--- title: "Predicting the Present Via the Past: Predictive History with Professor Jiang! transcript" description: "Source-synced transcript archive for Predicting the Present Via the Past: Predictive History with Professor Jiang!." source_title: "Predicting the Present Via the Past: Predictive History with Professor Jiang!" published_at: "2025-11-06" source_class: "interview" public_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/" markdown_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript.md" text_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript.txt" source_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU" data_url: "https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru.json" --- # Predicting the Present Via the Past: Predictive History with Professor Jiang! transcript - Source: [Predicting the Present Via the Past: Predictive History with Professor Jiang!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU) - Published: 2025-11-06, day precision - Human transcript page: [/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/) - Interview page: [/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/) - Transcript Markdown: [/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript.md](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript.md) - Transcript text: [/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript.txt](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript.txt) - Interview JSON: [/data/lens/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru.json](https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru.json) ## Transcript ### 0:17 seg-0001 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0001` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0001](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0001) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=17s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=17s) Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Libertarian Party interview series. My name is Stephen Akela, chairman of the Libertarian National Committee, and I'm pleased to welcome our guest, Professor Zhang, who's joining us from China. Professor Zhang became very popular recently due to his predictions of the pending war in Iran and has a YouTube channel, Predictive History, which I'm personally a big fan of. And so I'm very pleased to welcome Professor Zhang here. Thank you so much for coming on. ### 0:49 seg-0002 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0002` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0002](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0002) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=49s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=49s) Thanks so much, Stephen. ### 0:51 seg-0003 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0003` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0003](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0003) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=51s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=51s) So I wanted to ask you off the bat, Professor, your predictions of essentially the U.S. strikes in Iran and the Israeli -U.S. conflict in the Middle East that's continuing to be ongoing and could be a potential flashpoint for World War III. I wanted to get your thoughts on where. We go from here. But I also wanted to ask you, how did you how did you know what was going to happen? How did you come up with the formula to essentially predict what was going to happen a year ahead of time? And that, of course, brought you to a lot of YouTube fame. And now you have a lot of eyes and ears on you. And I think it's well deserved. But I'd be curious to know what your thoughts were leading up to that. ### 1:36 seg-0004 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0004` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0004](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0004) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=96s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=96s) Yeah, so the big clue for me was that in January 2020, Donald Trump, President Donald Trump, in his first term. Order of the assassination of General Salamani, Salamani, who is the Iranian ambassador in the Middle East, he's the one who runs the Shia militias in Iraq. He is the go between for Hezbollah and Hamas. So he's a very important figure. He's the de facto ambassador for Iran in the Middle East. And when you do that, when you assassinate an ambassador, that's a de facto declaration of war. And we've seen this throughout history. So the Mongols will. Come invade you if you kill one of the envoys. Persia launched a massive invasion of Greece because Sparta and Athens famously threw their ambassadors down a well. So in the Middle East, when you do that, that's a declaration of war. So then I start to ask myself, why would the United States declare war on Iran? And it turned out that there are actually a lot of reasons. ### 2:40 seg-0005 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0005` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0005](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0005) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=160s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=160s) One of the major reasons is that Iran has access to a lot of oil. Geopolitically, it's very important. It is the center of the world in terms of global trade. The Strait of Hormuz, it controls the Strait of Hormuz. So if we were to close down the Strait of Hormuz, it would shut down a third of oil transportation in the world, thus devastating the economies of China, North Korea, South Korea and Japan. And there's also the Saudi Arabia factor where Saudi Arabia is very close to Donald Trump. But Saudi Arabia and Iran are major geopolitical rivals. Then, of course, there's the fact that in 1979, the Iranians overthrew the Shah and that diminished American influence in Iran. So I think that the Americans have always been trying to get back into Iran. So there are tons and tons of geopolitical reasons. But my conclusion ### 3:33 seg-0006 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0006` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0006](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0006) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=213s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=213s) was that if Donald Trump won the election in 2020, in November, then he would have ordered an invasion of Iran. And when he lost. And I asked myself, well, what's the last thing? What's the likelihood of him winning 2024? And then I came to the conclusion that it given Biden's presidency, it was very likely that Trump would win the election. And then I could make the decision that Trump would eventually strike against Iran. And that's my reasoning. ### 4:00 seg-0007 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0007` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0007](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0007) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=240s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=240s) You know, as libertarians, I think we were unique in the sense that we we tend to study a lot of history, a lot of economics. We consider ourselves Austrian school economists. We're very. Privy on the Federal Reserve system and, of course, the global banking system. And I and one question I've had for a long time and I see the writing on the wall when Putin talks of a multipolar world. And I do see the rise of BRICS in the east and essentially the decoupling of the West, the decoupling of the the US as a reserve currency and essentially a separate system of world currency. They have their own World Bank. They have their own IMF. And they seem to be working more interoperably without the West. And I wanted to to to ask you, where do you predict the next several years, even decades to come going? What is going to be the fate for the West? ### 4:58 seg-0008 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0008` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0008](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0008) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=298s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=298s) And is there going to be a rise in the east? And can there be a multipolar world or will will this lead to global conflict? ### 5:05 seg-0009 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0009` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0009](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0009) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=305s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=305s) So when Putin talks about a multipolar world, he's really talking about the American empire, because, as you mentioned, the United States has the Federal Reserve system. And the problem of the Central Banking System is that you have to be all expensive. You have to consolidate wealth. You cannot allow for any dissent because a private central banking system relies heavily on the creation of debt. And if there are alternatives where people can invest in other nations, then that system doesn't really work. In fact, it's very likely the system will go bankrupt. And that's why the United States has been fighting these wars around the world for the past twenty years. years so -called war on terror right so you look at nations like iraq um afghanistan libya syria what distinguishes them is they don't have a private central banking system that united states can come and co -op okay so iran also doesn't have a private ### 5:57 seg-0010 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0010` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0010](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0010) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=357s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=357s) central banking system and that's why i think the united states is intent on war against iran and so the united states cannot afford a multi -polar world right now america is 37 trillion dollars in debt um it can only sustain itself if people continue to buy u.s treasuries in effect um the central banking system the federal reserve is a ponzi scheme and so um the united states is now sort of desperate i mean i hate to say this um but united states has actually no choice but to maintain hegemony otherwise the entire ponzi scheme the entire pyramid scheme collapses and and you know that that worries me and i think one of ### 6:36 seg-0011 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0011` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0011](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0011) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=396s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=396s) the things that libertarians have been very concerned about especially over the past uh of course since the invasion of uk well the second invasion of ukraine uh by russia the special military uh operation but of course our government in the west's participation in funding that conflict it seems to be on both sides this conflict they're viewing this as an existential issue on one side uh the west is willing to fight the russians down to the very last ukrainian and the russians are saying look we're not going to back down we will win this conflict we view it as a national security issue and uh you know we will win so if both sides are saying the same thing does this escalate to you know is this particular nuclear flashpoint do you see this war ending somewhere um you know where where are we ### 7:24 seg-0012 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0012` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0012](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0012) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=444s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=444s) going with this this conflict and is there an end in sight yeah so um i think the situation in ukraine right now it's pretty stark um and russia has won the war i i know that russia has not completed all its strategic objectives and ukraine still has a lot of power in the war has a lot of manpower and has a lot of resources it has the total backing of the american empire and nato um but what klosswitz tells us is that war uh is the battle to diminish the other others um will to fight okay and the reality is if you look at the front lines the the russians are highly motivated they're highly innovative um they've mastered drone warfare um they um feel as though this is a religious crusade to save russian civilization and on the ukrainian side you have mass assertions you have like tens of thousands um who are discerning ### 8:19 seg-0013 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0013` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0013](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0013) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=499s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=499s) um you know in provost um it seems as though the russians have encircled 10 000 ukrainian soldiers and it seems as though it is very likely that all 10 000 will have to surrender which is exactly what putin wants because if you do that um it's a tremendous public relations win and it sort of like diminishes the morale of the ukrainian side and it makes them much more willing to surrender or deserve so i think from a military perspective ukrainians have lost the war the problem as you say is that the americans nato cannot afford to lose this war because if they omit defeat and if they have a peace treaty with putin then there's going to be a full accounting for the public people are going to recognize the number of casualties in ukraine people are going to see the amount of resources the amount of debt that nato america has invested in ukraine ### 9:15 seg-0014 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0014` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0014](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0014) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=555s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=555s) and it's it's and i don't think people can possibly imagine the amount of resources nato has put into ukraine because for from nato's perspective as you say this is an existential war um it's all or nothing so um i mean you need to possibly put in hundreds of billions of dollars and these nato countries mainly france germany and britain cannot withstand that sort of debt so if there's a war there's a peace treaty and britain france and germany are forced to admit that listen we've invested hundreds of billion dollars into ukraine and this is not recoverable then these governments collapse you will have major political revolution in europe so nato cannot afford to lose this war um whether or not this goes nuclear conflict i think the answer is no and the reason why is that um russia doesn't need to use nuclear weapons to win this war um this war is a war of ### 10:11 seg-0015 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0015` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0015](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0015) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=611s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=611s) attrition uh russia uses trans -artillery warfare and it's a master of that and it and so this warfare it's really slow it's methodical it's calculating they do this to minimize casualties on both sides right this is to minimize civilian destruction of civil infrastructure because at the end of the day uh russia sees um eastern ukraine especially donbass as part of russian civilization it wants to be able to govern and manage the territory after after this war ends so it's been very methodical it's reduced as much um infrastructure as much destruction the critical infrastructure as much as possible so russia fights this war really slowly it's a slow grind and so you won't have a precipitating moment when russia feels it has to use nuclear weapons if russia doesn't use nuclear weapons europe cannot use nuclear weapons because if you're fighting this war in ukraine far away from your population centers what rationale do you have ### 11:06 seg-0016 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0016` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0016](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0016) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=666s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=666s) to use weapons right so i think what's going to happen is that this will be a slow bleed i think that um europe will slowly invest more and more into ukraine it'll be a mission creep where right now they have special forces um but eventually they'll start reinforcing the ukrainian front lines with mercenaries and there'll be mission creep and i think that the climatic battle will be odessa i think that in maybe two to three years time russia will encircle odessa and nato will make it last its last stand in odessa and because nato does not have the manpower to fight russia um then ukraine then europe is forced to introduce a draft and this will cause social and political revolutions within europe because these young men in europe don't really see a point of fighting russia russia is not a threat to europe everyone understands this um but europe is a threat to nato ### 11:58 seg-0017 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0017` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0017](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0017) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=718s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=718s) you're sorry russia is a threat to nato and europe and russia is a threat to the uh hegemony of the american empire um and so um yeah i mean like unfortunately the way that things stand um it's pretty obvious what will happen and and speaking of hegemony it ### 12:16 seg-0018 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0018` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0018](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0018) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=736s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=736s) seems like there may be a um a monroe doctrine conflict taking place in venezuela and i i wonder if that has to do with uh venezuela's close ties of course with china um and russia um perhaps they see it as an oil depot or perhaps just an easy target for a future conflict to get out of the way because i do don't see how and i'm not sure what the us is thinking or if the united states is that cavalier to consider fighting a war on three fronts um i wanted to get your take on the venezuelan conflict but also taiwan and and china and that question because it seems to me that the us has for a while been ambiguous about uh its position in that conflict whether or not it would defend taiwan um but it seems that since trump has been president that they've taken a stance it seems like quite a ### 13:11 seg-0019 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0019` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0019](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0019) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=791s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=791s) bit for semiconductors and potential flashpoint against a superpower so what are your thoughts on that is that is that something that's going to break out over the coming years or ### 13:20 seg-0020 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0020` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0020](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0020) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=800s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=800s) is that just uh uh posturing sure okay so um from a different perspective i don't understand venezuela because i feel as though united states and israel have committed to this war in iran and geopolitically that makes sense um because iran um is the center of the world so if you look at russia's um uh network the north south quarter it runs through iran like a china's belt and road initiative right it runs through iran europe um has something called the europe middle east india trade corridor so it's really the center of global trade so it makes sense geopolitically to want to control iran but then the question then is okay if you have made a decision to eventually go after iran and try regime change there why would then you lose focus and focus on venezuela um now you can say it's for oil but um sorry but iran has a lot of oil and ### 14:18 seg-0021 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0021` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0021](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0021) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=858s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=858s) the oil in in the middle east especially saudi arabia it's actually actually much more accessible um and easy to transport than the oil in venezuela the reason why um the oil in venezuela has not been fully developed even though it has the world's largest current reserves of oil is that it is actually extremely capital intensive to dig this oil and this oil um also like if you're interested in this oil first of all it's perfectly happy to sign a deal with you okay eventually it's perfectly happy to sell this oil to you on the cheap um so the oil doesn't make sense and then you're like okay well then it's to neuter uh russia and china but you know listen you have something called the manual doctrine and all great powers recognize that the western hemisphere is american territory and so russia and china are not interested in interference in the western hemisphere and if ### 15:09 seg-0022 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0022` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0022](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0022) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=909s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=909s) you're really interested in neutering uh russia and china then iran makes a lot more sense so from a political perspective i don't i i have difficulties explaining venezuela okay so i think what's happening in venezuela i have an explanation okay so i think when trump says that we're concerned about drug smuggling in venezuela and mexico in the western hemisphere i don't think he's lying i think that for trump the real enemy is not iran it's not russia it's not china the real enemy is the global state the global financial establishment and then you ask yourself okay then if that is the case if the city of london if the wall if wall street if these european elites um these american elites what is it that binds them together what is their main way of making money well then it's drug smuggling right so historically there are three um ways that you can make a lot ### 16:04 seg-0023 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0023` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0023](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0023) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=964s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=964s) of money for yourself okay the first is um debt so finance and gambling the second is slavery so human have or can have harvesting slavery okay but the third is drugs drug smuggling and so you know when britain uh launched opium wars it created this massive international network um of drug smuggling that included the banks okay so we know that hsbc hong kong um and shanghai bank corporation it's a major learning money i'm sorry major money laundering operation it's been ever since uh it's inception right so um so when when when trump says that you know we're going to have the the drug swing operation of the world what he's really saying is we're going after the global deep state we're going to have the cia right because which organization is the biggest drug drug winner in the world the cia okay so in other words i see what's going on in venezuela as a ### 16:59 seg-0024 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0024` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0024](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0024) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1019s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1019s) hidden civil war in the united states between different factions of the deep state right so if you're the u.s military and you're blowing up these fishing vessels that's kind of weird right expensive these these fishing vessels are not that expensive why why are you targeting instant civilians also remember this is the military so they have um lots of rules of engagement if they do not believe there's credible um um cause to uh attack these um fishing vessels they wouldn't do so I mean like like you know these are soldiers they they they have morality they have integrity of honor so I think they do have they do believe that these fishing vessels are transporting drugs and this is maybe you know the the shot heard around the world it's it's it's it's the first shot in in this war you know Trump has talked about Mexico going after the Mexican cartels and so I ### 17:51 seg-0025 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0025` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0025](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0025) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1071s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1071s) think that's that's what's happening I I don't think that Trump will launch a full -scale invasion of Venezuela because it's going to blow up in his face right it'll be like another Vietnam Venezuela is a very modernist country Venezuela has preparations for a guerrilla Warfare in case of an American invasion America doesn't have the manpower or the political will in Venezuela but what Trump can do is constantly threaten um drug drug trade routes to make it expensive for the global deep day to continue its drug smuggling operations if it does that then um I think the global deep state will be under a lot of pressure so I so that's my theory of on what's going on I have actually no idea but I can't explain it this otherwise no it's very interesting ### 18:32 seg-0026 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0026` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0026](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0026) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1112s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1112s) and um that is a very interesting topic as well um and and I would like your opinion on what what is what do you believe is the current apparatus of the of the deep state I know Ron Paul talked about the deep state for many years sometimes it's used to refer to bureaucrats that are deeply ingrained and um other times it can be used to uh describe things like secret societies like the Bavarian Illuminati or even skull and bones which is a the postgraduate Society at Yale and you know how much influence and how entrenched are these networks and you know how global does it go is it is this thing is is there truly no nationality to these to these players and if so um you know if if there is a a breakout between the West versus bricks does it do they pick a side or does it not matter to ### 19:23 seg-0027 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0027` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0027](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0027) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1163s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1163s) them I mean yeah so I think there are many different facets to global deep state um you obviously have these organizations right the CIA the NSA the FBI um you also have these major bureaucracies the EU you also have these major education Institute institutions uh Harvard Yale Free League um also LSE Oxford Cambridge okay uh University of Paris so on so you have these universities institutions you have families um the so -called 13 families that trace their origins way back to the Roman Empire um but I think um that today the main institution of the deep state are secret societies and so let me explain why um I think that two societies um have three characteristics the first is the ability to maintain secrecy right because once you enter it it's like you swear to maintain secrecy um um on the risk of of of death right that's number one number two is cohesion right ### 20:22 seg-0028 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0028` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0028](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0028) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1222s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1222s) these people um trust each other um and the third is coordination they're able to work together very well secretly so um why this is important is that today if you look at if you look at the world structurally it's very hard to get things done because for three reasons first is that you have the over -procratization of society right so you look at the federal government and you look at how it's grown these past 100 years the problem of bureaucracy of course is is that all these departments are settled off of each other they're everything is compromised it's always need to know so no one knows what each other department is doing it's very hard to get things done um bureaucracy has has made society very cumbersome right but if you're seeing society you can actually navigate bureaucracies because you have you have this um organization above bureaucracy okay so number one you have the ### 21:09 seg-0029 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0029` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0029](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0029) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1269s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1269s) over second thing is you have the rise of the individual which means the atomization of society right so in these individuals yeah yeah it's great you know you have all this freedom but you're not able to work with other people so if you know the organization that's able to coordinate um then then no matter how small they are they're still more effective than individuals working alone right and the third thing is uh globalization transnationalism right so people don't have as much ethnic identity as they used to before and so secret society sort of is a parasite on society because it's able to solve all three of the structural problems democratization individualization and globalization and that's why I think global societies are specifically powerful today uh so you look at like the Mormons the Jesuits the Freemasons uh a people called the Sabatine Frankus um um it's Christian Zionist Zionist they're all heavily embedded in the ### 22:09 seg-0030 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0030` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0030](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0030) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1329s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1329s) NSA uh the CIA the FBI basically the Pentagon America's National Security apparatus apparatus so I think it's these societies that actually control the world and it's dangerous because what allows these societies to thrive uh and to coordinate is their eschatology so they're all interested in starting a third world war in order to create a world government or to have the Messiah come or to have this Messiah return they're interested in um building uh the third Temple in Jerusalem which means destroying the Al -Aqsa Mosque uh which is the third holiest site in the Islamic world um and they're all interested in digital currency in the world government okay so so these societies are a threat to uh individual freedom around the world I I think you're absolutely right and I ### 23:01 seg-0031 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0031` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0031](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0031) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1381s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1381s) think um just the trajectory of of where we're heading really really speaks to or seems to indicate that that's um I I don't see us deviating from that course which is like at the current trajectory we are headed towards some kind of global conflict um it it I I I and that begs the question of you know there's this fifth generational warfare where um it might not be as obvious as say World War I or World War II but a lot of it is psychological a lot of it is manipulation um it seems to be uh I mean I I what do you what do you think about uh where we're headed in terms of global conflict do you see World War III breaking out kinetically or do you see this as sort of uh mostly a psychological operation or a hybrid um I mean where do we go from here and what do you ### 23:53 seg-0032 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0032` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0032](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0032) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1433s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1433s) predict ### 23:53 seg-0033 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0033` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0033](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0033) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1433s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1433s) over the next seven yeah yeah so I think in the age of nuclear weapons a kinetic war is extremely unlikely um you know if Russia and NATO were to go at like you know a slugfest then the entire world is threatened right so it's much more likely that if there's kinetic war we'll be against a non -nuclear power like Iran right so I see a U.S invasion of Iran at some point um so I don't think nuclear powers will go to war because it can mean the destruction of humanity so I think fifth generation warfare is much more likely okay so so it's important to understand some history okay so the French Revolution marked a massive turning point in world history because during the French Revolution the elite around the world recognized that wow the people can uh rise up and overflow us and guillotine us so let's um you know avoid that um ### 24:44 seg-0034 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0034` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0034](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0034) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1484s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1484s) so after the French Revolution after the public wars you had something called the concept of Europe which guaranteed peace um in Europe for about you know 40 50 years and then you have the 1848 revolutions when the people were almost on the custom of overflowing the entire ancient regime in Europe and then it was like oh wow we can't have any peace anymore because and the people will rise up against us eventually and that's why you have to lead up to World War I right because it's either you send your people to die off in the trenches or your people rise up and overflow you um and so that's world war one and world war ii now you have nuclear weapons so if you send people off to die um there's also there's always a risk of a nuclear war so warfare is really about now the capacity to maintain control of your population and ### 25:34 seg-0035 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0035` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0035](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0035) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1534s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1534s) the capacity to diminish um cohesion in other um uh in other nations right so when putin is from this war in ukraine he's funding this on on multiple fronts he's fighting in ukraine in the front lines of ukraine but mainly he's funding it in the world media right in um in in europe and and that's why putin is so supportive of these far -right populist parties because immigration is a is a wedge issue in in europe right so um so that's the nature of warfare today and so what you're trying to do really is trying to provoke a civil war now what's interesting is that if you're the elite of a nation civil war is also a possibility because civil war is a mechanism for you to reduce social discontent in society so um i think like in the united states there's all sorts of conspiracy theories right there's talk of instigating a civil war ### 26:29 seg-0036 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0036` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0036](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0036) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1589s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1589s) in the united states there's talk of project blue beam where they're trying to fake an alien invasion where you see it as more like a block of a collapse of the stock market in the cryptocurrency market um in order to create a depression in the united states so there's all these conspiracy theories and i think all these are manifestations of elite anxiety of how to maintain control after cobit right because colvin are a major turning point in history because now the people are like they don't know what they're doing you know they're competent right so so now there's real desperation among the elite so you have you had cove it and you have the epteian files and you have a series of Epson Island. You have the Biden presidency when the American people stopped believing in the competence of the gerontocracy. So you have all these issues. And so for the American elite, it's really how do you navigate these issues using psychological warfare. ### 27:21 seg-0037 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0037` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0037](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0037) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1641s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1641s) If you're an enemy of the United States, Russia specifically, it's how do you exaggerate these issues to create as much social discontent as possible in the United States. That's the nature of warfare today. ### 27:30 seg-0038 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0038` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0038](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0038) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1650s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1650s) Hmm. I think that's a very accurate depiction. I mean, everybody I talked to, especially the younger generations, are so discontent with any current U.S. leadership. They've lost faith in the system. It doesn't work for them anymore. And institutional trust among younger generations is at an all -time low. As a matter of fact, most libertarians tend to have very low institutional trust. I think that's why Javier Millet won in Argentina with his liberty advantage, and we're starting to see libertarian parties start to pop up around Latin America, in Europe, even in Russia, Cuba, and other countries, and a growing libertarian movement here at home. One thing I noticed, and I want to see if you agree with my thesis, it seems that there's rising socialism and rising, I don't know what exactly to call it, maybe far -right nationalism, or even kind of peeking behind the curtain at 20th century ideologies here in the United States and around the world. ### 28:30 seg-0039 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0039` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0039](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0039) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1710s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1710s) And so, you know, it almost seems to me like we're polarizing more politically in the U.S. and perhaps in the West. We just had Mamdani, who was a socialist, elected in New York. And so, do you see sort of extremes in politics with the next generation, and where do you think that's going to go? And this is a global phenomenon. ### 28:53 seg-0040 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0040` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0040](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0040) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1733s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1733s) Yeah, I think in the United States, political polarization has reached a tipping point. And so, I think, my concern is there's no longer any unifying ideology, there's no longer any unifying institution, there's no unifying person or purpose, right? So, you know, before, you had the American dream, and now people recognize that it's dead. Like, the dream now is to get out of debt or stay out of debt, and that's impossible nowadays, given the state of the economy. Before, there was a common enemy, maybe the Soviet Union, or, and now that, you know, America is the sole hegemon of the world, you know, it's like, what do you fight? Well, if you can't fight anyone else, you fight each other, which is exactly what happened to the Roman Republic, right? Because after Roman city Carthage and the Macedonians and the Greeks, there's no one else to fight, so they just, they just descend into civil war. ### 29:47 seg-0041 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0041` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0041](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0041) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1787s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1787s) So, that's a real threat in the United States. These institutions that unified the nation before, including the judicial system, the media, the education institutions, right, the universities, they're all, they've all been discredited, right? You have the universities engaging in DEI for a long, long time, so they've lost your legitimacy, they've lost your authority. The media had TDS, you know, Trump's derangement syndrome, for a long, long time. So, when Trump says the fake news, they're literally the fake news now, you know, like, I don't know about you, but I know I'm reading your times. I don't think they're reliable anymore. So, the media is gone. People don't watch TV anymore. People watch YouTube, and YouTube is like the spokenized world of media. So, because, self, territory, by, time, and um in the elite and and in in this sort of in in sort of in this sort of like situation what do you do about it ### 31:08 seg-0042 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0042` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0042](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0042) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1868s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1868s) right well i mean like i'm sorry but like you're kind of stuck ### 31:13 seg-0043 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0043` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0043](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0043) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1873s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1873s) yeah we're definitely in a state of gridlock um which which can be good or can be terrible depending on the situation uh it prevents uh both parties from advancing to some extent but i think also um as libertarians we we tend to view both parties as as two heads of the same snake they tend to agree on common issues when it comes to war when it comes to spending when it comes to uh sending military aid overseas or or for instance in covid they were both largely uh bipartisan in um their reaction to covid and uh i was at least pleased with the trump recently the libertarian national committee made a resolution about a year or two ago and i think it was a very good resolution and i think it was a very good resolution and i think it was a very good resolution uh to exit the world health organization we view that ### 31:59 seg-0044 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0044` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0044](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0044) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1919s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1919s) as a globalist entity that wants to take sovereignty over individual countries so that was exited but um there's still so much that's that happened five years ago that it we just haven't made up for it yet and i think uh it for a lot of people it was a wake -up call to um the just the psychology of of government and with this a simple switch uh they turned tyrannical uh even your local city council so i think for many people that was a huge wake -up call and um yeah it's it's something that we hopefully won't repeat but i i think human nature plays a ### 32:36 seg-0045 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0045` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0045](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0045) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1956s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=1956s) big role here look i think like these two parties democrats and republicans they they always agree on one thing which is like how to crush any third parties from arising okay it's a two -party monopoly um and honestly they cheat all the time uh and that's why it's hard for third and fourth party parties to arise and that's that's the root of a lot of issues another issue is democratic party has become ossified um it's become corrupt it only represents the you know pmc's the professional management class in the coast um it's it don't think it's really good at doing any more squashing dissent right so um you know if bernie centers won a nomination in 2016 the world would be very different uh the democratic party would be very different and i think i think american democracy would remember trump won in a democratic manner right so the republicans had a primary in 2016. ### 33:31 seg-0046 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0046` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0046](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0046) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2011s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2011s) it was a huge field and trump won by working hard by having a message that resonated with as many people as possible and by running the most um innovative campaign um but hillary clinton won by cheating and then biden won by just sitting back and letting obama do all the work so the democrats are a huge problem and i would argue that the current state of democratic party um it's greatest threat to democracy because um you know trump is intent on revolution project 2025 it is a global revolution and they're very open and public about this and they're doing a great great job in implementing their vision like look at how they're transforming the federal bureaucracy right so um so at this particular moment in history you need an effective opposition you need the democrats to have a grand vision to do this and they don't they simply don't their entire strategy is we'll let ### 34:29 seg-0047 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0047` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0047](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0047) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2069s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2069s) things get worse and worse and and and then next number november we're with the midterms and then we'll beat Trump and then we'll send trump to prison that's your entire strategy and it's not gonna work because um Trump's not stupid and uh Trump doesn't want to go to prison so I think that given the way things are given that um the democrats are so ineffective and so corrupt I think I I would bet that Trump gets a third term actually ### 34:55 seg-0048 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0048` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0048](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0048) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2095s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2095s) he would be able to uh change the rules and and try to go for a third term because I know there's some some people out there that are really going for that uh I I know JD Vance is of course seems to be his his next in line um Elon Musk is uh he was floating the idea of a third party um he seemed to back out that back out of that idea he seems to be supporting JD Vance for 2028 and maybe some republicans in the midterms but I'm not totally sure um I mean do you actually see uh Trump trying to really go for a third term and how how would he try to pull that off you think he would try to do something in the courts to make that happen yeah so I'm not optimistic about JD Vance ### 35:35 seg-0049 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0049` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0049](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0049) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2135s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2135s) okay because like just look at Mike Pence right just go back to the first term and look at Mike Mike Pence um also like if you just go back and look at Trump's history he's never had a protege he never had um so the idea that he's gonna let Vance take over from him in 2028 I think it's preposterous he doesn't have a have a history of doing this um so I think that Vance political career will be stunted in some way I I you know if you should look at this Charlie Kirk um thing JD Vance somehow got involved right I mean people people are making gossip about him and Erica Kirk and it's just outrageous but like why is this happening right um so I think there are elements within the Trump camp that are trying to sabotage events before 2028 and it's all very subtle I think Trump is intent on a ### 36:26 seg-0050 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0050` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0050](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0050) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2186s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2186s) third term how he will do so I don't know so the most logical the most obvious way is that if Trump runs as the vice president presidential candidate and his son Don or Eric one of the one of the two runs at the top of the ticket as the president um and look there are lots of legal loopholes here um there are lots of uh legal arguments but ultimately it's a Supreme Court that decides right and guess what the Supreme Court is run by the republicans at this point in fact Trump appointed three of the nine justices right so um I I think I my guess is that Trump will run as the VP and I would also guess that if that were the case then Obama would run as a Democratic VP so it would be a Trump Obama shown in 2028. that would be very interesting this would be the greatest show on ### 37:17 seg-0051 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0051` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0051](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0051) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2237s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2237s) Earth okay the entire world would watch the show I would actually look forward to it ### 37:26 seg-0052 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0052` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0052](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0052) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2246s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2246s) I I I think you know American politics it must be really interesting for the rest of the world of course we get a front row seat but whatever happens here is extremely consequential yeah everywhere else of course but it's probably the most entertaining at the very least um I did want to ask you what your thoughts were on Javier Mille Javier Mille he just won his second term um there was a lot of questions about um his running again he wasn't doing well in the polls uh wasn't doing well sweeped the elections up and did great and it seems to me that the people of Argentina really after decades of decay in Argentina um electing Millet going through austerity he was very upfront about it um it seems to be moving things around so he's the first Libertarian head of state what are your opinions on on Millet and do you see the possibility of ### 38:20 seg-0053 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0053` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0053](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0053) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2300s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2300s) uh libertarianism growing in in Latin America or around the world and you know what do you make ### 38:25 seg-0054 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0054` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0054](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0054) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2305s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2305s) of Malay himself yeah so I'll be honest with you I don't I don't know much about Malay um but but I think you know Argentina suffers from a parasitic bureaucratic state right and that's the source of all its problems so the people would want to you know like as Malay says take our chainsaw and tear it all down I think it makes sense my my issue is that um in the western hemisphere it's very hard to get things done without American approval um I think that unless you have the full support of American Deep State it's very hard to get things done and and that's why I don't really follow South American politics uh because I think a lot of decisions are actually made in Washington DC and not locally um so yeah yeah okay I did want to switch gears and ask you ### 39:12 seg-0055 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0055` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0055](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0055) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2352s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2352s) because I know you've talked about this before um why is it that there seems to be this obsession with uh with supporting Israel um why are so many American politicians in DC campaigning on Israel first that's and it really America's second or or really just having any country I don't care you know I'm Egyptian myself I would never campaign on Egyptian first that's my my father's country I consider myself an American but you know what is going on here is is the U.S government that bought and paid for and are there other countries that are that are like it you know that are that are so influenced by other parts of the world whereas it seems to me like Israel really is the uh the the ### 39:56 seg-0056 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0056` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0056](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0056) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2396s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2396s) number one influence a lot of politicians okay so I think there are different possibilities um and I'll just go over them okay the first possibility is Washington DC is as corrupt as everyone thinks it thinks it is right because Washington DC these politicians they only serve uh the interest of lobbyists if you pay them they'll do something if you don't pay them they'll do nothing okay the the the politicians in Washington DC have actually no um concern for the public for the national public interest and so um design is have money they're willing to spend it on furthering it's really interest and so Washington DC it's bought and paid for by Zionist interest okay that's that's one possibility second possibility is you know chromatic secret societies Israel is a very important part of their eschatology in fact Israel for them is the center of the world because that's where World War III will happen that's ### 40:45 seg-0057 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0057` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0057](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0057) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2445s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2445s) where the Messiah will return or the world government will be built they want to build someone's Temple so for all for all these different societies Israel is key so um so pawn in the eschatology okay that's the second explanation the third explanation is something that I'm much more supportive of which is this Israel the Jewish people have always been a construct of Empire okay so if you just look at a map historically the Levant has been geopolitically the most strategic part of the world why because for most of history Anatolia Mesopotamia Egypt the Mediterranean these four places were the four wealthiest places in the world in the center of control it was basically a linchpin to the world right if you control the Levant you can do access to Egypt you control access to Mesopotamia to Anatolia so it was a key region um and the way to govern Levant is to divide and conquer ### 41:40 seg-0058 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0058` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0058](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0058) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2500s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2500s) you don't want ever a powder Marshall Avant because that power could potentially um consume the entire world uh because of its geopolitical situation so so the best way to control um the law is by creating all these different minorities and all the time which is what happened in history right so the first first Empire to conceive of this idea is a Persian Empire so remember at this time in history this is about 500 BCE the Jewish nation is gone there's no more Israel the Babylonians have destroyed it and the Jewish elite uh sorry it's actually Israelite Italy okay Jew Jew is something that comes after the Persian Empire so the Israeli elite are hostages in Babylon they're not really hostage actually they've come absorbed into the Babylonian court system okay as um scribes as intellectuals when Cyrus the Great took over Babylon he needed to create conflict within the Levant right but that's how the ### 42:38 seg-0059 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0059` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0059](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0059) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2558s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2558s) Persians ruled for the run and conquer so he told the Israelites go back to um the Levant and reconstitute your nation of issue and I'll support you why it was divide and conquer right so and and we know this because remember in the Bible it says this when the Israelites went back they were disgusted because it seemed that Jews had assimilated with the local population so so the religion had been syncretic it was polytheistic uh Jewish men had married into had married um other Semitic woman and so it's a multicultural multi -religious um peaceful area and then and then the person said we don't want this so the um Israelites said okay fine what we'll do is we'll create a theocracy rule is that if you're a Jewish man you want to keep your faith you have to divorce any non -Jewish person think about how traumatic that would be for families right you're you're ### 43:36 seg-0060 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0060` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0060](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0060) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2616s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2616s) literally bringing apart families and this has never happened before in human history I mean this has ever happened before and so this created a lot of conflict in the region but that's the entire point of these policies to create a fanatical religion Elite that would only stir religious animosity within that area which has historically been extremely tolerant extremely diverse extremely uh religious okay and and then you know after the Persian Empire you had the um solution Empire you have the Roman Empire um so so that entire region is strategically very important and so you want to create as much conflict as possible so I would make the argument that look at like if you look at the state of Israel today it's a construct of the British Empire um if you look at Zionism it's a construct of Zionism which which was created by by the British and why did the British construct Christian Zionism ### 44:30 seg-0061 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0061` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0061](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0061) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2670s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2670s) and Zionism as a way to destabilize the Ottoman Empire right because the Ottoman Empire was a real what was a great threat to British interests in the Middle East so um you know I think that Israel is really a construct of Empire of Imperial interest and so in many ways issue is a pitbull uh for America right because um you know Israel causing all its all this problems all this mayhem in the Middle East it gives America possible deniability right so you know when they go bomb Libya and Syria and um Iraq and Afghanistan for the interest of Central Bankers like well it's not us it's the Israelis you know it's all these Jewish interests in Washington DC who are manipulating us it's a catch -up exactly and in that thing I would keep on saying this you know every for the past 20 years he's like we control America we Jews control all you ### 45:23 seg-0062 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0062` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0062](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0062) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2723s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2723s) know the senators and Epstein was a Mossad agent and blah blah why is Netanyahu the Prime Minister of Israel saying this which is against the interests of the state of Israel right if you are actually in control of America would you omit this uh publicly well I think it's because now you know who is a American asset that's why that's why so so there's a few different possibilities um yeah I I I prefer the the the third possibility because it explains a lot more than the possibilities so yeah ### 45:52 seg-0063 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0063` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0063](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0063) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2752s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2752s) you know it makes it makes a lot of sense um yeah trying to trying to make sense of a lot of things the government does can be can be tough and and why why they do it a lot of times because we would hope that our politicians uh work for us and and represent us and you know they were all good capitalists and free marketeers and everything else uh uh pro individual freedom folks but but we're we're we're still trying to make sense of of the whole landscape um um let's see I did And we touched on cryptocurrency for a bit. I did want to ask you, because in your opinion, you know, cryptocurrency is such an interesting thing. And I have heard some speculation that perhaps Satoshi Nakamoto wasn't actually who he says he was. He was, of course, somebody who disappeared. We don't know his true identity. He could be a group. He could be a number of people. ### 46:50 seg-0064 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0064` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0064](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0064) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2810s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2810s) And now I did hear from recently from I believe it was a Russian ambassador who said that the U.S. is planning to default on the debt and essentially move over to a cryptocurrency or digital currency. The Central Bank Federal Reserve has been pushing central bank digital currencies for a long time. I believe the EU European Central Bank has been trying to do something similar. And it's already something that exists in some form in China. So in your opinion, because I've always been fascinated by cryptocurrencies, I've been involved in the industry from from an early age in my college years and kind of dabbled in it. It seems to me that the the genesis of cryptocurrency, which is Satoshi Nakamoto, it kind of goes unquestioned. It's like this big bang. Well, you know, there was this white paper and and then Satoshi disappeared. And there's a lot of cryptocurrency held up in a wallet somewhere that's worth billions of dollars. ### 47:46 seg-0065 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0065` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0065](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0065) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2866s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2866s) And maybe he was a Kikikomori and just died and nobody knew. Maybe he was the NSA. We don't know. What is your opinion, both on cryptocurrency? And I'd be curious what your opinion is on central bank digital currencies as well. I mean, yeah. ### 48:04 seg-0066 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0066` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0066](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0066) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2884s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2884s) So listen, I mean, Satoshi Nakamoto in Japanese, it literally translates. It's into central intelligence. Right. And or central wisdom, central intelligence, basically. So if you just like analyze it from first principles, OK, 2008, this white paper is launched and the blockchain is launched. OK, now you have like certain questions. The first question is, who are the resources to build the blockchain? Because people say it's decentralized. But at the end of the day, all software runs on hardware. OK. So who's paying for the servers, who's paying for the fiber optic networks, you know, who like where's the hardware stored? OK, that's number one. Number two is why why would someone do this? What what incentive, what motive would someone have to to to do this? OK. And the third thing is why would someone keep his identity secret? Right. Because like, you know, if you spend all your time building this thing, would you want to be like a billionaire, right, or a trillionaire? ### 49:12 seg-0067 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0067` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0067](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0067) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2952s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2952s) So if you just. Like, look at these three questions and you just do some first person thinking, the logical the only logical conclusion is that the people who built this is probably DARPA, the defense arm or the Defense Research Agency of the Pentagon. Why? Because the DARPA built the Internet, they built GPS. OK, then you're like, who would want to use this? And the answer is CIA and NSA, because they they fund all these terrorist organizations. They finally spoke about the world and they need a mechanism to do so. Right. And the third is why would they keep a secret? And the answer is to create value. Right. Because if if you don't if you believe it's the Pentagon who created this, no one's going to touch this thing. But you think that it's decentralized and it's anonymous and it's forever safe and the government can never touch this, then you would invest in it. ### 49:58 seg-0068 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0068` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0068](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0068) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2998s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=2998s) OK, so one key is that the Beckel Voss twins, right, they sued Mark Zuckerberg because their claim is that Facebook was their idea and Mark Zuckerberg saw it from him. This court case dragged on for like years and years. And they could afford it because their father was a hedge fund manager and they got like a $60 million settlement and that's like a third of that or something along the lines. I don't know the exact numbers into Bitcoin when Bitcoin was like a few cents. Right. Why would you do that? Why would you, you know, spend that much money on Bitcoin? No, no, no, no one else did that until they're billionaires. So clearly they had some inside information that no one else else did because your father is a hedge fund manager. Right. It's a rigged game. So so I think Bitcoin is a. Deep state ### 50:44 seg-0069 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0069` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0069](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0069) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3044s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3044s) project that has worked tremendously, tremendously well, and it allows the CIA and other deep state actors to money launder. But more importantly, it allows the state actors to have conscious surveillance over the most nefarious elements of the world, including North Korea. Right. So it makes perfect sense for Bitcoin to have been invented by the NSA or DARPA or whichever deep state actor that said. I still think digital currency is the future because I live in China and we our society has digital currency. The reason why is we have digital ID. Right. So you need digital ID before you have digital currency. Otherwise it sort of defeats the purpose. So we have digital ID. And so it's very easy, almost seamless to transition into digital currency. It's made life remarkably fast and frictionless for everyone. Right. So, like, I don't carry cash anymore. I no longer have to worry about having my. Cash. Stolen or lose ### 51:43 seg-0070 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0070` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0070](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0070) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3103s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3103s) losing my wallet or whatever. I just pay everything online. You can do all sorts of like really complex transactions very easily nowadays. So it's a tremendous convenience. The problem is that it's not a problem in China because there's no freedom in China anyway. Right. But in America, you're just used to having certain freedoms like the right to speak your mind. Well, you know, it could be a problem because digital currency is programmable. They can they can control your behavior by controlling how you spend your money. And so digital currency, it's really the mark of the beast. Right. I mean, it's really the creation of all libertarian principles. And I think I think that's the future. The problem, though, is that digital currency to gain popularity, you need a crisis. You need to manufacture a crisis. Otherwise people will refuse to accept it. Right. So COVID was a good opportunity because everyone's sick at home and they have to order food. ### 52:41 seg-0071 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0071` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0071](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0071) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3161s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3161s) They have to like. They do all these transactions online. So COVID was an opportunity and it's possible they manufacture another crisis in order to basically roll out digital currency. Certainly, you know, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk all heavily invested in this idea. You know, Palantir would benefit a great deal from digital currency. So it's very dystopian. Right. You know, it's I mean, I mean, the idea of like losing. You're right to speak, you know, losing your right to speak your own opinions. I mean, it's really the corruption and the degradation of the human soul, I think. ### 53:23 seg-0072 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0072` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0072](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0072) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3203s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3203s) You know, it's it's something that libertarians, of course, hold very near and dear is this ability to be able to transact using currency. And the Treasury just recently stopped minting pennies because it costs three times as much to mint a penny than it is to what the actual face value of it is. Of course, that's an issue of inflation. But I think we are heading towards digital currencies, I think, with credit cards and Apple Pay and everything else. We haven't been forced to yet, but if they start phasing out currency because it's worthless, it may it may force us into a cashless society, which, of course, experiencing COVID and even just reading revelations, I think, starts to move the imagination. And as we enter this sort of minority report style. What do you say? with Palantir, you know, the pre -crime, this seems to be something that may come up. I didn't want to ask you about AI and the importance of AI. ### 54:19 seg-0073 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0073` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0073](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0073) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3259s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3259s) I think Putin at one point had mentioned that the country that wins the AI race will essentially author the future, paraphrasing a bit, that AI seems to be extremely important. I don't even fully grasp without a monumental of a change AI will bring to society. I can see it. I've used ChatGPT and these other services. They're profound, but I think we're looking ahead. There's probably orders of magnitude increase in its impact on society. How do you think AI is going to impact society over the next several years and how are governments going to be utilizing AI? ### 54:59 seg-0074 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0074` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0074](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0074) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3299s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3299s) Yeah, so AI is a very big thing because it's a side -off, right? So let me explain why, okay? First of all, all authority is breaking down, right? The media, you don't want to trust the media. You don't want to trust universities. So you need a new institution to legitimize your authority, to control people, to brainwash people, right? And that makes sense, right? Because I mean, like, when you talk to ChatGPT, you think, okay, well, this must be an AI, so it must be objective. And people fall for this crap, okay? So AI is a very important side -off for the government. Also, the economy is not doing well. And a lot of it is the over -pricedization of society, where corporations have too many people, government has too many people. So how do you justify laying off all these people that are redundant? Well, you say, AI, sorry, man. It's not us, it's AI, even though AI doesn't really do anything. ### 55:53 seg-0075 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0075` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0075](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0075) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3353s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3353s) So you look at Twitter, right? I mean, like, when Musk came in, he fired, like, 1,000, 1,000 employees, and he had, like, a skeleton crew. And Twitter's still fine because, like, once you set up these complex organizations and software, you don't really need that many people to run them, right? So AI, it allows for the laying off of millions of people. And so you can shift blimps. It's not us, the managers, it's the AI system that's taking over. So that's the second thing. And the third thing is that AI allows for the greater concentration of wealth, right? Because what is AI? AI is basically data centers. And so it allows the government to consolidate not just wealth, but also information. The problem with data centers, of course, is that they're prohibitive and they're prohibitively expensive. They consume a community's entire electricity and fresh water. And so AI may destroy the environment. ### 56:49 seg-0076 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0076` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0076](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0076) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3409s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3409s) But from the government's perspective, it's a very important sign -off. In fact, it's basically the last hope, right? You know, because, like, how else are you going to brainwash people? Like, people are waking up. You know, people now are much more informed. They're much more capable of their own independent thought than previously, you know? So you need a new mechanism to start gaslighting people, to start brainwashing people. And that would be AI. ### 57:15 seg-0077 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0077` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0077](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0077) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3435s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3435s) I think one thing is absolutely for sure, too, as AI increases its usefulness, these tariffs, these supposed jobs that are coming back to the United States, there's not jobs coming back. There's no automation. That's right. And I don't think people fully realize that yet. In just about every industry, they're trying to cut labor due to inflation. And if the U.S. is, supposedly, going to compete with China, which I'm not sure if that's possible or not, in terms of manufacturing, it's going to require an AI revolution. And I think that's probably where we're headed. And I think a lot of people are going to be put out of a job. I'm not sure what the societal impacts of that are going to be, but they're not going to be pretty. ### 58:00 seg-0078 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0078` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0078](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0078) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3480s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3480s) That's why you need war. Yeah. You probably think most unemployed people, when you send them, you send them off to war, right? ### 58:09 seg-0079 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0079` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0079](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0079) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3489s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3489s) Problem solved. Yeah. Yeah. No, it seems to be all lining up to head in that direction. I just have a few questions left for you as we come up on our hour. First, we'll start with geopolitics. Where do you see, do you see any major global conflicts over the next few months or the next few years? We'll start up there. ### 58:33 seg-0080 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0080` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0080](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0080) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3513s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3513s) Yeah. So I think the Ukraine thing will continue to escalate. I think that eventually, you will converge in Odessa. So I think Ukraine will always be a global flashpoint. I think that eventually the United States and Israel will attack Iran. I don't know the timeline. It could be, it could be soon. You know, I've heard rumors of like by December, which is very fast. Okay. But it's entirely possible they move it back until like next spring or whatever. Okay. So I see these as two major flashpoints. I don't see Taiwan as a flashpoint. I think that both China and United States are status quo powers. They're very heavily invested in a global financial system that an invasion of Taiwan would destroy globalization. I mean, because AI is going to be run off semiconductors manufacturing Taiwan, right? It's just one company. It's absolutely ridiculous how everyone relies on this one company in Taiwan manufacturing all these chips. ### 59:35 seg-0081 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0081` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0081](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0081) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3575s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3575s) And China doesn't really benefit from, basically torpedoing the global economy. It got wealthy because of the global economy. So I think both China and United States are heavily invested in trying to make the world as peaceful and prosperous as possible. And I think that when Trump visits China, which is scheduled for next April, you will see major rapprochement between China and United States. Already we're seeing some rapprochement, you know, like nowadays, you know, you have these major neocons coming out and say, you know, like maybe China could be our friend, because Russia is our enemy, right? Maybe it's not smart to fight all these wars on different fronts, right? If we're going to fight wars in Ukraine and Iran and Venezuela and Nigeria or wherever, you know, like let's not fight this war in Taiwan straight, right? So I think Taiwan will not be an issue. And in fact, I think that we'll see a gradual improvement in US -China relations. ### 1:00:31 seg-0082 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0082` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0082](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0082) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3631s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3631s) But I think North Korea could be an issue because, you know, North Korea would benefit a lot from causing all this mayhem in Southeast Asia, right? And all North Korea has to do is threaten artillery strikes against Seoul, right? Because all of South Korea is basically 30 minutes away from an artillery strike from North Korea. And then North Korea could financially benefit, right? I mean, it's basically extortion. So I think North Korea could be a flashpoint as well. But I think civil war in the United States, I think civil war in Europe will be very likely scenarios in the next two to three years, especially as we approach the 2028 election. I predict that after 2028, you will have massive civil discontent in the United States because whoever wins, half the country will be upset. And I think we've reached a breaking point where people are just no longer willing to put up with us anymore. ### 1:01:27 seg-0083 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0083` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0083](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0083) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3687s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3687s) You know, people are just disgusted with everything that's going on. With AI, people are going to lose their jobs. Government shutdown means people are going to starve. I mean, the conditions are being set for a major conflict within the United States. That's my fear. ### 1:01:43 seg-0084 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0084` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0084](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0084) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3703s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3703s) I think, unfortunately, you're right about that. I see that almost all hope has been lost in the political system at this point. There are, you know, wins, ground being gained by some in certain areas. But as a whole, the problem just seems too large in some cases to really resolve, especially when we talk about the federal government specifically. I always think there's work that can be done at the local level. But when you have somebody like a Thomas Massey, for instance, or a Justin Amash or a Rand Paul who says, look, you know, we're not going to vote for the big, beautiful bill, he gets primaried by the Republican establishment. So clearly, even among the GOP or conservatives or libertarian leading conservatives or libertarians who may have supported the GOP, you know, we can see that internal divide. And it's very stark when it's brought to the surface because here's somebody who, they thought they were voting for this on a wider scale. ### 1:02:43 seg-0085 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0085` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0085](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0085) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3763s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3763s) And guess what? They're not. And the establishment wants to remove that person. So I think there's a lot of splintering within both the GOP, the Democrats, and really at macro level, the United States as a whole. And that kind of leads to my next question, which is, in a general sense, where do you see, sort of the spiritual battle? It seems to be affecting Europe and even China as well as the United States to some degree. There's a lot of young people, I think the Gen X and Gen Alpha, or excuse me, Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and of course the millennials as well that have already got the head start into it that are, statistically, they're at the lowest level of institutional trust. Are we going to see an awakening? Do you see hope? You know, what's your interaction been with the youth? You know, what do you see is the way out of it? ### 1:03:39 seg-0086 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0086` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0086](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0086) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3819s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3819s) Or will there be a sort of spiritual revolution or intellectual revolution? ### 1:03:44 seg-0087 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0087` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0087](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0087) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3824s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3824s) Yes, that's a great question. So thank you for it. You know, what has made America great is the American character, right? And American values, freedom, courage, independence, right? We're getting individualism, the frontier thesis, right? So that's what's made America great. And that's what continues to make America great. Unfortunately, these young people have been brainwashed to think that freedom's not important, safety is important, right? That's why you have DEI, you know, safety is what's important, safetyism. And it's degraded the American character. And so I think it is a spiritual battle. I think that freedom is what gives people purpose and life, and without it, then they're basically zombies, right? And I know this because I live in China. So, you know, people have to strive for freedom. It's not given to you anymore, right? And so young people nowadays, if they are to be free, they have to fight for it. They have to start thinking for themselves. ### 1:04:54 seg-0088 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0088` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0088](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0088) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3894s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3894s) And, you know, COVID was a big test. I mean, like, if you were able to maintain your independence during COVID, then you'll be much more resilient for the tribulations coming ahead. So I believe there are tribulations coming ahead. So I think that those who are resilient, those who are independently minded, those who believe in freedom, they're much more likely to survive than those who believe in safetyism, right? Who are conformists, who are obedient. So it is a battle, and it's an internal individual struggle, right? It's a question of like, you know, these crises are coming, there's no way to prevent them. And if you are aware of these crises, and if you are aware of other crises, of the root of these crises, if you strive for industrial freedom, then you'll be much more likely to survive and to thrive in this new era that we're heading towards. ### 1:05:47 seg-0089 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0089` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0089](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0089) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3947s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=3947s) I think that's absolutely right on. I think there's so many people around the world, not even just Americans, have forgotten what it means to be free or what it is to strive to be free. And why would they even want to be free? I think freedom leads to self -actualization, and I think self -actualization is very dangerous. To the elite. And you can squash that by keeping people in line. The last question I had for you, Professor, since we're talking about your YouTube channel's predictive history, is what are some books or historians that you admire that inspired you? I'm a big student of history from the Great Depression to Nicola Machiavelli. I think he's got a bad rap. Sun Tzu, you know, a lot of great thinkers that revolutionized politics. Of course, Murray Rothbard, Bastiat, Ludwig von Mises, of course, on the libertarian side. But there's so much history to explore. What tools and books and philosophies has helped you to do what you do? ### 1:06:58 seg-0091 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0091` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0091](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0091) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4018s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4018s) Yeah, so my favorite historical book of all time is The Peloponnesian War by Thucydides. Mm. And you can read over and over, because it's such a complex work. But it's an amazing work because it's so objective, right? Because Thucydides, he was an Athenian general. So you would think that it would just be propaganda. But, you know, he talks trash about Athens. So, you know, it's one of those great qualities about the Greeks of that time. They saw themselves as citizens of the world. You know, they really didn't identify tribally. They really tried to strive for human consciousness. So I think Thucydides' The Peloponnesian War is definitely worth reading. It's highly entertaining. The only problem is that it's a very complex work. And you're gonna spend years trying to figure out what he's really saying. But he's so honest that, you know, it's a treasure trove of information about how we behave, about what drives history. ### 1:07:54 seg-0092 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0092` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0092](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0092) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4074s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4074s) So that I would recommend. I would also recommend Peter Turchin. He has a concept called elite overproduction. And he's written quite a few books based on this idea that what drives historical change is actually conflict within nations, especially among the elite. An empire always reaches a point where you have too many elite, and they're just, you know, parasites. And so they're fighting over who gets to be the parasite. And that's why you have civil wars. You know, that's what explains the French Revolution. That's what explains the Roman Republic, the fall of the Roman Republic, the rise of Julius Caesar. So I highly recommend Peter Turchin. There's a British historian, Anthony Beaver, a Beaver. B -E -E -V -O -R. He's written lots of really interesting books about World War II. That's worth picking up. And he's really entertaining. These British historians, I will have to say, they are great writers. They are really interesting storytellers. ### 1:08:50 seg-0093 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0093` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0093](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0093) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4130s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4130s) Basically, you know, like, I think anything by a British historian is worth picking up because it's so entertaining. So yeah, I mean, those would be my recommendations. ### 1:09:01 seg-0094 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0094` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0094](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0094) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4141s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4141s) Well, fantastic. Professor, this has been, this has been really fun. Very, very insightful. I think our audience is really going to enjoy this. Did you have anything else you wanted to say or mention or talk about? Or do you have any questions for me? ### 1:09:15 seg-0095 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0095` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0095](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0095) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4155s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4155s) No, I mean, like, it's been so much fun. These are great questions. You know, it seems that a lot of values are aligned and we went really deep into certain topics. So I really hope we can do this again sometime. ### 1:09:28 seg-0096 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:interview-7qz4kmtbvru@transcript:v1#seg-0096` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0096](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-7qz4kmtbvru/transcript/#seg-0096) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4168s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz4kmtbvRU&t=4168s) That'd be fantastic. Professor, thank you so much. And I look forward to continuing to follow your work. Thank you.