--- title: "Dante #7: Hell Cantos 10-19 transcript" description: "Source-synced transcript archive for Dante #7: Hell Cantos 10-19." source_title: "Dante #7: Hell Cantos 10-19" published_at: "2026-06-23" source_class: "episode" public_url: "https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/" markdown_url: "https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript.md" text_url: "https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript.txt" source_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss" data_url: "https://jianglens.com/data/lens/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss.json" --- # Dante #7: Hell Cantos 10-19 transcript - Source: [Dante #7: Hell Cantos 10-19](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss) - Published: 2026-06-23, day precision - Human transcript page: [/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/) - Episode page: [/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/) - Transcript Markdown: [/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript.md](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript.md) - Transcript text: [/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript.txt](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript.txt) - Episode JSON: [/data/lens/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss.json](https://jianglens.com/data/lens/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss.json) ## Transcript ### 0:00 seg-0001 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0001` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0001](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0001) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=0s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=0s) good morning a few announcements before we start class um first of all i would like to make a series of apologies um there are a lot of people watching online so i thank everyone for taking the time to watch these videos online and some of you have been complaining about the sound quality as well as the video quality uh first of all i want to thank carol and her team for making all this possible but i need to remind people that this is an academic facility this is not set up for a youtube live stream so i apologize um if this is not up to par um but yale the yale beijing center was not set up to be a youtube live stream facility it was up to an academic exchange facility okay that's point one um point two is um i made many factual mistakes yesterday i've been making many factual mistakes throughout uh ### 0:58 seg-0002 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0002` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0002](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0002) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=58s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=58s) this course so um to be honest with you this is my actually my first time reading divine comedy info okay i've taught the divine company for the past four years but it's always i skip through sections that i think are important so that i can teach it uh because my strategy is to teach to learn so i basically learn what i need in order to teach and that's been very unfair to me so i'm going to go ahead and get started so i'm going to go ahead and get started so i'm going to go ahead and get started so i'm going to go ahead and get started dante um so if i'm making mistakes it's because a lot of this material is new to me and so i see teaching as a process of co -creation of co -discovery okay so thank you for your patience and for your uh understanding and again what we're ### 1:48 seg-0003 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0003` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0003](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0003) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=108s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=108s) trying to do is we're trying to understand dante thematically rather than factually i hope that after class you do go and review what we've learned and make sure that you understand what's going on and also to fix a lot of errors um and my third um apology is that i got emotional yesterday and i think a lot of it is that when i teach i have a lot of goals in mind i have a plan in mind and i get very frustrated i like i like feedback i like to be challenged but sometimes when i am challenged too much i get a bit exact i get frustrated okay so i apologize for for that okay so um before we be in class i want to i want to address an issue from last class i no actually first before i begin are there any questions from last class that you have okay all right so ### 2:59 seg-0004 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0004` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0004](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0004) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=179s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=179s) i want to address an issue from last class which is the idea of lust okay um and we never really reach a satisfactory resolution to the problem the sin of lust why would lust be an issue and again um we have to assume that donnie knows what he's doing so unless we are able to explain to ourselves clearly and explain to others clearly we have not arrived to the solution okay so um um edward when we were talking about lust yesterday okay you had a very interesting comment can you repeat that comment do you remember your comment about picarda and uh francisca the parallels you may not remember it but oh that was you i'm sorry i'm sorry okay ### 3:51 seg-0005 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0005` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0005](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0005) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=231s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=231s) could you can you repeat that um so there seems to be symmetry um yes with regards to the looping i i don't know that's like the ex -programmer i mean he's thinking like like with picarda he she's stuck in the loop right in in the lower levels of heaven and then um where in hell we see that people in lust in the in that hurricane tornado as well as uh um the people that are uh uh gluttonous they're also stuck in an endless cycle right so i just ### 4:22 seg-0006 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0006` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0006](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0006) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=262s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=262s) appreciated that symmetry yes okay so the key to understanding um the idea of lust is to appreciate the symmetry in the um divine comedy um you also need to appreciate the totality of the divine comedy in that he's presenting a complete vision okay so we know from paradise we know from paradise that dante's ultimate message is to live a life of faith hope and love he goes on to define these three concepts as faith is the imagination to believe that god does exist that heaven and hell exists and that god loves us okay without these things it's hard to understand the world and arrive at truth uh hope is the idea of arrogance where you have to believe that you do matter and whatever you do impacts the universe that's why people like rachel roof beatrice rebecca are next to god because these are individuals who had no power had no status but they chose ### 5:37 seg-0007 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0007` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0007](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0007) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=337s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=337s) to live a life of goodness and as a result god rewards them the most okay um love is action right to not just be passive but to be active to believe that injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere okay and so in other words what don is really saying is to live a life of love and imagination that is the ultimate message of the divine comedy but now we have to reconcile this message with the theology of the catholic church at this time and how people understand the world at this time now um in this time there are the seven deadly sins and now what's interesting is that dante does put four of the seven deadly sins in inferno right they are lust um gluttony greed and wrath okay so these these four he does put in the inferno but there are three others that he does not actually put in the inferno he will put them ### 6:53 seg-0008 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0008` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0008](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0008) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=413s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=413s) in purgatory but not inferno okay and they are um envy pride and sloth okay basically laziness all right okay so we need so what dunning does is he replaces these things with other things okay um basically envy pride and sloth are not in inferno you're not punished for these things but you're punished for um fraud violence and treachery okay not only that but he separates he separates the inferno uh with geographic uh dividers okay remember how he they cross the acaron river in order to access um the inferno but then they also have to cross river sticks to access this which is the capital city of inferno okay and but even when we go inside this we'll find that they're actually also major geographic dividers as well so what dunning is suggesting is that the the more you climb into hell the greater the crime okay so we need we need to think about what ### 8:15 seg-0009 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0009` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0009](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0009) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=495s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=495s) the difference is um amongst these different sins and i mean the most basic difference is lust gluttony greed and wrath there are things you do to yourself okay and violence fraud surgery is are things you do to other people okay that that is the clearest difference um and what this matters is that if you with violence fraud and treachery you are disrupting others capacity to live a good life all right uh so that's point one um point two is traditionally these things the seven deadly devin sins are an expression of the eagle right it's like too much you are you want things too much you are expressing ego too much and that's why you have to live a good life okay so have the seven deadly deadly sins but we already said that in paradise arrogance is key to hope so how do you reconcile this dichotomy right and the answer is that what dante ### 9:28 seg-0010 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0010` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0010](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0010) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=568s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=568s) is going to do is show that you have these things lust gluttony greed and wrath because you don't have enough ego does that make sense not enough will all right not enough will and desire all right so if you we read the divine comedy and you look at these four circles lust gluttony greed and wrath it's like they don't have enough ego they don't have enough will they don't have enough hope okay but ### 10:03 seg-0011 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0011` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0011](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0011) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=603s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=603s) did you have a question January well that's that's quite powerful to me because um you're you're saying that uh it's a spectrum like ego free will imagination is a spectrum yes and it goes it goes on the Paradise side positive and it and and the lack of it causes other stuff right ### 10:25 seg-0012 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0012` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0012](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0012) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=625s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=625s) okay okay yeah exactly okay so let me give you an example to illustrate this with will okay with sorry with lust so again the story of lust is Francisca who thought who is married but she falls in love with um her husband's brother and they have this illicit affair the husband finds out and kills both of them and Francisco says is that oh what motivated me is um I was reading these romance novels and I was so enraptured by the plot by the idea of falling in love someone else that I just did it okay and if you know your literature you know that this is the plot line of Madame Bovary right by by um um but yes right that's exactly the plot line okay this you know very bourgeoisie woman she's border she's bored she reads these romance novels and that's why she starts an affair okay so this is this is how ### 11:24 seg-0013 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0013` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0013](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0013) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=684s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=684s) he depicts lust but normally we depict lust as maybe uh the most common example is you really like like a woman and you you know pay her a lot of money right for sex prostitution right so this is a very different conception where uh in the normal understanding prostitution it's the expression of your ego it's like see I have a lot of money I can buy you out whereas with the Francisco story it's not enough will and desire it's like you are escaping your life right you went falling in love with an idea as opposed to a person okay and now to further illustrate this further I'm going to give you three examples and then what I want you guys to do is to rank them according to sin okay the first example is um you love a woman and you give her I don't know a million dollars to sleep with her okay basically ### 12:22 seg-0014 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0014` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0014](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0014) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=742s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=742s) a million dollars second is um you fall in love with a beautiful actress okay like who knows I like like just anyone okay I don't actually know famous Hollywood actresses Jennifer Lopez maybe okay all right so you like you know the rest of your life writing love letters to Jennifer Lopez okay I I seriously don't don't know that many Hollywood actress actresses and the last thing you do is okay we are living in an age of AI so you buy yourself an AI wife okay a robotic wife right now I want you guys to use imagine in that and tell me like all these three which one is the worst in Dante's opinion which one is the absolute worst yes I think probably this sir ### 13:17 seg-0015 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0015` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0015](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0015) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=797s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=797s) because uh you don't really need to like that much of that much of like a strong will to process like a sex robot and um and and the second one will be the second like uh um severe will be maybe like uh keep writing love letters to the Hollywood actress actress because it's just like you're not really taking the actions right you're just like you're writing the love letters and uh at least the simple one is just to like uh to hire a prostitute to pay her a million dollars at least you're like ### 13:55 seg-0016 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0016` - 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Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0018` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0018](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0018) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=886s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=886s) have a connection okay anyone else yes I think the if your friend love is a actress I mean no matter what uh he or she is a celebrity right so it doesn't mean that celebrity cannot be loved but because love is free will right so you can love love her love anyway what this is real true love I suppose but AI wife is different because AI is not real person so uh I don't think the love can be uh produced you know if you just fall in love with something and uh and also fall in love with uh some people and give them dollars I think it's it's all right unless you just you don't only want sex you want to have comfort maybe it's okay just like you give your ### 15:31 seg-0019 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0019` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0019](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0019) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=931s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=931s) money to your wife right right um anyone else uh yes so in Dante's time these are my opinions in Dante's time then they would see lust as um natural and natural and natural lust would lead to marriage and reproduction yes and so um if God is love you could not be a woman or a woman is a woman and you not have bring god into the number three the robots um relationship so that would be the worst yes there's a possibility that you fall in love with the prostitute and get married or jennifer lopez falls in love with you and gets married and have babies and that's good god dies right exactly ### 16:04 seg-0020 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0020` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0020](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0020) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=964s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=964s) yeah yeah okay good number three yes anyone else uh yes um so it's like the triangle theory of love ### 16:16 seg-0021 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0021` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0021](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0021) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=976s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=976s) it's either errors which is passion with the body and then there's friendship which is connection with a soul and then commitment or something which is leading to marriage and so in that triangle the prostitute fulfills the body part so it's not as bad it's one part of one aspect of love and the letters for jennifer lopez is the soul connection or friendship aspect but i think the worst is the robot one uh because it's neither all all three yeah good okay wait the obvious ### 16:44 seg-0022 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0022` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0022](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0022) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1004s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1004s) answer is number three okay um and how and how we know is we can actually go back and and like use the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the these three actions criteria faith hope and love okay and i mean there are different formulations you provide both of you have really good formulations but the main reason is you've basically given up on yourself right think about it you marry a robotic wife that is despair you don't take yourself seriously anymore right you're so lonely uh you are so uh humiliated that you're like you know what i'll just go i'll just go and marry a robotic wife just keep myself company okay so for dante and for the catholic church as well number three is the worst possible ### 17:29 seg-0023 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0023` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0023](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0023) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1049s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1049s) um sin and it's expression yes and we say that uh sins that impact others are worse so like the robotic robotic wife is only concerning yourself but giving a million would be abandoning yourself and also the other's life because because she has a million then she's gonna go into life of like spending and all so concerns two person which i see as worse right right right you're right okay ### 17:55 seg-0024 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0024` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0024](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0024) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1075s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1075s) so it's conditional okay we're assuming that in number one um she's a prostitute and she just agrees right um like she's willing to do this we agree but if she if she's being coerced to do it and then obviously number one is a lot worse right and we'll actually go into that um as we descend into hell okay so but we're assuming like this is not impacting the other person right ### 18:19 seg-0025 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0025` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0025](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0025) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1099s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1099s) okay but thank you for that yes can we also say it's three because it inspires the least ### 18:23 seg-0026 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0026` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0026](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0026) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1103s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1103s) imagination exactly right yeah so again we have to think about the totality of the divine comedy right we want to live a life of faith hope and love and living a life of faith hope and love means taking yourself seriously okay like don't be passive be active and number three um it's basically giving up life okay and that's why lust is a problem because lust is like you're escaping to a fantasy right francisca's escaping to a fantasy if she really loved um the husband's brother they would just elope together right but it's not like that it's like you know she she's what she's doing is she's reading a romance novel and she's trying to project her fantasies on to another person right and she doesn't really care who that person is she has absolutely no feelings for that person and when but when she does that she's not taking herself seriously enough right she doesn't ### 19:19 seg-0027 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0027` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0027](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0027) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1159s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1159s) really have uh faith hope and love okay does that make sense so that helps us explain why lust is a problem and how it fits into the larger dantian cosmology all right any questions before i continue all right my next point is this um for the next two three days we will finish the inferno and the inferno is very different from paradiso okay so think of paradiso as ultimately sorry this is um okay thank you vision okay or the apocalypse so in thank you so so in the in the biblical tradition in the religious tradition uh the populace means revelation okay what god shows you what the vision is so think of paradiso as uh dante's last will and testament he's telling us what his vision for the universe is for the for the future for the future for the future for uh for us is okay the inferno is different the inferno is what ### 20:32 seg-0028 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0028` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0028](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0028) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1232s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1232s) we call prophecy and you're like wait a minute aren't the same thing okay today yes they are the same thing but back then prophecy is very different from vision okay prophecy is a critique of the present right if you read the bible all these people azaya jeremiah ezekiel they've come down to criticize the the critics to like say you guys are sinning okay if you don't sin god's going to come and punish you okay that's what prophecy is not one of like like fortune telling but one of social critique so that's what the inferno is it's fundamentally a social critique and so what i want to do today is basically read the inferno and understand it ultimately as dante criticizing his society the people around him and also what i want to do is i want us to think about do his criticisms of 40 society apply to us today okay but this is important ### 21:47 seg-0029 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0029` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0029](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0029) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1307s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1307s) is that there's a really good reason why the comedy okay at this time in history when dante wrote it's called la cabildina but later on to apply the word divine to it meaning it grapevine it comes through to us is the word of god okay because authentic dies in year 1321 and um in year 1321 when he dies people don't really understand what this is what's going on right because we have in paradise uh peter lambasting the catholic church we also have beatrice in her final words cursing humanity right you guys are hopeless we sent the savior to you and you ignored him and you're all going to burn in hell okay and this is very much part of prophetic tradition right so if you're reading this in the year 1321 you um just don't know what's going on but this happened something happens in year 1357 that convinces that everyone that dante is a ### 22:56 seg-0030 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0030` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0030](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0030) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1376s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1376s) prophet do you know what happens to you 1357 in italy can you guys guess i'm pretty sure you know what it is come on this thing kills a lot of people the black death okay and how would they interpret the black death divine retribution divine judgment okay do you understand what happens after black dev is the renaissance right when they fully embrace dante you guys understand the sequence of events 1321 donnie dies and he's cursing you cursing humanity says like the heavens curse you and everyone's like well you know so what 1357 the black death where at least okay at least a third of europe dies can you imagine that a third of europe dies some places it's even half or three quarters of the population okay this is a complete disaster okay the worst possible calamity to befall on humanity at this time and so you can only turn to the ciary in america ### 24:09 seg-0031 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0031` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0031](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0031) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1449s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1449s) and it means probably that if we suck more than half theui of what what's going on at the top so even if we mix this up with theler makes the deuce at that time what's possible it's still gonna happen eye over eye what the deuce causes complication and we die or is it self and how does that effect the of the death of christ the renaissance seven years off but revolution flew the budgeting colors that is element they just need to do since i don't care about those folks like 엄 Breathe that it john will be unforgettable this as divine retribution or judgment okay all right and dante knows it's coming right because all prophets knows knows it's coming that's why they're so angry right they're like you know if you just read the bible whether it's azaya or uh daniel or just any of the prophets okay they're really really angry because they know ### 24:40 seg-0032 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0032` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0032](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0032) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1480s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1480s) it's coming they know god will have his vengeance will have his retribution okay but this again creates a paradox for us because if dante knows it's coming and he's very angry but he also says that god is all loving all forgiveness all mercy how can we ### 24:59 seg-0033 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0033` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0033](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0033) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1499s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1499s) reconcile this paradox what's the logic of this yes uh that god is trying to show humanity something no he's not trying to show ### 25:11 seg-0034 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0034` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0034](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0034) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1511s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1511s) right because a third of humanity will die what what's going on here this is punishment we just said that if you love someone you don't punish someone okay let's use your imagination okay let's just say we're a parent and we have a child for whatever reason okay we don't know why but for every reason this child has become a drug addict and he or she commits a lot of crime in order to feed his or her drug addiction if we truly ### 25:50 seg-0035 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0035` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0035](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0035) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1550s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1550s) love our child what would we do yes uh send him to the rehab then into the rehabilitation okay ### 26:05 seg-0036 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0036` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0036](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0036) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1565s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1565s) right uh any other suggestions the person has kick him out call the police right because he or she has stolen all money criminal crimes in order to feed his or her drug addiction he or she belongs in jail okay retribution is this vengeance or is it love what's the difference love but why is it love you're ### 26:30 seg-0037 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0037` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0037](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0037) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1590s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1590s) trying to control the amount of harm they have on other people okay any other this uh you're bringing ### 26:41 seg-0038 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0038` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0038](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0038) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1601s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1601s) up the the good samaritan issue in the bible where like the person who like helps them is actually enabling them and the person that like ignores them makes them realize on their own their errors ### 26:52 seg-0039 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0039` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0039](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0039) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1612s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1612s) and fix themselves okay right okay so the logic is this the logic is like if you truly love someone you want what's best for that person right you want that person to live the best possible life that that's what love is and if the person is like has a drug addiction that person cannot live his or her best life she had to do something about it okay and like enabling it sending sending sending him or her to rehab that doesn't really solve the problem okay what you have to do is basically let him or her hit rock bottom before he or she can lift her himself up okay does that make sense okay so apply this to the black dev why would god unleash a black dev god didn't do this but i'm saying like why would people think ### 27:39 seg-0040 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0040` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0040](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0040) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1659s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1659s) it's it's it's god humanity is humanity has a lot of problems and god needs to make us reach rock bottom to realize our problems and fix them ourselves right okay so that is the ### 27:53 seg-0041 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0041` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0041](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0041) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1673s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1673s) message of the divine comedy okay and it's the inverse of catholic church the catholic church is don't screw up and you go to heaven um and if you screw up you go to hell okay so it's a high risk situation for dante there is no risk god will forgive you always but because god will always forgive you always that gives you responsibility to live your best life okay to live a life of faith hope and love and if you cannot live that even if you want to live that you cannot live that then god will intervene in a way that permits you to live that okay so another saying this is society has has become so corrupt has become so evil so sinful that an ordinary person like dante cannot live a life of faith hope and love anymore in that situation there will be divine intervention okay there god has to intervene because if ### 29:00 seg-0042 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0042` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0042](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0042) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1740s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1740s) god truly loves us god needs to ensure that we have the opportunity to live a life of hope faith and love all right yes ### 29:15 seg-0043 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0043` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0043](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0043) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1755s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1755s) uh i believe as a professor and and also it makes me recall memory that you know if the you're uh for example if i'm a member with this being you know you know sick bat right and keep waiting for death and at that time you know i'm i think other people just didn't don't believe in money they believe in god because only the god can can you know can give him back or can just you know let him recover so maybe god is trying to test people and just let them to know that uh what if chasing forward money the power is useless in front of the units right just like you know the uh so right now uh you know uh we can call kobe 19 right so maybe yeah okay all right okay so so um to start off our discussion ### 29:58 seg-0044 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0044` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0044](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0044) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1798s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1798s) of dante as a prophet okay as a social critic uh as someone who is telling people that divine vengeance is coming uh this is a comment from uh youtube it's the same person who who commented about uh peter and the coin okay it's a very good comment so so we're gonna read it just to like understand uh don as a prophet okay uh uh carol could you read please sure it is wild ### 30:25 seg-0045 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0045` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0045](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0045) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1825s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1825s) how many people in this lecture treat dante like a harmless academic monument and he is a true hero for the people dante oligary was not born into absolute luxury or the elite upper class as a son of a low -level money lender he had to completely hustle his way through his academics using sheer intellectual genius to break into elite philosophical and geometric circles he was also hardened a hardened combat veteran who fought on the front lines as a cavalryman for the florentine army at the bloody battle of kempen paladino in 1289 he was a champion who used his hard -earned political power to protect ordinary citizens from a corrupt predatory establishment in 1300 he was elected as a ruling minister of florence and immediately passed bold laws to strip the corrupt local franciscan inquisitor of his power stopping the church from weaponizing heresy checklists to extort bribes and plunder the financial purses of wealthy families ### 31:25 seg-0046 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0046` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0046](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0046) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1885s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1885s) dante even sacrificed his own personal life for the law voting to exile his own best friend to keep the peace and prove that justice belongs to the people not political factions the papal establishment struck back with absolute malice pope boniface boniface viii lured dante to rome on a fake diplomatic mission while secretly launching a military coup that tore down dante's home seized all his assets and locked his name into the infamous book of the nail registry sentencing him to be burned alive at the stake forced into a 19 -year exile as a hunted fugitive dante never backed down he proved that the ultimate weapon against a blood -soaked political apparatus is radical uncensored love and spiritual freedom he used his poetry to expose the rulers who financialized grace putting corrupt popes in hell while they were still alive while preaching that the entire universe is actually powered by his decentralized unbannable divine love that no ### 32:24 seg-0047 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0047` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0047](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0047) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1944s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1944s) empire can ever trap behind a paywall dante was so terrified of his message of human deliberation that in 1329 cardinal bertrand de bouger sent armed men to dig up his dead body and burn his bones to ashes forcing local franciscan monks to hide his skeleton in a wall for centuries dante was a rogue insider who gave up his wealth his status and his safety to shield the divine spark and build an eternal escape hatch for ### 32:52 seg-0048 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0048` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0048](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0048) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1972s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=1972s) humanity okay um so of course there's a bit of exaggeration in it okay but the essence is very much true he is he was a prophet and this is the life of a prophet one of constant alienation persecution and exile all right and there's no other way um he chose to live a life of faith hope and love and when he cannot do that then he knows that society is unjust when society is unjust then god will eventually have to intervene okay and that's why in pyridiso in this place of peace and mercy and love peter and beatrice will go on this tirade against humanity okay it is a promise of divine judgment all right and so we will what what we will do today and tomorrow and we will focus on what's going on in foreign society to make dante uh demand divine vengeance retribution okay not not only is he a prophet telling ### 33:58 seg-0049 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0049` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0049](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0049) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2038s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2038s) people that he's a prophet but he's also that divine retribution is coming but he's also a messenger of god an angel who is demanding from god the divine retribution and judgment okay all right so uh we're gonna pick up from inferno uh where did we end last time okay so so so let's let's do number 10 okay all right but are there any questions about this before we start reading again the goal for today and tomorrow is figure on in foreign society to make dante so angry at the world okay why does he feel so hopeless ### 34:43 seg-0050 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0050` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0050](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0050) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2083s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2083s) all right okay all right so let's let's uh okay canto 10 now by a narrow path that ran between those torments and the ramparts of the city my master moves ahead eye following oh highest virtue you who lead me through these circles of transgression at your will do you speak to me and can those who lie within the sepulchers be seen the lids in fact have all been lifted no guardians washing over them and he to me they'll all be shuttered up when they return here from jahesищ together with the flesh they left above within this region is the cemetery of epicurus and his followers all those who say the soul dies with body and so the question you have asked of me will soon find satisfaction while we're here as well the longing you have hid from me okay all right so so ### 35:32 seg-0051 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0051` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0051](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0051) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2132s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2132s) remember where we are okay we've crossed the river oxford nicholas and we're in so the river of oscar sticks and we are now in a city of this which the capital of hell and so we are now meeting the worst offenders these are people who have not who've not only seen them sin against themselves but they've sinned against others especially god and uh the first people we meet are the heretics okay the people who have misled uh people from god and their punishment is to basically lie uh in these tombs and they're burning to to death and virgil says the main heresy is the the epiracus and his fathers appear the epicarians believe that there is no soul there's no heaven and hell so all that means is while you're on earth just have a blast man have a feast eat the best food have sex every day uh wear the best clothes just enjoy ### 36:29 seg-0052 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0052` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0052](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0052) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2189s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2189s) yourself and for dante this is just pure heresy okay he hates his idea because if you think about it why he hates his idea is that it completely removes the need for faith hope and love right if there's nothing after this why have faith why have hope why have love okay so for dante he takes great offense at the epicarians and everyone that's burning here are the epicarians okay all right let's keep on going line 19 ### 37:03 seg-0053 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0053` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0053](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0053) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2223s) and i good guide the only reason i have hit my heart was that i might speak briefly and you long sins encouraged me in this o tuscan you who pass a life across the fiery city with such seemly words be kind enough to stay your journey here your accent makes it clear that you belong among the natives of the noble city i may have dealt with so vindictively okay so dante and virgil are talking ### 37:26 seg-0054 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0054` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0054](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0054) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2246s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2246s) and then someone overhears them this is kava kante who is uh someone that um dawning knew very well okay kava kante and kava kante hears dante's accent says hey you must be you must be from florence let's talk okay all right keep on going line 28 this sound had burst so ### 37:50 seg-0055 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0055` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0055](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0055) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2270s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2270s) unexpectedly out of once a poker that trembling i then drew a little closer to my guide but he told me turn around what are you doing that's for anata who has risen there you'll see all of him from the waist up my eyes already were intent on his and up he rose his forehead and his chest as if he had tremendous scorn for hell my guide his hands encouraging and quick thrust me between the pokers toward him saying your words must be appropriate when i draw closer to closer to his poker he glanced at me and as if in disdain he asked of me who were your ancestors because i wanted so to be compliant i had no thing for him from him i told them all at this he lifted up his brows a bit then said they were ferocious enemies of mine and i wanted to protect them from the wrath of my ### 38:36 seg-0056 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0056` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0056](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0056) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2316s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2316s) parents and my party so that i had to scatter them twice over if they were driven out i answered him they still returned both times from every quarter but yours were never quick to learn that art at this there rose another shade alongside uncovered to my sight down to his chin i think that he had risen on his knees he looked around me just as he longed to see if i had come with someone else but then his expectations bent he said in tears if it is your high intellect that lets you journey here through this blind prison i will not let you go i will not let you where is my son why is he not with you okay so this is very important okay so let me explain ### 39:11 seg-0057 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0057` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0057](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0057) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2351s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2351s) what's going on um dante is talking to someone and then someone else overhears and this person is cover context so sorry i i misspoke okay the first shade is not cover content the second shade is cover content and cover content knows it's dante and cover content says um if it is your high intellect that lets you journey here where is my son okay what what is important is that um the son of the shade his name is gaido and gaido and dante are competitors they're both poets they're trying to be the best poet in florence right and what god and what cover content is saying to dante is hey if you are able to make it here with your poetry then where's my son right he's at least equal to you it doesn't make sense all right so so let's see what the ### 40:07 seg-0058 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0058` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0058](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0058) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2407s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2407s) dante uh says line 61 i answered my own powers have not brought me he who awaits me there leads me through here perhaps to one your guido did disdain his words the nature of his punishment these had already let me read his name therefore my answer was so fully made then suddenly erect he cried what's that he did disdain he's not still alive the sweet light does not strike against his eyes and when he noticed how i hesitated a moment in my answer he felt a sense of guilt and he said i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry he held back supine and did not show himself again okay so this is a really crucial scene okay ### 40:43 seg-0059 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0059` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0059](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0059) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2443s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2443s) so imagine what's going on cover kante asked dante where is my son and dante is like um god disdains him and then cover kante is like then my son is dead and donnie and donnie knows for a fact that his son is not dead okay but donnie does not correct him all right do you guys understand what's going on here's the question why is dante doing this okay let's imagine if you're you right like you meet the father of your of your friend and your father says why isn't your friend and the father says why why isn't my son with you what should your ### 41:33 seg-0060 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0060` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0060](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0060) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2493s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2493s) answer be maybe just tell him the truth if i were the friend yeah just something like he's living a ### 41:45 seg-0061 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0061` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0061](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0061) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2505s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2505s) great life back in florence that's why he couldn't be here right instead dante kind of lies and says well um it's your son is kind of dead oh would he do that ### 42:04 seg-0062 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0062` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0062](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0062) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2524s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2524s) uh yes i mean so that the father knows that the son is not in hell because if he was dead i mean because he is in hell so um if his son were dead then he would know if he would be in hell so ### 42:19 seg-0063 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0063` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0063](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0063) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2539s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2539s) that's a generous explanation but um it's you're still lying you know he's alive back in florence ### 42:27 seg-0064 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0064` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0064](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0064) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2547s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2547s) why would he do that yes oh he's in hell go with the flow right like i noticed too like as he as we descend you know further we descend he his his responses seem to be more pious more cruel okay ### 42:42 seg-0065 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0065` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0065](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0065) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2562s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2562s) all right so let me tell you a story okay this happened um in china where there were two students at uh qinghua university or was it piggy university i can't i can't remember okay but one of the top students in china and their best friends and their their roommates and one the one of the girls receives a graduate offer from princeton university okay and she she's not she's not in a dorm it's her classmate who gets it okay so what does a classmate do they're best friends they're both they've been roommates for the past four years they're both aspiring to go to the every league and yet be the college helm in this edu college and so she wants to go to that and she goes to is my grandma so she goes to bed at this time that's when the envelope comes to the other person what does this other person do with that ### 43:32 seg-0066 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0066` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0066](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0066) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2612s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2612s) envelope can you guys guess she throws it away isn't there like email now i i understand i think i'm saying like before in the 90s okay why would that happen jealousy yeah but like but like let's explain this okay let's feel this they've been living together for four years right they are the best university in the world regardless of what happens both will aspire to both will live great lives right even if even if they say in china they're still going to be great people they'll be rich and all that yes i think it's the fact that it's ### 44:17 seg-0067 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0067` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0067](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0067) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2657s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2657s) harder to accept the person you are the closest with who are equal to you in every way at least in your eyes suddenly got so elevated out of you so that's there's also i'll agree that if a crab is trying to climb out of the boat the other crabs will grab him down no okay i understand that okay ### 44:34 seg-0068 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0068` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0068](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0068) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2674s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2674s) that's that that that's correct yes i understand but i'm saying like what sort of culture what sort of environment would would create that right because in theory right you would want the best for your friend you like like if if you receive the envelope you would open it and you'd be like oh my god my foot my best friend got into princeton let me tell the whole world let's let's organize a big surprise party for her right that's what you should naturally do so so the question i'm asking is like what sort of culture what sort of environment what sort of society would make someone do that yes oh sorry sorry ### 45:11 seg-0069 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0069` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0069](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0069) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2711s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2711s) that could be meritocracy because if you think you provided the same efforts then if someone has something it's the meritocracy okay it's the meritocracy this is the key yes ### 45:27 seg-0070 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0070` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0070](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0070) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2727s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2727s) okay and how do we know it's a meritocracy because we live in it okay we know exactly what happens in the meritocracy all these students but did you just add i think that was what i was trying to say ### 45:41 seg-0071 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0071` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0071](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0071) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2741s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2741s) also you see this a lot in sibling rivalry yes too because the closer you are to another person the more more it impacts you their success their so so you know right so a meritocracy is a high pressure ### 45:56 seg-0072 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0072` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0072](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0072) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2756s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2756s) winner takes all unforgiving culture right well dante and guido are competing to be the best poet in italy and right now who who's part in the lead no the other guy okay right you understand that's why he tears up that envelope he's like screw this you understand okay so there's a lot of things going on and that's why this is a great story because it shows you how sinful dante is right he's full of fear he's in this kind of a mood he's in a really bad mood and he's like you know anger and hatred but at the same time it gives you a glimpse into the larger Florentine society where only the best are appreciated everyone else is discarded right and it's no different from today because we these back then it was a bit of a meritocracy but today it's also a meritocracy and you guys like living in a meritocracy probably not ### 46:55 seg-0073 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0073` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0073](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0073) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2815s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2815s) okay I mean if you I don't but what but I mean you could okay but so do you understand this hey what's going on yes ### 47:04 seg-0074 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0074` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0074](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0074) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2824s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2824s) it's a culture of winners and losers right whenever in a pure meritocracy it will be a hierarchical and obviously by numbers sure number of souls being happy ### 47:13 seg-0075 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0075` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0075](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0075) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2833s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2833s) you'd have less of it right okay and ideally you would live in a society of community right what people are helping each other but here in Florence at this time it's winner -take -all it's it's yes but ### 47:28 seg-0076 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0076` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0076](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0076) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2848s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2848s) but meritocracy um gives equal chances to relatively can give equal chances to people who were not born who didn't win the birth lottery and also you could say ### 47:41 seg-0077 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0077` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0077](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0077) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2861s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2861s) it has high efficiency yes yes that that that's what you what you were taught ### 47:45 seg-0078 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0078` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0078](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0078) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2865s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2865s) what's yeah but yes I see some quite interesting parallels between uh the meritocracy argument and how we saw in Paradiso the arguments against logic because it's this idea that while we have this system and through logic or pure meritocracy we will come to some ideal solution but we see both with meritocracy and the idea of logic that ### 48:09 seg-0079 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0079` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0079](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0079) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2889s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2889s) we don't there's something deeper though yeah I mean like okay I mean like let's think about how schools work nowadays right kids go in and they compete against each other on tests and if you do on tests you're smart if you do on well if you don't do on tests you're stupid and the smart kids are funneled into at least universities where they can beat against more people then they are funneled into life where they compete against more people right are these kids happy probably not okay so then you ask ### 48:43 seg-0080 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0080` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0080](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0080) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2923s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2923s) yourself what's the point of this yes so what would be the opposite of meritocracy you know what would be what what other system would you put in place rather than meritocracy okay ### 48:59 seg-0081 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0081` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0081](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0081) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2939s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2939s) um well what are some other options we have ### 49:04 seg-0082 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0082` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0082](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0082) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2944s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2944s) um because um to me intuitively the opposite of meritocracy is like nepotism or favoritism or uh you know like you know birthright and that stuff okay so so yeah you're right okay so one ### 49:20 seg-0083 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0083` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0083](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0083) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2960s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2960s) possibility is the aristocracy right where you have nobility in charge and they're in charge ### 49:26 seg-0084 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0084` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0084](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0084) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2966s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2966s) forever why would that be a bad system yes because power is inherited so you have to win the birth of the aristocracy some nobility is passed down to blood and you cannot other people cannot have a ### 49:44 seg-0085 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0085` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0085](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0085) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2984s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=2984s) chance okay so there's no social mobility yes yeah I mean if the same people are in power then and then the parents always like gift their same values to their children then nothing will ever change so there will be no like mobility social mobility now that like change basically so so ### 50:03 seg-0086 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0086` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0086](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0086) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3003s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3003s) so are you saying we have social mobility in a meritocracy more than in more than in more than in an aristocracy okay um I suggest going to an elite university and like just doing a study of like how many rich kids there are there okay as opposed to like poor kids yes ### 50:26 seg-0087 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0087` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0087](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0087) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3026s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3026s) yes isn't half of all elite universities like Legacy yes I I appreciate that yes I I wait yes and are you calling that a meritocracy then it seems like yeah that's a problem right ### 50:37 seg-0088 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0088` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0088](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0088) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3037s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3037s) like yes yeah I was just gonna say meritocracy that's why um it's just a label right it's whatever we want to call it it's just using the same stick to measure society like money like all these prestige and all that right okay so so so okay we have a ### 50:53 seg-0089 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0089` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0089](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0089) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3053s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3053s) situation where um basically half the kids at these elite universities um but but not at Yale right no not a year um so at least half the kids there are Legacies um so it's basically an aristocracy or an oligarchy okay how but how are they different from previous nobility yes ### 51:21 seg-0090 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0090` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0090](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0090) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3081s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3081s) I feel like in a meritocracy people value their own personal skill more than where they come from and like the connections that they have for example in a meritocracy we value education we value people who have skill and talent and we value like critical thinking and problem solving and all these skills rather than like who your family is and what your birthright is is that really true yes so I think meritocracy ### 51:59 seg-0091 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0091` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0091](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0091) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3119s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3119s) is like upgrade from aristocracy which is purely Legacy so like right now in American Elite University if you read Columbia professors um the excellent sheep it talks about the problem of the universities think that they earn their place by hard work but I also learn about educational philosophy and research we know that uh social economic status have a better bigger impact on the the kids IQ than the IQ itself like you know on the kids academic performance than their brain powers and everything else combined um and so therefore meritocracy today it is still in a way affected by aristocracy But if you truly believe in meritocracy, you'll be like, oh, I earned all this because I worked so hard. And then you didn't know that your parents actually also gave you the birth lottery. ### 52:51 seg-0092 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0092` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0092](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0092) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3171s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3171s) Yeah, so that's the first problem with meritocracy, OK? Yes, I know meritocracy is about fairness. But why is it then that we live in a point in history when there's never been much more inequality and lack of social mobility, OK? This is just acting like it's true. There's just, like, this time in history, the era we're living in now is the most unequal in human history, OK? And a lot of the reason is that people who've been from meritocracy think they deserved it, right? So they are much more likely to increase inequality because they think that it is fair. Whereas before, nobility, at least they were embarrassed about it, right? OK, that's the first problem. Second problem is, I don't think it's actually true that in meritocracy, people care about skills and talent. I think in meritocracy, people care about skills and talent. I think in meritocracy, people care about credentials, right? ### 53:45 seg-0093 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0093` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0093](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0093) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3225s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3225s) And sometimes credentials and skills are not the same thing, OK? So again, we're just thinking about our context and how to apply it to context, OK? But regardless, one major issue at this time in history in Florence is the competition among people so that they think that they're all enemies. Even friends think they're enemies, OK? And this anecdote illustrates that. And this anecdote illustrates that. And I mean, this, I mean, like, what Donny did, is it pretty bad? It's cruel, right? I mean, it's no different from the classmate ripping up that Princeton offer, right, and just hiding it from her classmate. It's pretty cruel. And that's the idea here, where this competition is leading people to the greatest cruelty, unimaginable cruelty. Like, the father is dead, man. The father is burning in hell, and you still have to punish him. Yeah, it's like killing him twice. Excuse me? ### 54:50 seg-0094 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0094` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0094](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0094) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3290s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3290s) It's like killing him twice. Yeah, right? ### 54:52 seg-0095 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0095` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0095](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0095) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3292s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3292s) It's like killing him twice. Because, like, your only consolation if you're burning in hell is, well, at least my son is doing well back in Florence. He's still a great poet, right? But because, like, obviously, him asking the question just shows him how proud he is of his son, right? If you, Donny, can get here, well, so can my son, right? So it's this love for the son. And that pisses Donny off. It's like, no, you're not your son. Your son is also burning in hell. Thank you very much. OK? All right? But you see how this one story is just revealing to us a larger social context. OK? All right. Let's keep on going. ### 55:30 seg-0096 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0096` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0096](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0096) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3330s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3330s) Line 73. But that great -hearted one, the other shade at whose request I'd stayed, did not change aspect or turn aside his head or lean or bend, and taking up his words where he'd left off. If they were slow, he said, to learn that art, that is more torment to me than this bed. And yet the lady whose ruler here will not have her face kindled fifty times before you learn how heavy is that art. And so may you return to the sweet world. Tell me, why are those citizens so cruel against my kin and all of their decrees? ### 56:03 seg-0097 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0097` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0097](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0097) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3363s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3363s) OK. So now Donny's left Cavalcante because Cavalcante's in despair, right? And now he's talking to Ferranita. And Ferranita is also contemporary of Dante. And Ferranita is an aristocrat. Who? Who? Who led Donny's enemies to conquer Florence. Remember, at this time Florence is in a civil war between the Ghibellines, who are aristocrats, nobility, and the Guelphs. The Guelphs are merchants. They are the middle class. OK. And Donny belongs to the Guelphs. OK. So this is a class warfare. And the Ghibellines are supported by the Holy Roman Emperor. And the Guelphs are supported by the Pope. Eventually the Guelphs themselves will fracture between the Black Guelphs and the White Guelphs. OK. But Ferranita, he is a Ghibelline. OK. He's an aristocrat. OK. All right. Can you keep on reading? ### 57:01 seg-0098 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0098` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0098](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0098) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3421s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3421s) Line 85. To which I said, the carnage, the great bloodshed that stains the waters of the Arbia Red have led us to such prayers in our temple. He sighed and shook his head, then said, in that I did not act alone, but certainly I did not have joined the others without cause. But where I was alone was there. Where all the rest would have annihilated Florence had I not interceded forcefully. ### 57:25 seg-0099 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0099` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0099](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0099) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3445s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3445s) OK. So this is a very famous episode from this history, where after the Ghibellines take over Florence, they want to kill all the Guelphs. OK. They want to kill all the families of the Guelphs and destroy all the property of the Guelphs. And Ferranita, he intervenes and says, no, we can't do that because this is Florence. We are first and foremost citizens of Florence. And then we are Ghibellines. Then we are partisans. OK. So he heroically saves Florence and Donna is paying him homage here. OK. Keep on going. ### 58:05 seg-0100 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0100` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0100](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0100) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3485s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3485s) Line 94. Ah, as I hope your seed may yet find peace, I asked, so may you help me to undo the knot that here has snarled my course of thought? It seems, if I hear right, that you can see beforehand that which time is carrying, but you're denied the sight of present things. We see even as men who are farsighted those things, he said, that are remote from us. The highest Lord allots us that much light. But when events draw near or are, our minds are useless. Were we not informed by others, we should know nothing of your human state. So you can understand how our awareness will die completely at the moment when the portal of the future has been shut. Then, as if penitent for my omission, I said, will you now tell that fallen man his son is still among the living ones? And if a while ago I held my tongue ### 58:53 seg-0101 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0101` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0101](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0101) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3533s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3533s) before his question, let him know it was because I had in mind the doubt you've answered. ### 58:57 seg-0102 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0102` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0102](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0102) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3537s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3537s) OK. So here, Dante is so embarrassed. He tells Ferenita, I can't go back to Cavalcante and apologize, right? But could you do it for me, please? OK. All right. So again, it shows you how problematic Dante is at this stage in his life, right? He's full of fear, hatred, and envy. Keep on going. ### 59:23 seg-0103 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0103` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0103](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0103) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3563s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3563s) Line 115. And now my master was recalling me so that, more hurriedly, I asked the spirit to name the others who were there with him. He said, more than a thousand lie with me. The second, Frederick, is but one among them, as is the cardinal. I name no others. With that, he hid himself, and pondering the speech that seemed to me so menacing, I turned my steps to meet the ancient poet. He moved ahead, and as we made our way, he said to me, why are you so dismayed? I satisfied him, answering him fully. And then that sage exhorted me, remember the words that have been spoken here against you. Now pay attention. And he raised his finger. When you shall stand before the gentle splendor of one whose gracious eyes see everything, then you shall learn from her your lifetime's journey. Following that, his steps turned to the left, leaving the wall and moving ### 1:00:14 seg-0104 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0104` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0104](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0104) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3614s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3614s) toward the middle along a path that strikes into a valley whose stench, as it rose up, disgusted us. ### 1:00:20 seg-0105 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0105` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0105](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0105) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3620s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3620s) Okay, so, you know, Virgil sees the anguish in Dante's face. And so Virgil asks, what's wrong? And Dante explains, well, because I lied to cover Conte and told him his son was dead. And Virgil is like, focus on your mission, Dante, okay? You are about to meet Beatrice. Focus on that. All right. All right. Let's go to 11, please. ### 1:00:54 seg-0106 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0106` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0106](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0106) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3654s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3654s) Conte 11. Along the upper rim of a high bank formed by a ring of massive broken boulders. We came above a crowd more cruelly pent. And here, because of the outrageous stench thrown up in excess by that deep abyss, we drew back till we were behind the lid of a great tomb on which I made out this inscribed, I hold Pope Anastasius enticed to leave the true path by Photinus. It would be better to delay descent so that our senses may grow somewhat used to this foul stench, and then we can ignore it. So said my master, and I answered him, do find some compensation. Lest this time be lost. And he, you see, I've thought of that. My son, within this ring of broken rocks, he then began, there are three smaller circles. Like those that you're leaving, they range down. Those circles are all full of cursed spirits, so that your seeing of them may suffice. ### 1:01:47 seg-0107 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0107` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0107](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0107) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3707s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3707s) Learn now the how and why of their confinement. A very malice that earns hate in heaven, injustice is the end. And each such end by force or fraud brings harm to other men. However, fraud is man's peculiarity. God finds it more displeasing, and therefore the fraudulent are lower, suffering more. ### 1:02:05 seg-0108 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0108` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0108](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0108) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3725s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3725s) Okay, so they're descending down to hell, and they will first enter the circle of violence. And there are three different types of violence, okay? Violence against others, violence against yourself, suicide, and violence against God. Okay? That's the circle of violence. And then they'll go even further down to the circle of fraud. Okay, so Virgil does this. Virgil tells Dante that fraud is worse than violence. Can someone guess why that would be the case? Why would in Dante's framework, fraud is worse than violence? Like, violence is like you kill someone, right? But what's fraud? Fraud is just you lie to someone. Why is that different? Yes? ### 1:02:51 seg-0109 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0109` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0109](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0109) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3771s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3771s) Because fraud impacts the imagination of someone. And you, like, destroy a part of their reality. For, like, to something that's not even true. So when you kill someone, they're dead. But when you, like, lie to someone, you kill their perception of reality. Which is even worse, because they can't experience life as it is. But they, like, have to live up to a lie. ### 1:03:22 seg-0110 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0110` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0110](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0110) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3802s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3802s) Exactly. That's exactly correct. Yes, okay? So did you want to add to that? Okay, all right. So again, the framework, right? Dante wants us to live a life of faith, hope, and love. But for that to happen, you have to have faith. But if people are lying to you all the time, right, or people are cheating all the time, that makes you question reality itself. That makes you question your own faith. And so that's problematic, okay? Whereas if someone does violence to you, it's like, well, you know, the guy's an asshole or whatever, okay? Okay, let's keep on going. ### 1:03:58 seg-0111 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0111` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0111](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0111) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3838s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3838s) Line 28. The violent take all of the first circle, but since one uses force against three persons, that circle's built of three divided rings. To God and to oneself and to one's neighbor, I mean to them or what is theirs, one can do violence, as you shall now hear clearly. Violent death and painful wounds may be inflicted on one's neighbor. His possessions may suffer ruin, fire, and extortion. Thus murderers and those who strike in malice, as well as plunderers and robbers, these in separated ranks, the first ring racks. A man can set violent hands against himself or his belongings, so within the second ring repents. Though uselessly, whoever would deny himself your world, gambling away, wasting his patrimony, and weeping where he should instead be happy. One can be violent against the godhead, one's heart denying and blaspheming him, and scorning nature and the good in her. So with sign, the smallest ring has sealed both Sodom and Cahors and all those who speak in passionate contempt of God. ### 1:04:58 seg-0112 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0112` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0112](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0112) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3898s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3898s) Now fraud, that eats away at every conscience, is practiced by a man against another who trusts in him, or one who has no trust. This latter way seems only to cut off the bond of love that nature forges, thus nestled within the second circle. ### 1:05:14 seg-0113 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0113` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0113](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0113) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3914s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3914s) Okay, so again, here explains it, right? The problem with fraud is it destroys people's capacity to trust. Without trust, there can be no love. Okay, that's why it's worse than violence. Okay, keep on going. ### 1:05:33 seg-0114 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0114` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0114](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0114) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3933s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3933s) Line 58. Hypocrisy and flattery, sorcerers and falsifiers, simony and theft, and barators and panders, and like trash. And in the former way of fraud, not only the love that nature forges is forgotten, but added love that builds a special trust. Thus in the tightest circle, where there is the universal center, seat of dis, all traitors are consumed eternally. Master, your reasoning is clear indeed, I said. It has made plain for me the nature of this pit and the population in it. But tell me, those the dense marsh holds, or those driven before the wind, or those on whom rain falls, or those who clash with such harsh tongues, why are they not all punished in the city of flaming red if God is angry with them? And if he's not, why then are they tormented? ### 1:06:19 seg-0115 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0115` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0115](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0115) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3979s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3979s) Okay, so the last three major circles are violence, fraud, and treachery. Why is treachery the worst possible sin? Yes? ### 1:06:39 seg-0116 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0116` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0116](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0116) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3999s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=3999s) Because society -wide, treachery will have knock -on effects because if you're a treacherous to someone else, then they're more likely to do it to someone else and destroy society. ### 1:06:49 seg-0117 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0117` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0117](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0117) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4009s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4009s) Exactly. That's the idea, right? Where love is a virtuous circle, but treachery is a vicious circle. If you're betrayed by someone else, your first instinct is you'll betray another person, right? It's a chain of events. That's why treachery is the worst possible, because it is altering the very fabric of reality itself. Okay? Fraud distorts your perception of reality. It makes you misperceive reality, but treachery makes you want to shape reality against God. And that's why it's the worst possible sin. Okay? Does that make sense? All right. Let's keep on going. ### 1:07:30 seg-0118 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0118` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0118](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0118) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4050s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4050s) Line 76. And then to me, why does your reason wander so far from its accustomed course, he said, or of what other things are you now thinking? Have you forgotten then the words of God? The words with which your ethics treats of those three dispositions that strikes at heaven's will, incontinence and malice, and mad bestiality? And how the fault that is the least condemned and least offends God is incontinence. If you consider carefully this judgment and call to mind the souls of upper hell who bear their penalties outside the city, you'll see why they have been set off from these unrighteous ones and why when heaven's vengeance hammers at them, it carries lesser anger. ### 1:08:06 seg-0119 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0119` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0119](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0119) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4086s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4086s) Okay. So, Donna is just asking, like, why is hell partitioned in this way? And Virgil says, well, because of incontinence, malice, and mad bestiality. Okay. Incontinence is basically, you're not taking yourself seriously. You lack will. Right? That's why lust and wrath and greed and gluttony are outside of the capital city. Okay. They're not that serious. You're just doing harm to yourself. Whereas, if you go into this and you see heresy and fraud it's malice to other people. Okay. That's why they have to be punished separately. Okay. Let's keep on going. ### 1:08:49 seg-0120 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0120` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0120](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0120) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4129s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4129s) 91. O son that heals all sight that is perplexed. When I ask you, your answer is so content that doubting pleases me as much as knowing. Go back a little to that point, I said, where you told me that usury offends divine goodness. Unravel now that not. Philosophy for one who understands points out, and not just in one place, he said, how nature follows. As she takes her course, the divine intellect and divine art, if you read your, and if you read your physics carefully, not many pages from the start, you'll see that when it can, your art will follow nature. Just as a pupil imitates his master so that your art is almost God's grandchild. From these two art and nature it is fitting if you recall how Genesis begins for men to make their way to gain their living and since the user prefers another pathway, he scorns both nature and herself and art, her follower. ### 1:09:39 seg-0121 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0121` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0121](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0121) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4179s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4179s) His hope is elsewhere. But follow me, for it is time to move. The fish is glitter now on the horizon, all the weight is spread out over chorus. Only beyond can one climb down the cliff. ### 1:09:52 seg-0122 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0122` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0122](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0122) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4192s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4192s) Why are money lenders punished? Why are usurers punished? Why are bankers punished? And Dante comes from a banking family, by the way, right? His father was a money lender. Why are, ### 1:10:07 seg-0123 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0123` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0123](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0123) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4207s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4207s) what's the problem with usurers? Yes. Maybe because fraud, because, the banker always keep telling lies. No, no. It's not fraud. It's something else. What is it? ### 1:10:16 seg-0124 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0124` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0124](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0124) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4216s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4216s) I think in the Bible, it was a sin to lend money and everything because it doesn't produce any actual good. It's like using money to make money. So you don't actually pay or work hard, you know, to earn your money. ### 1:10:28 seg-0125 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0125` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0125](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0125) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4228s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4228s) Right. Exactly. Okay. So do you understand this idea, right? Faith, hope, and love is that you are part of the creation process. You are a co -creator of God. But with money lending, you're charging interest. So you are basically exploiting other people's capacity to co -create with God. You're not doing anything. You're just charging interest. Does that make sense? That, did, yes? So I, ### 1:10:52 seg-0126 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0126` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0126](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0126) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4252s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4252s) I, my initial guess was that it was related to like, the Jewish ability to lend money where the Christian had a prohibition against it. But I, you just said that Dante's family were money lenders. So can you reconcile the difference that Dante is now committing his father to hell, essentially? ### 1:11:11 seg-0127 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0127` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0127](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0127) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4271s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4271s) Um, yeah. So this is like really interesting. Okay. But if you contrast, uh, if you just look at everyone from Donnie's life, okay, the vast majority of them are actually in hell. Okay. Some of them purgatory. This is exactly one, his great grandfather who is in heaven. And that's a great thing about Dante, right? He's like, don't think about family. Don't think about friends. Think about God's justice. Think about what God's will is. He's like, think about things objectively. If you can go beyond faction, if you can go, can go beyond family, then God's reasoning will make sense to you. Yes. ### 1:11:53 seg-0128 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0128` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0128](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0128) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4313s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4313s) I think that's what Jesus also preached him. Exactly. He told all his disciples that they should all leave their families behind and start a new life where they are not bound to their. Yeah. ### 1:12:07 seg-0129 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0129` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0129](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0129) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4327s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4327s) Right. And like, if you think about it, the greatest act of faith, hope, and love at this time in history is to leave your family behind. Right? Because like at this time, the only thing you can depend on is your family. Right? So, so, so what both Jesus and Donna are saying is live a life of justice and God will support you. Okay. And that's a life of faith, love, and hope. Okay. All right. All right. Let's, let's keep on going. ### 1:12:45 seg-0130 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0130` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0130](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0130) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4365s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4365s) Counter 12, the place that we had reached for our descent along the bank was Alpine. What reclined upon that bank would too repel all eyes. Just like the toppled mass of rock that struck because of earthquake or eroded props, the adige on its flank, this side of Trent, where from the mountain top from which it thrusts down to the plain, the rock is shattered so that it permits a path for those above. Such was the passage down to that ravine and the edge of above the cracked abyss. There lay outstretched the infamy of Crete, conceived within the counterfeited cow, and catching sight of us, he bit himself like one whom fury devastates within. Turning to him, my sage cried out, perhaps you think this is the Duke of Athens here, who in the world above brought you, oh, your death. Be off, you beast. This man who comes has not been tutored by your sister. ### 1:13:39 seg-0131 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0131` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0131](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0131) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4419s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4419s) All he wants is coming here is to observe your torment. ### 1:13:42 seg-0132 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0132` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0132](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0132) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4422s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4422s) So this is the, the monitor. And of course the person who kills the monitor is Theseus, who becomes the first King of Athens. Okay. Um, that, that's just a mythological reference. Uh, that's just a matter for the story. Keep, keep on going. ### 1:13:55 seg-0133 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0133` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0133](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0133) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4435s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4435s) Line 22. Just as the bull that breaks loose from its halter the moment it receives the fatal stroke, and cannot run but plunges back and forth, so did I see the minotaur respond, and my alert guide cried, run toward the pass, it's better to descend while he's berserk. And so we made our way across that heap of stones which often moved beneath my feet, because my weight was somewhat strange for them. While climbing down, I thought, he said, you wonder perhaps about that fallen mass washed over by the inhuman rage I have just quenched. Now I would have you know the other time that as I descended into lower hell, this mass of boulders had not yet collapsed. But if I reason rightly, it was just before the coming of the One, who took from this the highest circle of splendid spoils, that on all sides the steep and filthy valley had trembled so. I ### 1:14:43 seg-0134 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0134` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0134](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0134) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4483s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4483s) thought the universe felt love, by which as some believe the world has often been converted into chaos. And at that moment here as well as elsewhere, these ancient boulders toppled in this way. But fix your eyes below upon the valley, for now we're near the stream of blood, where those who injure others violently boil. O blind cupidity and insane anger, which goad us on so much in our short life, and steep us in such grief eternally. I saw a broad ditch bent into an arc, so that it could embrace all of that plain, precisely as my guide had said before. Between it and the base of the embankment raised files of centaurs, who were armed with arrows, as in that world above they used to hunt. Unseen, seeing us descend, they all reined in, and after they had chosen boughs and shafts, three of their number moved out from their ranks. And still far off, one cried, What punishment do you approach as you descend the slope, but speak from here? ### 1:15:37 seg-0135 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0135` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0135](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0135) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4537s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4537s) If not, I draw my bow. My master told him, We shall make reply only to Chiron. When we reach his side, your hasty will has never served you well. Then he nudged me and said, That one is Nessus, who died because of lovely Deonira, and of himself wrought vengeance for himself. In the middle, gazing at his chest, is mighty Chiron, tutor of Achilles. The third is Pholas, he who was so frenzied. And many thousands wheeled around the moat, their arrows aimed at any soul that thrusts above the blood more than its guilt allots. By now we had drawn near those agile beasts. Chiron drew out an arrow. With a notch, he parted his beard back upon his jaws. When he'd uncovered his enormous mouth, he said to his companions, Have you noticed how he who walks behind moves what he touches? ### 1:16:27 seg-0136 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0136` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0136](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0136) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4587s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4587s) Dead souls are not accustomed to do that. And my good guide, now near the centaur's chest, the place where his two natures met, replied, He's indeed alive, and so alone it falls to me to show him the dark valley. Necessity has brought him here, not pleasure. For she who gave me this new task was one who had just come from singing hallelujah. He's no robber, I'm not a thief. But by the power that permits me, it permits my steps to journey on so wild a path. Give us one of your band to serve as our companion, and let him show us where to ford the ditch. And let him bear this man upon his back, for he's no spirit who can fly through air. Then Chiron wheeled about and right and said to Nessus, Then return and be their guide. If other troops disturb you, fend them off. Now with our faithful escort, ### 1:17:15 seg-0137 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0137` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0137](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0137) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4635s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4635s) we advanced along the blood -red boiling ditch's banks, beside the piercing cries of those who boiled. I saw some who were sunk up to their brows, and that huge centaur said, These are the tyrants who plunged their hands in blood and thundering. Here they lament their ruthless crimes. Here are both Alexander and the fierce Dionysus, who brought such years of grief to Sicily. That brow with hair so black is Asselino. That other there, the blond one, is Obispo of Este. He who is indeed undone, who is in the world above by his fierce son. ### 1:17:48 seg-0138 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0138` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0138](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0138) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4668s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4668s) Okay, alright. So they are in the first, um, place of violence. And these, these are people who commit violence against others. And for their, and so for their sin, what's happening is that they're, they're, they are drowning in a boiling, uh, lake. Okay? And if they ever try to get out of it, centaurs come and shoot arrows at them. Okay? That's, that's what they've done to other people. Okay? Now, inside this, uh, boiling lake is Alexander the Great. What's problematic about this? Why, why, why would this be paradoxical? What's the paradox here? When you think of Alexander the Great, who else do you think of? ### 1:18:34 seg-0139 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0139` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0139](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0139) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4714s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4714s) Genghis Khan. ### 1:18:35 seg-0140 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0140` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0140](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0140) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4715s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4715s) Genghis Khan. Who else? ### 1:18:38 seg-0141 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0141` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0141](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0141) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4718s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4718s) Napoleon. ### 1:18:39 seg-0142 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0142` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0142](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0142) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4719s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4719s) Napoleon. Who else? Hitler. Hitler. Okay, guys, guys, this is year 1300, okay? So let's not go too far. They don't even know who Genghis Khan is at, at this time, okay? But I'm saying like in year 1300, if you think of Alexander the Great, who do you think of? Caesar. Julius Caesar, right? Where's Julius Caesar? He's in limbo. I don't understand what's going on here. Why is Alexander the Great in the circle of violence, but Julius Caesar is in limbo? They did the same thing, right? They're both great conquerors. They killed a lot of people for their own personal glory. Why would Alexander the Great be in here, the circle of violence, and Julius Caesar is like in limbo? Why would that happen? ### 1:19:22 seg-0143 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0143` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0143](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0143) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4762s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4762s) Yes? I mean, my guess is, like, if Dante has Virgil as this guy, it, Virgil cannot, like, see Caesar in heaven, because Virgil was appointed by Augustus, the adopted son of Julius Caesar, to ride the Inuit, right? So, like, if he, like, sees Julius Caesar in, in the, like, one of the worst circles, then that'd be, like, pretty problematic. ### 1:19:49 seg-0144 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0144` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0144](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0144) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4789s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4789s) Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Right? Because if Virgil is the great poet, and we will learn in paradise that the Roman Empire is what gives rise to a Catholic church, and is part of God's will, yeah, then it makes sense to put Julius Caesar in limbo. But this raises another question. Where's Augustus Caesar? Okay. We'll, we'll, we'll ask ChachiBT. Let's, let's ask, let's ask ChachiBT. All right. Just, just, just, just, just, just, just Google this. Like, where is Augustus Caesar in the Divine Comedy? Oh, okay. Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar. I would think Augustus Caesar, because Augustus Caesar is the one who, who, who created the Roman Empire, right? Which then becomes a Catholic church. So where should he be? At least purgatory, at least limbo, possibly even, even paradise, right? But let's, let's figure this out, okay? Again, logically speaking, we just extend the, extend your logic, right? He should be somewhere nice, whether it's limbo, or purgatory, or even paradise. ### 1:21:14 seg-0145 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0145` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0145](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0145) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4874s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4874s) Where, where, but where is Augustus Caesar located in the Divine Comedy? Does he appear? Augustus Caesar is one of the most important historical figures, right? The greatest emperor of Rome, the man who created the Roman Empire. Where is he? Where is he? ### 1:22:07 seg-0146 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0146` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0146](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0146) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4927s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4927s) I think he's in limbo. ### 1:22:09 seg-0147 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0147` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0147](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0147) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4929s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4929s) No, no, no, no, no. I'm asking you where in the Divine Comedy is. If we're looking for Divine Comedy, where can we find Augustus Caesar? ### 1:22:16 seg-0148 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0148` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0148](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0148) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4936s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4936s) Uh, in, uh, uh, Canto 1, I think. ### 1:22:19 seg-0149 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0149` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0149](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0149) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4939s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=4939s) Does, um, no, I'm saying physically. Like, where, where is he situated? Where, where does it say purgatory? Where, we see Julius Caesar in limbo. We know he's there. We see Socrates in limbo. We know he's there. We see Alexander the Great being burned alive in the circle of violence. We know he is there, but where is Augustus Caesar physically in Divine Comedy? He's nowhere, guys. He does not exist physically in the Divine Comedy, but he does, he is referenced in the Divine Comedy by who? Virgil is what keeps the memory of Augustus Caesar alive, but Augustus Caesar has disappeared, right? So this is a huge problem. We know Alexander the Great because, uh, it's written here. He is burned in the circle of violence. We know Julius Caesar is in limbo. We don't know where Augustus Caesar is. And the only time Augustus Caesar is mentioned, it's because Virgil speaks him out, right? It's only Virgil that's keeping, keeping alive the memory of Augustus Caesar. ### 1:23:47 seg-0150 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0150` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0150](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0150) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5027s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5027s) This is very confusing, right? Okay. So again, it's meant, so the subversive comedy, first and foremost, it's meant to be subversive. It's meant to undermine our traditional understanding of things. Okay. So do you think, how do you think Donny feels about Augustus Caesar? Well, just, can, can you explain? ### 1:24:20 seg-0151 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0151` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0151](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0151) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5060s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5060s) Conflicted. The only reason I can think of that he's not there, other than when Virgil mentions him, is Dante cannot decide where to place him. ### 1:24:34 seg-0152 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0152` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0152](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0152) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5074s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5074s) Yes. I mean, during Augustus, Jesus was killed. Yes. ### 1:24:40 seg-0153 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0153` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0153](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0153) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5080s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5080s) No, it was not Augustus, it was Tiberius. Oh, was it not Tiberius? ### 1:24:45 seg-0155 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0155` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0155](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0155) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5085s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5085s) Yeah, it was Tiberius. Oh, okay, Tiberius. ### 1:24:47 seg-0157 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0157` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0157](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0157) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5087s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5087s) Yeah, but, but it was during Augustus that Caesar, that Jesus was born, right? And what the Catholic church teaches you is that without the, without Augustus, um, didn't, Jesus could not have been born and the way it could have been paid for the, for Christianity to arise. Okay. So Jesus was killed during Tiberius. Jesus was killed during Tiberius and, um, Jesus was born during Augustus. Okay. ### 1:25:18 seg-0158 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0158` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0158](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0158) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5118s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5118s) Yes. I think like Dante naturally don't like, uh, Augustus cause it's, uh, cause Augustus is the one who ordered Virgil to write the Aeneid, right? And it's also Augustus the one who promotes piety, which is what Dante like disagree with. Right. ### 1:25:37 seg-0159 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0159` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0159](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0159) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5137s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5137s) So, so the greatest, um, act of faith, love, and hope is poetry, right? Virgil is a divine prop, prophet, divine poet. That's how he's able to do this because God willed it. So Augustus Caesar, what he did was he took this gift of poetry, which is divine. He corrupted it to serve the ends of empire. And that's why Augustus is not mentioned, or sorry, he's not, he's mentioned, but he's not, he's not given a place in divine comedy because what Dante has done is he has, he has, he has basically cast him to a place worse than hell. Which is annihilation. Okay. He is beyond the universe. God has forgotten him. God has cast him away from this universe. There can be absolutely no redemption for him. Okay. God wants to forget about him because his crime was so great. It is the greatest crime in the world to try to corrupt the message of God, to serve your own political ends. ### 1:26:53 seg-0160 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0160` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0160](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0160) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5213s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5213s) Does that make sense guys? Because like, again, you have to explain to me where Augustus is. He's not in divine comedy. And he is one of the most important historical figures ever in history. Yes. ### 1:27:07 seg-0161 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0161` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0161](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0161) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5227s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5227s) But isn't Virgil then like a, I mean, he's part of this, right? Because he wrote it down. Like he could refuse to write down this poetry that goes against God. So, I mean, right. And that's why Virgil is in hell, right? ### 1:27:22 seg-0162 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0162` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0162](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0162) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5242s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5242s) But he's only in limbo. Um, right. But he, he's still, he's still in, in, in hell. Right. Okay. And, and also like, remember what Don is trying to do is he's trying to awaken the reader. You understand? Because at this time in history, everyone is reading, uh, the Inead. Everyone loves the Inead because, you know, you're sort of forced to love the Inead. And so he needs to take people away from the Inead. It has to be a process of slow discovery. Right. Okay. An epiphany where Virgil is probably the villain here. Okay. And, and as we go on, we'll, we'll recognize this, but not at this stage. Okay. Does that make sense? It's a journey. Okay. It's not only journey from sin into virtue, but it's also our journey from ignorant, from the darkness into the light. Okay. All right. Does it make sense guys? All right. Let, let, let's, let's keep on going. ### 1:28:21 seg-0163 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0163` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0163](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0163) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5301s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5301s) Line 115. A little farther on, the centaur stopped above a group that seemed to rise above them. And he saw the boiling blood as far up as their throats. He pointed out one shade alone apart and said, within God's bosom, he impaled the heart that still drips blood upon the Thames. Then I got caught sight of some who kept their heads and even their full chest above the tide. Among them, many whom I recognized. And so the blood brew always sat shallower until it only scorched the feet. And he, here we found a place where we could forge a ditch, poured a ditch, the ditch. Just as you see that on this side, the broke continually thins, the scourge continually thins, and the centaur said, so I should have you know the rivulet. Along the other side will slowly deepen its bed until it reaches once again the depth where tyranny must make lament. And ### 1:29:07 seg-0164 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0164` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0164](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0164) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5347s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5347s) there divine justice torments Attila, he who was such a scourge upon the earth, and Pyrrhus sextus to eternity. It melts the tears that boiling broken locks from Rainier of Cornetto, Rainier of Pozzo, those two who waged such war upon the high roads. Then he turned around and crossed the fort again. ### 1:29:26 seg-0165 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0165` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0165](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0165) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5366s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5366s) Okay. All right. ### 1:29:41 seg-0166 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0166` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0166](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0166) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5381s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5381s) Conto 13. Nessus had not yet reached the other bank when we began to make our way across a wood on which no path had left its mark. No green leaves in that forest, only black. No branches straight and smooth, but not at gnarled. No fruits were there, but brewers bearing poison. Even those savage beasts that roam between Cecina and Cornetto, beasts that hate tilled lands, do not have faults so harsh and dense. This is the nesting place of the foul harpies who chase the Trojans from the Strupefates with sad foretelling of their future trials. Their wings are wide, their necks and faces human, their feet are taloned, their great bellies feathered. They utter their laments on the strange trees. And my kind master then instructed me, before you enter farther, know that now you're within the second ring and shall be here until you reach the horrid sand. Therefore look carefully. You'll see such things as would deprive my speech of all belief. ### 1:30:41 seg-0167 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0167` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0167](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0167) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5441s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5441s) From every side I heard the sound of cries, but I could not see any source for them, so that in my bewilderment I stopped. I think that he was thinking that I thought so many voices moaned among those trunks from people who had been concealed from us. Therefore my master said, if you would tear a little twig from many of these plants, the thoughts you have will also be cut off. Then I stretched out my hand a little way, and from a great thorn bush snapped off a branch at which its trunk cried out, why do you tear me? And then, when it had grown more dark with blood, it asked again, why do you break me off? Are you without all sentiment of pity? We once were men and now are arid stumps. Your hand might well have shown us greater mercy, had we been nothing more than souls of serpents. ### 1:31:26 seg-0168 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0168` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0168](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0168) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5486s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5486s) As from a sapling log that catches fire along one of its ends, while at the other it drips and hisses with escaping vapor, so from that broken stump issued together both words and blood, at which I let the branch fall, and I stood like one who's afraid. My sage said, winded soul, if earlier he had been able to believe what he had only glimpsed within my poetry, then he would not have set his hand against you. But its incredibility made me urge him to do a deed that grieves me deeply. But tell me who you were, so that he may, to make amends, refresh your fame within the world above, where he can still return. To which the trunk, your sweet speech draws me so that I cannot be still and may not oppress you if I linger now and talk. I am the one who guarded both the keys ### 1:32:12 seg-0169 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0169` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0169](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0169) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5532s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5532s) of Frederick's heart and turned them, locking and unlocking them with such dexterity that none but I could share his confidence. And I was faithful to my splendid office, so faithful that I lost both sleep and strength. The whore who never turned her harlot's eyes away from Caesar's dwelling, she who is the death of all and vice of every court, inflamed the minds of everyone against me, and those inflamed, then so inflamed, Augustine, that my delight, honors turned to sadness. My mind, because of its disdainful temper, believing it could flee disdain through death, made me unjust against my own just self. I swear to you, by the peculiar roots of this thorn bush, I never broke my faith with him who was so worthy with my lord. If one of you returns into the world, then let him help my memory, which still lies prone beneath the battering of envy. ### 1:33:05 seg-0170 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0170` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0170](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0170) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5585s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5585s) Okay, so now we are in a forest, and these are people who have killed themselves. They commit suicide. They've committed no other sin but suicide, okay? And what's happened is they've been transformed into trees. So they don't take their bodies seriously, so now their bodies are now just trees. And what happens is that the harpies come and eat the berries that they grow, okay? They feel this eternal torment. And then Donny talks to one of these trees, and this person is a person that Donny knows as well, and he's a historical character, and he was a counselor to a king who was accused of treason, he was virtuous, he was talented, but once he was accused of treason, he was innocent of treason, but he killed himself in despair, okay? Why would this be a problem? Why would this be a sin? Why is suicide a sin? Yes? ### 1:34:04 seg-0171 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0171` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0171](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0171) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5644s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5644s) So firstly, you're abandoning all of faith, hope, and love. And secondly, similarly to treachery, I think society -wide, it damages other people and could therefore affect other people's potential to love and connect in the future. ### 1:34:20 seg-0172 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0172` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0172](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0172) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5660s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5660s) Exactly. That's exactly correct. Yes, first of all, you are supposed to live a life of faith, hope, and love, and this is the opposite, right? Where you just don't believe in God anymore. It's basically rejecting God and says, you know, like, this is so hopeless, even God can't save me, okay? The other thing is, like, you become a bad role model to other people as well. You show that you, who is a very virtuous, talented person, you of all people should have faith, hope, and love, and by abandoning yourself, you abandon God and you abandon society as well, okay? All right, so thank you. Excellent. All right, let's keep on going. ### 1:34:59 seg-0173 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0173` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0173](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0173) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5699s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5699s) My mind, because of its disdainful temper, believing it could flee disdain through death, made me unjust against my own just self. I swear to you, by the peculiar roots of this thorn bush, I never broke my faith with him who was so worthy with my Lord. If one of you returns into the world, then let him help my memory, which still lies prone beneath the battering of envy. The poet waited briefly, then he said to me, since he's silent, do not lose this chance, but speak and ask what you would know. And I, do you continue, ask of him whatever you believe I should request? I cannot, so much pity takes my heart. Then he began again, in prison spirit, so may this man do freely what you ask. May it please you to tell us something more of how the soul is bound into these knots, and tell us if you can, if anyone can ever find his freedom from these limbs. ### 1:35:46 seg-0174 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0174` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0174](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0174) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5746s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5746s) At this, the trunk breathed violence. Then that wind became this voice. Ye shall be answered promptly when the savage spirit quits the body from which it has torn itself. Then Minos sends it to the seventh maw. It falls into the wood, and there's no place to which it is allotted. But wherever fortune has swung, that soul that is the space where, even as a grain of spelt, it sprouts. It rises as a sapling, a wild plant, and then the harpies feeding on its leaves cause pain, and for that pain provide a vent. Like other souls, we shall seek out the flesh that we have left, but none of us shall wear it. It is not right for any man to have what he himself has cast aside. We'll drag our bodies here. They'll hang in this sad wood, each on the stump of its vindictive shade. And ### 1:36:31 seg-0175 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0175` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0175](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0175) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5791s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5791s) we were still intent upon the trunk, believing it had wanted to say more when we were overtaken by a roar. Just as the hunter is aware of chase and bore, as they draw near his post, he hears the beast, and then the branches as they crack. And there upon the left were two who, scratched and naked, fled so violently that they tore away each forest bough they passed. The one in front, now come, death, quickly come, the other shade, who thought himself as though was shouting after him. Lano, your legs were not so nimble at the joust of Toppo. And then, perhaps because he'd lost his breath, he fell into one tangle with the bush. Behind these two, black bitches filled the wood, and they were just as eager and as swift as grey hounds that have been let off their leash. They set their teeth in him where he had crouched, and piece by piece those dogs dismembered him and carried off his miserable limbs. ### 1:37:19 seg-0176 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0176` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0176](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0176) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5839s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5839s) Then he who was my escort took my hand. He led me to the lacerated thorn that wept in vain where it was bleeding, broken. Oh, Jacopo, it said, the Santo Andrea, what have you gained by using me as screen? Am I to blame for your indecent life? When my good master stood beside that bush, he said, who are you who through many wounds must breathe with blood your melancholy words? And he to us, of spirits who have come to witness the outrageous laceration that leaves so many of my branches torn? Collect them at the foot of this sad thorn. My home was in the city whose first patron gave way to John the Baptist. For this reason, he'll always use his art to make it sorrow. And if along the crossing of the Arno some effigy of Mars had not remained, the citizens who ### 1:38:07 seg-0177 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0177` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0177](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0177) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5887s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5887s) afterward rebuilt their city on the ashes that Tila had left to them would have travailed in vain. I made of my own house my gallows place. ### 1:38:16 seg-0178 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0178` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0178](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0178) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5896s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5896s) Okay, let's move on to counter 14. I'm sorry if I'm going too fast, okay? But again, we're trying to finish the line of comedy and we're trying to develop the major themes of it, okay? So the next few cantos are extremely important. And here again, we're trying to figure out what is wrong with Florence, okay? ### 1:38:37 seg-0179 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0179` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0179](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0179) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5917s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5917s) Canto 14. Loaf of our native city overcame me. I gathered up the scattered boughs and gave them back to him whose voice was spent already. From there we reached the boundary that devised and from the third ring and the site of a dread work that justice had devised. To make these strange things clear, I must explain that we had come upon an open plain that banished all green things from its bed. The wood of sorrow is a garland around it just as that wood is ringed by a sad channel. Here at the very edge we stayed our step. The ground was made of sand, dry and compact, a sand not different in kind from that on which the feet of Cato had once tramped. O vengeance of the Lord, how you should be dreaded by everyone who now can read whatever was made manifest to me. I saw so many flocks of naked souls all weeping miserably and it seemed that they were ruled by different decrees. ### 1:39:26 seg-0180 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0180` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0180](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0180) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5966s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=5966s) Some lay upon the ground flat on their backs, some huddled in a crouch and there they sat and others moved about incessantly. The largest group was those who walked about, the smallest those who pined in punishment but these had looser tongues to tell their torment. Above that plain of sand, distended flakes of fire showered down, their fall was slow, as snow descends on alps when no wind blows. Just like the flames that Alexander saw in India's hot zones were when fires fell intact into the ground. On his battalions for which wisely he had the soldiers tramped the soil to see that every fire was bent before new flames were added to the old. So did the never -ending heat descend. With this the sand was kindled just as tinder on meeting flint will flame, doubling the pain. The dance of wretched hands was never done. ### 1:40:15 seg-0181 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0181` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0181](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0181) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6015s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6015s) Now here, now there they tried to beat aside the fresh flames as they fell. And they began to speak. My master, you who can defeat all things except for those tenacious demons who tried to block us at the entryway. Who's that giant there who does not seem to heed singeing? He who lies in scorns and scowls, he whom the rains can't seem to soften. And he himself, on noticing that I was querying my guide about him, cried, that which I was in life I am in death. Through Hove, where out the smith from whom he took in wrath the keen -edged thunderbolt with which on my last day I was to be transfixed. And if he tire the others one by one in Mongibello at the sooty forge while bellowing, O help, good Vulcan, help, just as he did when there was war at Phlegra, and cast his shafts at me with all his force, not even then would he have happy vengeance. ### 1:41:09 seg-0182 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0182` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0182](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0182) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6069s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6069s) Then did my guide speak with such vehemence that I had never heard him use before. O Copenius, for your arrogance that is not quenched, you're punished all the more. No torture other than your own master. Madness could offer pain enough to match your wrath. But then with gentler face he turned to me and said, that man was one of seven kings besieging Thebes. He held and still, it seems holds, God in great disdain, despising him. But as I told him now, his malediction stood well as ornaments upon his chest. And now follow me and take care. Do not set your feet upon the sand that's burning hot, but always keep them back close to the forest. In silence we had reached a place where flowed a slender water course out of the wood, a stream whose redness makes me shudder still, as from bullet came ### 1:41:57 seg-0183 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0183` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0183](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0183) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6117s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6117s) pours a brook whose waters then are shared by prostitutes, so did the stream run down across the sand. Its bed and both its banks were made of stone, together with the slopes along its shores, so that I saw a passageway lay there. Among all other things that I have shown you since we first made our way across the gate, whose threshold is forbidden to no one, no thing has yet been witnessed by your eyes as notable as this bridge. It is the bridge where I had revealed it, which quenches every flame that burns above it. These words were spoken by my guide. At this I begged him to bestow the food for which he had already given me the craving. A devastated land lies in mid -sea, a land that is called Crete, he answered me. Under its king the world once lived chastely. Within that land there was a mountain blessed with leaves and waters, and they called it Ida. ### 1:42:45 seg-0184 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0184` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0184](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0184) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6165s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6165s) But it is withered now, like some old thing. It once was chosen as a trusted cradle for Rhea, for her son. To hide him better, when he cried out, she had her servant's clamor. Within the mountain is a huge old man, who stands erect, his back turned to Wad Damietta, and looks at Rome as if it were his mirror. The old man's head is fashioned to find gold. The purest silver forms his arms and chest, but he is made of brass down to the cleft. Below that point he is of choicest iron except for his right foot, made of baked clay, and he rests more on this than on the left. Each part of him except the gold is cracked, and down that fissure there are tears that drip. When gathered, they pierce through that cavern's floor, and crossing rocks into this valley, from Akron and Styx to Phlegthon. ### 1:43:35 seg-0185 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0185` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0185](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0185) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6215s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6215s) And then they make their way down this tight channel. And at the point past which there is no descent, they form Cocytus. Since you are to see what that pool is, I will not describe it here. And I asked him, but if the rivulet must follow such a course down from our world, why can we see it only at its boundary? And he to me, you know this place is round, and though the way that you have come is long, and always toward the left and toward the bottom, you still have not completed all the circles, so that if something new appears to us, it need not bring such wonder to your fates. And I again, Master, where is Phlegthon and where is Leith? You omit the second, and say this rain of tears has formed the first. I am pleased indeed, he said, with all your questions, yet one of them might well have found its answer already, when you saw the red stream boiling. ### 1:44:27 seg-0186 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0186` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0186](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0186) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6267s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6267s) You shall see Leith. But past this abyss, there where the spirits go to cleanse themselves, where their repentant guilt is set aside. Then he declared, The time has come to quit this wood. See that you follow close behind me. These margins form a path that does not scorch, and over them all flaming vapour is quenched. ### 1:44:47 seg-0187 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0187` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0187](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0187) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6287s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6287s) Okay, alright, so two comments, okay. The first comment is that clearly the geography of hell really matters, okay. If Donnie is going to spend a lot of time describing how these rivers flow, how hell is constructed the way it is, then it clearly matters. But again, I don't have the knowledge of the occult, of rituals, of magic to fully appreciate why this matters, okay. Clearly, if you visualize this, there is symbology at work, right. At this time in history, it's very common for people to engage in magic, basically using symbols, using chants, using rituals in order to summon angels, to summon demons. And if you were to, again, draw this out, if you were actually to act this out, then that gives you insight into how these things work. But again, I'm not, I don't have any expertise in symbology, in the occult, in magic. I don't have enough to comment, okay. ### 1:45:52 seg-0188 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0188` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0188](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0188) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6352s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6352s) So if you really want to understand Dante, then you need to do a lot more research into the occult. That's point one. Point two is, what is strange about this canto is, for the first time, we are meeting a non -human who is being punished, right. Throughout the Inferno, we met humans, and they could be mythological or real, but they're being punished. And for the first time, we are meeting a non -human, a giant who's being punished. And what is his reaction to being punished? And in this, it's violence against God, everyone's running, there's like fire and brimstone being held, being rained down on them, okay. So they're trying to dodge all these missiles. And how does this giant feel about all this? Anyone? What is his reaction? ### 1:46:46 seg-0189 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0189` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0189](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0189) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6406s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6406s) He's crying. ### 1:46:47 seg-0190 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0190` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0190](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0190) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6407s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6407s) He's not crying. ### 1:46:50 seg-0191 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0191` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0191](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0191) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6410s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6410s) He's happy, right? Or rather, he's trying to appear chill. ### 1:46:54 seg-0192 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0192` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0192](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0192) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6414s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6414s) Yeah, he doesn't care, right? So what's the message here? You have a giant who's like, ah, whatever, man. Like missiles are being rained on me, I don't care. Who cares? And the others are like dodging, the humans are dodging or running away. What's going on here? And again, this is the only time when we have a non -human being punished. And the entire scene is like, this is complete apathy. And Virgil says, oh, you're so arrogant. What's the message here? Yes? ### 1:47:43 seg-0193 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0193` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0193](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0193) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6463s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6463s) I just guess, maybe the great men, they want the people to care about them, but don't do not care about him. It means that they're nothing. So maybe this is quite punishment for those great guys who think they're great, but actually they're not. ### 1:47:59 seg-0194 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0194` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0194](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0194) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6479s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6479s) Yes, yes. Maybe because hell, should only impact humans, you know, because the human is seen, Dante sees the human as the middle of the universe, basically. Yeah. So God doesn't really care about giants. He cares about humans more. ### 1:48:22 seg-0195 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0195` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0195](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0195) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6502s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6502s) So what is the function of hell? Why does hell exist? ### 1:48:25 seg-0196 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0196` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0196](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0196) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6505s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6505s) To force reflection? ### 1:48:31 seg-0197 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0197` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0197](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0197) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6511s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6511s) Yes. Okay. So what's going on here is, if you just, analyze the text, what it's suggesting is that only we humans can be punished because only we humans can create our own path to redemption. Does that make sense? The giant will not be redeemed. He doesn't really care, right? But we are being punished because at the very heart of who we are, we are divine spark that can never be extinguished. So even though it feels hopeless, even though you give up hope, there's still that spark in you. And that's why you're being punished, to force reflection, to force you to recognize divine spark in you. And that's why the punishments are constructed the way they are, to show you what your sin has caused, to show you, to visualize the sin for you, okay? All right. And again, when Virgil talks to these people, what they always say is, talk to Dante so that he will write about you so that he will be remembered, okay? ### 1:49:38 seg-0198 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0198` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0198](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0198) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6578s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6578s) And so even though you think you are in hell, remember, there are still people who remember who you are, and that is your path to redemption, right? The fact that regardless of how low you've sunk, remember, there are still people who remember you. There are still people who love you. And once you believe that, that is your path to redemption and salvation, okay? So for Dante, what's really important to understand is that we are our own redemption and salvation, okay? Any more? Any questions or comments? All right. Let's move on, okay? This is Canto 15 of Inferno. ### 1:50:29 seg-0199 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0199` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0199](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0199) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6629s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6629s) Canto 15. Now one of the hard borders bears us forward. The river mist forms shadows overhead and shields the shores in water from the fire. Just as between Wisun and Bruges, the Flemings, in terror of the tide that floods toward them, have built a wall of dikes to daunt the sea. And as the Paduans along the Brenta build bulwarks to defend their towns and castles before the Doctides fall on Carantana. Just so were these embankments, even though they were not built so high and not so broad, whoever was the artisan who made them. ### 1:51:02 seg-0200 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0200` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0200](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0200) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6662s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6662s) Okay, so here in these lines, what Dante's revealing is that the geography of hell matches that of the geography of Italy, okay? Right? So this is clearly, he's trying to say that this hell that I am describing to you, I'm actually describing Italy at this point in history, okay? Keep on going. ### 1:51:29 seg-0201 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0201` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0201](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0201) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6689s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6689s) By now we were so distant from the wood that I should not have made out where it was, not even if I turned around to look, when we came on a company of spirits who made their way along the bank, and each stared steadily at us as in the dusk. Beneath the new moon men look at each other. They knit their brows and squinted at us just as an old tailor at his needle's eye. And when that family looked harder, I was recognized by one who took me by the hem and cried out, this is marvelous. That spirit having stretched his arm toward me, I fixed my eyes upon his baked brown features so that the scorching of his face could not prevent my mind from recognizing him. And lowering my face to meet his face, I answered him, are you here, Ser Brunetto? And he, my son, do not mind if Brunetto, Latino, lingers for a while with you and lets the file he's with pass on ahead. ### 1:52:19 seg-0202 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0202` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0202](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0202) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6739s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6739s) Okay. ### 1:52:19 seg-0203 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0203` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0203](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0203) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6739s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6739s) Okay. Okay. So this is a very important passage in the vine column. Okay. So let me explain what's going on. They are in the circle of violence. And these are, this is like the worst people. These are people who've committed violence against God and nature. Okay. And so the main crime is homosexuality, basically, salami. And Ser Brunetto is very important because he's essentially Dante's teacher and father. Okay. This is a person that is dear to Dante's heart. Only Beatrice is actually more dear to Dante than Ser Brunetto. And you can see in their words how affectionate they are towards each other. So Ser Brunetto, he is a homosexual. He's condemned to the circle and he's running with other homosexuals in the circle. And the thing is, if you stop, if you ever lie down and you rest, you're condemned even more. Okay. So what he's saying is like, Dante, I love you so much. I'm going to stop and be punished even more so that I can talk to you. ### 1:53:29 seg-0204 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0204` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0204](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0204) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6809s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6809s) All right. So this is showing the affection between Ser Brunetto and Dante. But this raises a really huge problem for us. Does Dante really think homosexuality is a problem? It's a sin? Right? This is, does Dante really believe this? So again, this is Ser Brunetto, the person that Dante loves like a father and Ser Brunetto loves him like a son. And they've always been very close. And you would imagine that Dante would put him in either purgatory or in paradise. And he doesn't do that. He puts him in inferno. But not only that, but he puts, but Ser Brunetto, was a virtuous person who really only, who only did one thing, which is like, he was a homosexual. That was it. Okay. That was the extent of his sin. And for that, and for that only, he's condemned to run around with other homosexuals for all eternity. ### 1:54:46 seg-0205 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0205` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0205](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0205) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6886s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6886s) Okay. This is a huge paradox. Yes. ### 1:54:52 seg-0206 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0206` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0206](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0206) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6892s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6892s) I think it's because homosexuality cannot bear children. And so in that sense, you don't have the hope for the future because you don't have a future generation to remember you or to contribute to the creation of God. And so that's why sodomy is such a big sin. ### 1:55:09 seg-0207 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0207` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0207](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0207) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6909s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6909s) Okay. And so how, how would you compensate for that? What did he do to compensate for the fact that they didn't have children? What did he do to show that he had faith, hope, and love? Yes. Through education. Excuse me? Through education. Through education. And what else? Can you guess his guess? Well, he taught Dante, right? ### 1:55:29 seg-0208 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0208` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0208](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0208) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6929s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6929s) Through Dante. ### 1:55:29 seg-0209 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0209` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0209](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0209) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6929s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6929s) What did he teach Dante? ### 1:55:32 seg-0210 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0210` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0210](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0210) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6932s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6932s) Faith, hope, and love. I don't know. ### 1:55:35 seg-0211 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0211` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0211](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0211) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6935s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6935s) What would he teach her off? Like at this time in history? Well, maybe poetry? Yeah. Yeah. Right? He was a poet. Right? So yeah. Okay. I understand. He doesn't want to have children, and that shows his lack of faith, love, and hope. But we already said that poetry is always an expression of faith, love, and hope. Yes? ### 1:55:56 seg-0212 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0212` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0212](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0212) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6956s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6956s) Well, I think him being in hell just shows that it isn't Dante who puts them in hell, but it's the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church says that homosexuality is a big sin, but Dante wouldn't say that. So it's not him who puts people in hell, right? It's the Catholic Church. ### 1:56:12 seg-0213 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0213` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0213](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0213) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6972s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6972s) But it's Dante who put Beatrice in heaven. Do you understand? So why would Dante do that? Why would Dante put Beatrice in heaven and then put his teacher, his father figure, in hell? And again, I mean, the only crime, the only sin, that Sir Bernardo is being accused of is homosexuality. Yeah, he was homosexual, but do you really, really think Dante cares that much about homosexuality? ### 1:56:39 seg-0214 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0214` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0214](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0214) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6999s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=6999s) Yes? It was a boundary you couldn't cross and disagree with at the time. And so just like if he would just mention that homosexuality was fine, then his work would have been destroyed. Do you think homosexuality was common at the time in history? No, but it occurred or in some texts. ### 1:56:58 seg-0215 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0215` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0215](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0215) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7018s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7018s) Okay, guys, okay, I hate to say this, okay? All right, I'm sorry. This might get me bad on YouTube, okay? But if you look at every society, okay, regardless if it's in China or Italy at this time, if you look at the elite, okay? I'm talking like the nobility, the elite, okay? Homosexuality was really, really common, guys. Really common, okay? You will not find me in society where a wealthy society, where the elite did not practice homosexuality in some form, yes? ### 1:57:33 seg-0216 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0216` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0216](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0216) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7053s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7053s) And especially during the Hellenistic period, it is actually a greater way to show your intellectual ability to have another male partner tend to have a wife because a wife is uneducated. You cannot have a soul to soul talk with her, but you could with a younger boy. And so that's why, yeah, the writer of the picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde, really wanted that kind of, yeah, because he expired through the Greek culture. So, so, right? ### 1:58:06 seg-0217 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0217` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0217](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0217) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7086s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7086s) Homosexuality is very common among the elite. And so what Sir Bernardo did, he did nothing wrong, but just do what all the elite did. And not all the elite, but like, it was pretty common, man. It was really common, okay? Like, if you go to like Yale, okay? Yeah, like, yeah. Okay. But yeah, it's a common thing, okay? And among the elite, it's not a big deal. So again, we have to figure out why this is happening. All right? Okay. All right. So we'll do that after the break. Okay. Welcome back. So to summarize what we learned this morning, remember that Dante is a prophet. He's basically trying to create an allegory of hell to represent Italy, right? That's why he's focused so much on the geography of hell. He's describing a way that if you are Italian, you just like recognize the geography right away. So hell as an allegory for Italy. ### 1:59:09 seg-0218 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0218` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0218](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0218) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7149s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7149s) And we know that ultimately as a prophet, what Dante is trying to convey to his audience is that you either repent or you will be judged, okay? Judge judgment, God's judgment will be swift, brutal, and harsh. And no one listens. So in 1357 came the Black Death to wipe out around a third of Europe, even half of Europe at certain places. And so what we're trying to do is we're trying to figure out how Dante perceived his period at this time. And there's certain things about Florence that made it unredeemable, okay? And what we're trying to figure out as well is our time, okay? Like today. Do these things apply to today? So the first major characteristic about hell is it's factionalism, right? So whereas, you know, Virgil is essentially the pope of hell. He is the authority figure. There are many factions who don't actually listen to him. And there's always infighting going on. ### 2:00:23 seg-0219 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0219` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0219](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0219) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7223s) So there's lots of factionalism going on in Florence at this time. And the same is happening today, right? Where you have wars going on, right? Second major characteristic of Florence is the intense economic pressure to succeed, right? All that matters is success and achievement. And today we call this the meritocracy. And in a meritocracy, there are certain things that become common, and yet at the same time, there are inhumane. For example, the most obvious is just to apologize, right? So remember the scene where Dante lies to Cavalcante and says, your son is dead and burning in hell. And he, and it causes tremendous despair to the father. And Dante recognizes he did wrong. And rather than apologize, he runs away and tells someone else to tell him on his behalf, okay? So there is an almost incapacity to apologize. So let me ask you this question. Let's go back to the example where at Tsinghua in the 80s or 90s, there are two classmates who are good friends. ### 2:01:42 seg-0220 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0220` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0220](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0220) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7302s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7302s) One gets in, the other receives the envelope, and rather than tell the friend, just throws the envelope in the garbage. And do you think that other person ever apologized in her life? Probably not, okay? I'm guessing not. But why? Why can't she just apologize? ### 2:02:04 seg-0221 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0221` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0221](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0221) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7324s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7324s) Yes? Because she probably has a huge ego and she feels like she's superior. She should be treated as equal to the other person. And she justifies what her deed is. ### 2:02:20 seg-0222 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0222` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0222](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0222) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7340s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7340s) Okay. Yes. Yes, go ahead. I mean, if she apologized, then the other girl would know that she would have got into Princeton in the first place. Well, eventually she found out, right? ### 2:02:31 seg-0223 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0223` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0223](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0223) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7351s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7351s) Because I'm like, you know, 20 years afterwards, 50 years afterwards, did she ever apologize? Probably not. But why? Yes? ### 2:02:46 seg-0224 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0224` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0224](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0224) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7366s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7366s) Like she knows what she has done. It's not, it's evil. It's not good. And it kind of like, she's saying like, oh, I know it's bad. ### 2:02:54 seg-0225 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0225` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0225](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0225) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7374s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7374s) But it was evil, right? ### 2:02:56 seg-0226 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0226` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0226](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0226) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7376s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7376s) Yeah. But if she doesn't apologize, it probably makes her feel better. Or like, I don't know. Well, go ahead. ### 2:03:07 seg-0227 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0227` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0227](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0227) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7387s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7387s) And then Carol. Yeah. ### 2:03:08 seg-0228 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0228` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0228](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0228) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7388s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7388s) Maybe he, maybe she can forgive herself. So she can forgive. So she can say sorry to her roommate. ### 2:03:19 seg-0229 - Speaker: SPEAKER_16 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0229` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0229](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0229) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7399s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7399s) Okay. ### 2:03:20 seg-0230 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0230` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0230](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0230) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7400s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7400s) Carol. ### 2:03:22 seg-0231 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0231` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0231](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0231) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7402s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7402s) I think she feels she's wrong in the first place. So why does she have to apologize? She was wronged by the world. ### 2:03:30 seg-0232 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0232` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0232](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0232) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7410s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7410s) Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So the thing about, um, um, I mean, the meritocracy is like, first of all, you become the center of the world, right? But also like you're keeping score everywhere. Does it make sense? So not only do you care about that other person's grades, but you also care about, hmm, does that person have a better house than I, than I, than I do? Does the person have better children than I do? You're always keeping score, right? And one way to keep score is how, how much wrong did you do? Right? Everything, everything is, is a test. Everything is a score card, right? So if I apologize, that means I, I'm not, I'm not in this person's debt. I now owe him or her a favor, right? Rather than seeing an apology as rectifying a wrong, I see it as forcing myself to go into someone's debt. Okay. Does it make sense? Okay. ### 2:04:19 seg-0233 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0233` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0233](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0233) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7459s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7459s) And that's why people don't apologize in a very, um, in a meritocracy. But the other thing that's even more troubling in a meritocracy is, and, um, it's, you delight in others. Pain. Okay. Think about this where, you know, you are at school and for, for the past year you delight in others pain. Okay. So for the past, for this entire year, there's one student in the class, usually a girl, but she scores a hundred on every single math test, right? And you get like, I don't know, 80, 85 on the final test. On final exam, she gets M 70 and she is distraught. She's crying. She, she, she's going berserk. How do you feel? No, you don't. I put it. You don't have flies. ### 2:05:18 seg-0234 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0234` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0234](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0234) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7518s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7518s) Maybe she cheated on a previous test. ### 2:05:21 seg-0235 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0235` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0235](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0235) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7521s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7521s) No, no. But I'm saying, what is your emotion? What is your emotion at this time? Well, I mean, uh, my emotion maybe depends, um, how it doesn't act. ### 2:05:33 seg-0236 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0236` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0236](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0236) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7533s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7533s) No, it doesn't. ### 2:05:34 seg-0237 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0237` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0237](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0237) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7534s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7534s) It doesn't, it doesn't depend who you are. It doesn't depend how you feel. What is your emotion? Finally. Finally. Okay. I do understand. Finally. Okay. She finally failed. Right. Every single day. The seizure is like, Oh, she's the best in the world. And like, just be like her. And then she's trying to screw it up. Okay. So you delight in others pain. And we see this in the vine comedy where Don is crossing the river sticks. Right. And this is the, um, circle of wrath where people are angry and they tear each other apart. Um, one of Dante's enemies from real life, Philippine, Argentina, he falls into this lake and, and the, and the other souls are terrible apart. Okay. Literally Tim apart. And Dante is ecstatic. Right. So rather than be like, feel pity, like, great man. Okay. And you know, it's not a good look, but what Don is doing is he's trying to reveal the problems and consequences of a meritocracy. ### 2:06:33 seg-0238 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0238` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0238](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0238) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7593s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7593s) What a meritocracy ultimately is. Imagine a race. Okay. Imagine a race and everyone's running as fast as they can. The person next to you trips and falls and breaks his or her ankle. Right. What you should do as a human being is stop and help that person get up, but you don't, you just smile and run on and you take the light and that other person falling, falling down. And I mean, we live in China. We see this every single day, right? Unfortunately, where if you have, if you're a parent and you have kids, you put your kids through this incredibly harsh system, right? And you see your child unhappy and you see your child under a lot of stress. And quite honestly, a lot of them will develop psychological issues, but you keep on going because you thought you think that if I fall behind, I'm dead. ### 2:07:28 seg-0239 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0239` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0239](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0239) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7648s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7648s) Okay. So that is the first major issue. But now what Don is going to do is he's also going to be another issue, which is homosexuality. Okay. Homosexuality. Okay. And this is really confusing for us, right? Because we've all seen Brokeback Mountain, Brokeback Mountain, right? We all know that for the longest time, homosexuals were persecuted in society. They had to hide. They, their love was forbidden. So isn't being a homosexual an act of faith, hope, and love? What does Don have against homosexuals? And you can't be like, well, he's just a product of his times. Because as we said in this class, we have to assume that Don is perfect and that he is timeless. Okay. So what we need to figure out is what is the problem with homosexuality? And also we need to be careful because if I say anything bad about homosexuality, I'm pretty sure next time I'm at Yale, I'll get stoned to death. ### 2:08:35 seg-0240 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0240` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0240](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0240) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7715s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7715s) Yeah. So yes, yes. You think I'm exaggerating, but I'm not. Yes. ### 2:08:40 seg-0241 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0241` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0241](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0241) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7720s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7720s) So I actually had this conversation with my husband about this because I have a lot of gay friends. I think they're the best in the world. And he's like, yeah, but there are problems with homosexuality. So we had this debate. So if anything I say, it's my husband. Okay. Don't blame me. Don't stoke me. But he said that the actual problem with it, it's kind of the same as greed and all that other things is that after you go through with all these acts or love or whatever, it brings to no fruitation of, um, because what essentially sex is, at least the way God intended it, for Adam and Eve is that you are supposed to be fruitful and multiply and occupy the earth. But if you, you are gay or homosexual, then you essentially cannot, unless you adopt a kid, right? Uh, like in modern family. Uh, but then he's saying, then you go ### 2:09:25 seg-0242 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0242` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0242](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0242) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7765s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7765s) through all this act and love and you, you don't appreciate the other gender, which is a different perspective. So if you are gay, you like your men, you like the other man, then you don't actually understand the women's perspective in a way. So in that way, you are in love with your own kind. You're in love with men's perspective. And then that way. ### 2:09:47 seg-0243 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0243` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0243](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0243) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7787s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7787s) Okay. That's great. That's brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing that. But let me ask you this question. Okay. It sounds the way your husband has defined homosexuality. It sounds like, um, homosexuality, sodomy belongs in the upper circles like lust and gluttony and wrath because you're not hurting anyone. All you're doing is you are not fulfilling your true potential as a human being. But in this circle, which is a circle of violence, right? The circle of violence, you're hurt. You actually have to hurt someone, right? So the question then is like, how does homosexuality actually go about hurting other people? Uh, yes. ### 2:10:27 seg-0244 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0244` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0244](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0244) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7827s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7827s) Well, it hurts women because it denies femininity in the world and on earth because all the girls in this class are looking at you like, what are you talking about? Well, ### 2:10:39 seg-0245 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0245` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0245](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0245) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7839s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7839s) well, because, ### 2:10:40 seg-0246 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0246` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0246](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0246) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7840s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7840s) well, because it's normal. I don't know. Uh, yeah. In the Christian view, maybe because, uh, you know, I've met for in love is men. ### 2:10:50 seg-0247 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0247` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0247](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0247) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7850s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7850s) There's no result because there's no, no children. Uh, ### 2:10:54 seg-0248 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0248` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0248](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0248) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7854s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7854s) the problem with that argument is you're saying that essentially the only purpose of a relationship is reproduction. Yeah, ### 2:11:00 seg-0249 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0249` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0249](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0249) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7860s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7860s) yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah. ### 2:11:01 seg-0250 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0250` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0250](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0250) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7861s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7861s) Jay and then Edward in Dante's time, was there a lot of grooming going on? Like, did he, I'm just wondering from Dante's perspective, what did he see that made him structure it this way? ### 2:11:12 seg-0251 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0251` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0251](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0251) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7872s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7872s) Exactly. Okay. So there must be something about Dante's understanding of homosexuality that made him resent it. Okay. Exactly. And he will tell us in the next two contos. Uh, this is so important to him. He'll spend the next two contos on it. Uh, yes, maybe through the historical lens when it's a man and a woman do it. ### 2:11:33 seg-0252 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0252` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0252](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0252) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7893s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7893s) There's kind of like the yin and yang go together. Yeah. And then the, Whereas when it's two men that, uh, the act is probably more graphic and more violent because you have two masculine energies. ### 2:11:45 seg-0253 - Speaker: UNKNOWN - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0253` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0253](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0253) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7905s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7905s) Right. ### 2:11:47 seg-0254 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0254` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0254](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0254) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7907s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7907s) Um, okay. Yeah. So, yes, ### 2:11:51 seg-0255 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0255` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0255](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0255) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7911s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7911s) I wonder if it has to do with elite circles where they think two men are superior to women. So they refuse to. So it's kind of almost the same as ego or arrogance that women are inferior. So it's making Eve kind of, um, the sinful, the corrupt, weak, ### 2:12:10 seg-0256 - Speaker: UNKNOWN - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0256` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0256](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0256) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7930s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7930s) uh, yes. ### 2:12:11 seg-0257 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0257` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0257](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0257) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7931s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7931s) Yeah. Uh, very good point. Uh, because we see in Paradisio that the upper echelons of heaven were fully occupied by these women. And now we're getting into the kind of like the depths of hell and then we're seeing, um, um, think about all these gay men that you've met in your life. ### 2:12:33 seg-0258 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0258` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0258](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0258) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7953s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7953s) What, what are they obsessed about? Uh, yes, ### 2:12:39 seg-0259 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0259` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0259](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0259) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7959s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7959s) maybe because soulmate, because, uh, no, no, I'm asking you about men like gay men in their day to day life. ### 2:12:44 seg-0260 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0260` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0260](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0260) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7964s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7964s) Well, what are they obsessed about? Yeah. Yes. Could be pride to me. Pride. ### 2:12:49 seg-0261 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0261` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0261](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0261) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7969s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7969s) What do you mean by pride? Like they, they want to show they're part of this tribe and they want to, like, they're proud of it. ### 2:12:56 seg-0262 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0262` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0262](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0262) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7976s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7976s) Okay. They're part of being homosexual. Okay. Uh, no, sorry. Sorry. Let, let, let, let, let's go one more one. Yes. Sex. They, they want to have a lot of sex. Yeah. Okay. But, but what do they do every day? ### 2:13:07 seg-0263 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0263` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0263](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0263) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7987s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=7987s) Uh, yes. I'd say they're, but they would be obsessed about finding other gay men. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Because it's difficult to know. It's not, it's not about sex. Okay. Not into today's world, but back then, uh, not back then either. ### 2:13:24 seg-0264 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0264` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0264](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0264) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8004s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8004s) Okay. It was actually pretty simple. Hmm. ### 2:13:26 seg-0265 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0265` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0265](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0265) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8006s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8006s) Yeah. ### 2:13:27 seg-0266 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0266` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0266](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0266) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8007s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8007s) Yeah. If you meet a lot, if you meet gay men, okay. The thing about them is like, they're really obsessed with their parents, much more so than woman. Right. I mean, is, is that a general statement? ### 2:13:39 seg-0267 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0267` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0267](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0267) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8019s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8019s) I have a joke that if you find a guy extremely hot and sexy, chances are he's gay because they, they care about appearance more than straight men. ### 2:13:48 seg-0268 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0268` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0268](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0268) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8028s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8028s) And, and, and so this is like the same argument. Is he gay or is he just a European? Like, like, caring about, caring about your appearance, is not something that you can just define as inherently gay. ### 2:14:02 seg-0269 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0269` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0269](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0269) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8042s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8042s) I don't think there's a logical correlation between that. If you care too much about your parents, and all you care about your, your parents, what word would we have to describe you? ### 2:14:11 seg-0270 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0270` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0270](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0270) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8051s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8051s) Narcissist? ### 2:14:12 seg-0271 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0271` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0271](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0271) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8052s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8052s) Yeah. Narcissist. You understand? Remember Narcissist? ### 2:14:15 seg-0272 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0272` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0272](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0272) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8055s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8055s) The, Narcissist, right? ### 2:14:17 seg-0273 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0273` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0273](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0273) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8057s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8057s) The Greek legend of this man, so in love with himself, he looks at himself every single day. Okay. That gives us a clue as what, what Donny's issue of homosexuality is. You're just looking at yourself every single day. And so like, when you actually meet someone, like, what are you looking for in that person? Yourself, right? Okay. So, so that's Donny's problem. Okay. But, but, but if that's by itself, the other question then is, why is he in the circle of violence? Because you're not actually hurting anyone. You're just, you're just like being narcissistic, right? Okay. All right. So like, like that's a question we want to answer. Okay. But, but yeah. Okay. Let's keep on reading. ### 2:15:10 seg-0274 - Speaker: UNKNOWN - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0274` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0274](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0274) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8110s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8110s) Oh, count to 15, line 34. ### 2:15:15 seg-0276 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0276` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0276](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0276) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8115s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8115s) I think we're at 31. ### 2:15:17 seg-0277 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0277` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0277](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0277) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8117s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8117s) Oh, 31. Okay. ### 2:15:19 seg-0278 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0278` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0278](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0278) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8119s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8119s) So, so this is Sir, Sir Brunetto, who is the teacher and father figure to Dante. And again, he is in the circle of violence because of his violence against God. He's a homosexual. He's a homosexual, which goes against God in nature. Okay. ### 2:15:40 seg-0279 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0279` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0279](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0279) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8140s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8140s) Verse 31. And he, my son, do not mind if Brunetto Latino lingers for a while with you and lets the file he's with pass on ahead. I said, with all my strength, I pray you stay. And if you have, you'd have me rest a while with you. I shall that please him with him. I go. Oh, son, he said, wherever of this flock stops, but a moment stays a hundred years and cannot shield himself. When fire strikes, therefore, move on below, but close. I'll follow. And then I shall rejoin you company who go lamenting their eternal sorrows. I did not dare to leave my path for his own level, but I walked with head bent lows as does a man who goes in reverence. And he began what destiny or chance has let you here below before your last day came. And who is he who shows the way there? And the sunlit life above. ### 2:16:30 seg-0280 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0280` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0280](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0280) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8190s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8190s) I answered before my years were full. I went astray within a valley. Only yesterday at dawn I turned my back upon it. But when I was newly lost, he here appeared to guide me home again along this path. And he to me, if you pursue your star, you cannot fail to reach a splendid harbor. If in fair life, I judged you properly. And if I had not died too soon for this, on seeing heaven was so kind to you, I should have helped sustain you and your work. But that malicious, that ungrateful people come down in ancient times from Fiesole, still keeping something of the rock. And mountain for your good deeds will be your enemy. And there's cause among the sour swabs. The sweet fake is not meant to bear its fruit. The world has long since called them blind. A people presumptuous, avaricious, envious. Be sure to cleanse yourself of their foul ways. ### 2:17:21 seg-0281 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0281` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0281](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0281) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8241s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8241s) Your fortune holds and stores such honor for you. One party and the other will be hungry for you, but keep the grass far from the goat. For let the beast of Fiesole find forge amongst themselves and leave the plant alone. If still among their dung it rises up, in which there lives again the sacred seed of those few Romans who remained in Florence when such a nest of wickedness was built. ### 2:17:45 seg-0282 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0282` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0282](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0282) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8265s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8265s) Okay, so this is a direct reference to the Aeneid where Aeneas visits his father in the underworld to receive his prophecy. And this mirrors that, okay? So again, this is highlighting the fact that Supernato really is the father figure to Dante. Okay, keep on going. ### 2:18:06 seg-0283 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0283` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0283](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0283) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8286s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8286s) If my desire were answered totally, I said to Supernato, you'd still be among, not banished from humanity. Within my memory is fixed and now moves me, your dear, your kind paternal image when in the world above from time to time you taught me how man makes himself eternal. And while I live, my gratitude for that must always be apparent in my words. ### 2:18:27 seg-0284 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0284` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0284](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0284) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8307s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8307s) Okay, so he's being very explicit here, right? You're my father, you're my teacher. Everything I know is because of you, right? And he's saying that if I could, I would have you still among us. But he can because he wrote this thing, okay? So this is a huge paradox for us. Keep on going. ### 2:18:46 seg-0285 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0285` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0285](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0285) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8326s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8326s) Line 88. What do you have told me of my course? I write. I keep it with another text for comment by one who'll understand if I may reach her. One thing alone I'd have you plainly see so long as I am not rebuked by conscience I stand prepared for fortune come what may. My years find no new pledge in that prediction. Therefore let fortune turn her wheel as she may please and let the peasant turn his mattock. At this my master turned his head around and toward the right and looked at me and said, he who takes note of this has listened well. But nonetheless my talk with Ser Brunetto continues and I ask of him who are his comrades of repute and excellence. And he to me, to know of some is good but for the rest silence is to be praised. The time we have is short for so much talk. In brief, ### 2:19:36 seg-0286 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0286` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0286](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0286) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8376s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8376s) that my company has clerics and men of letters and of fame and all were stained by one same sin upon the earth. ### 2:19:43 seg-0287 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0287` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0287](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0287) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8383s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8383s) Okay, alright. Okay, so this is again very problematic. You know, he's saying that with me are men who are clerics and men who are poets and men who are extremely successful, okay? So this is a huge problem because regardless of your achievements you're still stuck here just because you happen to like other men, alright? This is very paradoxical. It is very, it is very, it is not something that we've ever seen from Dante before, okay? This does not make any sense on the surface. Keep on going. ### 2:20:23 seg-0288 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0288` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0288](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0288) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8423s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8423s) No, no. That sorry crowd holds Priscian and Francesco di Corso and among them you can see if you have any longing for such scurf. The one, the servant of his servant sent from the Arno to the Bacchiglione's banks. And there he left his tendons strained by sin. I would say more, but both my walk and words must not be longer for beyond I see new spoke emerging from the sandy bed. Now people come with whom I must not be. Let my tesoro in which I solely live be precious to you and I ask no more. And then he turned and seemed like one of those who race across the fields to win the green cloth at Verona. Of those runners he appeared to be the winner, not the loser. Okay. ### 2:21:08 seg-0289 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0289` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0289](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0289) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8468s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8468s) All right. So in the next canto, canto 16, we will meet three really distinguished Florentines. Okay. These are aristocrats and they're extremely virtuous. And back in Florence, everyone praises them. But again, just because of their homosexuality, they are condemned to the circle of violence. Okay. Let's read. ### 2:21:30 seg-0290 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0290` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0290](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0290) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8490s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8490s) Canto 16. No sooner had I reached the place where one could hear a murmur like a beehive's hum of waters as they fell to the next circle when setting out together, three shades ran, leaving another company that passed beneath the rain of bitter punishment. They came toward us and each of them cried out, stop you who by your clothing seem to be someone who comes from our indecent country. Ah me, what wounds I saw upon their limbs, wounds new and old, wounds that the flame seared in. It pains me still as I remember it. When they cried out, my master paid attention. He turned his face toward me and then he said, now wait, to these one must show courtesy. And were it not the nature of this place for shafts of fire to fall, I'd say that haste was seemlier for you than for those three. As soon as we stood still, they started ### 2:22:22 seg-0291 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0291` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0291](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0291) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8542s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8542s) up their ancient wail again and when they reached us, they formed a wheel, all three of them together. As champions, naked oiled, we'll always do each, studying the grip that serves him best before the blows and wounds begin to fall. While wheeling, so each one made sure his face was turned to me so that their necks opposed their feet in one uninterrupted flow. ### 2:22:42 seg-0292 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0292` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0292](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0292) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8562s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8562s) Okay, so these three individuals are the three most distinguished members of the Florentine nobility. Okay, they're so distinguished that even Virgil admires and respects them. Okay, uh, keep on going. ### 2:23:01 seg-0293 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0293` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0293](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0293) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8581s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8581s) Line 28. And if the squalor of this shifting sand together with our baked and barren features makes us in our requests contemptible, one said, then may our fume incline, may our fume incline, may our fume incline our mind to tell us who you are, whose living feet can make their way through hell with such assurance. He in whose steps you see me tread, although he now must wheel about both peeled and naked, was higher in degree than you believe. He was a grandson of the good Gualdrada, and Guido Guerra was his name, and life his sword and his good sense accomplished much. The other who behind me trampled sand, Tagallo Aldobrandi, one whose voice should have been heeded in the world above. And I who share this punishment with them was Jacopo Rusticucci. Certainly more than all else, my savage wife destroyed me. If I'd had shield and shelter from the fire, I should have thrown myself down among them. ### 2:23:58 seg-0294 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0294` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0294](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0294) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8638s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8638s) I think my master would have sanctioned that. But since that would have left me burned and baked, my fear went out against the good intention that made me so impatient to embrace them. Then I began, your presence in me, the state had fixed not scorn but sorrow in me, and so deeply that it will only disappear slowly. As soon as my lord spoke to me with words that made me understand what kind of men were coming toward us, men of worth like yours, for I am your city, and with fondness I've always told and heard the others tell of both your actions and your honored names. I leave the Gaul and go for the sweet apples that I was promised by my truthful guide, but first I must ascend it to the center. So may your soul long lead, your limbs, and may your fame shine after you, he answered then. ### 2:24:46 seg-0295 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0295` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0295](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0295) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8686s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8686s) Tell us, if courtesy and valor still abide within our city as they did when we were there, or have they disappeared completely? For Guglielmo Possiedre, who only recently has come to share our torments and goes there with our companions, has caused us much affliction with his words. New comers to the city in quick gains have brought excess and arrogance to your floor, and so you weep for it already. So I cried out Wait, wait, so, so the words excess and arrogance, okay? ### 2:25:16 seg-0296 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0296` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0296](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0296) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8716s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8716s) Excess and arrogance. Also, um, excess and arrogance. These are, this is the current state of Florence, okay? Excess and arrogance. Okay, keep on going. ### 2:25:35 seg-0297 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0297` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0297](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0297) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8735s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8735s) 76. So I cried out with face up raised. The three looked at each other. When they heard my answers, men will stare when they have heard the truth. If you can always offer a reply so readily to others at all three, I am happy you who speak at will so clearly. So if you can escape these lands of darkness and see the lovely stars on your return when you repeat with pleasure, I was there. Be sure that you remember us to men. At this they broke their wheel, and as they fled, their swift legs seemed to be no less than wings. The time it took for them to disappear more brief than time it takes to say amen, and so my master thought it right to leave. I followed him. We'd only walked a little when roaring water grew so near to us, we hardly could have heard each other speak. And even as the ### 2:26:21 seg-0298 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0298` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0298](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0298) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8781s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8781s) river that is first to take its own course eastward from Mount Viso along the left flank of the Apennines, which up above is called the Aquacheta, before it spills into its valley bed and flows without that name beyond Forley, reverberates above San Benedetto d 'Alpe as it cascades in one leap where there is space enough to house a thousand. So did we hear that blackened water roar as it plunged down a steep and craggy bank, enough to deafen us in a few hours. Around my waist I had a cordless girdle, and with it once I thought I should be able to catch the leopard with the painted hide. And after I had loosened it completely, just as my guide commanded me to do, I handed it to him, knotted and coiled. At this he wheeled around upon his right and cast it at some distance from the edge straight down into the depth of the ravine. ### 2:27:17 seg-0299 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0299` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0299](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0299) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8837s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8837s) And surely something strange must here reply, I said within myself, to this strange sign, the sign my master follows with his eye. Ah, how much care men ought to exercise with those whose penetrating intellect can see our thoughts, not just our outer act. He said to me, Now there will soon emerge what I await and what your thought has conjured. It soon must be discovered to your sight. Faced with that truth which seems a lie, a man should always close his lips as soon as he can. To tell it shames him, even though he's blameless, but here I can't be still. And by the lines of this my comedy, reader, I swear, and may my verse find favor for long years, that through the dense and darkened air I saw a figure swimming, rising up enough to bring amazement to the firmest heart, like one returning from the waves where he went down to ### 2:28:16 seg-0300 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0300` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0300](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0300) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8896s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8896s) lose an anchor snagged upon a reef, or something else hid in the sea, who stretches upward and draws in his feet. ### 2:28:23 seg-0301 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0301` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0301](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0301) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8903s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8903s) Okay, so now they will descend down to the circle of fraud. Now, okay, so let's think about this. Sir Bernetto was in the last canto, and this creates a paradox, right? Why would Dante put such a man he loves in the circle of violence? And that creates a paradox. But now, in this canto, the paradox strengthens because these three individuals are the best Florence has to offer, okay? They are the best of nobility, and they also suffer with Sir Bernetto. So clearly, Dante wants us to think about what's going on here, okay? Why are these four individuals who commit no other sin other than homosexuality, why are they in the circle of violence? And in the worst part, right? Because they have committed violence against God. All right. Yes? ### 2:29:29 seg-0302 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0302` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0302](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0302) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8969s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8969s) It could be seen as... Yeah, go ahead. It's fine. Go ahead. I think it could be seen as violence because it could lead to the end of humanity. And I'm thinking of this because if we're a reflection of the universe, and if we engage in homosexuality, that would mean the universe could engage in that, and if we tend it to, the end of times, then it's the end of humanity. ### 2:29:51 seg-0303 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0303` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0303](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0303) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8991s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=8991s) Okay. Yup. Sure. That is the explanation that's offered, right? But again, does that make sense to you? It has to make sense, right? Yes? ### 2:30:02 seg-0304 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0304` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0304](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0304) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9002s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9002s) Yeah. Actually, I don't think it makes sense. I'm not gay, of course. But, you know, I still believe that if you have free will, and you have love, and why you can't just be a homosexual? I mean... ### 2:30:13 seg-0305 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0305` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0305](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0305) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9013s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9013s) Yeah. So again, it's a problem for us, right? Why is homosexuality so bad? Okay. All right. So let's figure this out. And again, to read Dante, you have to read with your imagination, right? You have to use your imagination. So let's use your imagination and ask ourselves, if we were designing this circle, right? Violence against God. Who would we put in this circle? What is the worst thing in life you can do and which would offend both God and nature? What is it? Excuse me? No, that's violence against yourself, right? There are already three crimes. Violence against others, violence against yourself, and violence against God and nature. I'm saying, like, what is probably the most unnatural act we could ever do? Incest. Exactly. Incest, guys. Do you understand? There could be bestiality, having sex with animals, but that's not as bad as having sex with your sister. Okay? Do you understand this? I don't know. ### 2:31:22 seg-0306 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0306` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0306](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0306) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9082s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9082s) I'm going to ask you this question. Besides homosexuality, what else is pretty common among the elite? ### 2:31:28 seg-0307 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0307` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0307](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0307) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9088s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9088s) Incest. ### 2:31:28 seg-0308 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0308` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0308](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0308) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9088s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9088s) Incest is pretty common among the elite, right? Because they want to maintain their bloodline. Because they want to maintain their purity. Do you understand? Okay? So this is implicit here. If it is violence against God and nature, people who commit incest have to be here as well, but they're not mentioned, which forces us to imagine they're here. Okay? Now, let's figure out this. Okay? Let us use our imagination to figure out what is the connection between homosexuality and incest? What is it? What's the problem? What is the connection? Yes? ### 2:32:18 seg-0309 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0309` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0309](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0309) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9138s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9138s) In sex is having sex with your own kind, and so is homosexuality with your own kind, like your own gender. ### 2:32:25 seg-0310 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0310` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0310](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0310) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9145s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9145s) Right. And so what are you doing in society? What do you do with other people? ### 2:32:29 seg-0311 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0311` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0311](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0311) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9149s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9149s) You exclude. ### 2:32:31 seg-0312 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0312` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0312](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0312) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9151s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9151s) Exclusion. You understand? It's exclusion. The purpose of this is to exclude other people. The elite only want to maintain their privileges and block social mobility. Okay? This is the violence against God and nature. Okay? Social mobility, okay? And openness, right? Homosexuality, it's the expression of self -love. And self -indulgence. It's the expression of excess and arrogance. Right? We are so superior to you, we will only have sex with our kind and with ourselves. We refuse to associate with any of you. Right? And then over time, what happens? If the elite engage in homosexuality and incest, what happens now? ### 2:33:38 seg-0313 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0313` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0313](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0313) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9218s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9218s) Extinction, because with incest, your weaker gene gets combined, and you have a lot of, yeah. ### 2:33:44 seg-0314 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0314` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0314](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0314) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9224s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9224s) Okay, yes, exactly, okay? ### 2:33:46 seg-0315 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0315` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0315](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0315) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9226s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9226s) So this threat, yes? I'm just pushing this logic further. So if the elite only engages in homosexuality, then they don't reproduce. They get to appoint, you know, who will inherit their power, their wealth, and then so on and so forth. So it's a much more kind of controlled way of propagating power, wealth, and all that. ### 2:34:16 seg-0316 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0316` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0316](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0316) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9256s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9256s) Yes, right, okay. All right, so let me now, now let's do a compare and contrast, okay? Let's think about a society in which the elite don't practice homosexuality, and let's think about a society in which they do practice homosexuality, okay? All right, so, I mean, again, we can generalize and say that as society rises, okay, there is less homosexuality. And as society declines, there is more homosexuality. Does that make sense? Right? If a society is poor, there's less likely to be homosexuality. If a society is rich and declining, there's more likely to be homosexuality. All right? And the example of this is now just Western culture. If you just turn on TV, homosexuals are not persecuted, right? They are celebrated, right? Before, you know, in America, you had a gay politician, Peter Buttigieg. Before, it would blow the imagination that any politician would be like, would say, I'm gay, I'm proud of it, and please vote for me, right? ### 2:35:32 seg-0317 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0317` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0317](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0317) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9332s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9332s) It would blow the imagination. Now, but, you know, in 2020, when Pete Buttigieg ran for the Democratic nomination, his homosexuality made him very popular. All right? So my question to you is, what's the difference? What's the difference between a society where homosexuality is persecuted and a society which celebrates homosexuality? ### 2:35:59 seg-0318 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0318` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0318](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0318) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9359s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9359s) Yes, you first. Because before, homosexuality meant exclusion, whereas now I think it's more, way more inclusion, where we see as they're way more open -minded and they're open to engage in any culture, philosophy, and all. ### 2:36:12 seg-0319 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0319` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0319](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0319) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9372s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9372s) Yeah, but that's a good thing, right? But I'm asking you why Donnie would think this represents a society in decline, right? Because clearly lamenting about Florence, right? He's clearly, he says that Florence right now is a city of excess and arrogance, right? And homosexuality is a very important part of that. So I'm trying to figure out why that's the case. Why is it that you embrace homosexuality, it makes your society much more open, but it causes you to decline? That's a paradox, right? But it is historically true. Look at the fall of Rome. Yes? ### 2:36:50 seg-0320 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0320` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0320](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0320) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9410s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9410s) I think, sir, I think at the time it didn't make your society more opened. I think it's only applicable today, whereas, so before it was exclusion, whereas now the whole aspect of it changed. So I think... Could you repeat that? I'm not sure I understood you. I think at the time of Dante, homosexuality was about exclusion, so it was more of a negative aspect, whereas today it's more about open -minded. And so before it wasn't about openness, it was exclusion. So you think homosexuality is a good thing? It's good for society? I'm saying it changed. So before it was, like, against open -mindedness, and now it's more open. ### 2:37:32 seg-0321 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0321` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0321](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0321) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9452s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9452s) So I'm just asking you a question, which is, like, what Dante is saying is that homosexuality is a sign of social decline. There's lots of homosexuality today everywhere in China and the United States. Is it a good thing or a bad thing, do you think? ### 2:37:46 seg-0322 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0322` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0322](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0322) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9466s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9466s) I just think the definition changed. So if you think it's a bad thing and this thing changed, then, like, you can't just say it's a bad thing today. The definition changed. ### 2:37:58 seg-0323 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0323` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0323](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0323) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9478s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9478s) No, no, no, the definition of homosexuality has not changed, right? It's still sex between two guys. How has that changed? So, yeah, go ahead. ### 2:38:06 seg-0324 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0324` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0324](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0324) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9486s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9486s) So, yeah, I think I understand his question, that he thinks that homosexuality today represents openness instead of closeness and exclusiveness. So then it shall now be elevated because it's a good thing to embrace. But I will argue that if we look at the France Olympics in the past few years, the... So homosexuality or, like, the elevation of this, like, transgender and everything as well, that it actually deprives of women or the other sex more because what happens with the French Olympics the other year, that's why JK Rowling got into this huge thing too, is that the man boxer who changed to be women and then he beat up all the female competitors, so no one won the box... The female champion for boxing was a man. Basically, so he excludes and actually, you know, denied the actual, the natural women. I understand, but I'm still trying to figure out why homosexuality would cause society to decline. ### 2:39:05 seg-0325 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0325` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0325](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0325) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9545s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9545s) Yes? ### 2:39:07 seg-0326 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0326` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0326](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0326) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9547s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9547s) Could it be that when society is arising, there's like a natural order and a natural law that everyone follows, but when the society is falling, it's like... I can't remember who it was, but I remember hearing someone once say that, like, homosexuality is the ultimate act of contrarianism and it's like when you start rejecting all of the sort of natural laws. So it's not really just about the homosexuality, it's that if you adopt this mindset where there is no natural law, it will extend into basically the breakdown of morality. ### 2:39:40 seg-0327 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0327` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0327](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0327) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9580s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9580s) But so, so why is there this breakdown of natural law? Why do people not follow natural law? Yeah, go ahead. ### 2:39:49 seg-0328 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0328` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0328](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0328) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9589s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9589s) Actually, I don't think homosexuality means that they're embracing everything and openness. I think it actually means the opposite. There's a book called The Closing of American Mind, which is basically saying if you open and, like, embrace every culture, in the end, you're not, you're actually, like, exclusion. ### 2:40:18 seg-0329 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0329` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0329](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0329) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9618s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9618s) Okay, yes? ### 2:40:20 seg-0330 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0330` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0330](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0330) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9620s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9620s) I would like to say from Dan's perspective, he regards, like, homosexuality is a bad thing for society. I would say, maybe, it's, I mean, homosexuality obeys the law that God gave us. So, like, for example, initially, when the world has been created, why we have two genders, like, male and female? That means there is naturally, that there should be attraction between male and female to make sure we're kind of alive, and the civilization could be continued, right? So if people are homosexual, they are kind of, they want this natural law that's given by the God to precede, you know? ### 2:40:58 seg-0331 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0331` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0331](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0331) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9658s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9658s) Okay, let me ask you this question, okay? Let me ask you this question. Homosexuality today is celebrated. Homosexuality before was persecuted. Did the percentage of homosexuals, homosexuals in society, did it go up or down? ### 2:41:17 seg-0332 - Speaker: SPEAKER_16 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0332` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0332](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0332) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9677s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9677s) Down. ### 2:41:19 seg-0333 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0333` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0333](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0333) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9679s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9679s) I think it's pretty similar, okay, do you understand? There were lots of homosexualities before. It's, yes? So I have a, I have a few comments. ### 2:41:29 seg-0334 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0334` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0334](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0334) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9689s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9689s) First of all, I think, metaphorically, homosexuality can be described as violence against love. It's physical, in the sense that, it's not celestial, it's not emotional, but it's, it's physical. That's why, we need not only celestial love, but also fleshly love. And that's, that's a divine order. And in that sense, homosexuality, homosexuality is a rejection of the female appeal and also the order of love on the, on the flesh, on the physical level. But I agree with some of the comments that said, homosexuality is, is as bad as, as bad as incest in, in causing more inclusion, exclusion, because from the genetic point of view, although I do have some reservation about genetics, from genetic point of view, homosexuality actually results in the, in the, in the distribution of the wealth from the elite, more to the, for the people who can procreate. And if the elite choose not to engage in, you know, bisexual sex, then it will cause more, you know, fair distribution. ### 2:42:58 seg-0335 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0335` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0335](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0335) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9778s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9778s) Whereas incest is the, is the attempt for the elite to create, you know, to concentrate the wealth in, in more homogenous gene, which is bad for society. ### 2:43:11 seg-0336 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0336` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0336](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0336) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9791s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9791s) Okay. All right. So let me ask you this question, okay? How does Donnie feel about the elite? What does he think about the elite, this nobility? How, how, how does he perceive the nobility, do you think? ### 2:43:27 seg-0337 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0337` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0337](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0337) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9807s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9807s) Entitled? ### 2:43:28 seg-0338 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0338` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0338](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0338) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9808s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9808s) Yeah, they're entitled. Are they a good thing or a bad thing? ### 2:43:30 seg-0339 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0339` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0339](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0339) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9810s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9810s) Of, of course a bad thing. ### 2:43:32 seg-0340 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0340` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0340](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0340) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9812s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9812s) They're a bad thing. So, so what is, so what do you do with them? Get rid of them? What would you do? ### 2:43:38 seg-0341 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0341` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0341](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0341) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9818s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9818s) You, you try to make them humble again. You make, ### 2:43:42 seg-0342 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0342` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0342](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0342) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9822s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9822s) but like, how do you make them humble? Okay. Okay guys. I like, like, like, like, I, I don't want to spend too much time on this. Okay. So let's get on this. Okay. First of all, how does Donnie feel about the nobility? And then the question then is, I want to focus on is, why is it when societies on the rise, there's less homo, homosexuality, but when societies are in the, are in decline, there's more homosexuality. What I mean, what I mean by, I mean like, like there's more open outward homosexuality, right? The percentage, that's why I say the same, right? But as societies are on the rise, the elite, they would not practice their homosexuality in open, right? They hide it. They, they would hide it. They would still get married, have children. What's the difference? Yes, you, you, then you. ### 2:44:37 seg-0343 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0343` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0343](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0343) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9877s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9877s) I think there's two things. First, it's about needs. Once you have like everything you need, then you try to seek something else. So when a society has access to food protection and et cetera, you try to engage in something new. That could be homosexuality. And also it could be due to dating aspect because it's, if a society is very well constructed and becomes very competitive, then you have a really low chance to access to the 1%, 5%, 5 % above. And so you just engage in your own gender. ### 2:45:09 seg-0344 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0344` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0344](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0344) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9909s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9909s) Okay. Yes. You. Yeah, I agree. And I think it just refers to the aspect of hope in a declining society. If you don't have kids as a homosexual, then you say that you don't have hope in the future. Okay. ### 2:45:25 seg-0345 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0345` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0345](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0345) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9925s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9925s) Okay. ### 2:45:25 seg-0346 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0346` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0346](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0346) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9925s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9925s) All right. ### 2:45:25 seg-0347 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0347` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0347](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0347) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9925s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9925s) So, so, so, so, so I want to change your question. Okay. Okay. Okay. Imagine you're at Yale. Okay. You're a freshman at Yale. Okay. And you know the answer. So, so, so you and I won't participate. Okay. But imagine you're at Yale or Harvard or Princeton. And in 1960s, you go into Yale and the president is addressing you, right? What is he going to say to you? You're saying you're at Yale to do what? In 1960s or seventies or eighties or nineties? Exactly. Right. Change the world. Better humanity. Service humanity. Right? Today, when you're at Yale, Harvard or Princeton, the president says what to you? If you're at university, you know the answer. What's the answer? Be yourself. Be yourself. Your identity is what matters. Right? Am I wrong here? Be yourself. Celebrate yourself. That's why society declines. Do you understand? That's why society declines. That's why homosexuality is a problem. That's why homosexuality is a problem. ### 2:46:38 seg-0348 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0348` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0348](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0348) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9998s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=9998s) Because it's not the act itself. It's the attitude. Like be yourself. Indulge yourself. Love yourself. Don't worry about other people. Don't worry about your responsibility to society. Don't try to change the world for better. Just celebrate yourself and be happy. And if you're, and if you're not happy, complain about it. Celebrate yourself. Am I wrong? ### 2:47:09 seg-0349 - Speaker: UNKNOWN - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0349` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0349](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0349) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10029s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10029s) Okay. ### 2:47:10 seg-0350 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0350` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0350](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0350) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10030s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10030s) Okay. That's what Don is saying here. He's saying that homosexuality, like incest, it represents a, like an inward churning, right? A narcissism that is extreme. So yeah. ### 2:47:24 seg-0351 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0351` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0351](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0351) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10044s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10044s) Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Yes. So does he say that it's not real love? No. No. You can't love yourself. Or the other men. ### 2:47:35 seg-0352 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0352` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0352](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0352) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10055s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10055s) No, but, but like what he's saying is like when you love other men, what you're really doing is loving yourself. It's a narcissism, right? Because narcissists saw himself in the mirror and he wanted to like have sex with him himself. That's what homosexuality is. It's narcissists having sex with, with, with, with himself. And I'm not saying that's right, but I'm just saying like, like this is how Dante perceives this. Okay. All right. Yes. ### 2:48:06 seg-0353 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0353` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0353](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0353) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10086s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10086s) Why is Dante neglecting the narcissist aspect in heterosexuality? Because like, as we see today, there are people who focus on looks. To attract women. And so just putting out the narcissistic, narcissistic aspect in homosexuality would be neglecting the, this aspect in the other side. ### 2:48:26 seg-0354 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0354` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0354](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0354) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10106s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10106s) Right. Yes. Okay. That's a really interesting question. And unfortunately in hell, we don't have narcissism as a sin. Why not? Okay. The answer is. At this time in history, what Dante is trying to do is he's trying to, he's trying to change the idea of the ego, right? So the Catholic church is teaching, teaching you that ego is bad self self -love self -love doesn't it's a worse sin with the worst evil, right? And what Don is saying is that if that's your attitude, you can't actually go and change the world for the better. You have to believe that you are so good. God loves you so much that you. You will have the power to change the world for the better. Okay. And, and that's why the three sins, sorry, there are two sins, envy and pride. He actually doesn't list in inferno. He will listen to purgatory, but not inferno. Okay. So, so, ### 2:49:41 seg-0355 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0355` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0355](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0355) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10181s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10181s) so that, so that's what Donnie is trying to do. He is trying to tell us that self -love is a good thing, but self -love as expressed with. Okay. Other man is a bad thing. Okay. Because it's self -indulgent. Okay. So homosexuality by itself is not bad. The act isn't bad, but the attitude of it is bad, which is like, like all I care about is myself. I'm loving myself. I'm celebrating myself. That's the issue. Okay. Does that make sense? All right. All right. So, um, I make this comment, right? And so what Don is saying is that nobility is not good or bad. It's how the ability behaves. That's good or bad. Right. If society is paving towards betterment of society, then they're good. But if there are behaving like narcissists, that's bad. Okay. That can only mean the destruction of society because at this point in history, it is not possible to imagine a society without nobility. ### 2:50:37 seg-0356 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0356` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0356](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0356) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10237s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10237s) Right. It's you can't have communism. No one's going to imagine communism at this point and think about how unfair that would be. Right. This family has spent generations, um, creating all this wealth and you just take it from them. They, so, so, but it would never suggest that what he's, what he's, what he's suggesting is that nobility have a distinct responsibility to the rest of society to contribute. Okay. And when they engage in homosexuality, it just shows that they have a better society. Okay. They don't even care about hypocrisy anymore. They can't even bother to, uh, demonstrate propriety and, um, uh, leadership to everyone else. Okay. Does that make sense? Okay. So to confirm that what I'm saying is correct, what we're going to do is we're going to read Paradiso 16. Okay. So Dante has an amazing way of marrying himself, creating symmetry. So we are in, we were in front of 16. ### 2:51:32 seg-0357 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0357` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0357](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0357) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10292s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10292s) We're not going to jump to Paradiso 16 where, um, Dante is going to talk to his great grandfather and his great grandfather is going to share the story of his family and the story of Florence. Okay. So this is the early days of Florence when the elite working hard to build a greater Florence and you can compare contrast these two contos. Okay. So, so, so let's read Paradiso 16. ### 2:52:00 seg-0358 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0358` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0358](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0358) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10320s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10320s) Paradiso Canto 16. If here below where sentiment is far too weak to withstand error, I should see men glorying in you. Nobility of blood, a meager thing. I should not wonder for even where desire is not awry, I mean in heaven I too felt such pride. You're indeed a cloak that soon wears out so that if day by day we add no patch, then circling time will trim you with its shears. My speech began again with you, the word that Rome was the first city to allow, although her people seldom speak it now. At this word Beatrice, somewhat apart, smiling, seemed like the woman who had coughed. So goes the tale at Guinevere's first fault. So did my speech begin. You're my father. You heartened me to speak with confidence. You raised me. Tell me so that I am more than I. So many streams have filled my mind with gladness, so many and such gladness that mine must rejoice that it can bear this and not burst. ### 2:52:55 seg-0359 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0359` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0359](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0359) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10375s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10375s) Then tell me, founder of my family, who were your ancestors and in your boyhood what were the years or records registered? And tell me of the sheepfold of St. John, how numerous it was, who in that flock were worthy of the highest offices. As at the breathing of the winds a coal will quicken into flame, so I saw that light glow at words that were affectionate. And as before my eyes it grew more fair, so with a voice more gentle and more sweet not in our modern speech it set to me. Down from that day when Ave was pronounced until my mother, blessed now by giving birth, eased the burden borne in bearing me. This fire of Mars had come 550 and 30 more times to its lion, there to be rekindled underneath its paw. My ancestors and I were born just where the runner in your early games first comes upon the boundary of the final ward. ### 2:53:46 seg-0360 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0360` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0360](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0360) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10426s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10426s) That is enough concerning my forbears. What were their names from where they came if that silence not speech is more appropriate? All those who at that time between the Baptist and Mars were capable of bearing arms numbered one -fifth of those who live there now. But then the citizens, now mixed with Compi, with the Ciotaldo, and with the Figlini, were pure down to the humblest artisan. Oh, it would be far better if you had those whom I mention as your neighbors. And your boundaries at Galluzzo and Trespiano, than to have them within, to bear the stench of Agiglione's wretch and Signia's wretch, whose sharp eyes now on baritory are set. If those who in the world go most astray had not seen Caesar with stepmother's eyes, but like a mother to her son been kind, the one who has become a Florentine trader and money changer would have stayed in Semifonte, where his fathers peddled. ### 2:54:45 seg-0361 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0361` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0361](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0361) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10485s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10485s) The Counts would still be lords of Montemurlo, the Cerchi would be in Ocone's parish, perhaps the Buonamante in Val di Greve. The mingling of the populations led to evil in the city, even as food piled on food destroys the body's health. The blind bull falls more quickly, more headlong than does the blind lamb, and the one blade can often cut more and better than five swords. Consider Luni, Ubisalia, how they went to ruin. See? Senigallia follows, and Chiusi, too, will soon have vanished. Then, if you should hear of families undone, you will find nothing strange or difficult in that, since even cities meet their end. All things that you possess possess their death, just as you do, but in some things that last long, death can hide from you whose lives are short. And even as the heaven of the moon, revolving, respite -less, conceals and then reveals the shores, so fortune does with Florence. ### 2:55:45 seg-0362 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0362` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0362](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0362) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10545s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10545s) Therefore, there is no cause. There is no cause for wonder in what I shall tell of noble Florentines, of those whose reputations time has hidden. I saw the Ugi, saw the Catalini, Filippi, Greci, Armani, Alberici, famed citizens already in decline, and saw, as great as they were venerable, Delarca with Della Sonnella and Ardinghi, Sodanieri and Bostichi, nearby the gate that now is burdened with new treachery that weighs so heavily that it will bring the vessel to ship. There were the Raveniani, from whose line Count Guido comes, and all who since derived their name from the illustrious Bellaccioni. And Della Presa knew already how to rule, and Galeaio, in his house, already had the gilded hilt and pommel. The stripe of Vaire had mightiness already, as did the Giochi Galli and Berrucci, Fafantini, Zacchetti and those who blush for the bushel. ### 2:56:44 seg-0363 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0363` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0363](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0363) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10604s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10604s) And the stock from which sprang from Calfuco. And the stock from which sprang from Calfuco. The stock from which sprang from Calfuco. Gute was already mighty, and Sizi and Aregucci were already raised to high office. Oh, how great were those I saw, whom pride laid low, and the gold balls in all of her great actions flowered Florence. Such were the ancestors of those who now, whenever bishop sees are vacant, grow fat as they sit in church consistories. The breed so arrogant and dragon -like in chasing him who flees, but lamb -like, meek to him who shows his teeth. or else his purse was on the rise already, but of stock so mean that Ubertin Donato, when his father -in -law made him kin to them, was scarcely pleased. Already Caponsaco had come from Fiesole down to the market. Already citizens of note were Giuda and Infant Gato. I shall tell a thing incredible and true. ### 2:57:40 seg-0364 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0364` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0364](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0364) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10660s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10660s) The gateway through the inner walls were named for the Della Pera. All those whose arms bear part of the fair ensign of the great baron, he whose memory and worth are honored on the feast of Thomas, received knighthood and privilege from him. Those he whose coat of arms has fringed that ensign has taken sides now with the populace. The Gualterati and the Importuni were there already, where the Borgo spared new neighbors. It would still be tranquil there. The house of Amadei, with which your sorrows, both began by reason of its just resentment, which ruined you and ended years of gladness, were honored then as were its close companions. A Buondamante through another's counsel, you fled your wedding pledge and brought such evil. Many would now rejoice, who still lament if when you first approached the city, God had given you unto the river Emma. But Florence, in her final peace, was fated to offer up unto that mutilated stone guardian upon her bridge. ### 2:58:45 seg-0365 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0365` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0365](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0365) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10725s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10725s) A victim, these were the families and others with them. The Florence that I saw in such repose that there was nothing to have caused her sorrow. These were the families with them I saw her people so acclaimed and just that on her staff the lily never was reversed, nor was it made blood red by factious hatred. ### 2:59:04 seg-0366 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0366` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0366](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0366) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10744s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10744s) Okay, so here Donny's great -grandfather is recounting the glory of Florence and explaining why Florence ultimately declined. Okay, so for the great -grandfather, what's the main reason why Florence declined? If you talk to any old person, okay, it's always this reason. What is it? What led to the decline of Florence? ### 2:59:35 seg-0367 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0367` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0367](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0367) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10775s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10775s) Excess and arrogance? ### 2:59:36 seg-0368 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0368` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0368](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0368) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10776s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10776s) No, no. Maybe that's Dante, but here it's different. This is the great -grandfather and he's like, this is why Florence went down. Yes? ### 2:59:47 seg-0369 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0369` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0369](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0369) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10787s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10787s) People's greed towards materials. It wasn't like money. ### 2:59:51 seg-0370 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0370` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0370](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0370) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10791s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10791s) Yeah, but where did that come from? Where did this materialism come from? ### 2:59:55 seg-0371 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0371` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0371](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0371) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10795s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10795s) Chase for power? ### 2:59:57 seg-0372 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0372` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0372](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0372) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10797s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10797s) What caused, yes? ### 2:59:59 seg-0373 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0373` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0373](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0373) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10799s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10799s) Factious hatred? ### 3:00:01 seg-0374 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0374` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0374](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0374) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10801s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10801s) No, what's causing this materialism? What's causing this hatred? Come on. I mean, like you just talk to your grandparents, right? And like your grandparents are like, yeah, before this was a great neighborhood, but then what happened? Before this was a lovely neighborhood and everyone got along great, but then? ### 3:00:27 seg-0375 - Speaker: SPEAKER_16 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0375` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0375](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0375) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10827s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10827s) Maybe something about the young people? No, what happened, guys? ### 3:00:31 seg-0376 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0376` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0376](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0376) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10831s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10831s) Maybe people became selfish? ### 3:00:33 seg-0377 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0377` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0377](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0377) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10833s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10833s) No. Someone new came into the neighborhood. ### 3:00:38 seg-0378 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0378` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0378](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0378) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10838s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10838s) Immigrants! ### 3:00:41 seg-0379 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0379` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0379](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0379) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10841s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10841s) Goddamn immigrants! Again, this is not a political correct class, okay? Why is immigration bad? Why is immigration bad? ### 3:01:06 seg-0380 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0380` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0380](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0380) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10866s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10866s) It puts into conflict people with different cultures. ### 3:01:10 seg-0381 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0381` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0381](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0381) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10870s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10870s) Okay, yes, it creates a cultural clash, yes. What else? ### 3:01:12 seg-0382 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0382` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0382](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0382) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10872s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10872s) Because the values you hold is different. ### 3:01:15 seg-0383 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0383` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0383](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0383) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10875s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10875s) Exactly, okay? Your values change. Before, these old families were dedicated to helping other people around them, helping their neighbors. But when you have people with so many values come in, like, that are different from yours, what's your only solution to this problem of immigration? ### 3:01:35 seg-0384 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0384` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0384](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0384) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10895s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10895s) Like, exclude them so you have your own communities? ### 3:01:39 seg-0385 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0385` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0385](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0385) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10899s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10899s) Okay, so exclusion, but I'm saying, how do you unite the entire city? For what? To be more conservative. No, the old people, yes. ### 3:01:52 seg-0386 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0386` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0386](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0386) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10912s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10912s) Assimilation, maybe? ### 3:01:53 seg-0387 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0387` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0387](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0387) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10913s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10913s) But how do you assimilate them? ### 3:01:55 seg-0388 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0388` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0388](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0388) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10915s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10915s) Oh, your stuff is cool, too. We accept everything. Like, everything is cool. We are soluble. ### 3:02:02 seg-0389 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0389` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0389](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0389) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10922s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10922s) So, materialism? Money. Do you understand? If you have immigrants come in, everyone shares different values, the only value that you have to create, to unify society is money, right? And money leads to the separation of selfishness, right? That's why you can't no longer be, change the world, because that's Western imperialism. It has to be, be yourself. Separate yourself, okay? And how do you do that? Go make a lot of money. So, this is a pattern throughout human history, okay? You think that, oh, look, isn't it great that if you work hard, you can be a trillionaire? No, it's not. I mean, how about contributing to your community? How about working hard to create families? How about making a safe and moral society? Right? But you're not taught that. You're taught, just go make a lot of money, and be yourself, and celebrate yourself. And if you want to be gay, great. Okay? Does that make sense? ### 3:03:08 seg-0390 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0390` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0390](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0390) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10988s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=10988s) All right? So, again, again, this is not politically correct, okay? But again, we're trying to examine why societies decline, and so you have, Don is saying, you have immigrants, you have homosexuality, you have factionalism, you have economic pressure, okay? And are they true today? Yeah, they're very much true today. So, according to Dante, we are very much a society in decline. Does anyone want to argue against this? Like, I don't want to be seen as brainwashing you, okay? Do you want to argue against this? Yes, thank you. ### 3:03:47 seg-0391 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0391` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0391](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0391) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11027s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11027s) Well, with immigration, I want to point out that, for example, with World War II in Europe, when many people were persecuted, they came to see the United States as the promised land and where you won't be persecuted. So, a lot of the best scientists and intellectuals and whoever it is went to America. So, you know, immigration can create kind of more vibrancy in society. Sure. ### 3:04:18 seg-0392 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0392` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0392](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0392) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11058s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11058s) Yeah, that's a great argument. Yes? ### 3:04:23 seg-0393 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0393` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0393](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0393) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11063s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11063s) The population decline. So, like, you bring people because your culture doesn't make enough children to finance your society. ### 3:04:32 seg-0394 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0394` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0394](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0394) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11072s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11072s) Yeah, but why is your population declining? ### 3:04:35 seg-0395 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0395` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0395](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0395) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11075s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11075s) I don't know. No, you do know why population is declining. It's because? It's too expensive. People make less kids. Well, come on, man. ### 3:04:44 seg-0396 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0396` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0396](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0396) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11084s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11084s) It's a lack of social mobility. Yeah, lack of social mobility, homosexuality, narcissism. Okay, do you understand? So, published decline is a symptom of society decline and immigration is just a short -term remedy. It's not a long -term solution. Yes? ### 3:05:01 seg-0397 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0397` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0397](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0397) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11101s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11101s) Population could also decline because the cost of raising a child is increased. ### 3:05:07 seg-0398 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0398` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0398](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0398) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11107s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11107s) Yeah, exactly. But that's also a society decline, right? Where you can't even, where young people can no longer afford to have families. Okay. Yes? ### 3:05:15 seg-0399 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0399` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0399](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0399) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11115s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11115s) Maybe because people just do not believe in God because they believe in money and money can help themselves, right? ### 3:05:20 seg-0400 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0400` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0400](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0400) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11120s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11120s) Yeah, the lack of religion, right? Okay. Okay. But I'm saying, like, argue against staunter, okay? And what Carol says is, yeah, but immigration allows for more vibrancy, allows for more creativity, right? And also, like, if you don't let an immigrant, society is going to decline even further, even faster. Yes? Anyone else to argue against this? ### 3:05:46 seg-0401 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0401` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0401](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0401) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11146s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11146s) In more developed economies, immigrant workers are often a cheaper source of labor. ### 3:05:54 seg-0402 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0402` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0402](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0402) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11154s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11154s) But is that a good thing? Like, you know, let's bring in poor people to exploit. ### 3:05:57 seg-0403 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0403` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0403](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0403) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11157s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11157s) To exploit them. ### 3:05:58 seg-0404 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0404` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0404](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0404) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11158s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11158s) I mean, really? ### 3:05:59 seg-0405 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0405` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0405](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0405) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11159s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11159s) I mean, for the capitalists, it's a good thing. ### 3:06:02 seg-0406 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0406` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0406](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0406) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11162s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11162s) Right. I'm sure it is. Any other arguments against this? Yes? ### 3:06:10 seg-0407 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0407` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0407](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0407) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11170s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11170s) I think it helps with unity in the world because, like, if every culture is represented in every country, then it, it creates unity and we all move together towards one path. ### 3:06:22 seg-0408 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0408` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0408](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0408) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11182s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11182s) Exactly. So you look at the World Cup, right? America right now is hosting the World Cup. You go to every stadium, it's packed with different cultures and they're all celebrating together. Right. So multiculturalism, sure. What else? Yes? ### 3:06:38 seg-0409 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0409` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0409](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0409) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11198s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11198s) Yeah, like multiculturalism kind of brings you different perspectives so that you can actually debate between values. You kind of examine truth from different lenses and perspectives. So it gives you, maybe it might get you closer to the truth. So that's why I think the Pope actually last month met with the Muslim leader. So the two of them had a talk. So it's like be more embracing of a different religion, culture, perspective. Right. Okay. ### 3:07:03 seg-0410 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0410` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0410](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0410) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11223s) So it makes everyone much more tolerant, right? Much more open. That's great. Okay. So that's all great. But how to explain to Dante the lack of creativity in our world today? Why is it in today's world no one is able to write the Divine Comedy? I actually can't remember the last good book I read or the last good movie I saw. I literally cannot. ### 3:07:35 seg-0411 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0411` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0411](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0411) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11255s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11255s) Yes? For our needs and we stop suffering and so we don't need to engage in anything difficult. Also because of technology, everything is simple for us and so it's just, we have nothing to talk about or no energy that can make us create new stuff. Okay. You're absolutely right. Yes? ### 3:07:57 seg-0412 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0412` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0412](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0412) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11277s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11277s) I think people right now are too material and not spiritual enough. ### 3:08:03 seg-0413 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0413` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0413](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0413) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11283s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11283s) Yeah, but why would that lead to a decline in creativity? Right? Because in theory, if you can make a trillion dollars writing a Divine Comedy, why don't you go write it? Right? ### 3:08:13 seg-0414 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0414` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0414](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0414) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11293s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11293s) Yes? People lost their love. People are hopeless and they just care about their job, about money, but not about spiritual things. ### 3:08:22 seg-0415 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0415` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0415](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0415) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11302s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11302s) Yeah, yeah. People have, yes, go ahead. I think I want to add on to that because people are not only too materialistic, they're also like, we haven't been this spiritually away from ourselves, from our inner world. I mean, this is the, we've never been like this because you see all the religions and all the Buddhism, all that thing, dating back in thousands years ago, but now like I don't, it's a small portion of the society will still talk about this, I think. ### 3:08:49 seg-0416 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0416` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0416](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0416) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11329s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11329s) Right, exactly. Okay, so this is really interesting because if Dante were to come today, look at our world, he'd be like, this is a lot worse than my world, man. Because regardless of how bad things were back then, at least they had roots, right? At least they had family and community, a sense of like each other. Whereas today we are all rootless, right? We have no history. We have no culture. We have no tradition. If you say these things, then they'll say you're racist or you're a bigot. Okay, I mean, right? Okay, so it makes you really think about what is really valuable in society. Okay, so let's go to Canto 17, please. ### 3:09:35 seg-0417 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0417` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0417](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0417) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11375s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11375s) Canto 17. Behold the beast who bears the pointed tail, who crosses mountains, shatters weapons walls. Behold the one whose stench fills all the world. So did my guide begin to speak to me, and then he signaled him to come ashore close to the end. To the end of those stone passageways. And he came on that filthy effigy of fraud and landed with his head and torso, but did not draw his tail onto the bank. The face he wore was that of a just man. So gracious was his features, outer semblance, and all his trunk, the body of a serpent. He had two paws with hair up to the armpits, his back and chest, as well as both his flanks had been adorned with twining knots and circlets. No Turks or Tartars ever fashioned fabrics more colorful in background and relief, nor had Arachne ever loomed such webs. As boats will sometimes lie along the shore ### 3:10:28 seg-0418 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0418` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0418](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0418) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11428s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11428s) with part of them on land and part in water, and just as there among the guzzling Germans, the beaver sets himself when he means war. So did that squalid beast lie on the margin of stone that serves as border for the sand. And all his tail was quivering in the void while twisting upward an envenomed fork, which had a tip just like a scorpion's. My guide said, now we'd better bend our path a little, till we reach as far as that malicious beast which crouches over there. Thus we descended on the right -hand side and moved ten paces on the stony brink in order to avoid the sand and fire. When we had reached the sprawling beast, I saw a little father on upon the sand, some sinner sitting near the fissured rock. And here my master said to me, so that you may experience this ring in full, go now and see the state in which they are. ### 3:11:17 seg-0419 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0419` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0419](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0419) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11477s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11477s) But keep your conversation with them brief. Till you return, I'll parley with these beasts to see if he can lend us his strong shoulders. So I went on alone and even farther along the seven circles outer margin to where the melancholy people sat. Despondency was bursting from their eyes, the sight that their hands kept fending off at times the flames, at times the burning soil. Not otherwise do dogs in summer, now with muzzle, now with paw, when they're bitten by fleas or gnats or by the sharp gadfly. When I had set my eyes upon the faces of some on whom that painful fire falls, I recognized no one. But I did notice that from the neck of each a purse was hung that had a special color and an emblem. And their eyes seemed to feast upon these pouches. Looking about when I had come among them, I saw a yellow purse with azure on it that had the face and manner of a lion. ### 3:12:14 seg-0420 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0420` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0420](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0420) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11534s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11534s) Then as I let my eyes move farther on, I saw another purse that was blood red and it displaced a goose more whiter than butter. And one who had an azure pregnant sow inscribed as emblem on his white pouch said to me, What are you doing in this pit? Now you be off, and since you're still alive, remember that my neighbor, Battagliano, shall yet sit here upon my left -hand side. Among these Florentines, I'm Paduan. I often hear them thunder in my ears, shouting, Now let the sovereign cavalier, the one who'll bring the purse home, with three goats come. At this he slewed his mouth, and then he stuck his tongue out like an ox that licks its nose. And I, afraid that any longer stay, might anger him who'd warned me to be brief, made me back from those exhausted souls. ### 3:13:05 seg-0421 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0421` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0421](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0421) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11585s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11585s) I found my guide, who had already climbed upon the back of that brute animal, and he told me, Be strong and daring now, for our descent is by this kind of stairs you mounted from I want to be between, so that the tail can't do you any harm. As one who feels the cord and fever near and shivers with his nails already blue, the sight of shade enough to make him shudder. So I became when I had heard these words, but then I felt the threat of shame which makes a servant in his kind lord's presence brave. I settled down on those enormous shoulders, I wished to say, and yet my voice did not come as I thought. See that you hold me tight, but he who other times in other dangers sustained me, just as soon as I had mounted, clasped me within his arms and propped me up and said, Now Geryon, ### 3:13:57 seg-0422 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0422` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0422](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0422) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11637s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11637s) move on, take care to keep your circles wide, your landing slow, remember the new weight you're carrying. Just like a boat that starting from its moorings moves backward, backward, so that beast took off and when he felt himself completely clear, he turned his tail to where his chest had been and having stretched it, moved it like an eel and with his paws he gathered in the air. I do not think that there was greater fear in Phaethon when he let his reins go free for which the sky as one still sees was scorched, nor in poor Icarus when he could feel his sides unwinged because the wax was melting, his father shouting to me, That was wrong, then was in me when on all sides I saw that I was in the air and everything had faded from my sight except the beast. Slowly, slowly swimming, he moves on, he wheels and he descends, but I feel only the wind upon my face and the wind rising. ### 3:14:55 seg-0423 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0423` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0423](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0423) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11695s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11695s) Already on our right, I heard the torrent resounding there beneath us horribly so that I stretched my neck and looked below. Then I was more afraid of falling off for I saw fires and I heard laments at which I tremble, crouching and hold fast. And now I saw what I had missed before, his wheeling and descent because great torments were drawing closer to us on all sides. Just as a falcon long upon the wing whose seeing neither lure nor bird compels the falconer to cry, On me you fall, descends exhausted in a hundred circles where he had once been swift and sets himself embittered and enraged far from his master. Such at the bottom of the jagged rock was Gurion when he had set us down and once our weight was lifted from his back he vanished like an arrow from a bow. ### 3:15:46 seg-0424 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0424` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0424](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0424) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11746s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11746s) Okay, so two points. The first point is that to descend from the circle of violence, the circle of fraud, okay, and quite honestly, the circle of fraud will occupy about a third of the Divine Comedy. We're in canto 17, there's 34 cantos in Inferno, we're halfway through. So most of the time we'll actually spend in the circle of fraud as well as the circle of treachery. What takes them down to the circle is a beast called a Gurion. The Gurion has the face of an honest man, a very good -looking man that you trust, but it has the tail of a scorpion, okay? So it can sting you at any time. So that's what fraud is, okay? Fraud seduces you into doing something and then stings you, okay? That's the first point. Second point is that while Virgil is taming the Gurion, Dante is looking around and he meets these moneylenders who are buried in the sand. ### 3:16:54 seg-0425 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0425` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0425](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0425) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11814s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11814s) What traps them in the ground are these purses of money, right? So this is a fitting punishment because in life they trapped or they enslaved others with debt, right? With interest. So they're getting a taste of their own medicine and that's what hell is. The pain that you cause unto others, you yourself will feel for all of eternity, okay? All right, so let's... Any questions before we move on? Are we clear? Okay, so that's circle of violence. Now we descend to the circle of fraud, which is the majority of the Divine Comedy, okay? Inferno 18. ### 3:17:42 seg-0426 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0426` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0426](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0426) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11862s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11862s) Inferno Canto 18. There is a place in hell called Malibolge. ### 3:17:48 seg-0427 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0427` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0427](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0427) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11868s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11868s) So Malibolge is the name of the circle, okay? The circle of fraud. And there are different ditches for different frauds, okay? ### 3:17:56 seg-0428 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0428` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0428](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0428) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11876s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11876s) Made all of stone the color of crude iron as is the wall that makes its way around it. Right in the middle of this evil field is an abyss, a broad and yawning pit whose structure I shall tell in its due place. The belt that extends between the pit and that hard, steep wall's base is circular. Its bottom has been split into ten valleys. Just as where moat on moat surrounds a castle in order to keep guard upon the walls, the ground they occupy will form a pattern. So did the valleys here form a design and as such fortresses have bridges running right from their thresholds toward the outer bank. So here across the banks and ditches ridges ran from the base of that rock wall until the pit that cuts them short and joins them all. This was the place in which we found ourselves when Geryon had put us down The poet held to the left and I walked at his back. ### 3:18:51 seg-0429 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0429` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0429](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0429) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11931s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11931s) Upon the right I saw new misery, I saw new tortures and new torturers filling the first of Malabolge's moats. Along its bottom naked sinners moved to our side of the middle facing us beyond that they moved with us but more quickly. As in the year of Jubilee, the Romans, confronted by great crowds, contrived a plan that let the people pass across the bridge. For to one side went all who had their eyes upon the castle heading toward St. Peter's and to the other those who faced the mount. Both left and right along the somber rock I saw horned demons with enormous whips who lashed those spirits cruelly from behind. Ah, how their first strokes made those sinners lift their heels! Indeed, no sinner waited for a second stroke to fall before a third. And as I moved ahead my eyes met those of someone else and suddenly I said, I was not spared the sight of him before. ### 3:19:49 seg-0430 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0430` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0430](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0430) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11989s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=11989s) And so I stayed my steps to study him. My gentle guide had stopped together with me and gave me leave to take a few steps back. That scourged soul thought that he could hide himself by lowering his face. It helped him little, for I said, You, who cast your eyes upon the ground if these your features are not false, must be Venedico, caccia nemico. But what brings you to sauces so piquant? And he to me, I speak unwillingly, but your plain speech that brings the memory of the old world to me is what compels me. For it was I who led Ghisolabella to do as the Marquis would have her do. However, they retell that filthy tale. I'm not the Bolognese who weeps here. Indeed, this place is so crammed full of us that not so many tongues have learned to say Sipa between the Savanna and Renno. ### 3:20:43 seg-0431 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0431` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0431](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0431) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12043s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12043s) If you want faith and testament of that, just call to mind our aphoricious hearts. And as he spoke, a demon cudgelled him with his horse whip and cried, Be off, you pimp. There are no women here for you to trick. I joined... ### 3:20:58 seg-0432 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0432` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0432](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0432) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12058s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12058s) Okay, so these are pimps, right? These are people who've sold their sisters or others to wealthy men. And Venedico is one of them. And for their punishment, they're being whooped around by demons, okay? Which is what they did in real life to their sisters or to their daughters. Or they're just pimps. Okay, keep on going. ### 3:21:25 seg-0433 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0433` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0433](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0433) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12085s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12085s) Line 67. I joined my escort once again, and then with but few steps, we came upon place where from the bank a rocky ridge ran out. We climbed quite easily along that height, and turning right upon its jagged back, we took our leave of those eternal circlings. When we had reached the point where that ridge opens below to leave a passage for the last, my guide said, Stay and make sure that the sight of still more ill -born spirits strikes your eyes, for you have not yet seen their faces since they have been moving in our own direction. From the old bridge, we looked down at the ranks of those approaching from the other side. They, too, were driven onward by the lash. And my good master, though I had not asked, urged me, Look at that mighty one who comes and does not seem to shed a tear of pain. How he still keeps the image of a king. ### 3:22:16 seg-0434 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0434` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0434](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0434) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12136s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12136s) That shade is Jason, who with heart and head deprived the men of Colchis of their ram. He made a landfall on the Isle of Lemnos after its women, bold and pitiless, had given all their island males to death. With polished words and love signs, he took in Hysippoli, the girl whose own deception had earlier deceived the other women. And he abandoned her, alone and pregnant. Such guilt condemns him to such punishment. And for Medea, too, revenge is taken. With him go those who cheated so. This is enough for you to know of that first valley and of the souls it clamps within his jaws. ### 3:22:57 seg-0435 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0435` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0435](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0435) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12177s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12177s) Does anyone know the story of Jason and Medea? Jason and Medea. Jason is of the Argonauts, right? And with Medea's help, he is able to retrieve the golden fleece. So he takes Medea home to Greece. They marry together. They have children together. But then in order for Jason to climb even higher, he marries a princess and betrays Medea. So what does Medea do? Do you guys know the story? Can you guys guess what she does? ### 3:23:41 seg-0436 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0436` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0436](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0436) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12221s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12221s) Did she kill her kids? ### 3:23:43 seg-0437 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0437` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0437](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0437) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12223s) Yeah, she killed her kids. Yeah. I mean, Greek tragedy. It's such a... Yeah, but she killed her two young kids as to avenge her betrayal. Okay. All right. So, yeah. Okay. Keep on going. ### 3:23:59 seg-0438 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0438` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0438](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0438) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12239s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12239s) Line 100. We were already where the narrow path reaches and intersects the second bank and serves as shoulder for another bridge. We heard the people whine in the next pouch and hurt them as they snorted with their snouts. We heard them use their palms to beat themselves. And exhalations rising from above stuck to the banks, encrusting them with mold. And so waged war against both eyes and nose. The bottom is so deep, we found no spot to see it from except by climbing up the arch until the bridge's highest point. This was the place we reached. The ditch beneath held people plunged in excrement that seemed as if it had been poured from human privies. And while my eyes searched that abysmal sight, I saw one with a head so smeared with shit, I could not see if he were lay or cleric. ### 3:24:48 seg-0439 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0439` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0439](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0439) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12288s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12288s) Okay. So let's fill this, okay? What do you do in real life that will warrant you basically awash in shit for all of eternity? You're just basically swimming in shit, drowning in shit for all of eternity. What did you do in life? What was your problem? Anyone? We have the punishment, right? Which is you just, you know, swim in shit. You're... What did you do in real life to warrant this? ### 3:25:22 seg-0440 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0440` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0440](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0440) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12322s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12322s) Like, shit other people? Like, put other people in such a situation? So... ### 3:25:29 seg-0441 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0441` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0441](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0441) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12329s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12329s) No. I mean... Sure. Bullshit, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right? Flattery. Bullshit. Yes. You're just BS -ing other people all the time, okay? So now you're just drowning in it. All right. Keep on going. ### 3:25:48 seg-0442 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0442` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0442](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0442) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12348s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12348s) 118. He howled. Why do you stare more greedily at me than at the others who are filthy and I? Because if I remember right, I have seen you before with your hair dry, and so I awe you more than all. You are Alessio Intermine of Lucca, then he continued pounding on his pate. I'm plunged here because of flatteries of which my tongue had such sufficiency, at which my guide advised me. See you thrust your head a little farther to the front so that your eyes can clearly glimpse the face of that besmirched, bedraggled haridan who scratched at herself with shit -filled nails. And now she crouches. Now she stands upright. That is Tyas, the harlot who returned her lover's question. Are you very grateful to me by saying, yes, enormously? And now our sight has had its fill of this. ### 3:26:40 seg-0443 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0443` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0443](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0443) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12400s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12400s) Okay. All right. So another major characteristic of a sighting in the client, of course, is fraud, right? Fraud. It's just like you can't trust each other anymore. Right? Is fraud an issue today? Yeah, it's a huge issue today. Okay? Yes? ### 3:27:01 seg-0444 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0444` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0444](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0444) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12421s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12421s) Did you know that 80 % of all criminal cases in Hai Dian are internet fraud? ### 3:27:14 seg-0445 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0445` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0445](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0445) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12434s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12434s) Yes. Okay. The internet, right? ### 3:27:16 seg-0446 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0446` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0446](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0446) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12436s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12436s) And now we have AI. We have deep fake. It's all done. ### 3:27:21 seg-0447 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0447` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0447](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0447) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12441s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12441s) Yeah, exactly. AI, right? So we live in a world of fraud. Like it's literally not impossible to tell what is fake news. Right? It's really hard. Okay? And it's really hard now to trust other people. And so this is also a symptom of a society in decline. Why is this a problem? Why is this a problem? Yes? ### 3:27:55 seg-0448 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0448` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0448](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0448) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12475s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12475s) A lot of wasted energy. Okay. People wasting their imagination defrauding people and people wasting their imagination trying not to get cheated. ### 3:28:05 seg-0449 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0449` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0449](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0449) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12485s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12485s) Yeah, it's impossible to work together. Do you understand? Right? It's impossible to make promises. It's impossible to make contracts. It's impossible to cooperate. It's impossible to cooperate anymore. Okay? Yeah. Okay. Let's keep on going. ### 3:28:33 seg-0450 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0450` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0450](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0450) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12513s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12513s) Canto 19. As Simon Magus, O his sad disciples, rapacious ones who take the things of God that ought to be the brides of righteousness and make them fornicate for gold and silver, the time has come to let the trumpet sound for you. Your place is here and in this third pouch. We had already reached the tomb beyond and climbed onto the ridge where its high point hangs just above the middle of the ditch. We had already reached the top of the church. O highest wisdom, how much art you show in heaven, earth, and this sad world below, how just your power is when it allots. Along the sides and down along the bottom, I saw that livid rock was perforated. The openings were all one width and round. They did not seem to me less broad or more than those in my handsome San Giovanni when were made to serve as basins for baptizing. And ### 3:29:21 seg-0451 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0451` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0451](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0451) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12561s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12561s) one of these not many years ago I broke for someone who was drowning in it and let this be my seal to set men straight. O highest wisdom, how much art you show Out from the mouth of each hole there emerged a sinner's feet and so much of his legs up to the thigh. The rest remained within. Both souls of every sinner were on fire. Their joints were writhing with such violence they would have severed withes and ropes of grass. As flame on oily things will only stir along the outer surface, so thereto that fire made its way from heels to toes. Master, I said, who is that shade who suffers and quivers more than all his other comrades, that sinner who is licked by redder flames? And he to me, if you would have me lead you down along the way, to the deepest of the banks, from him you will learn about his self and sins. ### 3:30:12 seg-0452 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0452` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0452](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0452) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12612s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12612s) And I, what pleases you will please me too. You are my lord. You know I do not swerve from what you will. You know what is unspoken. At this we came upon the fourth embankment. We turned on keeping to the left, ascended into the narrow perforated bottom. My good lord did not let me leave his side until he brought me to the hole that held that sinner who lamented with his legs. The man would plant it like a pole. My words began, do speak if you are able. I stood as does the friar who confesses the foul assassin who fixed fast head down, calls back the friar and so delays his death. And he cried out, are you already standing, already standing there, O Boniface? The book has lied to me by several years. Are you so quickly sated with the riches for which you do not fear to take by guile the lovely lady than to violate her? ### 3:31:09 seg-0453 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0453` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0453](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0453) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12669s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12669s) And I became like those who stand as if they have been mocked who cannot understand what has been said to them and can't respond. But Virgil said, tell this to him at once. I am not he, not who you think I am. And I replied as I was told to do. At this the spirit twisted both his feet and sighing and with a despairing voice he said, what is it then you want of me? If you have crossed the bank and climbed so far to find out who I am then know that I was one of those who wore the mighty mantle and surely was the son of the she -bear so eager to advance the cubs that I pursued well above while here I purse myself. Below my head there is the place of those who took the way of simony before me and they are stuffed within the clefts of stone. ### 3:31:56 seg-0454 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0454` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0454](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0454) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12716s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12716s) I too shall yield my place and fall below but I have baked my feet a longer time have stood like this upon my head than he to stand planted here with scarlet feet for after him when uglier in deeds will come a lawless shepherd from the west worthy to cover him and cover me he'll be a second Jason of whom we read in Maccabees and just as Jason's king was soft to him so shall the king of France be soft to this one and I do not know if I was too rash here I answered so then tell me now how much gold did our lord ask that Saint Peter give to him before he placed the keys within his care surely the only thing he said was follow me and Peter and the others never asked for gold or silver when they chose Matthias to take the place of ### 3:32:49 seg-0455 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0455` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0455](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0455) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12769s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12769s) the transgressing soul stay as you are for you're rightly punished and guard with care the money got by evil that made you so audacious against Charles and were it not that I am still prevented by reverence for those exalted keys that you had held within the happy life I'd utter words much heavier than these because your avarice afflicts the world it tramples on the good lifts up the wicked you shepherds the evangelist had noticed when he saw her who sits upon the waters and realized she fornicates with kings she who was born with seven heads and had the power of the ten horns as long as virtue was her husband's pleasure you've made yourselves the god of gold and silver how are you different from the idolaters save that they worship one and you a hundred ah Constantine what wickedness was born and not from your conversion from the dower that you bestowed upon the ### 3:33:45 seg-0456 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0456` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0456](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0456) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12825s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12825s) first rich father and while I sang such notes to him whether it was his indignation or his conscience I do indeed believe it pleased my guide he listened always with such satisfied expression to the sound of those true words and then he gathered me in both his arms and when he had me fast against his chest where he climbed down before climbed upward now nor did he tire of clasping me until he brought me to the summit of the arch that crosses from the fourth to the fifth rampart and here he gently set his burdens down gently a rugged pass for goats for there another valley lay before me ### 3:34:32 seg-0457 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0457` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0457](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0457) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12872s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12872s) okay so this is um another one of Donny's um pirates against the church against church corruption okay so the crime the sin that is being punished here is simony okay what simony is is it's very common at this time for the church to sell holy relics to people and this was very profitable right because this is the biggest thing about it right it's the church so and a lot of this a lot of these relics were fake but even if they weren't fake you shouldn't do that right you shouldn't sell holy relics to the highest bidder what is the modern equivalent of simony ### 3:35:10 seg-0458 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0458` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0458](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0458) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12910s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12910s) excuse me ### 3:35:14 seg-0459 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0459` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0459](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0459) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12914s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12914s) selling offices selling offices well they did do that um back then as well okay so that's not the same but someone else selling simony yes um ### 3:35:27 seg-0460 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0460` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0460](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0460) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12927s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12927s) maybe taxes taxes can you explain well um you pay taxes and in return the state promise you that you're safe and yeah you have a better life okay ### 3:35:42 seg-0461 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0461` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0461](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0461) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12942s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12942s) so um simony is a crime the church even the church condones simony right because simony is named after simony magus who is the first heretic in the catholic church so simony is a bad thing they kept on doing it so i'm saying so in the in our modern world what would the equivalent be of simony ### 3:36:03 seg-0462 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0462` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0462](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0462) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12963s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12963s) selling credentials excuse me credentials selling credentials yeah ### 3:36:08 seg-0463 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0463` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0463](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0463) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12968s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12968s) that's a really good example right selling diplomas right and do universities engage in some diplomas oh legacies no no no no it's actually not just that how do universities engage in selling um credentials do you guys know you increase the tuition every year no ### 3:36:34 seg-0464 - Speaker: UNKNOWN - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0464` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0464](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0464) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12994s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12994s) they receive ### 3:36:36 seg-0465 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0465` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0465](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0465) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12996s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=12996s) yeah they receive donations yes okay yeah right okay so donations um but also like um summer school continue education like there are lots of ways in which universities sell their credentials okay uh any other examples yes ### 3:37:01 seg-0466 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0466` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0466](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0466) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13021s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13021s) luxury items so like very expensive bags or like symbolic items which don't hold value actually right ### 3:37:12 seg-0467 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0467` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0467](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0467) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13032s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13032s) but so the idea of simony is corruption right you're just abusing your power and profiting from it so if you're a luxury goods uh retailer i mean that's not corruption right so it has to be like a trusted authority it could be university it could be government uh it could be the church okay anyone any other examples all right uh um that's fine let's yes ### 3:37:43 seg-0468 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0468` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0468](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0468) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13063s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13063s) cryptocurrency ### 3:37:44 seg-0469 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0469` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0469](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0469) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13064s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13064s) excuse me ### 3:37:45 seg-0470 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0470` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0470](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0470) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13065s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13065s) cryptocurrency can you explain well right the holy relic is in itself well if if cap you know if the richest people on the in the world agree that something is of value and you assign value to it you give it an authority the rest of society would follow similar to the holy relic right i assigned this relic i don't know i don't know if that makes sense right ### 3:38:08 seg-0471 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0471` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0471](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0471) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13088s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13088s) yeah so i i think your example is the very best okay because uh what's the equivalent of the church today it's universities right they have the most authority they're the people who they they are the most trusted institution and the fact that you know you just you just give them a donation they're going to uh fast track your child um if you follow the news stanford there's a huge case in stanford about this right um there are lots of examples okay but again yeah we'll never do this so all right right okay let's let's go like uh inferno 20 okay ### 3:38:50 seg-0472 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0472` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0472](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0472) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13130s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13130s) inferno canto 20 i must make verses of new punishment and offer matter now for canto 20 of this first canticle of the submerged i was already well prepared to stare below into the depth that was disclosed where tears of anguished sorrow bathed the ground in the valley circle i saw it i saw souls advancing mute and weeping at the pace that in our world holy processions take as i declined my head still more i saw that each amazingly appeared contorted between the chin and where the chest begins they had their faces twisted toward their haunches and found it necessary to walk backward because they could not see ahead of them ### 3:39:27 seg-0473 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0473` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0473](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0473) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13167s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13167s) okay all right so this is funny okay but like the punishment is that the people walk around and their heads are twisted backwards so they they only see behind them what was their crime in life or is their sin what what what what do they do this is ironic right these are people who are going to look behind them fortune teller exactly right these are fortune tellers these are people who lie to you who defraud you and tell you that you that they could see into the future and they will give you their future and um as punishment they can only look backwards um okay keep on going ### 3:40:13 seg-0474 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0474` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0474](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0474) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13213s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13213s) line 16 um perhaps the force of policy has so fully distorted some but that i've yet to see and i do not believe that that can be may god so let your reader gather fruit from what you read and now think for yourself how how i could ever keep my own face dry when i beheld my image so nearby and so awry that tears down from the eyes bathed the buttocks running down the cleft of course i wept leaning against a rock along that rugged ridge so that my guide told me are you as foolish foolish as the rest here pity only lives when it is dead for who can be more impious than he who links god's judgment to passivity lift lift your head and see the one for whom the earth was opened while the thebans watched so that they all cried and fieros where are you rushing have you quit the fight ### 3:41:04 seg-0475 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0475` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0475](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0475) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13264s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13264s) nor did he interrupt his downward plunge to minos who lays hands on every sinner see how he's made a chest out of his shoulders and since he wanted so to see ahead he looks behind and walks a backward path and so teresias who changed his mien when from a man he turned into a woman so totally transforming all his limbs that then he had to strike once more upon the two entwining serpents with his wand before he had his manly plumes again and erins is the one who backs against the belly of teresias erins who in loony's hails tilled by the carerese who lived below had as his home a cave among white marbles from which he could gaze at stars and sea with unimpeded view and she covers up her breasts which you can't see with her disheveled locks who keeps all of her hairy parts to the far side was manto who had ### 3:42:04 seg-0476 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0476` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0476](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0476) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13324s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13324s) searched through many lands then settled in the place where i was born on this i'd have you hear me now a while when manto's father took his leaf of life and bacchus's city found itself enslaved she wandered through the world for many years high up in lovely italy beneath the elves that shut in germany above torolo lies a lake known as banaco a thousand springs and more i think must flow out of the waters of that lake to bathe panino guard of valcamonica and in its middle is a place where three the bishops of verona brescia trento may bless if they should chance to come that way peschiera strong and handsome fortress built to face the brescians and the bergamasts stands when the circling shore is at its lowest there all the waters that cannot be held within the bosom of banaco fall to form a river running through green meadows no sooner has that ### 3:43:04 seg-0477 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0477` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0477](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0477) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13384s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13384s) stream begun to flow than it is called the mincio not banaco until governor where it joins the po it's not flowed far before it finds flat land and there it stretches out to form a fen that in the summer can at times be fed it and when she passed that way the savage virgin saw land along the middle of the swamp and tilled and stripped of its inhabitants and there to flee all human intercourse she halted with her slaves to ply her arts and there she lived there left her empty body and after what the people of those parts collected at that place because the marsh surrounding it on all sides made it strong they built a city over her dead bones and after her who first had picked that spot they called it mantua they cast there once were far more people in its walls before the foolishness of casolodi was tricked by the ### 3:43:59 seg-0478 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0478` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0478](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0478) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13439s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13439s) deceit of pinamonte therefore i charge you if you ever hear a different tale of my town's origin do not let any falsehood gull the truth and i oh master that which you have spoken convinces me and so compels my trust that others words would only be spent coals but tell me if among the passing souls you see some spirits worthy of our notice because my mind is spent on that alone then he to me that shade who spreads his beard down from his cheeks across his swarthy shoulders when greece had been so emptied of its males that hardly any cradle held the sun he was an augur and at all this he and calcus at the time to cut the cables his name's euripolis a certain passage of my high tragedy has sung its soul you know that well enough who know the whole the other there his flanks extremely spare was michael scott a ### 3:44:57 seg-0479 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0479` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0479](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0479) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13497s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13497s) man who certainly knew how the game of magic fraud was played see there guido bonatti see astente who now would wish he had attended to his court and leather but propense too late see those sad women who had left their needle shuttle and spindle to become diviners they cast their spells with herbs and effigies but let us go cain with his thorns already is at the border of both hemispheres and there below sevilla torches touches the sea last night the moon was at its full you should be a will well aware of this but there were times when it did you know harm in the deep wood these were his words to me meanwhile we journeyed okay so this is about ### 3:45:42 seg-0480 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0480` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0480](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0480) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13542s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13542s) the fortune tellers okay they are condemned to always walk with their uh head turned backwards so they can they can never see in front of them they're going to see behind them and dante spends a lot of time talking about all these uh fortune tellers and sages of integrity okay teresius is a really famous um fortune teller the most famous oracle in greek mythology uh the man who told or up um uh oedipus that he in fact did kill his father and slept with his mother okay tereseus why is donnie spending so much time on the fortune tellers what is this what is this problem with fortune tellers or oracles i mean isn't he an oracle sorry go ahead ### 3:46:40 seg-0481 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0481` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0481](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0481) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13600s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13600s) yeah i think that's why the bible speaks against all this kind of fortune telling is one of the biggest sins it's because you denied yourself a free will because once you have been given the oh or die or whatever and you're like oh you're gonna self -fulfill that prophecy so like whatever the fortune teller tells you kind of sets your path and you don't have the free will to live up your ### 3:47:00 seg-0482 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0482` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0482](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0482) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13620s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13620s) life anymore okay that's one possibility right um just to deny you free will right because if if you remember the story of um oedipus rex right he was told uh his father was told uh your your son will kill you and marry your wife he became so afraid that he abandoned his son or had his he tried to have his son killed which then set in motion this prophecy okay and then when um uh oedipus was adopted by another royal family in his uh teenage years he he heard this prophecy and he ran away from his father which then completed the prophecy because on the on the on his way to uh thebes he would get in conflict with his father with the king his father and kill him and then he'd go and solve the riddle of the sphinx and then which would allow him to marry his mother okay and become king of ### 3:48:07 seg-0483 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0483` - 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Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13726s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13726s) fortune teller if you become a famous fortune teller the net effect is you using the total amount of imagination that that you know your your population or your kind the people that you preach to have right it's restricting the level of creativity imagination that god ultimately wants ### 3:49:05 seg-0485 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0485` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0485](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0485) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13745s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13745s) to grow not shrink sure yes exactly and also a lot of these fortune tellers are doing for profit right they often do it to make money yes yeah because uh fortune tellers just keep telling you that ### 3:49:17 seg-0486 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0486` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0486](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0486) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13757s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13757s) everything is fake it's fixed you can't change so it means that there's no fair rail and uh you can't just choose what you want and you just listen so some people may be against this and people some people agree with that but whatever you agree or disagree uh the fortune telling just try to uh you know disturb you and change you change your your your original will okay yes uh anyone else have ### 3:49:43 seg-0487 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0487` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0487](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0487) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13783s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13783s) you guys did you remember um the book of um exodus when moses gets in a fight with the uh with the pharaoh and they have they have like this magic contest can you can you talk about that carol or ### 3:50:02 seg-0488 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0488` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0488](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0488) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13802s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13802s) is it when they were leaving and so they had to against the ten gods of the pharaoh is that what it is before they leave uh yes of the gods yes okay so basically moses was like yeah israelites have to go out of egypt and the king of egypt was i know when i say for you free labor so then they put up the contest between the gods so there were the 10 plagues so each plague was against each god ### 3:50:25 seg-0489 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0489` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0489](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0489) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13825s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13825s) the egyptians yes okay so there's actually quite a few of these contests in the bible okay the prophet to prove himself he must go to war with other fortune tellers with other diviners to prove that i am truly the messenger from heaven okay and to do that i want to show that every one of you is fake and false does it make sense so dante i mean there are many motivations but one major motivation is that dante is trying to prove that he is the ultimate prophet by showing that every other fortune teller is just a fraud okay does that make sense okay so ### 3:51:02 seg-0490 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0490` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0490](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0490) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13862s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13862s) then let me ask yes it's a part in the passage where dante actually has a for me he has a kind of an unusual reaction he feels kind of sad looking at the the creatures with their head ### 3:51:13 seg-0491 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0491` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0491](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0491) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13873s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13873s) backwards right yes but but that's dante's reaction to everyone right it's like i pity this okay and it goes back to the idea of aristotle like why is it important to watch theater like why is it important to go to theater and why is theater yes you see the tragedy of yourself in them yes exactly right this is part of something called the catharsis process he is in hell to purge himself of his fear and his pride and his anger and the way you do that is by spitting other people and this this is what creates the catharsis and allows you to be a new person ### 3:51:51 seg-0492 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0492` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0492](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0492) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13911s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13911s) i mean back to the lack of media right like initially dante called this lack of media was only afterwards that it was proven to be divine right right so i'm wondering if he's kind of worried too like if if this is i'm only doing like you know am i if i'm not fully channeling channeling the divine here will i end up in the same situation sure sure but but ### 3:52:14 seg-0493 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0493` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0493](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0493) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13934s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=13934s) he's pretty confident that that he is the true prophet okay otherwise he would not be writing uh the divine comedy um what proves that he is the true prophet to dante if you're a fortune teller and you predict some predict something right then that shows you are the true prophet but donnie doesn't do that so how does donnie prove he's the true prophet and he's able to convince a lot of people he's a true prophet how before the plague came well yeah well he died before the plague right the beauty of his poetry right does that make sense it's so beautiful that you move to tears and you are convinced that he must be the prophet right because otherwise how else could he have conjured up such beautiful poetry okay um let me ask you this question uh and it will end because we we've been going a long time um and we'll try to ### 3:53:24 seg-0494 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0494` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0494](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0494) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14004s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14004s) finish divine comedy uh in the next two days if so in our present day what kind of people will be condemned to hell with their heads um turn backwards and like i don't know the answer but i'm just curious as what who you might think would be condemned to hell with this sort of punishment i mean i don't know the answer i'm just asking you guys what who you think might deserve such a punishment we don't have fortune ### 3:53:54 seg-0495 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0495` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0495](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0495) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14034s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14034s) tellers today right but who what kind of people there are a lot of fortune tellers today actually fortune telling is quite involved now in asia and in china yeah yes i think fake news so like media ### 3:54:08 seg-0496 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0496` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0496](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0496) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14048s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14048s) newspaper like in a way to move public opinion so that it fulfills the prophecy that the media wants yeah yeah yeah yes people with an agenda i guess ### 3:54:20 seg-0497 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0497` - 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Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0499` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0499](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0499) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14112s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14112s) whatever the content that you put out if that is is it a net positive or net negative on on on on the imagination on people's ability to think for themselves right right and how and how would ### 3:55:25 seg-0500 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0500` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0500](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0500) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14125s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14125s) you differentiate between good and bad no no people's ability to think for themselves not ### 3:55:29 seg-0501 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0501` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0501](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0501) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14129s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14129s) necessarily good or bad right um right if i i i inject something with emotion and i try to push it push it push it force feed it to the larger population that's going to be similar to ### 3:55:43 seg-0502 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0502` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0502](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0502) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14143s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14143s) fortune teller right yes i think people are um people that are bad are those who trying to come trying to convince you into believing something without letting you even question it or um just letting just just without letting you know that you are being influenced by them um and your imagination is influenced or even narrowed down by them into believing something fixed that they want you to believe but um like you said uh that's why i think you are not this kind of person because you you never like don't let us to to to um imagine for ourselves and and um propose our own um arguments against or not against you okay well thank you for that any more comments yeah because ### 3:56:28 seg-0503 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0503` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0503](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0503) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14188s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14188s) i think hollywood always make a lot of films and all of the blockbusters just try to keep telling you some kind of the you know uh to predict the future for example like terminator or some kind of films like that avatar or you know maybe yeah ### 3:56:43 seg-0504 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0504` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0504](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0504) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14203s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14203s) okay that that that gives you a possible um explanation right not the not that they're like trying to convince you this is what's going to happen they give you a possibility so do you think that's also a fortune teller in a way that it okay all right so so so so i don't spend too much time ### 3:57:03 seg-0505 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0505` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0505](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0505) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14223s) on on this con on this idea and also i'll get into trouble because you guys will name names and then he'll interview me and he'll he'll like shout out me for an hour okay but like um we have looked at a list of a sliding decline okay are there any major things that are missing from this list that that you want to point out so for example the idea of a meritocracy which is an intense competition for few and fewer uh uh resources you have access and arrogance pride fraud you have the lack of social mobility lack of openness uh homosexuality incest among the elite right and ### 3:57:48 seg-0506 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0506` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0506](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0506) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14268s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14268s) it like extreme wealth inequality yes exactly great extreme wealth equality yes self indulgence self indulgence yes um not being able to express uh one's own opinions yes leadership exactly exactly that's very important yes i i wanna write this down okay policies men Jerseyhan yes yes that's faireng Gotcha that's very important yes that looks very make sense dollars yeah I'm not gonna get stainless steel if i lose some money then your poi ### 3:58:15 seg-0507 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0507` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0507](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0507) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14295s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14295s) um sorry censorship i mean the fact that when we talk about homosexuality um like you know i'm nervous about being cancelled on youtube right i'm being stoned to death at yale yes yes um increased ### 3:58:38 seg-0508 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0508` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0508](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0508) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14318s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14318s) yes i think censorship is a problem but um like in some well you can you can actually say whatever you want or like think whatever you want but the fact that you cannot change ### 3:58:53 seg-0509 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0509` - 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Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0510` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0510](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0510) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14385s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14385s) increased bureaucracy a power like bureaucrats having a lot of power ### 3:59:51 seg-0511 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0511` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0511](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0511) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14391s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14391s) yes okay yes maybe post -modernism so like the annihilation of all the trusted authorities before like the cancel culture movement yes it's ### 4:00:01 seg-0512 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0512` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0512](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0512) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14401s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14401s) post -truth yeah right you can't even talk about what's true or not uh yes i would say ### 4:00:14 seg-0513 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0513` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0513](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0513) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14414s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14414s) directed education so giving one definition of what it means to be successful exactly yes ### 4:00:21 seg-0514 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss@transcript:v1#seg-0514` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0514](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-p82v6uac9ss/transcript/#seg-0514) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14421s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82v6UAc9ss&t=14421s) a narrow definition of success yes uh yes degradation in the aesthetic standards okay great so i'm convinced we are totally screwed okay all right so that's it for today i'll see everyone tomorrow