--- title: "⚡WW3: A Major War Begins In OCTOBER w/ Prof. Jiang transcript" description: "Source-synced transcript archive for ⚡WW3: A Major War Begins In OCTOBER w/ Prof. Jiang." source_title: "⚡WW3: A Major War Begins In OCTOBER w/ Prof. Jiang" published_at: "2025-10-01" source_class: "interview" public_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/" markdown_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript.md" text_url: "https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript.txt" source_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo" data_url: "https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo.json" --- # ⚡WW3: A Major War Begins In OCTOBER w/ Prof. Jiang transcript - Source: [⚡WW3: A Major War Begins In OCTOBER w/ Prof. Jiang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo) - Published: 2025-10-01, day precision - Human transcript page: [/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/) - Interview page: [/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/) - Transcript Markdown: [/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript.md](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript.md) - Transcript text: [/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript.txt](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript.txt) - Interview JSON: [/data/lens/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo.json](https://jianglens.com/data/lens/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo.json) ## Transcript ### 0:00 seg-0001 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0001` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0001](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0001) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=0s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=0s) These people are deadly serious. They have this plan for the past 20 years of going to the Middle East and just destroying that region and making Israel the dominant power in that region. There's only one more power left, and that's Iran. I'm expecting, within the next week or two weeks, for Israel to resume its strikes against Iran. And eventually, I think this will culminate in an underground invasion. This will allow Putin to consolidate his grip over Ukraine and Europe. When you come to China, no one's talking about a war between China and Taiwan. It's the Pentagon promoting the idea of a war because the Pentagon is always looking to justify its existence. The military has become a bureaucracy. It has a signal, which is, play ball or you will be purged. It's that simple. No matter how you analyze it, the groundwork is being laid for a massive campaign somewhere. This is unprecedented. This is a major signal that something big is happening. ### 0:54 seg-0002 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0002` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0002](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0002) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=54s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=54s) America is a Ponzi scheme. It's either, you know, your entire economy, I mean, collapses or you fight these wars. And so they're going to fight these wars. World War Three is already happening. This is a house of cards, and it is in the process of collapsing right now. You're going to see an economic crash, the likes of which we've never seen. ### 1:17 seg-0003 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0003` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0003](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0003) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=77s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=77s) Hi, folks, Canadian Prepper here. Today on the channel, I'm joined by the one and only Professor Jiang from the Predictive History YouTube channel. He's a Beijing based educator, Yale educated, and his secret history, and geo strategy lectures have drawn a massive audience. His videos recently going viral, has a lot of momentum here on YouTube, and it's a honor to talk to him today. I know you see things through the rubric of game theory, and I'm wondering if maybe you could give us the high level view of what, where you see things going in terms of geopolitical calamity. Are we heading into World War Three? What does that look like to you? And how do we understand that through the prism of game theory? ### 2:09 seg-0004 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0004` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0004](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0004) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=129s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=129s) Sure. So it's great to be on your show, Nate. And again, I've been watching your show for quite a number of years now. So I really appreciate your analysis. I really agree with you on many, many viewpoints about the world today. So I think the next five years, there'll be two major flashpoints in the world. The first will be the Middle East. Of course, I'm expecting within the next week or two weeks for Israel to launch, to resume air strikes against Iran. And in round two, we expect that the flooding will be much more sustained, much more fierce. And eventually, I think this will culminate in a ground invasion, an American ground invasion of Iran. So I think that is one major flashpoint that will be consistent for the next five years and something that we must watch very, very closely. And secondly, flashpoint, of course, is Ukraine. NATO will slowly be drawn into Ukraine. ### 3:09 seg-0005 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0005` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0005](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0005) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=189s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=189s) Quite honestly, NATO has been fighting Russia for the past three years. So even though it is Ukrainian troops, it's still NATO financing, NATO weaponry, NATO targeting, NATO intelligence, NATO special forces. So it's basically NATO but without the ground troops. But I think that as the Ukrainian front lines continue to dwindle, NATO will have no choice but to reinforce the front lines with ground troops. And I think the culmination of the war will be Odessa. I think that if you just look at current trends, the elections in Moldova, which we're going to talk about, the threats against Kaliningrad, the possibility of besieging Transnistria, I think the conflict will culminate in Odessa. I think that what will happen is that the Russians will encircle Odessa and force NATO to reinforce Odessa. And Odessa will become NATO's home. I think NATO will lose in Odessa. What's really important is the repercussions of these two flashpoints. So I think ### 4:12 seg-0006 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0006` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0006](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0006) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=252s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=252s) that as this war in Iran continues to ramp up, Israel will be more extreme in its behavior. So one thing that we should look out for is the possibility that the Al -Azhar Mosque in Jerusalem will be destroyed. Now, as you know, the Al -Azhar Mosque is the third holiest site in Islam. And if it is destroyed in order to make way for the building of the third temple, then we can see massive discontent throughout the Islamic world. And this may cause actually revolutions within the Islamic world. Places like Jordan are particularly vulnerable to a revolution right now. This war in Ukraine could also create civil conflict in Europe as well. The governments in France, in Britain, are extremely fragile and vulnerable right now. There's extreme discontent in these nations. People are now protesting mass immigration. So if there's a draft, then we can expect that the young people would rebel against the draft. ### 5:19 seg-0007 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0007` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0007](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0007) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=319s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=319s) And this would cause tremendous civil conflict within Europe. And also in America, we can see that America is becoming more and more aggressive. So we can expect America to eventually organize airstrikes against Venezuela with the intention of toppling the regime. So I think it's very simple for America to replace the regime in Venezuela. The regime is very unpopular. There's tremendous economic inequality in Venezuela. America is still the world's most powerful military. But the problem is that if you do this to Venezuela, then all of South America is going to react negatively to it. America loses its soft power. It loses its legitimacy. And you can see massive discontent arise in South America against American hegemony. You know, the American empire, I mean, its main tool for management is soft power. It's legitimacy. And if it loses its legitimacy, if it loses authority, then it will be very hard for the American empire to sustain itself. So I think these are the two major flashpoints that we're going to see. ### 6:26 seg-0008 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0008` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0008](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0008) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=386s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=386s) Odessa and Iran. And I think that these two flashpoints will cause like a political earthquake throughout the world that may culminate in civil conflict and possibly revolutions as well. So that's how I see the world in the next five years. ### 6:39 seg-0009 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0009` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0009](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0009) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=399s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=399s) Well, that's pretty high level. We haven't really touched on Taiwan, but we don't want to overcomplicate things here. So with respect to Iran, then apparently the news just came in that there was more THAAD deployments, another four launchers. Yes. And so to me, that's kind of the setup. And you have all this tanker activity right now, these KC -135s flying around Europe. But I think that's what we've seen prior to, you know, we've seen a lot of signaling and misdirection prior to the last Iranian attack, attack on Iran. So what makes you think that it's going to be in the next few weeks? I mean, today, Trump and Netanyahu came out and said, hey, we got this. It's going to be eternal peace in the Middle East. They're saying. So problem solved. Right. Isn't this isn't the situation resolved now as a result of this? ### 7:37 seg-0010 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0010` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0010](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0010) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=457s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=457s) Right. So first of all, we have to be very suspicious of what Trump and Netanyahu say, right? ### 7:41 seg-0011 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0011` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0011](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0011) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=461s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=461s) Because just for the record, yeah, sarcasm. Yeah, right. ### 7:46 seg-0012 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0012` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0012](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0012) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=466s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=466s) So, you know, right before Trump attacked Iran, there was peace negotiations. Right. So it was almost like they caught Iran off guard or they were taking advantage of Iran. So I think that, you know, right before they strike, they want to present an image as a peacemaker. And I don't know why they do this. Maybe it's because it's a joke. You know, maybe they think it's really funny that they do this. They have all these inside jokes among them. I mean, it's really a cult what they do. But the signs are pretty obvious. So certain signs is that Iran themselves have come out and said that they expect to be attacked within the next week. Russia passed. The news agency have said. That they expect Iran to be attacked. Recently, Iran has returned, has paid off all its outstanding obligations to the IMF. So it's obviously that has been clear. Iran was removed from the SWIFT system. ### 8:49 seg-0013 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0013` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0013](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0013) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=529s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=529s) And as you say, there's all this military buildup. So and so I just feel like all these things are just massive signals to us that other attack is being prepared. And I think the last step is for Trump to meet with his generals, which is expected sometime this week. I'm not sure what the date is, but, you know, actually, okay, tomorrow, but this is our tomorrow. ### 9:13 seg-0014 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0014` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0014](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0014) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=553s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=553s) Your today. Right. September 30th. ### 9:17 seg-0015 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0015` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0015](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0015) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=557s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=557s) So, so, so we, so as you said many times, this is unprecedented. This is a major signal that something big is happening now. There have been different rumors. There's rumors of a. Because, you know, the military is top heavy. You've got like 44 star generals for about 1.32 million combat soldiers. That's just ridiculous. So we can expect downsizing, but there's also rumors that these officers, these generals will have a swear loyalty to Trump rather than constitution. I don't think that's likely, but it's also possible. But I think that no matter how you analyze it, the groundwork is being laid for a massive campaign somewhere. Maybe it's Venezuela. Maybe. It's Iran. I expect both places actually, but, but I think, I think they're calling for the meeting because they want to prepare the military bureaucracy for a conflict. ### 10:11 seg-0016 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0016` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0016](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0016) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=611s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=611s) Yeah. It seems like, cause I mean, there've been big wars in the past where they didn't call all the generals, you know, like Vietnam, you know I'm sure the Korean war, the, the Iraq war, and I don't think it's historically precedented to call all of your generals into. One place. I think they're going to, I think, put on a public show, but I think there's also going to be obviously something that happens behind the scenes that we don't see, and whatever is discussed at that meeting, I think will is really the, the pith of what, what is going on there. ### 10:49 seg-0017 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0017` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0017](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0017) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=649s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=649s) Well, well, I think that Hex said in trouble, center signal, which is play ball, or you will be purged. It's that simple. Um, so I think that what you're looking for. don't appreciate is that the military has become a bureaucracy and these are bureaucrats who are interested in meeting their privileges and so they're going to play along so even though in their hearts they know that um attacking iran or venezuela will be detrimental to the american republic and to the american military they're still going to play along because they're bureaucrats and they're interested in meeting their privileges and that's what trump understands the mentality ### 11:23 seg-0018 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0018` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0018](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0018) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=683s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=683s) of the bureaucracy today and do you think they're like what is the benefit though in bringing them together like is there some sort of psychology at work there to have everybody in the same room is there like a group think or social conformity bias or something that they're going for because it seems like if that's what they were doing they could do that in isolation with emails and you know through virtual means yeah that's a yeah that's a question ### 11:53 seg-0019 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0019` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0019](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0019) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=713s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=713s) so uh i'm not sure if you've seen trump's show the apprentice remember how at the end of the show uh like like at the end of every show there's this big meeting big boardroom meeting where all the contestants come into uh the boardroom and everyone's afraid of being fired right and trump's trademark line is you're fired so it's like the hunger games right you got this 40 four -star general they're all invested in maintaining their privileges so whoever's most enthusiastic whoever's most invested in maintaining their privileges they're all fired whoever's most willing to go along to follow trump's orders will be promoted and everyone else will be purged so so so that's the mentality here that's why you want to have this meeting it's a it's a giant game show so as you say um for the public it's a show of unity it's social force but behind the scenes it's a purge it's you ### 12:44 seg-0020 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0020` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0020](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0020) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=764s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=764s) know if you don't um do what trump tells you you'll be ### 12:48 seg-0021 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0021` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0021](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0021) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=768s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=768s) fired right and so why do you think they're so obsessed with iran and a lot of these questions i'm going to be asking you because sometimes i like to just kind of dumb myself down pretend like i don't know anything to really kind of get the perspective of the person i'm interviewing so what do you think is their motivation for iran do you believe that the last uh strike as many experts are claiming was unsuccessful on the fordow facility and they're genuinely concerned about iran being a threshold nuclear state is it strictly about oil is it about regional dominance is it about china and the fact that china is heavily reliant on oil from iran what do you think the main motivation for iran is okay so i think that ### 13:38 seg-0022 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0022` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0022](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0022) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=818s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=818s) there are a dozen reasons why they're doing this but i just had like the three main reasons okay the first main reason is um in response to russia's invasion of ukraine what i mean by that is the american empire power comes from the perception that it is the greatest military in the world that is able to defeat all opponents. After the fall of the Soviet Union, that was very much true. That's why people invested in America. That's why they bought the petrodollar. They had no choice in the matter because if you didn't do this, if you didn't play along, America could come and invade you. But after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, people now have a sense that there's this new power on the block. There's this new kid on the block who's just as powerful. He might be younger, he might be smaller, but he's really, really aggressive. And so the bully, the head, he must demonstrate to everyone that he's still got it. ### 14:39 seg-0023 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0023` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0023](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0023) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=879s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=879s) So going and bombing Iran, bombing to submission, destroying the country, it's a signal to the rest of the world, that I'm still a hegemon. So I think that's the main reason. Another reason is, if you just look at the map of Iran, it is the center of the world in terms of trade. And if you look at all these proposed trade alliances, so for example, China has Golden Road. Russia has something called the North -South Corridor. You look at all these trade routes, it all goes through Iran. So if you're able to control Iran, you're able to control all trade. And historically, that's a source of empire's power, the ability to collect tolls on trade routes. So that's the second reason. The third reason is eschatology. So I might need some time to explain this, but go back to 9 -11. After 9 -11, Wesley Clark, ### 15:36 seg-0024 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0024` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0024](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0024) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=936s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=936s) who was a general, he told Edmund Goodman on stage that he had received secret confidential plans about America's plans after 9 -11. The plan was to go to the Middle East and basically destroy every single country. There were six different countries on the list. They destroyed six. There's one country on the list. There's one last country on the list, and it's Iran. So there's really no explanation why they had to do this, but it seems they've had this plan for the past 20 years of going to the Middle East and just destroying that region and making Israel the dominant power in that region. And there's only one more power left, and that's Iran. So I feel as though they feel that they've invested so much, 20 years, and they're so close to the finish line. And Iran is the last boss in this video game they're playing. Who knows? But they want to finish it. ### 16:26 seg-0025 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0025` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0025](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0025) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=986s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=986s) So then the question is, why are they doing this? And as I say, it's eschatological. It's religious. So there are certain religious factions in America. I'll just name them. These are the Christian Zionists, the evangelical Christians. You have the Mormons. You have extreme mass Jews. You have the Freemasons. So you have these different religious factions that are in control of the national security apparatus in America. They control the CIA. They control the FBI. They control the military. I mean, these are extremely powerful people. And in their vision of eschatology, and they believe that if they're able to work out certain events, if they are able to create a World War III, if they make Jerusalem the capital of the world, then this will bring about the Second Coming, the return of Jesus. Do you think— Do you think— Do you think, though, that these elites, is that just something they leverage? ### 17:21 seg-0026 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0026` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0026](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0026) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1041s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1041s) Like, is that just something that they— Do they genuinely believe that, or do they just pretend to believe that so that they can get the support of their followers? ### 17:32 seg-0027 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0027` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0027](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0027) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1052s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1052s) You know, that is a great question. This is someone I've been wrestling with for many, many years now. And I've been doing a lot of research, and I have to say this, but unfortunately, they really do believe this. And the root of this goes back to the British Empire. You go to the 17th century, this idea of Christian Zionism, what's happening in the Middle East. This was all conceived, developed, scripted by Isaac Newton in the secret society of the Freemasons in the 17th century. And why this is important is, eventually, these Freemasons came over to America, and they built the American empire in order to achieve this eschatological vision. So, so i i understand this sounds crazy and it doesn't make any sense um but if you actually do the research then you recognize that these people are deadly serious and there's really no other explanation except that they really believe what what what they ### 18:35 seg-0028 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0028` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0028](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0028) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1115s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1115s) believe now what do they what do ### 18:36 seg-0029 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0029` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0029](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0029) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1116s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1116s) they think they're going to get out of this second coming like do they think they're going to be adorned with a better seed at the at the eternal table or like what what is the well well so ### 18:48 seg-0030 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0030` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0030](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0030) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1128s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1128s) different religious sects have different beliefs okay so you look at the freemasons they want to create the messaging age because they want to um create a world government they want to create heaven on earth um they want to negate the possibility of heaven they just want to create a world government okay so that's the freemasons and now of course sorry i'm supplying this for the audience audience okay it's much more complicated than that but that's the freemasons and you have the evangelical christians the christian zionists they believe that um the second coming jesus will return and there'll be a rapture so they'll all they'll all be you know um ascended to heaven and then jesus will um convert the jews to uh christianity and this will usher in a thousand years of peace before the last judgment right then you have the jews these religious extremists right then you have the jews these religious extremists ### 19:41 seg-0031 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0031` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0031](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0031) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1181s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1181s) jews they believe that um jesus will not return because they don't believe in jesus but the messiah will come at a time of need and he will enslave the christians and he will make israel uh the dominant power in the world uh all power will be centered in jerusalem so these are the three major sects you have the mormons as well um as so they believe different things okay but they all want the same result which is to destroy the al -aqsa mosque and make jerusalem the world capital of ### 20:11 seg-0032 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0032` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0032](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0032) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1211s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1211s) israel and usher in world war iii so islam is a hind is a hindrance to this plan it's an obstacle ### 20:19 seg-0033 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0033` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0033](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0033) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1219s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1219s) right so um islam would be the antichrist in this scenario right so um there are different enemies that this world government and based in judaism would face islam would be one enemy but also putin and the orthodox church would be another enemy and and these are the two major enemies that that they were confronting at the end of the end of days and so this is the ### 20:42 seg-0034 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0034` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0034](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0034) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1242s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1242s) like the the gog versus magog yeah right right okay and it's a war a war against the end of ### 20:52 seg-0035 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0035` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0035](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0035) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1252s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1252s) christ as well so so so again different traditions will have will conceive god and magog differently um the enterprise differently but they all want the same things which is um the destruction of the al -aqsa mosque a world war uh and the building of a third temple and just so people are clear ### 21:12 seg-0036 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0036` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0036](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0036) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1272s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1272s) on what is happening in the middle school and then the day before where is the total destruction if you are looking at this from the perspective of an academic who like an empiricist who i i don't think are you religious yourself i i'm not religious right so you're kind of looking at this ### 21:23 seg-0037 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0037` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0037](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0037) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1283s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1283s) from the perspective of an outsider to try to understand what's going on yes i'm very much trying to figure out what's going on and the more i look the more sort of confused i become and i'm trying to make sense of what's going on but this is just the broad picture of um of of the religious beliefs ### 21:42 seg-0038 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0038` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0038](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0038) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1302s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1302s) and so we have a big war with iran coming what are the implications going to be because it does seem like when you look at this charlie kirk stuff i'm not sure how much you follow that but culturally and maybe it's just happenstance for the military industrial complex but how convenient is it that all of a sudden there's military in the streets ready to go in the united states to quell all the protests they've basically outlawed uh protesting that they're going to sweep under the the umbrella of leftists so if you're anti -war if you're protesting this war you're going to be you know caught up in that dragnet you got military in the streets in a variety of different forms people are being conditioned to watch people get arrested even if they are illegal immigrants you know you're getting conditioned to to think that's normal right to have you know guys with full automatics ### 22:39 seg-0039 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0039` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0039](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0039) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1359s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1359s) out there arresting people whether for good or bad i'm just saying you know that's what you're being primed to accept and now you have this charlie kirk thing where they're opening all these chapters they're going to use his uh turning points as a recruitment tool and it's got these religious undertones i mean it's really perfect like it's how perfect is that that they're now about to go into this war like it seems a little too coincidental ### 23:08 seg-0040 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0040` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0040](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0040) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1388s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1388s) yeah so again um i think there's a script in place and they're following the script um to the letter and i i completely agree with you about um charlie kirk and how convenient it was uh for their plans um but um there's something about the charlie kirk assassination that's really important uh for your viewers to understand and that there's this occult religious element to the assassination that people don't really appreciate so The number 33 is really important in Freemasonry. It's a defined number. So the highest rank you can achieve in Freemasonry is 33, the 33rd degree. Now, let's look at how this applies to the Charlie Kirk assassination. So the Charlie Kirk assassination happened on September 10th, which is 33 weeks after the inauguration of Donald Trump. The press conference where they announced they captured Tyler Robinson lasted 33 minutes. And they announced that Tyler Robinson was arrested after 33 hours. And they repeated this number 33 hours after the assassination. ### 24:21 seg-0041 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0041` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0041](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0041) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1461s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1461s) Charlie Kirk was going to turn 32, 34 days after September 10th. Now, if you go back and look at the picture of Charlie Kirk, when he was sitting there and talking to people, right beside him on the table were three hats, okay? Three white hats with number 47, okay? Four plus seven is 11. 11 times three is 33. Like, again, go back and look at Charlie Kirk sitting there right before the assassination. There were three white hats right beside him on the table. Now, 47, of course, is Donald Trump's, you know, he's the 47th president of the United States. But that's not a coincidence, right? Four plus seven is 11. Three hats, that's 33. So, in my opinion, if you just look at religious history, this would be classified as a ritual sacrifice. So, and the point of a ritual sacrifice, of course, is to energize and galvanize the followers for the tribulations ahead, which is, you know, the wars that are coming. ### 25:32 seg-0043 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0043` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0043](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0043) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1532s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1532s) Yeah, it is an interesting number, isn't it? I mean, it seems to, you know, know, there's that old thing. It's like a kind of confirmation bias. They say sometimes where people will say, well, I see the same time on the clock all the time. But when you think about how many times you look at the clock and don't see it, but with 33, it's an exceptionally unusual number. I mean, it's just present in so many places, whether it's the NATO that there's now 32 members of NATO and the 33rd presumably would probably be Ukraine or maybe Moldova. But how coincidental is that? They've timed it so that you're right on the fringes of a major global calamity or even like the 33 Liberty Street where they hold all the gold. So yeah, there's definitely something to that numerology. I don't know if it's, it might be a little bit of a stretch, but like you say, maybe it's an inside joke to them. ### 26:28 seg-0044 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0044` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0044](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0044) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1588s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1588s) Maybe it's if you're that well off and you can do anything and anyone and you can go. Anywhere and buy anything, you'd probably get a little bored and you'd want to, you know, spice it up a little bit, right? So maybe there is an element of that where they, it's almost like a, it's like a sadist tendency to, to want to kind of play with your food, I guess. ### 26:49 seg-0045 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0045` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0045](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0045) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1609s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1609s) Yeah. So, um, I think that we are at that level, we have that much power and wealth. Um, I think you tend to be very superstitious and you're going to do as much as you can to ensure that whatever plan you have, have works out properly. So I think that there are some astrological elements to, to their, um, their plans. So, um, I, I mean, I, I, I, I think they're superstitious and I think they're very much concerned about alignment stars in a way that allows them to achieve their, um, their plans. Another thing I will point out is how obvious all this is, right? So, I mean, it is a regular person. You watch the news, you're like, wait a minute here. The FBI story does not make any sense. And these text messages between Tyler Robertson and his roommate, it's insulting my intelligence. That guy, the guy's a zoomer. I mean, he's a, and he was texting. ### 27:47 seg-0046 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0046` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0046](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0046) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1667s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1667s) They don't write like that. Okay. So there's like tons and tons of evidence that demonstrate that the FBI story, the official story is false. But what you need to understand is that's part of the plan. It's something that they call revelation of truth. Method. So the idea here is that they still are very superstitious and they think that what they're doing is divine, but at the same time, they're very legalistic in that they, they want to maintain as strategies they want to be. They want people to like, at the end of the day to stand before Jesus and God and argue their case. And if people were like, you know, like, like, like they destroyed the world and we got here because of their sadistic, apathic tendencies, then Jesus is going to punish them, right? But then they turn to Jesus and say, no, no, no. The people were complicit in ### 28:40 seg-0047 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0047` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0047](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0047) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1720s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1720s) all this because the evidence that we planned this was so preponderous, so abundant that they had to fool themselves into believing otherwise. Because you look at 9 -11, you look at JFK, the evidence, there's a preponderance of evidence. If you just look at it just objectively and just look at the evidence slightly, you'll know that it was all planned. So they're maintaining that loophole. It's almost like a fine print in a contract. So the evidence is presented to you in such a way that you know that this is all planned and you just say, well, I didn't know. Then you are complicit in the act. ### 29:21 seg-0048 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0048` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0048](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0048) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1761s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1761s) It's like that old superstition of, you know, you have to invite the devil in. Well, this conversation has definitely veered off where I thought it would, but it's interesting stuff nonetheless. Because it's interesting stuff, but it's interesting stuff nonetheless. Because I think, you know, this is the big question, right? It's like, why are they doing this when they have so much power and control? And I think looking at it strictly from a game theory point of view, they probably think it's a zero -sum game and that if they don't take it, that power vacuum will be absorbed by somebody else. And I agree with you that, you know, Iran is really the last on the list. I mean, they've been emboldened by Syria, by... It looks like Lebanon is pretty much pacified. Hamas is on its final running on fumes. And this is really the end. So I guess the question is, how do you think China and Russia are going to react to this? ### 30:18 seg-0049 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0049` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0049](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0049) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1818s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1818s) Are they going to assist Iran in a way which will allow them to endure this upcoming onslaught? Or is the country going to be destroyed? ### 30:31 seg-0050 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0050` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0050](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0050) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1831s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1831s) So, you know... You know, in mid -August, Putin met with Trump in Alaska. And it seemed as though there was no progress in the Ukraine war. You know, like, so after the meeting, you have these, you know, deployment against Venezuela. You have Trump allowing for more weapon shipments to Ukraine. So it seemed as though that meeting was for naught. It was just a pointless meeting. But I mean, like... You switch perspective and say, okay, what if it wasn't about Ukraine, but what if it was about Iran, right? Let's just say, hypothetically, we don't know, okay? But the agreement was actually for that. The agreement was that Trump could invade Iran and Putin would not interfere. Now, why would Putin agree to that deal? Because Iran is almost impossible for America to invade. You know, we're so used to 2003, the Iraq war, when, you know, shock and awe. America just went in and just blew everything up. ### 31:34 seg-0051 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0051` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0051](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0051) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1894s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1894s) And then, you know, then, like, you know, a week, the war is over. The problem is that Iran is all mountainous. And it's, you know, a huge country, maybe three times the size of Iraq. So the problem is that America does not have the capacity to go invade Iran and occupy it properly. And I think that the American military will implode. The world will collapse in Iran, not because Iran will defeat America militarily, but mainly because America doesn't have the logistic capacity to fight a war of the scale that is required in Iraq and put it in noses. So it's almost like a trap for the United States. If you go into Iran, it's a bait, right? It's a bait. And so I think, like, yes, America is going to go to Iran, but it's going to lose this war. And this will allow Putin to secure Iran. It will allow Putin to consolidate his grip over Ukraine and Europe. ### 32:38 seg-0053 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0053` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0053](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0053) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1958s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=1958s) So what do you think Iran's response is going to be this time? Because it seems as though they were definitely reining it in, in terms of their response last time. They were not using their full potential because they knew that they didn't have escalation dominance, probably. How far will they go in terms of... Exacting punishment on Israel, knowing that ultimately, I mean, they're in a very tough spot because if they start to get the upper hand, then it's Samson option, right? So do you think there's going to be a race for nukes? Is anybody going to provide a nuclear umbrella for Iran? Or is there going to be, like, what about China's role? ### 33:25 seg-0054 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0054` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0054](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0054) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2005s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2005s) Right. Okay. So if you look at it from a game theory perspective, Iran cannot possibly defeat... Israel and the United States in the conventional warfare. And as you point out, if this escalates too far, then Israel always has a central option. The United States can always choose to nuke Iran. And also remember that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan has assigned a mutual defense pact and Pakistan has nuclear weapons. So if Saudi Arabia is drawn into this war, then Iran is out of trouble. So from a game theory perspective. Iran does not want to fight a conventional war with the United States and Israel. The only way for Iran to defeat the United States is to draw the United States into Iran and set the trap. And so the best option for them is to close the Strait of Hormuz, right? Because if you close off the Strait of Hormuz, it's almost like a choke point on the global economy. ### 34:24 seg-0055 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0055` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0055](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0055) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2064s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2064s) You look at Southeast Asia, Japan, South Korea, China, they all depend on that oil from the Middle East to fuel their economies. And so... So there will be tremendous pressure on the United States to send in ground troops to relieve the choke point. So I think that's what's going to happen. I think maybe in the second round, there will be more escalation. But the big question is, will Iran close off the Strait of Hormuz? And if they do, then America will be forced to send in ground troops. And slowly this will escalate into a full -scale ground invasion of Iran. I don't know the actual timeline. But I think that that's the gist of what will happen. And this may take another year, this may be six months, who knows, okay? But it's going to be a very prolonged process. Because remember, both sides are trying to maintain as much strategic flexibility as possible. ### 35:16 seg-0056 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0056` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0056](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0056) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2116s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2116s) And both sides are trying to win the information war. They're trying to win the war of public opinion. So no one wants to blame for like, you know, destroying the world, basically. When it comes to China, theoretically, China is going to win. China is very dependent on Iranian oil. And theoretically, China will defend Iran if it's attacked. And that's why Trump's next move is very important. I predict in the next three months, Trump will visit China and there will be a major rapprochement between the United States and China. And there'll be lots of concessions that Trump will make that make China look very good. For example, Trump may say that, I promise to not allow Taiwanese independence. And this will be a major, major concession to China, right? That's the thing that China really, really wants. A guarantee from the Americans that they will not support Taiwan independence. And maybe there'll be relaxation of tariffs, okay? ### 36:15 seg-0057 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0057` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0057](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0057) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2175s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2175s) But I think in the next three months, there'll be a major rapprochement between China and the United States. And publicly, it will seem as though Trump has won. Because what matters is, of course, behind the scenes. I think that China will allow the Americans to do what they want to do in Iran. So I think that's what will happen in the next three months. ### 36:44 seg-0058 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0058` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0058](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0058) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2204s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2204s) Really? Well, that's a bold prediction. I mean, if you get that one right, I think you're going to be immortalized here on YouTube because that's a very bold prediction. It seems to be contrary to a lot of what we're seeing. But I mean, on the other hand, they tariff. India, but they didn't tariff China as a consequence. So it makes you wonder, you know, they're leaving that door open, presumably, despite all the tough talk earlier than the year about the big tariffs, which did escalate. And of course, it retraced. But nonetheless, I still think they stated earlier in the year that China and the Pacific was their central focus, but then they kind of walked it back and now they're saying, well, it's actually the homeland and it's the, you know, the Western Hemisphere. So these guys are kind of all over the map. It's really difficult. I can't for the life of me see ### 37:41 seg-0059 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0059` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0059](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0059) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2261s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2261s) how they could imagine defending Taiwan or that that's going to be a good idea or a war that's remotely winnable. I mean, it makes no sense, but they are starting to move the semiconductor factories back to the United States, a process which will take many years. So perhaps there. You know, they got it in their head. So you think that China will basically relinquish any responsibility in CENTCOM with Iran for the promise of this rapprochement between the United States and them? ### 38:17 seg-0060 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0060` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0060](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0060) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2297s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2297s) Yeah. So I'll make certain points. So you just compare the first Trump term and the second Trump term. They're very concrete steps against China. Right. So you had terrorists. But you also had. The kicking out of Chinese journalists in America and China reciprocated by kicking out American journalists. The Washington Journal, New York Times are all kicked out of China. You had the closing of the American consulate in Chengdu. There were actually very concrete steps taken on both sides that signal confrontation. And this time around, you don't have that. Trump doesn't seem to be that concerned about China. So yeah, there were some terms slapped on. China, but there were but it was consistent with other tariffs. And as you say, the tariffs on China were not as harsh as those slapped on on India. So I think there's lots of space for negotiation. Also, there's a rumor that there's a new national defense priorities plan ### 39:20 seg-0061 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0061` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0061](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0061) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2360s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2360s) being being drafted right in the Pentagon that calls for the removal of American forces in Southeast Asia to focus on homeland on the homeland. Basically, to avoid the possibility of an accidental confrontation between America and China in the in the South China Sea. So I think there's lots of signs now that the relationship it's warming up and the state is being set for a little pushback. And that is my big prediction that I'm making. Yes. ### 39:53 seg-0062 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0062` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0062](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0062) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2393s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2393s) Well, it's interesting in light of the big military parade where China was clearly sort of posturing. I mean, you had the leader of all they pretty much had the whole gang there. You know, he had Lukashenko, Putin, Kim Jong Un. I mean, you had everybody there, right? So I'm not so sure. I'm not entirely convinced that that's going to happen. But anything is possible. They're definitely, you know, they've definitely softened the the actions that they're taking against China compared to what they they were saying earlier in the year, and it was pretty strict at one point, right, like 160 % tariffs at one point. That was pretty severe, you know, still enabling Taiwan with various weapon systems, although at a seemingly slower pace. There's still a lot of military activity in and around that region. It's difficult to say, but it's interesting. So you think that the Russians basically are the ones who have a vested interest in getting the United States ensnared in this quagmire situation? ### 40:55 seg-0063 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0063` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0063](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0063) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2455s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2455s) I know there have been reports that they've recently been sacked. They've been sacked. So that's a whole different thing for China to say that they're not sending more equipment there. I don't know to what extent. So do you think that China will completely kind of extricate itself from that? Or will it try to maybe assist? Do they not have an interest in kind of keeping the Americans occupied there as well? ### 41:20 seg-0064 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0064` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0064](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0064) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2480s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2480s) So so a really important point that I need to emphasize is that right now China does not have a blue water Navy. If it were to develop a blue water Navy, would it be a blue water Navy? Navy, it would bring it into direct confrontation with the United States. It would make sense for China to have a blue water Navy because it has all these ports scattered around the world. There's like 31 ports in South America. So China is heavily invested in global trade, at the same time it doesn't have a blue water Navy. So when Chinese ships go overseas to deliver all these goods, it's the American Navy that's protecting these Chinese ships. So there's almost a symbiotic relationship between America and China. And so that's why I don't think China will seek confrontation with America. What China wants to do is sort of like be the big brother in all this confrontation. China wants to be the peacemaker. ### 42:10 seg-0065 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0065` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0065](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0065) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2530s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2530s) So even though Russia and the United States are fighting in Ukraine, Russia will definitely help Iran when America invades, China wants to still be the objective, neutral peacemaker to allow these different parties to come to the table and try and negotiate. So I think in the next five years, you'll see that China will play a more vocal role at the United Nations. The diplomats will come out and try to strike a conciliatory tone between the United States and Russia because it doesn't benefit China in any way for the world to descend into chaos. China got rich through globalization, through global trade. If a war breaks out anywhere, then the Chinese economy is severely affected. ### 42:55 seg-0066 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0066` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0066](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0066) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2575s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2575s) So that gap though is narrowing. Right? Like the lack of blue water navy. I mean, China is expanding their navy at a rapid rate. What is it that constitutes having a blue water navy? Because they have several aircraft carriers. They have, they're building what, like 300 warships a year or something to that effect. When do they cross that Rubicon of being, of constituting a blue water navy? ### 43:23 seg-0067 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0067` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0067](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0067) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2603s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2603s) Right. So if you look at a map, okay. China is now encompassed by it. Right. So the first island chains are controlled by the United States. Okay. So it's something called the first island chain that basically restricts Chinese movement. Okay. And this first island chain is essentially Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines. But then there are two other chains as well. What is important is that if you're a blue water navy, you need ports in order to refuel, in order to, just for logistical purposes. Right? Yeah. So unless you have these. Unless you break out of these island chains and you really don't have blue water navy, you have, you have, you know, you might have a lot of ships, but it's really easy to sink aircraft carriers with ballistic missiles nowadays. So that's what I mean. I mean, if, if China has a strategy to break out of these island chains and establish your own port networks for the military, then we can see that like China has these global ambitions. ### 44:25 seg-0068 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0068` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0068](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0068) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2665s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2665s) Right. So if right now, all they're doing is willing these ports to facilitate global trade and they don't have the military support, then they're, they're now heavily reliant on the US Navy for protection against pirates and, you know, so yeah. ### 44:40 seg-0069 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0069` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0069](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0069) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2680s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2680s) So do you believe that they'll continue to be a formidable force moving forward and will the interests, I guess, with the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians, won't that at some point come into conflict with this arrangement with China? In the United States, or do you really think that, will that relationship being bridged that you foresee with the rapprochement with the United States and Beijing, will it in some way mitigate the war with Russia or will it not have any effect on that? ### 45:16 seg-0070 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0070` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0070](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0070) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2716s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2716s) Right. So what's happening around the world, the much larger geostrategic picture is something called the Heartland versus Rimland. You know, the Heartland. So the idea of the Heartland is the Eurasian continent and the idea of Rimland are, you know, global trade facilitate through the sea. Now Britain and America are both naval powers and the way that they maintain control of the world is by forcing trade on the seas. And you do that by making the Eurasian continent a complete mess, basically having these countries fight each other. So no one power emerges. Nope. So Britain and America are initially an intergovernmental organization that's taking over a large part of the world and that's the part that we're trying to re -balance. We're trying to get a state -of -the -art international trade formation that is rotating around Europe and South Africa. So that's what they want to do, right? And that's a fundamental thing that they want to do, right? ### 46:17 seg-0071 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0071` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0071](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0071) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2777s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2777s) And I think that's what they've been doing for many years. That's what they're working on. So this is the point, and this is so important. It's the time to change the world, right? Yeah. The point is that we have to have a chance to see the world change. We have to see the world change. maybe it's not redundant all the trade is now done through um railways yeah okay yeah so the ### 46:34 seg-0072 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0072` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0072](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0072) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2794s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2794s) goal is to kind of just create that infighting so the eastern countries must be aware of this this dichotomy that you're talking about and so they it's in their interest then to work together ### 46:48 seg-0073 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0073` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0073](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0073) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2808s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2808s) wouldn't it be well you know germany and the soviet union uh 1930s was also aware of of the intentions of the anglo -american empire and they still went to war with each other so um it's a very complicated dynamic um i mean hopefully i mean the grand hope is that um russia china iran they get together and they create this trade pact um and this will allow for peace and prosperity in eurasia but you know the british and americans are very good at creating conflict in fact you can make the argument that for the past 20 years all these global conflicts were created by the british in order to maintain their uh trade hegemony around the world yeah and it seems ### 47:34 seg-0074 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0074` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0074](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0074) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2854s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2854s) like the only real hedge against that is to have these unitary governments like these strongman figures be it the ayatollah or putin or xi somebody who can kind of stand up and say hey we're going to do this we're going to do this we're going to do this stick around and view things long term so not to succumb to the infighting in that that civil discourse which is exploited by the west as you say to typically divide and conquer right ### 48:01 seg-0075 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0075` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0075](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0075) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2881s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2881s) well you know it's really right now it's really essential crisis for the anglo -american empire if putin succeeds in controlling ukraine because in consolidating ukraine if iran um is allowed to trade with china and russia the anglo -american empire collapses because um it's ### 48:18 seg-0076 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0076` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0076](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0076) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2898s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2898s) a policy scheme right this is this is why it's existential I think you just you just said it right there like you know I've often struggled to articulate this point to people that you know it's about the U.S dollar and and things like that but I think how you just explained it there was so perfect because it really puts in perspective that if the U.S allows those relationships to thrive and mature then effectively it's not only a multi -polar world it's that nobody wants the dollar anymore maybe and it quickly will potentially overtake it's a through cities trap I suppose well I mean the issue right ### 49:02 seg-0077 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0077` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0077](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0077) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2942s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2942s) now is that America is a positive scheme it has 37 trillion dollars in debt uh and if people stop by U.S Treasuries the positive scheme collapses aren't to itself right so it doesn't have a choice in the matter um it's either you know your entire economy collapses or you fight these wars and so they don't fight these ### 49:24 seg-0078 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0078` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0078](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0078) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2964s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2964s) wars yeah and uh I recently read a statistic that said that the the amount of foreigners investing in the U.S stock market is at all -time highs right now so it's not just the adoption of the dollar it's actually the adoption of like the U.S you know trading platform as well yeah ### 49:44 seg-0079 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0079` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0079](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0079) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2984s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=2984s) so the entire source of American wealth is perception that it is an empire you have absolutely no choice but to invest in the Empire you want to keep your money save but if um if but if Russia controls Ukraine if it if it completely defeats NATO in Ukraine and Russia has to control over one -third of the world's carbohydrates they're not perception's going to ### 50:04 seg-0080 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0080` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0080](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0080) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3004s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3004s) change yeah and really at this point I think the only thing that could because America has some really good sort of geographic strengths that have insulated it and I think it makes people think that you know my money safe there because there's two oceans. It's a relatively stable democracy, although that is a little uncertain at this point in time. So people can feel confident knowing that their money is going to be safe in the vault in the United States. But there's ways that that can be undermined as well. And I think there's forces that are working to try to, you know, basically destroy the U.S. from the inside out. I mean, why wouldn't you, right? Like, why wouldn't you want to stoke those divisions in order to create an unstable situation whereby a civil unrest ensues? And what are your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, you're actually right in that America looks like a good investment from the outside in that it is a carnival fortress. ### 51:11 seg-0081 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0081` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0081](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0081) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3071s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3071s) It is invincible. But the way that America is, um, abusing its exorbitant privilege, uh, the, yeah, the corruption in the country. I mean, there's a very strong likelihood that America will default on its debt at some point. Um, so, um, you also want to hedge against that as well. And that's why we're seeing this massive movement towards gold around the world. Like, you know, in China, before people bought U.S. dollars, now they're buying gold. And so what America has to do is show the world that it is still the hegemon. No one can possibly challenge it. And if you dare defy the hegemon, the hegemon will come and basically the crap out of you. I mean, honestly, right now, like the way I see things, America is descending into a mafia state. And it's not, and I don't think that that's an exaggeration. ### 52:03 seg-0083 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0083` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0083](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0083) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3123s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3123s) I agree. And, and is the culture there in China, like I see a lot of videos, people buying gold, is it really popular there against the re amidst the retail class? The people are purchasing gold in large amounts. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, or is it more of a central bank? ### 52:18 seg-0084 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0084` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0084](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0084) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3138s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3138s) Yeah, I mean, I mean, before again, Chinese would like to store their wealth in America. They wanted to immigrate, send their kids to America for college and buy U.S. dollars. But given the geopolitical situation, and given the uncertainty that the Trump government has brought to America, you know, it's very possible, next, you know, year or two, America descends into civil conflict. Chinese are now more reluctant to buy U.S. dollars. and they're shifting towards gold. And it's a very, very clear trend right now in China. ### 52:53 seg-0085 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0085` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0085](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0085) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3173s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3173s) So you've said before that you thought that one of the ways that they will take attention away from domestic issues, be it like a financial crisis or something like that, was to create an outside enemy. You kind of need an enemy at the gates and that can take attention away from all your domestic woes. So do you suspect that that part of this rallying cry for war is because they know, you know, the market's in a bubble, they're going to default on their debt, you know, it's going to be chaos in the streets, and this is a great way to channel that anger outwards and control it and point it in a direction which they'll be able to exploit for along multiple economic and geopolitical lines? ### 53:44 seg-0086 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0086` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0086](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0086) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3224s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3224s) Yeah, so I think... the elite is extremely unimaginative. They have a certain playbook on how to maintain power and certainly divert and deflect is one of the major strategies. So starting wars overseas is one strategy, but also like they're thinking about like civil wars, like, you know, instigating a civil war in the United States. I mean, there's also talk about alien invasion, of like staging an alien invasion. So, you know, I mean, I think they're looking at different options right now. And it's really like, you know, what option actually works because right now people are skeptical, right? And nowadays you have the Internet, you have channels like what you're doing and people are not aware, like there's a very strong possibility in the next few weeks there's going to be a false flag operation in America and we should be aware of it. There's going to be a false flag operation in Europe. And people aren't buying this anymore. ### 54:35 seg-0087 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0087` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0087](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0087) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3275s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3275s) So the elite are getting more and more desperate. But, you know, like the elite, as they get more and more desperate, they'll just become more and more stupid. So even though people are aware of what's happening, it's going to stop them from doing what they're going to do. ### 54:50 seg-0088 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0088` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0088](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0088) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3290s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3290s) Yeah, it seems like, you know, unfortunately, people are quite credulous. It never seems to amaze me what and how simple it is to control and manipulate people on a massive scale. So I'm not very optimistic about resistance actually fomenting into something significant. Usually that's exploited as well. And I think. They're they're smart enough that they know they know who's like the the influence in society, which is why in American society they quickly got wise and Trump got wise to the fact that there's all these like social media influencers who are basically your inroad to the minds of the masses. And so that changed in the 2010s. You know, what used to be like mainstream media talking heads and it shifted into these social media influencers. So. They've really conscript them to to kind of promote the messages. So, yeah, it's interesting to see that dynamic develop. So in terms of Russia and Europe, then, what do you think the likelihood is of that going nuclear? ### 56:05 seg-0089 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0089` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0089](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0089) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3365s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3365s) Because, you know, I've always known that the war wasn't going to end when Trump was elected. Now, it's actually surprising even me to see him talking. About the deployment of Tomahawk missiles and, you know, these things which would provoke a major response from Russia that would have to be outside what is at least conventional by current standards. So what do you think the the potential of that is? And I know you think it's going to flare up in and around Odessa. Where do you think Russia's red line is? ### 56:43 seg-0090 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0090` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0090](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0090) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3403s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3403s) I think there's a zero possibility. That a war will go nuclear in this age. I think there's just too many restraints. It's like the ultimate taboo, right? I mean, no leader in the world wants to be responsible for the destruction of humanity. Also, even though these countries are at war, there are tons of back channels. And so they're communicating with each other all the time. So so even though Ukraine and Russia are at war, you know, there are thousands of people that are, you know, interlopers and they're trying to control the parameters. But the war never escalates into a nuclear confrontation. At the same time, I do feel as though what's happening in Ukraine may be a replay of World War One. You know, a war that lasted for four or five years and saw really the killing of millions and millions of young people and a war from which Europe really never recovered. So I was I do believe that this war will continue to escalate. ### 57:49 seg-0091 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0091` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0091](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0091) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3469s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3469s) But I think they won't break that taboo. I don't think this war will ever go nuclear. ### 57:57 seg-0092 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0092` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0092](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0092) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3477s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3477s) So you believe that there are certain interlocutors on the back channel that are preventing this from or setting the parameters for what's acceptable and whatnot. It just seems kind of crazy to me to think that here you are trying to. Economically destroy Russia, which would lead to presumably the leader there being dethroned and taken out of power and possibly lead to the collapse of the society and that they wouldn't that they would allow that to happen. You know, like it's it doesn't make any sense that there'd be these rules to the game that that kind of supersede, you know, what we see. I'm not. As optimistic that this thing couldn't get out of hand because if the stated intention, I mean, unless the West is willing to make some concessions and say, OK, but they've already blew up Nord Stream, I mean, they've already kind of nuked their relationship with Russia for probably a long time. ### 59:05 seg-0093 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0093` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0093](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0093) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3545s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3545s) I presume anything's possible, mind you. But usually those types of divides are only bridged if one side wins. So like how we seen after, you know, after a nuke was dropped, on Japan, the United States and and Japan became, you know, the best of friends after that within a relatively short period of time. But that only happened because one side won. You know, as long as you have this festering enmity between the two sides, which is economically based, it doesn't seem like a situation that is going to be left to to to chance or that there has to be either a defeat like a. Definitive defeat, or maybe that's going to be a collapse from the inside. I don't know. What do you think about that? ### 59:54 seg-0094 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0094` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0094](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0094) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3594s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3594s) Right. So I'm going to try to get into Putin's head, OK? So I'm Putin. And how do I see what's going on? Well, first of all, I think I'm winning the war. Why? Because first of all, my troops on the front lines, they're extremely dedicated. They you know, they're very creative. If you just look at what's happening on the front lines, these Russian troops are developing new tactics all the time to counter NATO advanced weaponry. OK, so one example is they use these motorbikes and they also use thermal cloaks. So the frontline troops are they have really high morale. They're very creative, they're energetic, and they really believe in their mission. OK, so so I really believe in my frontline troops. Also, if I'm trying to win this war, I don't have to win this war conventionally. I don't have to win this war on the battlefield. Why? Because I know. For a fact that ### 1:00:48 seg-0095 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0095` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0095](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0095) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3648s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3648s) these regimes, these governments in Europe, Britain, Germany, France are extremely fragile and the people in Europe are don't want this war. They don't understand why there's this war going on. You go back to 2014, Europeans had access to cheap Russian gas. They had good lives. German industry was booming. People's economy was was doing very well. Now you fast forward to today, the German economy has collapsed. People are freezing in the winter and it's not their war. They don't understand why NATO is fighting Russia and Ukraine. What's the point of all this? Why can't we just trade peacefully? And also, like, why did the Americans have to blow up North Street? So so the people don't support this war. So and the elite, the European elite, they're beholding to their American masters. So this war keeps on dragging on. And if people are required to make sacrifices in order to continue to support this war, then people in Europe, are eventually going to rebel. ### 1:01:49 seg-0096 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0096` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0096](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0096) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3709s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3709s) You know, you see these massive protests in France, in Britain. I mean, it's very hard for the governments there to control this sort of popular discontent. And so if I'm Putin, I'm like, I don't have to win this war. All I have to do is drag this war out and eventually these regimes will collapse. ### 1:02:07 seg-0097 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0097` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0097](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0097) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3727s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3727s) The difference between Russia and Europe is Russia has a lot of stuff. You know, Europe doesn't really have much stuff left, right? They're built on imperialism and all that. So in since the post -colonial age, they've been dependent on like the service based economy and now it's kind of running its course. So they need Russian stuff. So will they accept defeat is the question. And I think you said it yourself, that you thought that they would use the threat of war to try to, you know, bring people under control and quell that civil civil discourse. I suppose that the question is, well, what will they do in order? To manufacture that consent? Could it be a false flag? Could it be, you know, that they really need to vilify the Russians? I read a poll recently that showed that Polish support for the war. Now, this could be a biased survey, but it went up from 24 percent to 43 percent. ### 1:03:08 seg-0098 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0098` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0098](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0098) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3788s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3788s) But do you think it would be that hard to to manufacture that consent for another conflict if the conditions were right? I mean, Russia is playing it very safe right now is looking at the UAV map of the big attack they did just two days ago. And you'll notice that they're steering clear of the Polish border like it's all going to Kiev. They're not even targeting Lviv anymore. ### 1:03:34 seg-0099 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0099` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0099](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0099) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3814s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3814s) Yeah. So I think throughout this war, the Russians have been extremely strategic. They've been they've shown tremendous restraint. So they're targeting, you know, critical military infrastructure and they're trying to avoid targeting civilian infrastructure. And as you say, they're trying to avoid direct confrontation with NATO, even though they know that NATO is already in Ukraine, supporting the Ukrainians. And I think you're absolutely right in that the European elite, they will not give up this war. They're good. It's like some cost fallacy, like it's in a casino and you've lost a million dollars. We're not going to leave the casino until you win it back. And so it's not just about getting the resources that Russia has. There's also about like, you know, some cost fallacy. They've done themselves. There's also a hole and they can't get themselves out of the hole. And I think you're absolutely right in that the population is much more compliant than we can imagine. ### 1:04:27 seg-0100 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0100` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0100](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0100) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3867s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3867s) And maybe at first because of false flag operations, because of social media, because of propaganda, the people are invested in this war, especially in places like Poland, which would be directly threatened if Russia wins this war in Ukraine and the Baltic states. And the Poland, the Baltic states would be heavily invested in fighting Russia and Ukraine because they're afraid that eventually Putin will come for them. And I think Putin will eventually come for them. But again, war requires sacrifice. It requires people to give up their lives. It requires people to suffer. And I don't think Western Europeans, the French, the Germans, the British are willing to make the sacrifice necessary in order to win the war. And that's what Putin is betting on. Yes, send in your NATO troops, call up a draft, you know, have all this naturally jingling in your countries. But are your people willing to make the sacrifices ### 1:05:25 seg-0101 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0101` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0101](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0101) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3925s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3925s) necessary to win this war the way that the Russian people are willing to make the sacrifices? And the answer is absolutely not. I mean, I mean, like, are these young people in Britain, in France, in Germany, are they willing to go off and die in a foreign land that they've never been to and which they don't really care about? I don't think we are. ### 1:05:46 seg-0102 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0102` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0102](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0102) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3946s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3946s) Yeah, it seems like unless there's some sea change in terms of you almost need a bit of nationalism as well. And a lot of the European countries are getting away from that or at least some are, you know, you're seeing a resurgence. And this is perhaps where it could actually turn over is where you have this anti -immigrant sentiment and weaponized. And then that becomes the kind of like what's happening in the U.S. That sort of patriotic. Invocation can can morph into what they're looking for there with that, you know, crusade like mentality. ### 1:06:25 seg-0103 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0103` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0103](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0103) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3985s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=3985s) So I think for the past 50 years, the Europeans have been very effective at the looting nationalism. These remember, in their opinion, it was nationalism that caused the tragedies of the 20th century, World War One and World War Two. So you need open borders, you need anti -racism, you need multiculturalism in order to prevent a major calamity from emerging again. And so Europeans are almost brainwashed to think that nationalism is an evil. So I don't know how and I think that Europeans now are really angry about immigration, mass immigration, and they should be. OK, I'll be honest with you. ### 1:06:59 seg-0104 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0104` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0104](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0104) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4019s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4019s) But this is how World War Two started, right? Because there was that mentality. And then, you know, Hitler came in with all of the nationalist sort of sentiments and catered to people's desire to, you know, feel special. ### 1:07:14 seg-0105 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0105` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0105](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0105) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4034s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4034s) And the Europeans don't care. And if the Europeans had a charismatic leader, then, yeah, maybe people would rally around the flag. But the Europeans don't have a charismatic leader, right? You look at Starmer, you look at Merge, you look at Macron. These are heated figures who've been in their own countries. You look at the popular ratings. ### 1:07:31 seg-0106 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0106` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0106](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0106) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4051s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4051s) Well, they're almost creating the conditions, though, for somebody like that to emerge. And who knows who it's going to be? In every country, there's, you know, somebody, some resistance element. Yeah. I think that maybe that's how this. That's how this emerges. And this is why at the time being, you know, Putin is probably all for that civil unrest. But he must if he's a chess player, he must say, see this, how it will unfold in the coming years when, OK, there's that there's this nationalist resurgence. And then that is harnessed at some point because that will be what is required, just like it's happening in the United States. You need that to go. You need that to go to war. And now with the turning points thing and the Trump and, you know, you have that almost. ### 1:08:21 seg-0107 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0107` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0107](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0107) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4101s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4101s) Right. So what Putin will say to Europeans is this, OK, very simple message. Am I your enemy or are the Americans your enemy? It's the Americans who are forcing you to pay these tariffs. It's these Americans that blow up your North Stream. It's these Americans that are forcing you to fight this war in Ukraine. Right. Who's the enemy here? If you really believe in nationalism, would you would you not want national sovereignty? Would you not want to be able to decide your own views? Do you really want the CIA meddling in your elections? Do you want these American puppets running your government? That's a message that Putin would make to the European people. And I think this is much stronger message than, oh, let's fight the Russians because the Russians are evil. ### 1:09:02 seg-0108 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0108` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0108](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0108) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4142s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4142s) Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely possible. OK, I wanted to ask you, I know you spent some time in Canada and I'm wondering what's your what's your perception is of. Canadian politics, Canadian society. It seems as though we're drifting into more of a authoritarian state. And how do you think it compares to China? Like because I think there's a lot of misconceptions around freedom and liberty as it's experienced in China. Are China and Canada comparable or are we even more stringent than they are there? ### 1:09:41 seg-0109 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0109` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0109](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0109) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4181s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4181s) Yeah. So I would love to have a conversation with you about this. Because I have my own personal experiences. And I want to ask you if my experiences are actually typical. So I was born in China, but I grew up in Canada in the 80s and 90s. It was the best time to be a young person in Canada because it was free. The economy was doing well. You were allowed to just play until 9 p.m. by yourself every night. And it was a wonderful time. And it was a wonderful childhood. So I'm in China. I've been in China for the past 30 years working as an educator. I have three young children. And China is an urban jungle. And the air isn't that clean. And I want my kids to experience freedom like the way I experienced freedom in Canada in the 80s and 90s. I want them to have access to a fresh air, which is to me very important. ### 1:10:36 seg-0110 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0110` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0110](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0110) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4236s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4236s) So this summer, I took my two boys back to Toronto. That's where my parents are. We were there for two months. And every day, we went to the park. We went to the cottage. I tried to give them an authentic Canadian experience. And I was appalled by the social conformity in Canada nowadays. Nowadays, your kid has to be on a leash. You're not allowed to let your kid wander and explore. And so one story is that we were in a park in Toronto. And my young boy, who's four years old, he went exploring by himself. And he was surrounded by a stranger. And this is a park. And he was away. I couldn't see him. But he's a very independent young... He's a very independent boy. So he just wanders. But he knows what the boundaries are. But that day, we got lucky. And he was a stranger who asked him, Where's your dad? ### 1:11:35 seg-0111 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0111` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0111](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0111) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4295s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4295s) Now, my boy doesn't speak English. So the stranger took him to the local staff. Like the wedding pool staff. And they surrounded him. And he's four years old. And now he's being surrounded by this stranger. So in his heart, he thinks, Am I getting kidnapped? So he faints. And now I'm looking for him. I can't find him. Because they've taken him inside. And they call the police. They call the paramedics. And eventually, they find him. And I asked the paramedics, What happened? He says, Your boy has fainted. But he's okay. We checked his vital signs. He's fine. Now, the police are not questioning me. And I explained to him that I want to encourage independence. So I let them explore. But we've been here for two months. And no incident like this has happened before. It's just a misunderstanding. And then they tried to get me to take him to the hospital. ### 1:12:27 seg-0112 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0112` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0112](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0112) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4347s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4347s) And I became very confused. It's like, I know what happened to my boy. And the paramedics say he's fine. I don't want to take him to the hospital. Because I want to take him home and let him sleep. I want him to be safe. If I take him to the hospital, I don't know what's going to happen to him. We could be there for 12 hours. Who knows what could happen? And you don't know what the doctor will say. Maybe the doctor is inexperienced. They do some checks. And then he just has a wrong diagnosis. Who knows? But I don't want to take the chance of exposing my child to risk that we can't imagine. The police were insistent. And I said to the police, Listen, is it my choice as his father whether or not to take him to the hospital? And they said, Of course, it's your choice. It's your choice. ### 1:13:11 seg-0113 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0113` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0113](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0113) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4391s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4391s) Of course. And I said, Fine. And I choose to take my boy home so he can rest. And the police said to me, Okay, that's fine. But first, talk to our supervisor. First, talk to our supervisor. I'm like, Okay. So the supervisor comes in. And he's a very tall guy. He's like 6 '8". And he starts badging me with questions. He's like, Do you know how hot it is outside? Why are you boys not drinking water? It's like I committed a crime. And now he's trying to force a confession out of me. Okay. But I held my gun and says, Listen, I'm his father. The parents say he's fine. The vital signs are fine. I'm going to take him home. And then he says, If you do this, then I'm going to report you to Child Protective Services, Children's Aid Society. And they may prevent you from leaving the country. They may take your child away from you. ### 1:14:03 seg-0114 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0114` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0114](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0114) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4443s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4443s) And I was like, Are you threatening me? Like, what crime have I committed here? And he's like, I'm not threatening you. Okay. But clearly he was. But then we kept on arguing for a long time. And eventually they recognized I was not going to relent. And I was basically like, Give me your name. Give me your number. Give me your badge number. And they recognized that I might file a complaint. And so they eventually said, Fine. We'll drive you home. So they drove us home. They checked my ID. They checked all my information. And the irony of this is that while we were there, the staff came to us and said, Oh, the park downstairs, there's a fight. They're punching each other. And the police called someone else. What's going on here? I'm the father. My son is fine. Let us go. Priorities. Where are your priorities, man? ### 1:15:05 seg-0115 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0115` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0115](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0115) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4505s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4505s) Yeah. Well, that's just how it is. They kind of nitpick. It's anarcho -tyranny. That's really what it is. It's lawlessness. And they fixate on the people who are, you know, trying to obey the law because they know that they're the ones who are going to actually comply. Yeah. So it's. Yeah, I know. I think you that is a great representation of how it is pretty much everywhere. ### 1:15:31 seg-0116 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0116` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0116](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0116) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4531s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4531s) And what was scary is how ambiguous and amorphous it was, because you're not really sure what the lines are. Right. They don't tell you what you've done wrong. They don't tell you what your rights are. They don't tell you why they're doing this. They're all like they're all trying to get you to comply. You know, you're like, well, I mean, I'm his father and he ran off and it was an accident. It was misunderstanding. But he's fine now. So, like, what's the issue here? Right. And we've been there for two months and like you feel like I committed a wrong then come with the wrongness. But they don't tell you what the wrong is. They don't tell you what your rights are. They don't tell you what the process. And like and so I feel as though this is just the over -bureaucratization of society in that, you know, the police, the regulators, they're all trying to get you to comply. ### 1:16:19 seg-0117 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0117` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0117](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0117) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4579s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4579s) Like that's that's a core concern, not to protect the law, not to protect public safety, but to get everyone to comply. ### 1:16:29 seg-0118 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0118` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0118](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0118) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4589s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4589s) And what that does is it causes the criminal element that they ignore to get worse and worse. And then the people who are obedient, you know, or who are actually willing to play by the rules, they're the ones that get, you know, increasingly more shellacked with all this red tape and bureaucracy for no reason. And it's unfortunate because, yeah, that's it's it's a great example, too, of how they leverage. Like you talk there about the police. There was the EMT and then there was also social services. So it was all of the main arms of the police. It was all of the government. It's expensive. Working against you. Yeah. ### 1:17:09 seg-0119 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0119` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0119](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0119) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4629s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4629s) It's very expensive. ### 1:17:10 seg-0120 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0120` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0120](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0120) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4630s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4630s) And so they probably thought that maybe they could, you know, maybe when they realized you were a smart guy and, you know, you spoke the language well, they they weren't able to do whatever it is they I mean, sadly, they probably thought they were doing the right thing. ### 1:17:28 seg-0121 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0121` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0121](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0121) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4648s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4648s) Well, they did. They thought I was an irresponsible father because I should take my child to the hospital. And like, I'm like, what? I take my child to hospital for no reason. Why would I submit my child to such agony? Like, like, I'm his father. You know, I mean, he's my child. I mean, I would know more about my child than a random stranger with a white dude and like, you know, some silly medical equipment. ### 1:17:54 seg-0122 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0122` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0122](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0122) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4674s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4674s) I mean, like, yeah, I mean, I don't know. They they are immediately the experts in that situation. And you're just somebody who, you know, all of your life experience. That you shared with that person is for not because their expertise trumps, even though they they're not experts. ### 1:18:12 seg-0123 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0123` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0123](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0123) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4692s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4692s) So, so, so it was humiliating. It was dehumanizing. It was scary because I really thought that these guys are so crazy in their pursuit of their own virtue that they would steal my own child from me. Right. I mean, can you imagine that? Like my child who doesn't speak English and they were so insistent on taking my child to the hospital. So insistent I comply that they were willing to take my own child away from me. ### 1:18:39 seg-0124 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0124` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0124](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0124) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4719s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4719s) So would something like that happen in China? ### 1:18:43 seg-0125 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0125` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0125](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0125) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4723s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4723s) No, it would not. It would not because there are lots of red tape. There are lots of rules, but people have a sense of empathy here. Right. They understand. Listen, your father, your kid is playful. He runs away. That's normal. Right. And like, honestly, 10 years ago in Canada, it's just common sense that 10 years ago, everyone in Canada would have thought the same way. But I think, you know, after COVID, now with the declining economy, with the unfair connotation of society, with mass immigration in Canada, destroying the social fabric, people have lost their common sense and people are sort of overwhelmed with fear and anxiety. And so they behave like bureaucrats. ### 1:19:27 seg-0126 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0126` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0126](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0126) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4767s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4767s) And see, one of our greatest fears as preppers is what happens in a disaster. When those people are empowered with like emergency powers. So when you see that on steroids, where we kind of seen that during COVID, where all of these people who, you know, I guess it just went to their heads and they had this little hint of power and they leveraged it to the fullest. But in a disaster situation of the many multitude of poly crises that could unfold, you know, how is that psychological element going to run amok in society? Because I think it will be a big problem. And, you know, I completely agree. ### 1:20:14 seg-0127 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0127` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0127](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0127) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4814s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4814s) There's something called the Dunning -Kruger effect, which is like the more confident you are, the more power you have, the stupider you become. Right. So a bureaucracy, Canada is like way over -bureaucratized. As you say, they're not challenged because they're all in it together. They're there. There's no checks and balances. There's no accountability. There's no transparency. So in a disaster, when there's maybe a physical event, right, then they don't know how to respond. And all the responses will be idiotic and incompetent. ### 1:20:49 seg-0128 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0128` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0128](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0128) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4849s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4849s) Yeah. And this is one of the greatest things that is the most challenging for a lot of us as preparedness -minded people. How are we going to deal with that threat? Because it's one thing to have to get some water, get some food, deal with personal security, things of that nature. Those are very sort of one -dimensional problems. But dealing with a totalitarian government who is running on these sort of conformist principles is very challenging. And so how do you think prepping fits into your understanding of game theory and geopolitics? Where do you think this preparedness prepper archetype emerges? And is it present in the East in the same way that it is here in the West? I know China and Russia have sort of a collective prepping culture whereby you guys have underground cities. You have this kind of collectivist sort of mentality that is kind of insulating against major catastrophes. Here, it's kind of like dog -eat -dog. ### 1:21:59 seg-0129 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0129` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0129](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0129) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4919s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4919s) Every man for himself. So as a prepper, you see that, and you see the challenges that you're potentially up against, and it almost forces you to want to be. Well, this whole like self -sufficiency, self -sustainability. Is that even a cultural phenomenon there, or is that just a Western phenomenon? ### 1:22:21 seg-0130 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0130` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0130](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0130) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4941s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=4941s) Okay, so I know it sounds paradoxical, but I think that in China, people are much more prepared for disaster. Than people in Canada. I agree, actually. So, I mean, there's this perception of China as a dictatorship. But in reality, people are free to do what they believe they should do. And so society, it's much more flexible. It's much more resilient. It's much more dynamic than in Canada, where you do have a very characterized top -down system that demands compliance. So if it doesn't disaster. That's just struck in China. People don't assume the government is going to come. They assume that we have to work together. So there's a much greater emphasis on family, on human relationships to resolve issues. And that's the key, like to focus on human relationships, because it's only by working together that you can resolve, that you can prepare for disasters. But in Canada, people have been atomized. People have been individualized, and they think that, okay, this is a disaster. ### 1:23:27 seg-0131 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0131` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0131](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0131) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5007s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5007s) I'll just call 911. Or I'll just wait for the government to come. If the government doesn't come, then what do you do? Well, you should go talk to your neighbor. You should reform grassroots communities in order to respond to disasters. But as you say, the government doesn't want that. The government doesn't want you to be self -reliant because that's a threat to their bureaucracy. ### 1:23:51 seg-0132 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0132` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0132](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0132) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5031s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5031s) Yeah, that's very interesting. So that sort of collectivist local mindset. Yes. Or just being more kind of solution focused is insulating against potential threats. Whereas here, because we're so, you're either conditioned to just call the government and fix all your problems, or you're somebody who is kind of railing or recoiling against that. And you're trying to, the only way to kind of counteract that is with excessive self -sufficiency. Whereas that would be something that wouldn't really lend itself well to the climate where you are. Like a guy, you know, like the lone man in the wilderness is not a Chinese sort of archetype. ### 1:24:41 seg-0133 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0133` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0133](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0133) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5081s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5081s) Yeah. Also remember that Canadians are the luckiest people on the planet. You know, Canadians have never experienced war, never experienced famine, never have experienced disasters. But Chinese have. So Chinese are much more resilient. But look, the reality is that eventually your luck will run out. Eventually there's going to be a massive geophysical event. There might be some massive wars. That's going to be very traumatic. That's going to force Canadians to come together and to be resilient together. And for that to happen, you have to, you know, like watch channels like yours and be skeptical about the world around you. And really try to educate yourself on that. On different possibilities. ### 1:25:27 seg-0134 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0134` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0134](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0134) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5127s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5127s) Yeah. You know, we've experienced World War I and World War II, but our participation was, you know, more remote. There never was like an existential threat to the motherland type thing. So I see what you're saying there. I wanted to ask you a question about, you're familiar with the hundred flowers campaign? I'm not. ### 1:25:50 seg-0135 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0135` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0135](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0135) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5150s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5150s) Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ### 1:25:51 seg-0136 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0136` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0136](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0136) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5151s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5151s) It's like the idea where like the Chinese government allowed people to kind of speak freely about their opinions and before like cracking down. Do you think there's any parallels with that and what we're seeing in social media right now? Like on X, sometimes I'm wondering like it's being talked about as this platform where you can speak freely, speak your mind. But what if that is someday weaponized? You know, it's almost like they want people to feel free to express themselves. And you're really starting to see that now. People are really feeling emboldened to say whatever they want. And I'm like, hmm, are you sure you should be? You sure you want to go down that path? Because maybe they're like setting you up because they want to see like who the problem people are going to be when, you know, I don't know. Did you ever draw any parallels between those two things? ### 1:26:50 seg-0137 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0137` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0137](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0137) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5210s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5210s) Yeah. I mean, that's a great point. I mean, I mean, remember that the Internet is a creation of the American military. It's the American military that controls all the hardware, the fiber optics, the servers, like where all the data is stored. So you really need to be careful what you say online. You don't want to leave too much of a written record because all this data, they're sucking it up. Okay. That's something that social media companies do anyway. They're trying to create an individual profile. Who you are. And so they're trying to categorize you and they're trying to predict your behavior. And so right now they're using that to sell you ads, right? They're trying to, they're using that to promote ads to make you buy stuff. But that can easily be transformed into seeing who is, who will be compliant, who will not be compliant and how to best ensure your certain behavior. Right. ### 1:27:44 seg-0138 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0138` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0138](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0138) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5264s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5264s) And also to create civil conflict. How to feed you certain information to make you. Much more violent, to make you much more hostile. If you want to, instead of civil war, civil unrest, then social media would be a major tool in that. ### 1:28:03 seg-0139 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0139` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0139](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0139) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5283s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5283s) Absolutely. Yeah. It's just, it's, it's interesting that a hundred flowers campaign example, most people are unaware, but I guess the idea was that the government, the Chinese government at the time encouraged people to speak freely, their opinions. And those who did and felt emboldened to do so were eventually had it weaponized against them. And I just wonder if that is not replicating itself in some form here. I just had one more question for you. I just can't remember exactly. I have several questions, but I think I need to wrap it up because I'm starting to, my head's starting to pulsate with this sickness. Unfortunately, it caught me on a really bad day. Okay. So, you know, you've talked a lot about how China is. Is very measured and is non confrontational. What's the red line when they would make a move? When, when would they be forced to engage or come to the direct military support of either Russia or Iran? ### 1:29:07 seg-0140 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0140` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0140](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0140) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5347s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5347s) When do they assist in a capacity, which is not just industrial or behind the scenes? ### 1:29:14 seg-0141 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0141` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0141](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0141) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5354s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5354s) Right. So China's red line, and it's, it's been very explicit about this. Is national sovereignty. So whenever its borders are infringed upon, then China will be forced to act. So that is the ultimate red line. If any nation tries to separate, you know, China's territory from China, then China is forced to act. That could be Taiwan, but that could also include Tibet. That could also include Xinjiang. So that's the ultimate red line. And beyond that, I really don't see any other red lines. I know there are these territorial disputes. And the South China Sea, but that can be negotiated. But if any nation were to branch upon Chinese national sovereignty, then the Chinese military will be forced to act. ### 1:30:00 seg-0142 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0142` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0142](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0142) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5400s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5400s) So you don't think there's a situation, excuse me, in which American encroachment into Taiwan elicits a military response? Like what, what do you make of this? These rumors that China is building these fences? These barriers as a way to stage an amphibious landing on Taiwan? Like, do you believe there's credit to that or? ### 1:30:25 seg-0143 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0143` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0143](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0143) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5425s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5425s) Right. So if you just look at a map, okay, so whatever naval blockade China can implement against Taiwan can itself be blockaded as a piece of the first iron chain, if that makes sense to you, right? Because America has bases in Japan, in South Korea. And so whatever blockade that you have against Taiwan can't be blocked. It can't be sustained in the long term because all these ships can just be bombed. So the possibility of China trying to pull this off is, it's just ridiculous. I mean, it won't be happening. It's like, no one's just stupid to like, you know, ferry tanks across an island. I mean, like, it is possible, okay, if the national sovereignty of China is threatened, China will impose an economic blockade on Taiwan. You know, if you blockade Taiwan, then people are going to have to make lots of sacrifices. They'll be a lot poorer. And Taiwanese people are like, why would we want to do that? ### 1:31:27 seg-0144 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0144` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0144](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0144) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5487s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5487s) Why would we want to anger China for the sake of a principle or, you know, for the idea of independence? That makes no sense. So if you just go to Taiwan, like, no one's talking about a war between Taiwan and China. You come to China, no one's talking about a war between China and Taiwan. It's a pentagon. Yeah. That's promoting the idea of a war because the Pentagon is this imperial bureaucracy that's always looking to justify its existence. ### 1:31:53 seg-0145 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0145` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0145](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0145) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5513s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5513s) But aren't the Taiwanese, aren't they, like I was reading, they have like war preparation guys where they're preparing for like a landed invasion. I believe one was put out in 2023 and they recently put out one that was kind of more of a general emergency preparedness manual. Like, you don't think there's a real, that they consider it to be a real threat? ### 1:32:18 seg-0146 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0146` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0146](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0146) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5538s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5538s) I mean, I'm sure there are these contingency plans in place because that's what the military does, right? A military needs to have different contingency plans in place. You know, there's contingency plans if there's an alien invasion, right? ### 1:32:31 seg-0147 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0147` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0147](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0147) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5551s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5551s) You don't think it's because, I mean, they were able to do, you know, amphibious invasions in World War II. Like, if anybody could do something like that. I think it would be the Chinese. ### 1:32:46 seg-0148 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0148` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0148](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0148) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5566s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5566s) Again, I'm just saying that if I'm the Chinese military and let's just say that I really want to take over Taiwan, right? Yeah. Then my best option is not an amphibious landing because that's dangerous and it requires Do a blockade. You just do a blockade, right? You actually blockade the Taiwan and after, you know, a year they'll submit because they're like, why are we fighting, you know, China? Yeah. You know, so much bigger than we are. ### 1:33:14 seg-0149 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0149` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0149](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0149) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5594s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5594s) And they don't want to blow up all the, you know, chip factories and all that stuff either, right? Like they want to, that's probably the way to do it with the least amount of collateral damage. ### 1:33:26 seg-0150 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0150` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0150](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0150) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5606s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5606s) But also the optics are terrible, right? I mean, like think of all the social, we live in the age of social media, like look at all the images we're seeing from Gaza, right? I mean, like an amphibious landing would just be like really ugly and that's going to compel Japan and South Korea to start. We may be remilitarizing against China. ### 1:33:45 seg-0151 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0151` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0151](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0151) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5625s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5625s) So you don't foresee the Americans getting too involved in Taiwan that it elicits a blockade from China because China is fearing an American response. I mean, doesn't China have the ability to counter that response? ### 1:34:01 seg-0152 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0152` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0152](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0152) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5641s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5641s) Right now, America is over, you know, it's got this, you know, war in Venezuela. It's got this war in Ukraine. It's got this war in Iran. Right. I don't understand why America would start investing more resources in Taiwan. ### 1:34:16 seg-0153 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0153` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0153](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0153) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5656s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5656s) Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't either. I mean, I guess the argument would be that semiconductors are that important and that AI is really that important to them that they're willing to risk it all. Like it's the new, it's the new oil, it's the new gold. So maybe there is a race for artificial superintelligence and if they can't keep Taiwan on lockdown, then the Chinese are going to get there first. I mean, there's that argument, I suppose, that there's also, I suppose, the argument that if China really is the only true, you know, peer competitor to the U.S. and thus they have to try to keep them down. ### 1:34:58 seg-0154 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0154` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0154](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0154) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5698s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5698s) So, again, my prediction is that within the next six months, there will be a major rapprochement between China and America. I think that Trump will eventually visit Beijing and they will send a lot of, you know, a lot of, they'll send a lot of MOUs that signal a major rapprochement. So I would look like the idiot if, you know, China were to invade Taiwan. So, so, so for me, it's, it's, I think it'd be a rapprochement, but it's entirely possible there's an invasion of Taiwan in which case I'm a complete idiot. I mean, like, like, like, like I'm, I'm pretty. ### 1:35:29 seg-0155 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0155` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0155](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0155) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5729s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5729s) No, I like, I like the different perspective. I don't necessarily agree with it, but like, cause the reason why I'm skeptical is because we seen what happened with Putin. And Trump in Alaska. So I could, I could imagine Trump doing something like that for optics, but as soon as he gets back, he's going to start tweeting, you know? So, I mean, I hope that, I hope that the economic symbiotic relationship is, you know, carries us a few more years before things get a little existential for both sides. I agree with you that China. China has a tendency to want to just protect its borders and they don't seem to have any, you know, real imperialist ambitions that are, that aren't just economic, but yeah. ### 1:36:24 seg-0156 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0156` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0156](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0156) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5784s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5784s) And I think that China will come out as the global peacemaker. I think that China will continuously promote a message of peace and prosperity to the world. China will try to use its economic leverage to bring the different. Players to the table. So trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East, trying to negotiate peace in Ukraine. That's where I think China's going to focus most of its diplomatic efforts. ### 1:36:52 seg-0157 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0157` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0157](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0157) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5812s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5812s) Okay. So rapprochement between China, most likely a war with Iran, Venezuela, probably going to try to take out Venezuela and Europe is going to be a stalemate. That's your predictions. ### 1:37:08 seg-0158 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0158` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0158](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0158) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5828s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5828s) Yeah. So to be honest with you, I'm not actually sure what's going to happen in Venezuela. I think they want regime change, but I think they're going to play it by ear. But I think the two major flashpoints again will be Ukraine. Definitely watch what's going to happen between Russia and NATO, as well as the Middle East. Definitely what's going to happen between Israel and Iran. I think these two flashpoints will be the dominant headlines in the next five years. ### 1:37:36 seg-0159 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0159` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0159](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0159) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5856s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5856s) Excellent. Well, I want to thank you for coming out. We're going to definitely have to have you back once again. I will come back, yeah. Guys, go check out the Predictive History YouTube channel, as well as I believe it's – you have a clips channel as well, right? ### 1:37:50 seg-0160 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0160` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0160](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0160) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5870s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5870s) So the two best places to find me are my Predictive History YouTube channel. That's where I upload my lectures, as well as my sub -stack, also called Predictive History. And that's where I write essays and discuss geopolitics, geopolitical issues of today. Perfect. ### 1:38:08 seg-0161 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0161` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0161](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0161) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5888s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5888s) All right. Well, thanks a lot for coming out. And hopefully next time I'm not so subdued by this illness. ### 1:38:16 seg-0162 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0162` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0162](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0162) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5896s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5896s) Yeah. So it was great talking to you. I love what you're doing. I love your channel. So hopefully we can do this again. ### 1:38:23 seg-0163 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:interview-5fvzbufa-yo@transcript:v1#seg-0163` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0163](https://jianglens.com/interviews/interview-5fvzbufa-yo/transcript/#seg-0163) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5903s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvzbUFa_yo&t=5903s) I appreciate that. It's cool to know I have fans out there in China. All right. 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