling us what's happening and the rich are building bunkers.

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Again, going back to like, do what they do. Don't give your kids iPads and build your bunker.

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Well, I'm not sure. The bunkers will actually be helpful. What I think we need is to rebuild a sense of community where neighbors take an interest in each other's plight. That's what's gonna get us out of this mess.

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No, I agree. I agree. That was just a joke. But I now live on a well system and I realize that when our power goes out, the water also goes out and that's a huge vulnerability. But my next thing to work on is you can buy hand pumps for your well system. You can do solar too, but the sun isn't always there. It's just a sunshine state. But in a geophysical event, maybe there's something going on there. But as long as you can hand pump your water, that's one. Resiliency check marked off the list. And then I got many more as we all do.

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I just want to give out this piece of new life. Okay. Okay. This is gonna sound strange. Okay. But the best way to prepare for a major catastrophe is to, you know, get rid of most of your money. Okay. Let me explain the logic here. Most people are like, there's a major catastrophe coming, so I need to hoard gold or hoard Bitcoin. Guess what? When society collapses, that stuff does you no good. But if you are of the mentality that money is all that matters, you're not going to be able to adapt to a collapse of society. You're going to just put your head in the sand. And so I think like, what's gonna kill most people is just depression. Just like I give up because there's no hope anyway. All my money is gone. I give up. Yeah. So if you give up your money and said, what matters is spirituality. What matters is community.

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What matters is creativity. Then you're much more likely to survive any catastrophe, no matter what it is, because we humans are first and foremost imaginative. We have that connection to the divine, right? So in any crisis, what the first thing we will do is come together and imagine a new world, imagine a solution. But first of all, you have to unleash your imagination and the money, the wealth, individualism is what holds you back.

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Yes, good advice. It reminds me of, there's an occult scholar, John Michael Greer, and he always talks about, his phrase is collapse now and avoid the rush. Meaning separate yourself from the system as much as you can and avoid, you know, get in front of it so that you're ready when it happens to everyone else. Well, professor, this has been another really enlightening interview. I'm thankful that you were enthusiastic about coming back so soon. I'm glad we covered what we did. As we get out of here, are there any other projects you have in the works or subjects you plan on lecturing on or links to give people so they can continue to follow the great work you're doing?

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Yeah, so next semester, I'm gonna teach a course on game theory. This is like heavily requested. I wanna like learn how I think the way I do. And so next semester, I'm teaching a course on game theory. So definitely look out for that. If you're interested in my geopolitical analysis, I have a sub stack. It's predictive history. It's pretty easy to find. And that's where I give out my geopolitical analysis. And that's probably the best place to find me.

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Awesome, yes. I'm a big fan of the sub stack. So I'll add the links in the show notes, of course, but thank you again. I appreciate you a great deal. And I know the last one, that one was a big hit. I expect the same here. Keep up the great work and take care. All right, there we have it. And the crowd goes wild. Professor Jiang part two, getting into it, getting wild. A little after holiday digestif, talking about one of the most taboo topics in the historical Rolodex, if you ask me. I know I talked about this stuff a little bit with David Icke when we got into his book, The Trigger, and also with Richard Willett, who's part of the Iconic Network, but Professor Jiang filled in a lot of gaps in the continuity. And I would say made a much more convincing case because of it. The idea of conspiring with Adam

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Weishaupt and bringing together the Bavarian Illuminati and the Freemason slash Jesuits and the Kabbalistic Jewish mystics. I mean, we can never really know how far that all went or what was said in the secret meetings and how successful the plan was. But I haven't heard a more. Compelling case that these groups have an understanding with each other or that there was an actual meeting of some kind, an attempt to do that. Again, who knows how successful they were? We're always wondering who's top dog and all this. And it might just be a game to them. I liked those aspects of how they look at the world and they probably just go for all of it, do every agenda all the time and do everything but expose one another. That's probably as simple as the agreement has to be. Funny thing that came up in the news that might be related is Trump had this plan.

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I wasn't even sure if it actually happened or not or if it was just something that was floated and talked about because you just can't really tell these days. But according to Military.com, this did happen. The Department of Defense distributed a one -time $1,776 payment to roughly 1.45 million U.S. service members this holiday season. A measure dubbed the Warrior Dividend. President Trump announced the payment in a televised address. It was intended as a symbolic tribute to the year of America's founding, 1776, and to recognize the service of military personnel. Well, here's just a little bit more on Jesuit history. The Jesuits were officially suppressed by Pope Clementine XIV in 1773, facing dissolution across Catholic Europe, secretly persisted in places like Russia under Catherine the Great and Prussia under Frederick the Great's 1776 decree for their priests of the Royal Schools Institute and continued their clandestine work, especially in the American colonies

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like Maryland, navigating a complex era where Enlightenment critiques and royal power struggles had dismantled their public presence but couldn't extinguish their spirit, even as some formed new groups like the Illuminati. So, it's just interesting. We know the Illuminati formed in 1776. What is this symbolic tribute really tributing? Something else I found just trying to see where this movement went and find some kind of evidence that it didn't die out and see if there's more 1776 related stuff. Well, here we go. In 1776, Jacob Frank was active in Eastern and Central Europe, primarily in the Polish -Lithuanian Commonwealth. His daughter, Eva Frank, was a member of the Polish -Lithuanian Commonwealth. Eva Frank was also a key figure and later became the movement's leader after Jacob's death in 1791. Upon the death of her father, Eva became the Holy Mistress and leader of the cult. So, apparently, she was okay with that incest stuff. But Eva Frank and her two younger brothers, Joseph and Rokas, assumed responsibility for the direction of the cult.

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In 1800, the Franks sent red letters and red ink to hundreds of Jewish communities, including conversion to Frankism. However, the Frank siblings had neither the status nor the strength of personality required to keep the cult going. And as time went on, the numbers of pilgrims diminished and the supply of money dried up drastically. And while Eva continued to live her life accustomed to luxury, the movement started to fizzle. In November 1813, after the Battle of Lebsing, Czar Alexander I, the first of the French -Lithuanian cult, then Emperor of Russia, rode from Frankfurt to Offenbach to visit Eva. She finally became heavily indebted by three million golden in 1817. It was alleged that she died in poverty in 1816, although she is believed to have escaped to Poland and continued to lead the community after the dismantling of the Frankist court and arrest order from the Grand Duke of Hesse.

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Nonetheless, her followers continue to exist, and exist to this day. The French -Lithuanian cult has existed well into the middle of the 19th century in large numbers. So, yes, of course, the official story is that, that these groups fizzled out and don't exist anymore, really. But how much trust do you put in that? That's what we always hear about almost every group. To read that about Czar Alexander is interesting, though, because he was the one that was the leader of Russia when it was basically under the control of the British royal family, or at least that's how I think of it. They installed lieutenants in the family tree all over the place, and he was the Czar of Russia. But again, let me just read from Wikipedia a bit. Alexander I's reign was from 1801 to 1825, and he was a contemporary of King George IV and King William IV of the United Kingdom.

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He was their second cousin, as they were all the great grandchildren of King George II of Great Britain.

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Ah.

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I really don't know that much about that part of history. I should know more, but it always sticks out to me when I hear Alexander I mentioned, because we think of Russia as so different, kind of hovering in the middle of the East -West divide. But this Alexander guy was also the first king of Poland and the Grand Duke of Finland, so I don't know. I guess they ran out of cousins and had to double dip a little bit. But it's interesting history, and to hear that he rode from Frankfurt to Offenbach to see Eve, I mean, I looked that up. It's 23 miles. At that time, that's kind of a commitment. It seems like she was a significant person in the royal family network as late as 1817, and that's only 200 years ago. Even if it is a much looser type of thing than Freemasonry or the Jesuits, it still seems to be

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an ideology that's in the mix, and it brings some of these groups together, and it explains the inversion stuff we're always talking about. And other than this makes me think of, Joe Atwell, he calls the Trump family conversos or crypto -Jews who act Catholic even though they're not, and Trump and Erica Kirk are both Jesuits or Jesuit educated. Jesuits are now pretty tied up with the Sabbatean Frankist stuff. If you think Professor Zhang is right, I think it's true. I think he's a bit more of a Christian in a way, and I think his perspective unifies a lot of those ideas. It's not really either or. It's both and. So, lots of like in this interview. Really happy that this one landed on being the last show of the year. Of course, you already know we went deeper in the PLUS SHOW. Treat yourself to the full THC experience and one of the only ad

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-free independent experiences left in media. In that PLUS SHOW, some of that content was, Pax Judaica. the future of global power that plan i think he's right on with that we talked about venezuela and i think he called it flashpoint venezuela and what's actually going on there we talked about trump's attempts to disrupt the deep state that really messed with them the first time he's apparently still trying to do that i do believe there are factions even if he is connected and there's a certain level of anointment you must have to even be in consideration i do still think there's infighting and i think professor jiang made a great point about some of that infighting and how it might relate to the venezuela stuff and we talked about how to prepare the next generation he talked a little bit about his son it got a little personal and i talked about my situation just how

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it's really scary to have young kids right now but i talked myself off the ledge and say maybe it always was scary you know there's always something to get you stressed out so we talked a little bit about that but navigating the digital age and anticipating the global cataclysm he talked about last time the geophysical event that he seems to be getting premonitions for so all really great topics from the man who knows the plan sign up for plus and get twice as much thc and higher side news i've been saying that i've got some big things to say about the recent very important Philadelphia news i've been saying that i've got some big things to say about the jako sportsское and what I might just call book reports going over certain books. Who really knows what else? But when you boil it down, my THC output is five free hours of material and five paid hours of material every month.

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So far, it's always been confined to interviews, but I'm going to open that up to a lot more stuff. When I started THC, the interview format was not as oversaturated and tired as it is now. And so I'm really going to just expand on what I can produce and just keep the rough structure of five free hours and five paid. And I'm sure the majority of content will still be two -hour interviews, but it just makes everything far more flexible and allows me to get into so many things that I couldn't really put out within the parameters of an interview or the time constraints of the five interview commitment. So get ready. More on that later, but I am excited. I'm excited about being excited about work again in a huge way and just breaking up the routine. I mean, I could throw a dart and hit any book on that shelf pretty much.

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And for the most part, it's something super interesting and we could go deep on it, whether the author wants to join us or can join us or not. Really excited about that. And again, more on that later. And doing what we do in these wrap -ups, let's also talk about the last episode with Jeremiah Skiba and Jake Graham. Can I actually say that we'll end it but I can't. It's low. It's coming in at a 4.4, not terrible but that is what I kind of consider the C -tier range based on the usual reviews. And I understand it. I saw a lot of judgment actually about how Jeremiah presents himself and the jewelry and the face tattoo. Look, this is a guy who had a deadbeat dad and then was adopted by his mom's new husband in adolescence. And now, they're both dead. chunk of the internet was publicly

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mocking at least rob's death so i give a lot of grace to people who have that sort of story it's not exactly my look but some days i'm not too far off with the cuffs and the necklaces and the i can't give up the punk stuff even though i'm 40 so i can't say much but let's also just not be so surface level i can't say that the reviews are based on surface level analysis but definitely a lot of the comments kind of were but content wise i thought it was important to do this once i heard about rob's death i know covid protocols aren't exactly new to anyone but i did see a lot of comments from people on the good side with similar experiences that thought it was cathartic to hear about someone else's experience that kind of mirrored their own so obviously i wish that nobody had that experience losing their loved

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ones but at least it seemed okay to put something out that helps those people feel like someone else out there gets it but i know the majority of us are not biblical nor flat earthers so it was always going to get docked a few points for that stuff i expect this one to be far more universal in its appeal but you'll let me know and now we cover the meetup calendar where anyone can go to the meetup calendar and i'll see you in the next video and hop on there and make an event at highersidemeetups.com and find like -minded locals over a mutual enjoyment of thc topics on deck we got some stuff coming up in january okay a quartal virtual meetup you might remember mike winner who does alpha vedic with dr berlando when he was here he talked about coral coral is a crypto based on privacy and decentralization they're having a

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meetup a digital meetup and they're having a meetup with a virtual meetup on january 2nd this upcoming friday so go to the calendar for more details if you're interested in that january 3rd gilbert arizona desert monks brewing also january 3rd canaan new hampshire at poor house barbecue january 10th the raleigh brewing company in raleigh north carolina january 12th rosedale albany auckland new zealand at bar savannah january 16th michigan city indiana burn elm brewing and february 6th another quartal virtual meetup okay well i love it get in there have some fun our circles tend to get a bit smaller later in life so here's a way to put a dent in that problem and that's it i'm really happy with the vast majority of interviews and new guests we got into in 2025 i look forward to opening up the format and bringing all sorts of new stuff out to you and some things might be

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a bit experimental some of these ideas are kind of weird but luckily plus members can always rate stuff and i will certainly lean into what seems to be the most well liked i'm not a crazy person but it is going to get quite fun all right well enjoy the new year's activities maybe a short break from work i always think this christmas new year season is kind of prime for psyops and attacks from the controller class they like to throw a wrench and all that excitement for the new year's activities so i'm going to go ahead and do that and i'll see you soon about the mayan calendar and cycles and change etc so i don't know 2026 isn't exactly a timeline milestone but they definitely don't like to see optimistic positive energy welling up so let's try to give them what they don't want I guess. Cheers. Thanks for keeping the faith in what I'm doing around here.

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15 years is a hell of a long ride and I hope we can get to 15 more. Take care of you and yours. Big thanks again to Professor Jiang, Harry Seldon of the East. Keep tabs on Predictive History and I'll see you on the other side. I've done my part. Your move, Sabbatean, Frankest, Faithfuls, Controller Class, Conversos, and Inverters of all that is good and holy. Your fucking move.

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It's so sad to see Running what they got Still can't be happy Even up on top It only makes sense Every star Too much pressure makes any ache Where it used to be Something rotten in ten Talking about it Only made us more In a certain sense of the phrase Look forward to tomorrow If we can just get through today There's something rotten in Denmark And in San Francisco Bay Plenty of problems in Paris I don't think Austin's okay Will they cast the law?
