--- title: "Dante #2 transcript" description: "Source-synced transcript archive for Dante #2." source_title: "Dante #2" published_at: "2026-06-18" source_class: "episode" public_url: "https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/" markdown_url: "https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript.md" text_url: "https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript.txt" source_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg" data_url: "https://jianglens.com/data/lens/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg.json" --- # Dante #2 transcript - Source: [Dante #2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg) - Published: 2026-06-18, day precision - Human transcript page: [/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/) - Episode page: [/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/) - Transcript Markdown: [/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript.md](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript.md) - Transcript text: [/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript.txt](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript.txt) - Episode JSON: [/data/lens/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg.json](https://jianglens.com/data/lens/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg.json) ## Transcript ### 0:00 seg-0001 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0001` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0001](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0001) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=0s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=0s) Good morning. We are live. So we read your comments yesterday, and there are three concerns. The first, the major concern is the sound quality. So Carol and her team are fixing that. Second is that there are parts of the video missing because of network issues. And so what Carol and her team are going to do is upload the complete version later today or whenever it's ready. And the third issue is the quality of the resolution, the resolution quality. Unfortunately, because it's a live stream, we have to lower the resolution in order to make it more smooth. But we will upload a higher quality version later on, okay? So thanks so much to Carol and her team for making. this possible. And so we are going to continue the live call meeting today. But before I begin, are there any questions or concerns from yesterday? Yes? ### 1:14 seg-0002 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0002` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0002](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0002) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=74s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=74s) So yesterday we got to canto four and five. My point is we were over four. And in four, I had this really big question. I had a question about the four. They showed themselves to here, not because this is their sphere, but as a sign for you that in the inferior in their place is lowest. So what I take this section to mean is that even though there's no difference in accommodations, so like there's a five star hotel, there's a four star hotel, and everyone goes to the five star hotel. However, there is a difference in prestige as in their place is lowest. So my question is, what is the difference? Is if there is no different difference in accommodations, then why does God divide them into casts of prestige? ### 2:08 seg-0003 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0003` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0003](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0003) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=128s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=128s) Okay, great question. Okay, so, um, first of all, we are beyond time and space. So everything is together. It's complete unity, unison. Okay, does that make sense? That's what one point two is that everyone is with God in the Imperium. That is what it is in reality, but to make it comprehensible to Dante and to us, um, Beatrice has constructed the heavens visually in a hierarchy. Okay, and then what is this hierarchy? This hierarchy is the amount of God that you receive in your soul. Okay, so you are all in heaven. You're all with God. With a certain souls that are able to receive the light of God greater than other souls, and that is what the hierarchy is like, the closer you are to God, the more you are able to receive his light, the more you are in communion with God, and what differentiates your ability to absorb God is your understanding of your relationship with God. ### 3:35 seg-0004 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0004` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0004](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0004) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=215s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=215s) Okay, so Riccarda is in the lowest sphere, because she thinks that she is unworthy of God, she is unequal to God, therefore, she must obey God, but that's not what God wants. God is all forgiving, all generous. He wants to come into you and become you, so you must welcome him. Riccarda is like, I'm not worthy, God. I am just a mortal. Okay. And so what's happened is, she's placed herself further from God, because she thinks she's not worthy enough to be close to the God. Okay, does that make sense? Okay, so that's what it is in reality. But for us to better understand this, they've constructed a hierarchy of spheres. And each sphere has its own distinct characteristics, as we'll see as we go along. All right. Any more questions or yes? ### 4:38 seg-0005 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0005` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0005](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0005) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=278s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=278s) Okay, so I was just rereading Canto 1 to 4, and there was a couple of lines in Canto 2 that caught my attention, because at least I found them to be very interesting, so I'm going to read it out to you guys. So from line 23 to 25, it should be, but in a span perhaps no longer than an arrow takes to strike, to fly, to leave. So ideally, I think the right order is first for the arrow to leave the bow. To fly, and then to strike. So why does Dante kind of like intentionally reverse this order during this part of the text? ### 5:19 seg-0006 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0006` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0006](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0006) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=319s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=319s) Okay, so first of all, we are beyond time and space, meaning that what's happening here in maybe our universe is just one second, or less than that. Okay, so everything's happening at once. And so he's trying to show you the speed at which things are happening, okay? Okay, can you explain that? I actually need, I don't have access to the line. ### 5:54 seg-0007 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0007` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0007](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0007) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=354s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=354s) Oh, it's in Canto 2, from line 23 to 25. ### 6:02 seg-0008 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0008` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0008](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0008) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=362s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=362s) Okay, line 23 to 25. ### 6:11 seg-0009 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0009` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0009](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0009) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=371s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=371s) Line 23 to 25. ### 6:16 seg-0010 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0010` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0010](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0010) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=376s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=376s) Okay, can you read it again? ### 6:19 seg-0011 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0011` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0011](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0011) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=379s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=379s) But in a span perhaps no longer than an arrow takes to strike, to fly, to leave the bow. I reached a place where I could see that something wonderful drew me. So I'm just like interested why Dante is reversing the order that typically an arrow shoots out from a bow. Because it should be, first it leaves the bow, then it flies, then finally it strikes. ### 6:52 seg-0012 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0012` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0012](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0012) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=412s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=412s) Okay, so this is poetry, and there are different conceptions, okay? But I think what he's doing is he's collapsing time. Does that make sense to you? Because as you say, the proper sequence of events is you first leave the bow, then you fly, then you hit your target, right? But then he's saying, I first hit my target, then I fly, then I leave. So I take this to mean the collapse of time. Does that make sense to you? Yes, we are in a place where time and space has collapsed altogether. Yeah, so there's no time and there's no space. Right, so there are, the most basic interpretation is that this is happening so fast that it's beyond perception. Do you understand? Because what we're seeing, it's human perception, right? It's the human logic. And what he's saying is that this is happening so fast, it's even beyond my perception. But another way to interpret this is it's happening. ### 8:08 seg-0013 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0013` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0013](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0013) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=488s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=488s) It's beyond your perception because it's collapsing time and space. Does that make sense, guys? ### 8:16 seg-0014 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0014` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0014](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0014) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=496s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=496s) Can I offer a thought? ### 8:18 seg-0015 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0015` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0015](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0015) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=498s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=498s) Absolutely. ### 8:20 seg-0016 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0016` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0016](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0016) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=500s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=500s) Yesterday, you put on your board where there's a will, there's a way. And so in a way, this reverse order kind of enunciates the importance of the aim and the goal first and then goes backwards. And yes, chronologically, it's different. But it's the... You know, this is inspired by commentary here, too. It's kind of how things actually happen because where there's a will, there's a way. And you start with the goal first, the end first, and then everything else proceeds. ### 8:56 seg-0017 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0017` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0017](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0017) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=536s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=536s) Okay. That's beautiful. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Okay, so again, there are multiple explanations, right? Good. Okay. ### 9:05 seg-0018 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0018` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0018](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0018) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=545s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=545s) Yes? Yes. So I hope to add to that because as I was... As I was biking home last night, I was listening to a book on Einstein, and the narrator connected it to Dante just coincidentally. And Einstein's working with space and time, and he had this kind of quip that said, time is what prevents everything from happening at once. And then they said, much like Dante's Paradise, where everything can and does happen at once. He didn't pull that line up specifically, but I think that's the answer that Einstein came up with. ### 9:37 seg-0019 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0019` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0019](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0019) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=577s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=577s) Yes. You know, I want to add to this point. I want to add to this point and point out that the greatest scientists, they were first and foremost poets. They were the ones who were willing to imagine a new reality, people like Newton and Einstein. So this is something that we've forgotten, where before, science was driven by the imagination, by intuition, by poetry, by the occult, by a desire to be closer to God. Right. So we've never gotten science into these logical processes that are compartmentalized. That's why, honestly, for the past 70 years, we've accomplished nothing. We've had no breakthroughs for these past 70 years. Any more questions before we begin? ### 10:41 seg-0020 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0020` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0020](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0020) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=641s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=641s) on mysticism and unreason so if dante is like almost a representative or a pioneer of the renaissance which is characterized in opposition to the middle ages which must therefore be comprised of reason and the light of reason and rationality why is dante's work why does dante's work emphasize intuition and imagination in such a way okay um so we'll talk about this ### 11:07 seg-0021 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0021` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0021](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0021) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=667s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=667s) today um but dante is very much a revolutionary he's gonna respond to limitations of his uh time and period and his major concern is that the catholic church is involved in geopolitics meaning that the catholic church is trying to be the empire it isn't like that because it obviously creates a lot of problems it creates a lot of wars um so dante's primary concern is that as an empire the catholic church is not focused enough on spirituality not focused enough on mysticism on their code it's more focused on temporal power on getting people to obey them and that's what's limited the imagination of medieval europe okay so we'll discuss this more this morning but um but does that answer your question for now okay because our conception of the middle ages is almost anachronistic okay we're looking from our lens okay but in my comedy we're seeing it from dante's lens all right uh question ### 12:27 seg-0022 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0022` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0022](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0022) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=747s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=747s) uh yeah so oh this is so one like ### 12:32 seg-0023 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0023` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0023](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0023) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=752s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=752s) overall question maybe for the book as well is um just i i still don't really understand how he came all of this like like did he k did it came to him like in a dream was it like multiple dreams and that he then he wrote them down or yeah like did he just imagine it on his desk like sitting on his desk or like walking in a park or something like i like how was it so and then so in -depth as well like i i don't understand that okay so there are two major themes ### 13:04 seg-0024 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0024` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0024](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0024) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=784s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=784s) today the first major theme is thompson's revolution against the catholic church okay what do we say about thompson's revolution against the catholic church okay one of the main themes today what are his concerns about the Catholic Church and what is he trying to change about the Catholic Church? Okay, that's the first major concern. Second major concern is how did he write this? Because this is a time without computers. This is a time where pen and paper are not that accessible, okay? And he published it, he published first the Inferno and the Purgatory and then Paradise. When you read the Divine Comedy it is pretty coherent, okay? It's almost like he first wrote everything down then he shaped the all three parts to be coherent to get to flow seamlessly. But we know for a fact that's how it happened. So the major question is how are you able to even before you write anything down ### 14:06 seg-0025 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0025` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0025](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0025) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=846s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=846s) how are you able to structure in a way that is masterful enough for online users to actually understand that question? And so I think very, mathematically perfect right so something that we will not probably discuss but something that we should discuss more is the mathematics the numerology of the divine comedy where there are three sections the first section is 34 contos second section is 33 third section is 33. that's because 33 is the age when Jesus died okay um 33 has a lot of occult um significance so this is like really weird how was able to even before I wrote anything down mathematically considered the entirety of the divine comedy and this is something that we will address throughout these two weeks because it's really a question of what really is our connection to the divine okay so something that i will argue to you today is that dante could have only written this if ### 15:16 seg-0026 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0026` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0026](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0026) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=916s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=916s) god exists okay if god doesn't exist and randomness randomness is what rules the universe there's no way he could have written this it makes absolutely no sense only if he is able to channel god the monad the source whatever you call it is he able to write this down okay and um when we really try to understand the vine comedy you will see that within it is divinity itself okay so so so this is a question that is the fundamental question we're trying to address these next two weeks okay but thank you for that any more questions before we begin okay good okay so yesterday we left off with uh picarda and the the picarda presents an experience of divinity and divinity itself okay so this is a question that is the fundamental question right now for us and we are going to go in deeper into this and we are going to listen to ### 16:19 seg-0027 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0027` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0027](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0027) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=979s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=979s) um we are going to go into the introduction of divinity because that's what the book is about divinity and divinity is so the first thing that i'm going to talk about is divinity in this video so let's see um the first thing is divinity itself those are just the examples of divinity so you can see that in the description of this video and in the description below there's a few words that i'm going to use to describe it again and again that we're going to talk about what it means to be a divinity so it's a pretty simple word you can use it for all kinds of things in the low sphere of paradise, okay? So she's in heaven, but it's the furthest from God. And Bonnie's like, this makes no sense. She did everything right. She did everything the Catholic Church told her to do. She followed her heart, and she ends up the furthest from God. ### 17:01 seg-0028 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0028` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0028](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0028) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1021s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1021s) And what we said is, it's because she did not actually practice her will. She did not show her true faith in God, right? And there are many things she could have done. She could have ran away. She could have threatened to kill herself. And so there are many things she could have done, okay? What I'm going to do now is go deeper into this story and show you how complex it is, all right? And then I want us to use our imagination or intuition to see what it's like to be a Christian. To figure out what the proper choice would have been, all right? So let me explain the situation, okay? All right, so let me set up for you. Okay, we know that Picarda has made a vow to God. I'm going to marry you, God. And what Beatrice tells us is that making a vow is a very serious thing. ### 18:13 seg-0029 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0029` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0029](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0029) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1093s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1093s) Making a promise is a very serious thing because, the greatest gift God has given you is your free will. And when you choose to surrender your free will as a gift to God, there's really nothing you can do to compensate for breaking this vow, okay? So Picarda, the issue is that she has a vow to God, all right? Now, her brother, and again, I don't know if this is historically true, but I'm going to create a scenario for you guys, okay? Her brother has a friend. And the two are trying to conquer Italy together. And they're in a battle, okay? And before this battle, the brother says to the friend, you know, Picarda's brother, if we win this battle, I swear to God that I will give you my sister as a bride, okay? So it's another vow, right? And they win the battle. So that's the situation, right? Picarda has run off to a night. ### 19:25 seg-0030 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0030` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0030](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0030) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1165s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1165s) Her brother is like, oh, okay, I swore to God that I would give my sister as a bride. Therefore, I'm obligated by God to do whatever I can to get her back, right? Because I made a vow to God. So now, let us think deeply, okay? And say, let's say for whatever reason, both Picarda and her brother have true faith in God, meaning they will do whatever they can to ensure they do not break their vow to God, right? So here we have Picarda saying, you know what? I am on the roof. If you come and get me from the nunnery, I will go jump off the roof and kill myself. I don't care what the Catholic Church says. Yes, I know it is the greatest sin in the world to commit suicide. I understand. But my vow to God is greater than the Catholic Church, okay? And then the brother is like, well, Picarda, I also made a vow to God. ### 20:38 seg-0031 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0031` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0031](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0031) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1238s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1238s) And God has given me victory in battle. And therefore, I cannot betray God. God has already given me the gift of victory in battle. So I must give you to my friend, okay? So now, what we're going to do is, we're here to imagine. We're here to imagine and intuition to figure out how, first of all, how this will play out. But also, what is the proper or right choice, okay? So here, Picarda is like, you know what? If you come and get me, I'm going to kill myself. What's the brother going to do? Yeah? ### 21:23 seg-0032 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0032` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0032](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0032) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1283s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1283s) Personally, I think, assuming that the brother has true belief in God, I think this hypothetical is a little bit weird because, as you mentioned before, our free will is our most precious gift from God. And the only person you can promise, you can surrender your free will to, is the person who gave it to you as in God. However, the brother here is playing God. The brother here is presuming on behalf of another to take away her free will. I know that in the Catholic Church, a wife swears obedience to her husband upon marriage. But this is the Catholic Church. This is not Dante's God. So how dare this brother, who has true belief in God, presume to strip his sister of her free will? ### 22:10 seg-0033 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0033` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0033](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0033) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1330s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1330s) Um, okay. Okay, I understand. But like, let's just play this game, okay? Let's just first use our imagination and play out this story, okay? Let's imagine we're writing a movie, all right? And this is going to be a great movie, by the way. So Picarda is like, I'm going to kill myself. What would the brother do? ### 22:32 seg-0034 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0034` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0034](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0034) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1352s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1352s) Well, I think, definitely, her brother is going to save him. Because the brother has a commitment with his friends. He needs to win the battle. So I believe in order to win the war, the brother will not allow her sister to die. That is why her brother is going to save Picarda if she wants to suicide. ### 22:53 seg-0035 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0035` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0035](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0035) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1373s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1373s) No, no, no, no. She's already dead. Oh, she's already dead? No, I'm saying like, you come into the comment. I'm going to choke myself. I'm going to throw myself off the roof. I'm going to kill myself. How can he possibly save her? Okay. All right. So here. What did he say? What he's going to do now is say, you know what, Picarda? I'm going to kidnap our mother. I'm going to kill her unless you come out of the comment and marry my friend, right? That's something he would do. Yeah. ### 23:18 seg-0036 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0036` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0036](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0036) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1398s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1398s) Why couldn't he just marry his own daughter or like another sister? ### 23:24 seg-0037 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0037` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0037](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0037) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1404s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1404s) Because he made a vow, right? He said before this battle, if we, he's saying this to his friend. I swear to God, if we win this battle, I will give you my sister Picarda. As your bride. Okay. So he's already made this vow. All right. So we are now, now the situation is the Duke presents their mother. Okay. And says, hey, Picarda, you want to come down here now? I'm going to cut off her head, right? ### 24:02 seg-0038 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0038` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0038](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0038) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1442s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1442s) He, he go gets another brother. No, no. Picarda go gets their father and then says, if you kill our mother, I will kill our father. ### 24:13 seg-0039 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0039` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0039](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0039) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1453s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1453s) Okay, guys, this is not how it works. Okay. So now it seems like Picarda has no choice, right? Because I mean, to kill yourself is one thing, but to end up killing yourself and your mother is something you cannot possibly do. So what she does now is surrender, right? ### 24:43 seg-0040 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0040` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0040](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0040) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1483s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1483s) But if she believes in the will of God, and if she has will, she will. If she has faith that God is standing on her side, she'll have faith that her mother won't die. So she'll still be standing on top. ### 24:58 seg-0041 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0041` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0041](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0041) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1498s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1498s) Okay. Let's just say she has complete faith in God. The correct choice would be to surrender. Why? ### 25:12 seg-0042 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0042` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0042](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0042) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1512s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1512s) Because it's not just her. It's her. It's her mother. So if it's just her, it's her choice to make. But if it's her mother, then. ### 25:21 seg-0043 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0043` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0043](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0043) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1521s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1521s) Okay. So this is hard. Okay. But I want you guys to imagine. It's really hard. But what's happened is the brother says, you either surrender, Picarda, or I will cut off our mother's head. Picarda is like, fine, I surrender. What happens to the friend now? ### 25:49 seg-0044 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0044` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0044](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0044) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1549s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1549s) I think he'll feel really bad about it. And maybe just like, can he withdraw from the vow and be like, release you from the vow? ### 26:01 seg-0045 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0045` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0045](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0045) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1561s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1561s) I think if you're that friend, it's very hard to go through the marriage, right? Yes. Because. What does the friend want to do? ### 26:09 seg-0046 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0046` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0046](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0046) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1569s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1569s) At first, he just wanted to get married. But now. ### 26:11 seg-0047 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0047` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0047](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0047) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1571s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1571s) But why do you want to get married? ### 26:16 seg-0048 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0048` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0048](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0048) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1576s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1576s) For alliance. Yeah. For power, right? ### 26:19 seg-0049 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0049` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0049](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0049) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1579s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1579s) Okay. So if you are a person helping on power and you see the scenario, you're like, screw this. I'm not getting married. Why would you do that? ### 26:29 seg-0050 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0050` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0050](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0050) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1589s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1589s) Because you're not gaining power. You're losing. ### 26:31 seg-0051 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0051` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0051](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0051) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1591s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1591s) You're losing all the power. Why? ### 26:36 seg-0052 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0052` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0052](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0052) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1596s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1596s) Not just that, but you're breaking that family apart, I guess. Yeah. You're not actually forming the alliance that you want. What would the people think of you? The mother slayer. ### 26:46 seg-0053 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0053` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0053](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0053) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1606s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1606s) Yes. And what would your soldiers think of you? Yeah. All right, cool. ### 26:52 seg-0054 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0054` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0054](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0054) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1612s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1612s) Yeah. Okay. ### 26:54 seg-0055 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0055` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0055](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0055) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1614s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1614s) So it's really interesting how you use your imagination and intuition. You just play this out. Okay. Yeah. ### 27:05 seg-0056 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0056` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0056](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0056) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1625s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1625s) But does the friend have a moral obligation to not go through with this? Like, would it be a moral thing for him to do? ### 27:13 seg-0057 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0057` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0057](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0057) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1633s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1633s) Right. So this is a moral dilemma, right? Because they've already made a vow to each other that if we win this battle, then I will marry Picarda, right? Okay. So this is the point here. The point is nothing in life is as simple as it seems. There's complexity. Okay. And this is a question like, given this hard choice, what do you believe to be the right choice and how do you come to this choice? And what Dante is saying is, just your faith in God will lead you to the right choice, right? So Picarda cannot possibly map out what's going to happen. So Picarda is like, I know it is wrong for me to break my vow to God. And if I break this vow to God, it's worse than my own life. Okay. So that's her faith. And the brother is like, no, I've already made this promise to my friend before God. I cannot break this vow. ### 28:20 seg-0058 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0058` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0058](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0058) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1700s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1700s) And therefore I have no choice but to up the ante, right? To gamble, basically. He's not really going to kill his mother, right? And Picarda knows in this situation where my mother's life is being threatened, I have no choice but to surrender because obviously my brother is so power hungry, he's willing to destroy the whole world, right? And when this happens, then God intervenes and implants ideas into people. And the friend's like, screw this, this guy is crazy. I probably don't want to get involved. All right. You understand? So the idea that Dante, the idea that this thought experiment shows us is you can never, ever truly strategize. You can never, ever truly map things out. Okay. Your best guide is you. Your best guide is your intuition. Your best guide is your faith and your will. And then things will naturally manifest the way you want them to manifest. Okay? ### 29:32 seg-0059 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0059` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0059](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0059) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1772s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1772s) Yes. ### 29:39 seg-0060 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0060` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0060](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0060) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1779s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1779s) Does that mean, so does that mean that if, as long as you have the faith in you, whatever you do the God will lead you to the result. ### 29:55 seg-0061 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0061` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0061](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0061) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1795s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1795s) Okay. As long as your faith, God will give you what you want. ### 30:02 seg-0062 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0062` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0062](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0062) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1802s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1802s) Okay. Okay. the faith in you um uh the the things you do and uh the god god will lead you to the right answer ### 30:14 seg-0063 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0063` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0063](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0063) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1814s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1814s) um okay so in dante in life there are no easy answers okay if i were to say to you how faith in god everything worked out that's irresponsible that's the wrong way to perceive things okay the major idea is that the world is extremely complex and often in life it's better to trust your intuition than to trust your logic it doesn't make sense your intuition comes from your connection to god which is an expression of your faith in god okay so when you say have faith in god what it's really saying is have faith in yourself have faith in your intuition do what you believe is right okay uh yes since we're on the topic of ### 31:24 seg-0064 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0064` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0064](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0064) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1884s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1884s) hypotheticals i would like to know if it's possible to be put into a situation where you have to betray a vow you made to god because you love god so for example say there is this monk who swore never to kill anyone and right there there is a man uh who is invincible to everyone except the monk like you know how hypotheticals work by this point and he's about to push a button that would destroy god so what would you do as a monk you love god so much you don't want god to be destroyed so you kill the man and you break your vow is a situation like ### 31:59 seg-0065 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0065` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0065](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0065) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1919s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1919s) this possible okay so the answer to this is what do you think is the right thing to do oh yeah so ### 32:13 seg-0066 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0066` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0066](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0066) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1933s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1933s) my question also just like her you know i think our people have their own perspective you can believe your own god i believe my god but it's their possibility that god is almighty god it means that it is truth everyone just for to looking forward to the one truth or is this people have their own you know imagination so this is my question so is there a kind of almighty god there or just the god which is our existence in individually you ### 32:40 seg-0067 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0067` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0067](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0067) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1960s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=1960s) know okay so in the divine comedy um the god that presented is not the god of the bible it's not the god that you know okay this is it this is in um platonic philosophy what is called the monad the source the center okay the soul of the universe we will go into what this god is later on okay okay so i'm not okay so what's really important is to appreciate that great poetry excites the imagination okay it raises questions for us to ponder and whatever problem arises ultimately you can't say hey what would you know uh my parent want me to do what would the catholic church want me to do you have to look inside your heart and ask yourself what does my heart want me to do and that's often in life your best guide to the answer okay does that make sense guys yeah ### 33:52 seg-0068 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0068` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0068](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0068) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2032s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2032s) so a follow -up question since you said in relation to my hypothetical that you should act as what you think to be right then we assume that the monk acted in what he thinks is right and he killed the man betraying his vow however because he act in the way that he thinks is right he still has the most of god in him and he went to the uppermost layer of heaven let's say that so what you are saying right now is picarda's actions don't matter that much she only has to forgive herself and rationalize her actions because if she rationalizes her actions as an act of love to god then she would be able to ascend ### 34:34 seg-0069 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0069` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0069](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0069) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2074s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2074s) beyond her lowest fear is that what you're saying okay so there is a fundamental um error in your logic and the fundamental error is that it is up to us to be able to rationalize away our sins okay that's what you're assuming we have the power to think away what we've done or rationalize away what we've done okay and um we don't and it's hard it's a hard concept to understand okay because you think that okay these people in history um who've killed millions of people people like stalin people like hitler people like dennis khan right well logically they did what they did because they felt it was right i have to save my people i have to um make my people happy and i that's why i need to start these wars okay that's what we think they think but what if you study literature what you recognize is that there are many different ### 35:56 seg-0070 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0070` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0070](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0070) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2156s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2156s) dimensions to the soul okay if you study literature what you recognize is that there are many different dimensions to the soul okay and maybe on the surface you can lie to yourself but in your heart in your true self you know exactly what the truth is okay okay so like because you're using logic you're using philosophy and sometimes it doesn't get you anywhere so so so um i will leave you with this idea which is do you know what happens when people take psychedelics or when they have near -death experiences Or they do meditation. Do you know what happens? Okay. The thing that happens is you are able to ascend to a level where you're able to see yourself from the lens of the person you've hurt. Does that make sense? You're able to see when you die or you're near death the totality of the pain you've caused the world. Okay. It's pretty amazing. ### 37:09 seg-0071 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0071` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0071](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0071) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2229s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2229s) But people who do psychedelics, ayahuasca, people who have near death experiences, they all say this. When this happens to you, when you actually ascend, when you leave your corporal body, the first thing that happens is something called a life review where you're able to see once and for all all the totality of the pain you've caused other people. Even that cat you kicked, okay, you're kicked. You can see it. And you're like, wait a minute. I don't even remember I kicked a cat. No, you're able to see it. Okay. All right. Does that make sense? So just because you think something doesn't mean it's all you're able to think. Okay. ### 38:01 seg-0072 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0072` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0072](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0072) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2281s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2281s) Wait, professor. So do you mean that if I meditate enough, I'll be able to kind of foresee the future and see who will win the 26th World Cup or something? I don't know. ### 38:16 seg-0073 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0073` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0073](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0073) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2296s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2296s) I don't accept that. ### 38:18 seg-0074 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0074` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0074](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0074) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2298s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2298s) Professor, do you mean that it's kind of butterfly effects? It means that I do something, but I don't mean to do something for other people. For example, maybe I just fell in love with a girl, but I don't know if there's another girl who doesn't love me, too. So it's got to hurt. All right. ### 38:33 seg-0075 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0075` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0075](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0075) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2313s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2313s) So let me rephrase it in a way, okay, is everything you do is being recorded by the universe. There is an eternal memory. There is an eternal memory of what you do in the universe. And this eternal memory is stored inside you as well. And even though you don't know this, even though you don't remember anything, when you die, after you die, this eternal memory will be revealed to you in its totality. The question for you is, do you want to... Okay. So let me rephrase it in a way, okay, is everything you do is being recorded by the universe. And if you see all the pain you've caused to other people, do you want to deal with that? Okay. And this is a truth that's embedded in all religions. And this is something that is also embedded in divine comedy. All right. So this is something that we will discuss later on. But I want you to remember this idea. ### 39:39 seg-0076 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0076` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0076](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0076) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2379s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2379s) Everything you do, first of all, it's being recorded by the universe. Second of all, everything you do impacts the universe in a certain way. Okay? So if you live a good life, this brings happiness to the universe. If you live a bad life, it brings sadness to the universe. ### 40:01 seg-0077 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0077` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0077](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0077) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2401s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2401s) Sorry, I have a question. So I'm curious about the relationship between this kind of memories and physical materials, matters. Where's your memory stored? Physical material? Yeah, where's your memory stored? In the brain. Are you sure? I am pretty sure. Have you talked to a neuroscientist? Yeah, actually, I'm curious in the philosophy of cognitive science. Okay. ### 40:27 seg-0078 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0078` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0078](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0078) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2427s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2427s) Someone Google for me. What evidence do we have that memories are stored inside the human brain? We have nothing. Google it for me. Yeah, go ahead. Evidence that the memories are stored inside the brain. Can you just read it, Carol? ### 41:04 seg-0079 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0079` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0079](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0079) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2464s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2464s) Okay. Memories are not video recordings stored in a single file. Instead, they're encoded. They're encoded by altering the physical connections, synapses, between neurons. When you learn something new, neurons form stronger or newer connections through a process called long -term potentiation. Anyway, NIH researchers uncover how the human brain separates, da -di -da -di -da, where are memories stored in the brain. Memories aren't stored in just one part of the brain. Different types are stored across different... ### 41:43 seg-0080 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0080` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0080](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0080) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2503s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2503s) We don't know, okay? This is all sunning garbage for, like, we don't know. Most basic question is, like, where are your memories stored? We don't know. Yeah? ### 41:54 seg-0081 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0081` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0081](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0081) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2514s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2514s) Technically, we do know. So, there's this very famous case of this person called H.M. He had his hippocampus was damaged, and so he no longer had long -term memory. And so, to some extent, through animal... Psych... Experiments, we can understand that memories, at least the function of memory, is supported by the hippocampus in relation with the cortex. ### 42:25 seg-0082 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0082` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0082](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0082) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2545s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2545s) Okay. So, that example, that case study, shows us that he cannot access long -term memory. Does that make sense? It does not prove that he no longer has long -term memory. It just means he lacks access to his long -term memory, right? ### 42:43 seg-0083 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0083` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0083](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0083) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2563s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2563s) It's that he... He was not able to form long -term memories, and he... ### 42:48 seg-0084 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0084` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0084](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0084) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2568s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2568s) No, but I'm saying, like, how do you know for sure he's not able to form long -term memory? It shows us he cannot access long -term memory, and it could be because he cannot form long -term memory, but it could also mean that there's a disconnection between his long -term memory and his consciousness, right? ### 43:05 seg-0085 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0085` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0085](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0085) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2585s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2585s) So, I have further questions. Like, if we assume that memory is not stored in brain, so what's the physical realizers of memory? Or if memory... Naturally, it's just physical realizers. So, what's the relationship between memories and physical materials? Okay. ### 43:24 seg-0086 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0086` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0086](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0086) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2604s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2604s) So, there have been recent neuroscientific studies that argue that our memory, our consciousness, is stored inside the universe, okay? So, think of the internet, and our brains are just smartphones that access the internet. So, our memories are stored on the cloud, and what our brains do is it accesses the cloud, yes? ### 43:53 seg-0087 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0087` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0087](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0087) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2633s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2633s) But how would you possibly explain the fact that, say, a person who can form long -term memory before, but he's getting older and older, and he got a part of his hippocampus degraded, and then he forgot a lot of things. He even forgot who he was. And how could you explain how hippocampus... How hippocampus, like a specific region in the brain, is not related to your memory? ### 44:18 seg-0088 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0088` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0088](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0088) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2658s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2658s) So, you have a computer, right? When you buy the computer, the internet connection is very smooth. You can download things really fast, right? Over time, as you use it more and more, the connection becomes worse and worse, because it's an old computer. It's the hard... ### 44:32 seg-0089 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0089` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0089](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0089) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2672s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2672s) Like, the hard drive in the computer was broken, or like, just with... ### 44:39 seg-0090 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0090` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0090](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0090) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2679s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2679s) War with time. Right. And there are different types of memory, right? There's memory you can store in your computer. There are memories... You can store on the cloud. There are memories you can access through other parts, right? ### 44:52 seg-0091 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0091` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0091](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0091) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2692s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2692s) And I want to add up to the psychedelic question you raised before. So, it's a chemical compound that actually... I studied neuroscience in college. It actually hits a certain receptor in your brain that cause, like, a downward signaling effect that makes you meditate, makes you trip, and all that. And this is a very physical or, like, chemical thing. But now you said the memory is not about this material thing, but rather related to the universe or some more spiritual kind of realms. How would you explain the differences? ### 45:31 seg-0092 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0092` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0092](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0092) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2731s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2731s) So, first of all, there are different psychedelics, right? And what is interesting is, depending on the psychedelic, you have different experiences. So, for example, if you're on ayahuasca, you'll see, like, demons. And... Yeah. Spirits floating around you. ### 45:48 seg-0093 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0093` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0093](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0093) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2748s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2748s) Like, the entities, yeah. I've heard of that. But the majority of psychedelics, they actually hit the similar regions or, like, at least the... Like, maybe they share 70 % of the same, like, 5 -HT2A receptors in your brain. That's the serotonin thing it hits. And, yeah, there are lots of different, like, psilocybin, like, LSD and all that. But the effects are more similar than... I mean, they're different. Would you agree? ### 46:20 seg-0094 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0094` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0094](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0094) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2780s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2780s) Okay. So, again, what's happening is that you're looking at the hardware issues, and you completely ignore the software. Does that make sense? You're like, okay, okay, this connection, this fiber optic connection, you are analyzing it and detailing it, how it works. But who cares? What matters is the information you're downloading. Why are you able to download certain information? When you take a certain psychedelic? And the argument is that our brains exist in order to anchor ourselves to this material world. We have to believe that this material world is what's real. Because if you just do... If your brain just can do whatever it wants, and it's able to access all the information on the internet, your computer is going to explode, right? Yeah. So, your computer has to be strategic about what information it... absorbs in order to navigate the world, right? Ultimately, you still have to survive. You have to get food, you have to get along with other people, you have to have sex, you don't have children, right? ### 47:28 seg-0095 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0095` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0095](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0095) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2848s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2848s) Yeah, and this is what it's... So, your brain is strategic in how it absorbs information, and then how it actually perceives this information, yes? ### 47:39 seg-0096 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0096` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0096](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0096) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2859s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2859s) It filters out a lot of information, but when you take... ### 47:41 seg-0097 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0097` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0097](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0097) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2861s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2861s) It filters out 99 % of all information. ### 47:42 seg-0098 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0098` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0098](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0098) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2862s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2862s) Yeah, and when you take psychedelics, it actually reopens the gate of receiving more information. That's right. ### 47:48 seg-0099 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0099` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0099](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0099) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2868s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2868s) You're now able to see all these different forces at work, including spiritual forces. And also, your ego is shutting down. Right, exactly. And so, your ego is shut down, and so you're able to see it from a more objective lens. Okay, does that make sense? So, that, you would say, is actually more objective. Okay, the point I will make is that the period we're living in today, in the year 2026, in China, it is a unique period in human history. If you go back to most of human history, okay, most cultures were animistic, shamanistic, meaning it was just assumed that there are ghosts and spirits all around you. ### 48:28 seg-0100 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0100` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0100](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0100) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2908s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2908s) Yeah, like trees have spirits, and animals have spirits, but now we just use that as resources for our own use. Right, do you understand? ### 48:36 seg-0101 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0101` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0101](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0101) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2916s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2916s) It's just weird to me how for the vast majority of human history, we just assume that the universe is conscious, that there is a god, that there are spirits all around us, and these spirits manipulate us, okay and like for the past 50 years we're like no it's just us and that's it and we don't we don't know how consciousness works we have absolutely no idea where memories are stored ### 48:59 seg-0102 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0102` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0102](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0102) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2939s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2939s) uh yes uh i want to add a comment so if the brain uh if the memory is storing the hardware is storing the brain as a hardware um there should be a upper limit but actually there's not a ### 49:17 seg-0103 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0103` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0103](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0103) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2957s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=2957s) upper limit exactly so we cannot possibly explain how we're able to have these conversations right like if in fact that the brain is like a computer and there are synapses then there should be a limit to the storage of the memory right but we know for a fact that there's certain people who can memorize paradise lost and recite it there are people who can memorize divine comedy and recite it excuse me hi right and and then we also know the human brain is able to take tremendous leaps of imagination which if if it were to translate into a computer would require like entire worlds of computer that processing power in order to make the imaginary leaps that we make right that's why ### 50:10 seg-0104 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0104` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0104](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0104) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3010s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3010s) i think a full reductionist view of the human brain and that the relationship between the physical and spiritual is is um um not not ideal because yeah we i i mean i study neuroscience i know that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the spiritual part about it so so again i go ### 50:34 seg-0105 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0105` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0105](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0105) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3034s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3034s) back to divine comedy okay if god doesn't exist i have no idea how this was written if god does not exist i don't know how this was written i just don't how could one man over the course of 20 years without any computers by himself okay like literally by himself in his room he's able to conceive all this and then almost a thousand thousand years later we're able to sit down together and read it and understand completely what he's trying to convey and knowing that we find what he's trying to convey beautiful and ### 51:14 seg-0106 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0106` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0106](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0106) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3074s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3074s) truthful how does that work uh professor uh is it that possible that just like people right now just to get smoking get drinking the nicotine or even the marijuana which just can inspire people to get a high so that they can make a good use of their brain for other people maybe a number of people that could only have 30 percent of their brain but you can just make yourself about a ### 51:37 seg-0107 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0107` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0107](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0107) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3097s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3097s) hundred percent or maybe is it possible okay all right so um i mean the reality is that we don't have a dante in this age when we have access to all the words information when we have unlimited wealth i mean compared to dante we're all kind of stupid i don't understand how this works okay all right so so let's let's continue the divine comedy okay one last comment and then we'll continue ### 52:17 seg-0108 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0108` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0108](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0108) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3137s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3137s) the vine comment okay so i think uh in this discussion i think it's really important to separate the inside from the outside so if you're talking about the inside if you're talking about the literary genius of the divine comedy then i absolutely agree with what you said i think it's an amazing work and i think if you're talking about god in the context of the divine comedy then i absolutely agree with everything you said about divine inspiration however if you're going to take this to uh outside if you're going to take this to our present day if you're going to take this to our brains our neural plus plasticity then i have to say that i am not convinced by your arguments because i personally do not believe in god and because many others do not believe in god and i think it's kind of it's kind of weird that we're trying to take an ### 53:02 seg-0109 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0109` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0109](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0109) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3182s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3182s) argument from divine ### 53:03 seg-0110 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0110` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0110](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0110) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3183s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3183s) comedy outside into our present -day science okay so this is a class um of speculation of inquiry of debate okay so um you can believe whatever you want all right anyway let's let's continue okay ### 53:21 seg-0111 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0111` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0111](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0111) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3201s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3201s) uh carol could could you continue to read please sure um we're picking up at kanto five line 43 um paradise two things are of the essence when one bows a sacrifice the matter the matter of the pledge and then the formal compact one except this last can never be annulled until the compact is fulfilled it is of this that i have spoken to you so precisely therefore the hebrews found it necessary to bring their offering although as you must know some of their offerings might be altered as for the matter of the vow discussed above it may be such that if one shifts to other matter one commit no sin but left but let none shift the burden on his shoulder through his own judgment without waiting for the turning of the white and yellow keys and let him see that any change is senseless unless the thing one sets aside can be contained in ### 54:31 seg-0112 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0112` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0112](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0112) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3271s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3271s) one's new weight as four and six thus when the matter of a vow has so much weight and worth that a tip every scale no other weight can serve as substitute okay so the idea ### 54:44 seg-0113 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0113` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0113](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0113) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3284s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3284s) here is that take your vows seriously so uh in our book the human condition hannah rand said that there are two actions okay that make us fundamentally human there are two things that we do in order to make us fundamentally human the first is to make promises okay because when you make promises what you're doing is you're bonding yourself to another person but you're also bonding yourself to the future you're imagining together a future okay does that make sense so making promises is a very very serious thing that only humans can do and which expresses our humanity but then there's another thing do that makes us fully human and which expresses our humanity do you guys know what it is number one is to make promises what's the other bringing promise is not a good thing but but that's half the answer swear huh swear that's that's making a promise what's the other thing that ### 55:56 seg-0114 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0114` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0114](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0114) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3356s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3356s) makes us truly human which expresses our humanity which uplifts our humanity language speaking love the animals can speak animals can love gratitude art and imagination uh no what yeah i would have said to create things no there's there's something else that's that makes us uniquely self -reflection ### 56:25 seg-0115 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0115` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0115](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0115) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3385s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3385s) self -reflection yeah maybe language like a developer an action guys think of an action ### 56:33 seg-0116 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0116` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0116](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0116) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3393s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3393s) that you do with people not by yourself but with other people the first to make promises right making promises promises to affirm your individuality with another person and to imagine a better future ### 56:45 seg-0117 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0117` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0117](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0117) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3405s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3405s) maybe to lie but it doesn't uplift but it's something that humans yeah lying is a bad thing ### 56:52 seg-0118 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0118` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0118](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0118) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3412s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3412s) something that is truly divine that we that we can do can i say yes sacrifice uh sacrifice ### 57:00 seg-0119 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0119` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0119](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0119) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3420s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3420s) what do you mean by that um the giving of oneself for another person's good but and conveniences ### 57:12 seg-0120 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0120` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0120](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0120) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3432s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3432s) and potentially hurting oneself okay all right that's close but it's it's actually much more specific specific than that okay okay something good okay all right all right it i mean it's something that happens every day right so for example um we're walking on the streets okay i don't see you i'm i'm walking really fast so i bump into you and you fall down right and i say i'm sorry i'm sorry you apologize okay and you forgive you understand these are the two things that make us truly human to make promises and to forgive each other for breaking promises or for making mistakes okay so this is a really important idea because you ask yourself what makes a good society what makes a just and happy society and it sees two things if people feel empowered to make promises and if people feel empowered to forgive each other because often guys it's hard to forgive each ### 58:21 seg-0121 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0121` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0121](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0121) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3501s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3501s) other then this is a good just moral divine society okay does that make sense all right so um we as humans should strive to create a society in which we can make promises and we can forgive each other okay all right um so making promise is a very big thing and what features are saying is that sometimes you make a promise that is so valuable that you can never compensate for it okay and the example she uses picarda makes a promise to god okay and there's something she could do to compensate for this but she also recognizes that nothing in your universe is absolute and so she's going to explain that the situation is much more complex than we think okay can you can you can you read ### 59:23 seg-0122 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0122` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0122](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0122) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3563s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3563s) please sure um paradise canto 5 line 64 let mortals never take a vow in death be faithful and yet circumspect not rash as jephthah was in offering his first gift he should have said i did a miss and not done worse by keeping faith okay okay this is really interesting okay does anyone know who jephthah is? ### 59:47 seg-0123 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0123` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0123](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0123) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3587s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3587s) okay okay this is really interesting okay does anyone know who jephthah is? okay okay this is really interesting okay does anyone know who jephthah is? okay all right so let me tell the story of jephthah this is in the bible and it's in the book of judges okay and jephthah he's he's obviously a leader of the israelites okay the leader of the israelites and he goes to war he goes to battle and he says dear god i swear to you if i win this battle if you let me win this battle i will give you as an offering the first person to walk in my door okay right he's made this vow to god and according to beatrice if you make this vow to god you must keep it who's the first person so he wins this battle okay and who's the first person that walks in the door in his house you guys know ### 1:00:35 seg-0124 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0124` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0124](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0124) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3635s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3635s) his daughter his daughter he's completely screwed now right so what does he do according to the bible well yeah she he kills the daughter okay according to beatrice is this good or bad no it's not a gray area what did you say does she literally say and and what you should have said i didn't miss and not done worse by keeping faith he should have broken the vow she said wake that vow man i don't care if you make that out of god you get to kill your daughter don't keep that vow man so this is a paradox ### 1:01:34 seg-0125 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0125` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0125](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0125) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3694s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3694s) right someone someone help me understand this paradox it would seem that like bit uh picardo has up in the bottom level of heaven because she's she had fear in her vow so she didn't she didn't complete her vow with 100 total faith and so here he's he's putting himself in in some sort of lower level or even maybe out of heaven i'm not sure but he's never going to get the higher levels of heaven because he's he's not taking his bow seriously but it was a vow that he could never commit um it seems to be jevin ### 1:02:18 seg-0126 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0126` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0126](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0126) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3738s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3738s) is a reference okay she's just talking and she she's explaining to dante um take your vows seriously and don't be like jetta but that's a paradox because jeff did take his mouth seriously right so someone explained to me the the reasoning here i do you understand it's a paradox she said take your vows seriously and don't be like jetta who did take his mouth seriously uh yes you then you okay yes i think taking it seriously ### 1:02:51 seg-0127 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0127` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0127](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0127) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3771s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3771s) is understanding the the weight of the vows you make that when you make a value you like you know taking vows seriously and don't simply make the wrong vow and make the vows in haste okay yes yeah ### 1:03:05 seg-0128 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0128` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0128](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0128) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3785s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3785s) i agree it's the same it doesn't it doesn't help me understand the paradox here there's a paradox ### 1:03:11 seg-0129 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0129` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0129](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0129) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3791s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3791s) yes so what i'm trying to say is i think that god uh god instituted all this understanding into us so that we will be able to follow his rules so as i mentioned before like the first time when we when we were doing the hypothetical about picarda i mentioned that if you truly believe in god then you should truly respect god's gifts and you should truly respect god's most precious gift which is free will so maybe god instituted this understanding into us so that we will be able to not make promises such as this it's like it's like prevention it's like a vaccine it's like a prevention shot is that possible i still don't ### 1:03:49 seg-0130 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0130` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0130](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0130) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3829s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3829s) understand what you're trying to say explain it to me paradox where peter said take your vows seriously and don't be like jetta who took his vows too seriously it's a paradox uh no sorry we uh you you first could this be like a jab at the catholic church yeah well everything donnie does is a jab at the catholic church but but yeah can you explain ### 1:04:15 seg-0131 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0131` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0131](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0131) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3855s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3855s) well just saying that obviously there was jet from the from the bible and the he obviously followed through with this vow but used sort of zero uh circumstance circumspect and rationality to look back and realize that it's wrong and maybe at the time of writing a lot of religious people would have taken more that view but he's showing ### 1:04:36 seg-0132 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0132` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0132](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0132) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3876s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3876s) that you need to sort of have more tact okay uh yes well my answer would be that um hannah erin said that like the first thing is what makes us human is to make promises and then the second thing was to forgive forgive ourselves and this is probably to forgive ourselves is more important than making promises so what jeff should have done is just forgive yourself forgive himself for breaking the promise yes that's right so that's what beatrice wants like just ### 1:05:08 seg-0133 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0133` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0133](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0133) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3908s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3908s) jeffa you didn't make a promise but you did it in you did it rashly right so just forgive yourself and not kill your daughter man yes ### 1:05:20 seg-0134 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0134` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0134](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0134) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3920s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3920s) so i think that we should understand this by looking at like all the three work stuff dante infernal first and i think that in infernal if you uh commit like treachery against kin that's not just you know murder and that's that that doesn't mean that you just belong to the seventh circle you get put like way lower yes so um i think that this is kind of what beatrice is kind of saying so like compared to breaking a vow like if you kill your daughter you're gonna end up like farther away from god you're gonna end up in hell well if you break maybe a promise you will probably end up like the card so that is still much better than ending up in hell but why is treachery so bad ### 1:06:05 seg-0135 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0135` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0135](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0135) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3965s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3965s) why why would treachery be worse than breaking a vow to god i think it's like the violence of it ### 1:06:13 seg-0136 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0136` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0136](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0136) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3973s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3973s) all and also because they are like your own flesh and blood so you know that would be kind of gruesome ### 1:06:22 seg-0137 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0137` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0137](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0137) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3982s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=3982s) so um so so let's let's do the hypothetical where okay the problem is that jetfa um had to kill the daughter okay let's just say okay the person coming in the door is not the daughter but the ant now it's okay right now it's okay because it's not the dog it's the end let's let's kill the end ### 1:06:52 seg-0138 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0138` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0138](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0138) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4012s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4012s) i think he would if he would kill the ant then like he would probably still end up like in the ### 1:06:57 seg-0139 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0139` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0139](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0139) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4017s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4017s) seventh circle or lower i think so as well okay so so now it's not the end it's the neighbor ### 1:07:03 seg-0140 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0140` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0140](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0140) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4023s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4023s) okay now right no actually actually in inferno if you kill your neighbor you also okay you're still ### 1:07:08 seg-0141 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0141` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0141](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0141) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4028s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4028s) bad okay let's give you the daughter okay how about i don't know stranger yeah the stranger that's still murder that's still so no matter who he kills okay he's still going to hell right so so what's going on here you say flesh and blood but it's not flesh and blood blood and it's not treachery but especially in this case yeah but in this case because it's ### 1:07:36 seg-0142 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0142` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0142](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0142) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4056s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4056s) flesh and blood that's why it's so bad that's why he is like the key example that i understand but ### 1:07:42 seg-0143 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0143` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0143](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0143) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4062s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4062s) i'm saying like let's just switch and say it's not the daughter let's just say it's a complete stranger is it okay now okay all right okay so this is hard okay okay so what i'm gonna do now is i'm i'm gonna present a hypothetical okay and let's just say i um i have a wife and i love my wife okay my wife says to me if you truly love me you will go steal a million dollars from the bank so i can buy a porsche okay this is just hypothetical my my wife would never do that what's my response now if you truly love me you go and steal a million dollars from the bank and buy me a porsche uh is it possible about a sabotage ### 1:08:40 seg-0144 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0144` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0144](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0144) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4120s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4120s) i mean just you love me so happy to do something for me is it kind of the excuse is because you ### 1:08:45 seg-0145 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0145` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0145](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0145) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4125s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4125s) want to take control over you is it possible what is my proper response my my so you're saying my response should be you know what um i'll go rob a bag and buy some jewelry is is like what's what's ### 1:08:59 seg-0146 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0146` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0146](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0146) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4139s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4139s) my proper response you should say if you really love me and you can't force me to to buy for you ### 1:09:13 seg-0147 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0147` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0147](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0147) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4153s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4153s) to buy something for you okay okay all right all right okay so so this is really key to understand it down here okay so my wife says to me if you truly love me you will go rob a bank and buy me a porsche right or go start a business and make a billion dollars and so you think i should go go and make a billion dollars to show my wife show my love my love to my wife does that feel right to you what's the right thing for me to just to do here ### 1:09:53 seg-0148 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0148` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0148](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0148) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4193s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4193s) yeah because it's to investigate why she would make such a request and try to get to the truth ### 1:09:58 seg-0149 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0149` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0149](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0149) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4198s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4198s) at all yeah so i asked her like do you really want to do it just yes i really want you to do it i'm still stuck right maybe just yeah sorry who who okay maybe just leave her i should leave her ### 1:10:19 seg-0150 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0150` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0150](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0150) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4219s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4219s) yeah because that that does mean that she doesn't actually love you because the real ### 1:10:24 seg-0151 - Speaker: SPEAKER_14 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0151` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0151](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0151) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4224s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4224s) love is unconditional yeah actually yeah yeah it's like i'm probably gonna hold a similar opinion maybe we just leave her because uh because like based on the plato's cave theory like you mentioned in the in the video and i think if she just cannot know what happens beyond the mirror then and we never can wake up a person that do not want to be awake you know so we will possibly just leave her and find someone else that we have like similar similar opinion yes yes yes yes i was just saying you say ### 1:11:06 seg-0152 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0152` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0152](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0152) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4266s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4266s) yes okay all right so all right this is hard okay but the right decision the right course is just to walk away from her right because the logic is this if she's making you this request like if you truly love me go steal me a million dollars right well first of all she doesn't love you right she can't possibly love you if she's making this request because if you go rob a bank they're going to put you in prison right you're not going to get them you're not going to go by the car you're gonna go to prison okay that's number one number two is if she doesn't love you right you being with her is wrong you understand so you should just let her you truly love her you should let her go fight someone who's right for her does that make sense okay so this goes back to this case where zeta is ### 1:12:07 seg-0153 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0153` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0153](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0153) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4327s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4327s) saying i love god so much that i'm willing to give him my first daughter and god's like that's not what i want man i don't want this crap from you you understand so what faith is is first and foremost understanding the nature of god you understand god is first and foremost love and when you kill your daughter you it's an act of treachery which degrades love in the universe so you are not obeying god you're betraying god you understand does that make sense if my wife would say go rob a bank to give me a million dollars okay i have to say to her no it's because i love you that i'm not going to do this if i go rob a bank to give me a million dollars i'm not going rob the bank it's only because i want to possess you it's only because i want to control you and that's an act ### 1:13:17 seg-0154 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0154` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0154](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0154) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4397s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4397s) of betrayal of love okay does that make sense okay so the paradox can only be resolved if you understand that the nature of god is love itself and because god is love itself because god loves you unconditionally god would never ever ask you to hurt someone or betray yourself it doesn't make sense and so when you make this vow i promise you god that if i win this battle i will i will kill the first person who walks in the door god's gonna ignore you okay you understand i don't care no one cares if you make this promise god's gonna give you make this promise god's just gonna ignore you because it came through rashness it was because you don't understand god okay you don't understand god there's no connection there's no way you can make this vow yes and that's exactly what i mean what i meant to say ### 1:14:18 seg-0155 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0155` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0155](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0155) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4458s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4458s) so if you truly understand god that you would never make such a vow it's like a vaccine god has put it put uh put in us the understanding that we would not make such a vow that's the vaccine to prevent us from something doing something like this okay yeah but then why do people make these vows because because they have not taken the vaccine because because they have not been in contact with god therefore such a vow is ungodly how do they break their connection ### 1:14:43 seg-0156 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0156` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0156](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0156) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4483s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4483s) to god ### 1:14:43 seg-0157 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0157` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0157](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0157) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4483s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4483s) by understanding themselves more fully like i'm like i said god made provisions for us and it's up to us to discover these provisions it's up to us to make ourselves his vessel is that what you're ### 1:14:56 seg-0158 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0158` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0158](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0158) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4496s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4496s) saying no no no i'm saying like how did we lose our connection to god you're saying we lost our connection to god but how do we lose it because why we why we lose it it makes no it makes no ### 1:15:08 seg-0159 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0159` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0159](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0159) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4508s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4508s) sense like because we have free will as you mentioned before whether or not to lose our connection to god ### 1:15:19 seg-0160 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0160` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0160](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0160) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4519s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4519s) did why did jephah make this make this vow why did jephah make this vow what's the reason yes i think ### 1:15:30 seg-0161 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0161` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0161](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0161) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4530s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4530s) he was in the really hard to win battle and he wanted god to really help him he wanted power ### 1:15:35 seg-0162 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0162` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0162](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0162) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4535s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4535s) yeah you understand yeah he wanted power and that's what moved him away from god you understand when you want power when you want worldly power that's what severes connection to god you've always had it but you lose it when you want power okay all right uh can you can you read ### 1:15:57 seg-0163 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0163` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0163](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0163) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4557s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4557s) uh carol can i can i ask yes and before we move on so life seems to be fraught with minefields of vows that people can make on your behalf so we've got picarda's brother has made a on her behalf and i understand she ends up in the bottom level of heaven essentially because she had 90 faith instead of 100 faith you and she was a bit fearful but so jephah's daughter is a has this vow essentially bestowed upon her and you said that god ignores vows when they're made incorrectly like sinfully or ungodly or getting the wording wrong but that there is some connection here with picarda and her brother because the vow was made for power there as well and her place in heaven suffers because of this whole seemingly situation so i guess maybe my my question is getting toward like where would jephah's daughter be in the hierarchy of would she end ### 1:17:07 seg-0164 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0164` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0164](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0164) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4627s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4627s) up in the inferno because submitting to her father's death would be like a form of suicide that's a really interesting ### 1:17:16 seg-0165 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0165` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0165](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0165) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4636s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4636s) question yes okay so um sorry why would jephah be infernal they're not in paradise do you guys know why okay yeah i i understand your question okay but i don't know why you guys are not in paradise like first my first question is you guys know where jeffa would be in inferno he's actually not uh so where would jeffa be in in in in divine comedy which which level inferno purgatory or um paradise but why inferno he killed his daughter no he's actually inferno because he's not a christian okay uh he's inferno because um he was born before the time of jesus therefore he could not become a christian therefore he cannot access heaven okay that's point one point two is where would jeffa's daughter be you guys know purgatory why purgatory ### 1:18:30 seg-0166 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0166` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0166](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0166) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4710s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4710s) and not anyone else um i mean following that logic um has not known jesus but um not knowing how she has acted in her own life i'm just assuming that she has not killed anybody else and so this is um she was killed against her presumably against her own will and even if it's her will ### 1:18:56 seg-0167 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0167` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0167](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0167) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4736s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4736s) she was the victim yes who's the hero of the story who's the hero of the story if you read the bible who's the hero of the story the daughter the daughter but why the daughter ### 1:19:10 seg-0168 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0168` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0168](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0168) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4750s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4750s) um because she understands the importance of the vow she wants to keep it despite that she ### 1:19:17 seg-0169 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0169` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0169](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0169) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4757s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4757s) has to sacrifice herself yes okay if you read the bible it's clear because she's the daughter because she's willing to sacrifice herself to deserve a father keeps kipps about right because if you read the hebrew bible the worst thing you're gonna do is not give your vow to god uh so she would actually be in paradise yeah okay does that make sense so this is a this is a paradox of divine comedy where there's a rule that if you're not a christian you are not you can't be in paradise you can Only Be be in purgatory or in inferno but because of the nobility of her sacrifice she gets elevated to paradise okay right and so it doesn't largely make sense but it makes intuitive sense does ### 1:20:05 seg-0170 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0170` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0170](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0170) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4805s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4805s) that make sense yes where you said the sacrifice the daughter made a sacrifice okay the story is ### 1:20:14 seg-0171 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0171` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0171](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0171) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4814s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4814s) this okay the story is that jetba to win a war because he's leader of the israelites okay and israelites have lots of enemies uh because it's the middle east right and they win this battle um but before the battle jetba says if i win this battle i swear to god i will offer a sacrifice whoever walks in my door okay he makes this vow he goes home the first one to walk in the door is his daughter now he's screwed okay because either you kill your daughter you you or you defy god right so he is completely ugly screwed so what the daughter says is father let me make my own offering let me sacrifice myself willingly so that it absolves you of the guilt of killing me and it allows you to fulfill um your promise to to god and why this is worthy of paradise is it is an act of love because ### 1:21:21 seg-0172 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0172` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0172](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0172) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4881s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4881s) it is completely selfless you understand right and when you commit acts of love you are elevated to uh paradise okay is that clear guys ### 1:21:41 seg-0173 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0173` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0173](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0173) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4901s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4901s) so you mean willing is is the necessary if it can be you know up level into the paradise excuse me the reading means because you said if you will to die it means that you can go to paradise is that what it is ### 1:21:55 seg-0174 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0174` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0174](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0174) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4915s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4915s) mean no no i just said a selfless act of love is what elevates you to paradise not the will not the desire but the action itself that's driven by the will and desire yes but there should be acts of love before christianity no that's why she's in heaven she's not a christian she's a hebrew she doesn't believe in jesus but if god could put her anywhere god would put her in paradise okay in fact when we read what you will discover is there are quite a few pagans in paradise okay so this is subversive because the rule is unless you're a christian you can't go to paradise you read divine comedy there are there are some pagans in paradise okay does that make sense uh ### 1:22:48 seg-0175 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0175` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0175](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0175) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4968s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4968s) yes isn't offering herself some sort of suicide and isn't that the sin um yeah the catholic church ### 1:22:58 seg-0176 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0176` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0176](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0176) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4978s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=4978s) uh for the catholic church suicide is a sin but these are the hebrews these are these are the israelites okay so this is a different cultural context and it's not really uh yeah okay does that make sense all right okay all right let's so carol can we keep on going okay paradise canto 5 ### 1:23:22 seg-0177 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0177` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0177](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0177) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5002s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5002s) um line 67 he should have said i did amiss and not done worse by keeping faith and you can find that ### 1:23:30 seg-0178 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0178` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0178](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0178) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5010s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5010s) same stupidity so so you see the paradox in the sentence right doing worse by keeping faith ### 1:23:36 seg-0179 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0179` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0179](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0179) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5016s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5016s) doesn't make any sense right keep on going and you can find that same stupidity in the greeks chief when her faith when her fair faith made fb jennia grieve and made the wise and made the foolish weak for her when they heard tell of such a right okay so this is also a really interesting story okay ### 1:23:58 seg-0180 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0180` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0180](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0180) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5038s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5038s) so she's saying that there are two really stupid people in this world first is jetba the other is agamemnon okay so uh this is trojan war and what starts with trojan war of course is that paris of troy steals helen of sparta and so helen is the most beautiful woman in the world and all the greeks fight for helen and it seems like a war is about to break out among the greeks and so what the greeks decided to do is you know what will just happen it is a total war and whoever wins will marry helen and everyone else is obligated to fight for helen if someone tries to steal helen it doesn't make sense it's an oath before the gods and so helen marries manolos uh the brother of egemenon and the king of sparta then paris steals helen and now the greeks are obligated by this all to go and destroy Troy ### 1:25:04 seg-0181 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0181` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0181](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0181) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5104s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5104s) and this is what starts the Trojan War and Agamemnon is the leader of the Greek army so the Greeks assemble this huge fleet off the coast of Greece and they're about to sell the Adriatic and war against Troy the problem is that Agamemnon kills like a secret animal to Artemis the goddess of the hunt and Artemis gets angry and says screw you you Greeks aren't going anywhere and she destroyed she so there's no more wind okay so the Greeks are stuck where they are so Agamemnon is like no we need to go to Troy because of this oath to the gods and he talks to the prophet and says what can I do to restore the winds and the prophet says if you kill your daughter Iphigenia Artemis will be appeased okay so the so Agamemnon kills Iphigenia even though Iphigenia is extremely popular among the people and it's also like his daughter okay so ### 1:26:15 seg-0182 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0182` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0182](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0182) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5175s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5175s) this was stupid and ultimately if you know the story of um the uh Greeks what happens to Agamemnon because he killed Iphigenia you guys you guys know the story yeah I think Iphigenia's mother Clytemnestra ### 1:26:39 seg-0183 - Speaker: SPEAKER_00 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0183` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0183](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0183) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5199s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5199s) um revenged on him ### 1:26:42 seg-0184 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0184` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0184](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0184) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5202s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5202s) If your daughter were killed by your husband, what would you do? You'd probably go kill the guy, okay? Cladomestrua plots this vengeance against Agamemnon. And so when Agamemnon comes home, Cladomestrua kills him for killing Iphigenia. Okay? So could Agamemnon have known this? Could Agamemnon have predicted this? Probably, okay? So this is why it's stupid, right? Okay, so just, I understand it's important to keep your vows to the gods, but, like, what Mishra is saying is, like, use your brains, people, okay? All right? So Jephthah was stupid. Agamemnon was stupid as well. Okay, keep on reading, Carol. ### 1:27:40 seg-0185 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0185` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0185](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0185) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5260s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5260s) Paradise Canto 5, line 73. Christians proceed with greater gravity. Do not be like a feather at each wind. Nor think that all immersions wash you clean. You have both testaments, the old and new. You have the shepherd of the church to guide you. You need no more than this for your salvation. ### 1:28:03 seg-0186 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0186` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0186](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0186) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5283s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5283s) Okay, what is she saying here? Okay, what is she saying here? She's saying, okay, yes, it's important to keep your vows to God. But at the same time, use your brain. And how can you use your brain? You have both testaments, the old and the new. You have the shepherd of the church to guide you. You need no more than this for your salvation. This is very subversive. If I'm the Catholic church and I hear this, I'm pissed off. Why? ### 1:28:44 seg-0187 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0187` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0187](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0187) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5324s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5324s) You don't need the priest. ### 1:28:50 seg-0188 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0188` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0188](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0188) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5330s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5330s) You don't need the priest, but what do you need? ### 1:28:55 seg-0189 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0189` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0189](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0189) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5335s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5335s) The Bible. ### 1:28:56 seg-0190 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0190` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0190](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0190) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5336s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5336s) The Bible. You do understand? Okay. What are you not allowed to do at this time if you're Catholic? ### 1:29:03 seg-0191 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0191` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0191](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0191) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5343s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5343s) To read the Bible. ### 1:29:04 seg-0192 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0192` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0192](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0192) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5344s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5344s) Read the Bible by yourself. You're not allowed to do that. And what Donnie is saying is like, hey, if you really want to understand what is true, read the Bible for yourself. Okay? Yes? ### 1:29:19 seg-0193 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0193` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0193](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0193) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5359s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5359s) So this is something I'm really confused about. So first you said that we should follow our intuition because our intuition comes from God. And then you said that we should use our brains. And then you said that we should. Read the Bible. However, if we presume that God is above all of this, if we presume that God does not need to make himself manifest in such things as the Bible or even the Catholic church, then what is God? How should we get closer to God? ### 1:29:51 seg-0194 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0194` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0194](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0194) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5391s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5391s) Okay. All right. So first, let's ask a question. Okay. Have you read the Bible before? Okay. What's the problem with reading the Bible? ### 1:30:03 seg-0195 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0195` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0195](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0195) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5403s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5403s) There's loads of versions. ### 1:30:05 seg-0196 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0196` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0196](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0196) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5405s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5405s) Excuse me? ### 1:30:06 seg-0197 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0197` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0197](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0197) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5406s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5406s) Loads of versions. ### 1:30:07 seg-0198 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0198` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0198](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0198) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5407s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5407s) Loads and loads of versions. It's pretty complicated, man. So what's the only way you can actually read the Bible? Use your intuition, man. You understand? Try reading the Bible using logic. Good luck with that one. Right? What's the contradiction here? What Tanya is saying is, okay, yes, I understand that you made this vow to God and you want to know what to keep and what to break. Use your intuition. How? Read the Bible. Listen to the priest. Okay? Once you have these two elements, go to church, listen to the priest, read the Bible, then this will be the path to your salvation. What he's really saying is, use your own judgment. Use your intuition. Use your faith. Yes? ### 1:31:07 seg-0199 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0199` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0199](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0199) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5467s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5467s) So what you are basically saying here, back to my inside -outside metaphor. So what you're basically saying here is that we have to use our intuition, but our intuition is not entirely. It's not entirely of our own control because we cannot use our intuition to forgive ourselves of everything we have ever done. And therefore, our intuition is something outside of us, and therefore, God is a concrete existence somewhere outside of us. ### 1:31:33 seg-0200 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0200` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0200](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0200) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5493s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5493s) Okay. All right. So let's try to make this simple, okay? It might be wrong, but let's try to make it simple, okay? Your intuition is ultimately your connection to the divine, to the universe, okay? Because, like, where does your intuition? Where does your intuition come from? It comes from the source. But there are ways in which to strengthen this connection, okay? Knowledge, reading, inquiry, debate, love, faith. Does that make sense? So live a life of love, faith, inquiry, pursuit of knowledge, and this will strengthen your intuition. Because for Dante, science and intuition are not mutually exclusive. They are independent. And they are codependent. Only with intuition can you truly be a scientist. Does that make sense, guys? All right. Let's keep on going, Carol. ### 1:32:36 seg-0201 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0201` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0201](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0201) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5556s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5556s) Paradise, Canto 5, line 79. If evil greed would summon you elsewhere, be men and not like sheep gone mad, so that the Jew who lives among you not deride you. Do not act like the foolish, wanton lamb that leaves its mother's milk. And heedless, wants to war against and harm its very self. These words of Beatrice I hear transcribed. And then she turned, her longing at the full, to where the world is more alive with light. Her silence and the change in her appearance imposed a silence on my avid mind, which now was ready to address new questions. And even as an arrow that has struck the mark before the bow cord comes to rest, so did we race to reach the second realm. When she had passed into that heaven's light, I saw my lady filled with so much gladness that, at her joy, the planet grew more bright. And if the planet changed ### 1:33:35 seg-0202 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0202` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0202](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0202) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5615s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5615s) and smiled, what then did I, who by my very nature am given to every sort of change, become? As in a fish pool that is calm and clear, the fish draw close to anything that nears from outside, if it seems to be their fare. Such were the far more than. The thousands of splendors I saw approaching us, and each declared, here now is one who will increase our loves. And even as each shade approached, one saw, because of the bright radiance it set forth, the joyous with which that shade was filled. Consider, reader, what your misery and need to know still more would be if, at this point, what I began did not go on. And you will, unassisted, feel happy. And how I longed so to hear those shades narrate their state as soon as they appeared before my eyes. O you, born unto gladness, whom God's grace allows to see the thrones of eternal triumph before your war of life has ended. ### 1:34:42 seg-0203 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0203` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0203](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0203) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5682s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5682s) The light that kindles us is that same light which spreads through all of heaven. Thus, ye would know us, state yourself as you may please. So did one of those pious spirits speak to me. And Beatrice then urged, speak, speak constantly. Trust them as you trust God. I see, plainly, how you have nested in your own light. See, you draw it from your eyes, because it glistens even as you smile. But I do not know who you are or why, good soul. Your rank is in a sphere concealed from mortals by another planet's ray. I said this as I stood turned toward the light that first addressed. And at this, it glowed more radiantly than it had before. Just as the sun, when heat has worn away thick mists that moderate its rays, conceals itself from sight through an excess of light. So did that holy form, through excess gladness, conceal himself from me within his rays. ### 1:35:49 seg-0204 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0204` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0204](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0204) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5749s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5749s) And so concealed, concealed, he answered me even as the next canto is to say. ### 1:35:56 seg-0205 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0205` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0205](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0205) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5756s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5756s) Okay, all right. So what's happening, of course, is that Darnian creatures are traveling through the cosmos. They're going from sphere to sphere. They are now in a new sphere. And the person they meet is Justinian. Justinian was emperor of the Byzantine Empire, okay? Probably the greatest emperor of the Byzantine Empire. And he will now talk about the history of Rome, which will be the next canto. Question. There's a word here that shouldn't be. It's a really weird word. If you are a Christian, if you're a practicing Christian, you hear this word and you basically shudder. You, you're like, what? Okay, it's like, it's like basically someone hitting you. What is this word? The word doesn't really belong. It should not be here. It's a word. Four letters, guys. Four letter word that should not be in. In heaven. It makes absolutely no sense. What's the word? Holy. Holy. No, holy is a word that you would want in heaven. ### 1:37:30 seg-0206 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0206` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0206](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0206) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5850s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5850s) Yes. Born. Huh? Born. Born. No. There's a word that's like, what is it doing here in heaven? You're like, this is wrong. All right. So it is. Excuse me? Yes. Yes. Thank you. God. What is going on here? You guys understand this? Yeah. You're like, you're a Christian. There's one God. And it is sacrilegious to say there is another God. There can only be one God. What? Beatrice says, speak, speak confidently. Trust them as you trust God. Beatrice says to Justinian, talk to Dante. Speak the truth. Talk to them as you trust God. It's a really strange word. Right? ### 1:38:36 seg-0207 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0207` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0207](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0207) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5916s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5916s) Does the gods here refer to like the Greek gods? I mean, I think yesterday we talked about how at the beginning of the contos, like Dante prayed to, for example, the Apollo and the Muses, even though he was like Christian. ### 1:38:50 seg-0208 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0208` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0208](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0208) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5930s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=5930s) Yeah. Well, I mean, like that can only be the reference, right? Because Christianity is monotheistic, meaning there's one God. The Greeks are polytheistic, meaning many gods, right? So the idea I'm trying to convey is that there's a subordinate God. It's subversive quality. It's subversive quality to the divine company. You can choose to just read it like as a Christian text. And quite honestly, most people do read it as Christian texts. And I put this out because the next conto, we will, for Justinian, read the entire history of the Catholic Church, okay? From its beginnings in Rome to the Holy Roman Empire. Okay? And that is the official chronology as presented by the Catholic Church. But what I'm trying to show you is that there are small things embedded throughout the text that subvert the traditional understanding of Christianity. It doesn't make sense, guys. And unless you read it deeply, you can't actually appreciate it. Yes? ### 1:40:05 seg-0209 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0209` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0209](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0209) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6005s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6005s) We see this as a humanistic perspective. Like, we often say modern -day celebrities are called stars, right? And sometimes we say gods of the literary canon. And sometimes we almost worship the greats in our history. And can this be seen as this pioneer of the humanistic perspective that humans can be great in and of themselves, even those who are not great for religion, like pagans, like Archimedes? ### 1:40:35 seg-0210 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0210` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0210](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0210) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6035s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6035s) Exactly. And what you say is the Renaissance. What makes the Renaissance a revolution in human affairs is that, as you say, it celebrates the human spirit and how the human spirit can be a force for innovation and good in the universe. And this is unique in Europe at this time. And it starts with Dante. It is Dante that launches the Renaissance as well as Margerne. It is Dante that promotes the idea of the individual as the creator of the universe. That we take for granted today, but which was revolutionary back in his time. Okay? So, yes. All right. So, we have another 20 minutes. But I want to talk about some ideas. Okay. So, I don't want to give you the impression that our discussion is the end -all and be -all, that we've uncovered the truth. I want to go over it into limitations. The first limitation, as you can appreciate, is this is written in Italian. ### 1:41:49 seg-0211 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0211` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0211](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0211) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6109s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6109s) We are reading it in English because we don't speak Italian. This is a severe limitation because it prevents us from doing literary analysis. We can't study the words. We can't study the diction, the syntax. Okay? And so, it limits our true understanding of what Dante is trying to convey. Does that make sense? Unless you read this in Italian, it's impossible to truly decipher his meaning. That's the point. ### 1:42:16 seg-0212 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0212` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0212](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0212) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6136s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6136s) And we've invited someone Italian to come read some passages for us later in the workshop. ### 1:42:23 seg-0213 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0213` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0213](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0213) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6143s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6143s) Yeah. And that would be great. But the point I'm trying to make is, like, unless you read it in Italian by yourself, you'll never truly understand it. Okay? Okay. That's point one. Point two is that we discussed this before, but in the line of comment, there's a lot of numerology. And mathematics. Because if you think about it, for Dante, mathematics is the underlying truth of the universe. Okay? Mathematics, numerology is what provides the structure of the universe. And there's a lot of actually numerology and mathematics within the divine comedy. The most basic example is a structure where it's 34 cantos in Inferno, 33 in Purgatory and 33 in... Um... Paradise. And also, like, if you look at the structure of the poem, it's three lines by three lines by three lines. Okay? There's clearly a numerological significance to number three because of what? When you think three, what do you think? ### 1:43:25 seg-0214 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0214` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0214](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0214) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6205s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6205s) Trinity. ### 1:43:25 seg-0215 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0215` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0215](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0215) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6205s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6205s) The trinity. Okay? Do you understand? Okay? So, what Dante is doing is, he is using mathematics in order to portray the divine structure of the universe. To explain. To express its intent... Sorry, its intentionality. Okay? It's a design. Okay? So, unless you really study the mathematics, it's, again, hard to understand the divine comedy. We're not going to do that because a lot of mathematics is in Italian. Okay? The mathematics would also include syllables and the rhymes and all that. Okay? So, we can't do the numerology as well. The third thing that we're missing that's very important for divine comedy is astrology. So, at this time in history, astrology is science. Right? You think that the movement of stars will determine the course of events. And if you read divine comedy, if you look at paradise, obviously, there's a lot of astrology here. Okay? Obviously, the way that the stars have been positioned, the way that Dante is looking at the stars from a certain angle, it's all significant. ### 1:44:35 seg-0216 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0216` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0216](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0216) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6275s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6275s) But I don't understand any of this stuff. Okay? So, astrology is also very key. Then you have the symbology. Symbology. So, we looked at some symbols last class. For example, the four circles and the three crosses. And we pointed out how you can have lots of rich discussions over the meaning of these symbols. There are lots of symbols scattered throughout divine comedy. And obviously, there's a lot of deep meaning under these symbols. But unless you actually study symbology, you don't know what they are. Okay? One, what Dante is doing that's very important is that he's combining the symbols that are in the divine comedy. He's combining different traditions together. Right? Not just the Christian tradition, but also the pagan tradition. Also the Islamic tradition, the Gnostic tradition. There's all sorts of traditions that he's combining together in order to create the symbology, the imagery that underlies the divine comedy. ### 1:45:44 seg-0217 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0217` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0217](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0217) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6344s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6344s) Okay? And the last element that we can't look at is the occult. Okay? Occult esotericism. What is the occult? The occult is basically talking to demons and angels. Okay? And if you actually know the occult, you will understand there's a lot of occult symbolism, a lot of occult references into the divine comedy. I don't know these references, so I cannot bring them out. Yes? ### 1:46:16 seg-0218 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0218` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0218](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0218) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6376s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6376s) Personally, based on my understanding, I would argue that the original meaning of the word occult is actually the hidden. And the occult can refer to more than angels and demons. In fact, if we're referring to that, we often do. We refer to them using, for example, demonology. So the occult could also refer to other topics. ### 1:46:37 seg-0219 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0219` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0219](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0219) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6397s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6397s) Yeah. Right. The occult just means what's hidden from us or what is esoteric. Okay? Yes. But most people refer to it as just talking to demons and angels. ### 1:46:46 seg-0220 - Speaker: SPEAKER_10 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0220` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0220](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0220) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6406s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6406s) Okay? ### 1:46:47 seg-0221 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0221` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0221](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0221) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6407s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6407s) And clearly, Donnie spends a lot of time talking to demons and angels. Right? So, and the last thing I would say is just magic. Okay? Magic manifestation. So why I bring this out is there is an entire universe in the divine comedy we cannot access because of limitations of our language, because of limitations of our knowledge. So even though we're having these rich discussions, appreciate that there's only a small fragment of the entirety of the divine comedy. And the entire purpose of this class is to encourage you to spend your entire lifetime studying the divine comedy. There's about 20 of you in this classroom. I guarantee you, if you were to spend the next 50 years studying the divine comedy, each and every one of you would have a radically different interpretation of divine comedy because some of you may learn Italian and go study numerology. Some of you may learn Italian and go study symbology. ### 1:47:58 seg-0222 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0222` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0222](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0222) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6478s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6478s) Okay? In which case, you present a radically different conception of your understanding. Another way of saying this is the divine comedy, what it really is, is the secret Bible of humanity. Right? The Bible is the major religious text for most people in this world. But if you are an intellectual, if you are an aspiring writer, the divine comedy is not what you think it is. The divine comedy is what will guide you in your imaginations. Okay? If you read the divine comedy throughout the entire life, I guarantee you, you are going to be one of our greatest intellectuals, one of our greatest writers, greatest thinkers, because there's so much richness. Also, if you actually read the divine comedy and you study things at the Kabbalah, you know the Kabbalah comes from divine comedy. Okay? This is something that we might discuss later on, but the Jewish Kabbalah is basically inspired by divine comedy. It's something that people don't recognize. ### 1:49:10 seg-0223 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0223` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0223](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0223) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6550s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6550s) But if you're a really smart person and you're really interested in the esoteric, in the occult, in magic, in God, then the divine comedy is the best source material that you can have. Okay? And again, I am just amazed. Okay? It is at the level of accomplishment. I mean, it is, I think, certainly the greatest individual human achievement in history, far greater than Einstein or Newton. But also, I think that if we were to rank the divine comedy to other great achievements, okay, the pyramids, the nuclear bomb, the computer, whatever, I still think the divine comedy is superior. Okay? That's my own feeling. Also, I will say that because I have access to all of this, okay, these six things I'm missing from my capacity to fully analyze divine comedy, it also means we'll probably skip certain sections. Okay? Does that make sense? Because certain sections are heavy into the ### 1:50:22 seg-0224 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0224` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0224](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0224) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6622s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6622s) occult, astrology, and mathematics, and there's really no point for us to read it because I don't understand what's going on. All right? Okay? So any questions about this? Yes? Do you remember the first time you read divine comedy and how it felt like? ### 1:50:36 seg-0225 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0225` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0225](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0225) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6636s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6636s) Yeah. ### 1:50:36 seg-0226 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0226` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0226](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0226) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6636s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6636s) I had no idea what I was reading. I started reading divine comedy about four years ago for the first time. I didn't read this at Yale. I think you have to get Italian to read divine comedy. I can't remember. And for the first many, many months, I didn't understand anything. Okay? I would read the words. I don't understand what's going on. Okay? I would watch videos. I think I watched 100 hours of videos explaining to me what divine comedy is. It made me more confused. Okay? Try it. Try going to YouTube. Try watching what these professors say about divine comedy. It will just confuse you even more. And so I'm really, really frustrated, but I have to teach this to my students. Okay? I'm teaching in a high school. And I've taught Homer. I've taught Plato. And I'm like, I should teach Dante as well. So I'm like, oh, my God. I am going to be a complete idiot. ### 1:51:43 seg-0227 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0227` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0227](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0227) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6703s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6703s) Okay? But I really, really want to teach this to my students because I really want to teach great books. And then one morning, I wake up, and it felt as though Dante walked into my dreams. And he gave me certain ideas. And he said, love. Okay? If you want to understand the divine comedy, think about what love is. Think about what the meaning of love is. And that will lead you to the right path. And then divine comedy started to, like, open up to me. Like, the words started to connect together. Okay? And it goes back to the idea of Picarda, where if there's a will, there's a way. Where I, for, like, four months, felt completely hopeless. Like, this is impossible. This is just stupid. I can't understand what's going on. All these YouTube videos are making me more confused. I felt hopeless. But when you really want it, the universe will respond. ### 1:52:49 seg-0228 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0228` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0228](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0228) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6769s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6769s) Maybe not the way you expect. Maybe not in the way you want. But it will respond. It will guide you to the right path. Okay? So it's only a question of will and desire. Yes? ### 1:53:04 seg-0229 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0229` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0229](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0229) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6784s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6784s) So something I would like to comment on. Something that I noticed and I think is interesting but understandable given its time is that so in fantasy, like, in fantasy fiction, there are two types of magic. There's hard magic and there's soft magic. And hard magic is when you do something, like, one plus one, and you expect it to equal two. And soft magic is when you don't know what will turn up. Magic just turns up when it needs to. So I think Dante's magic, Dante's esotericism is closer to magic. And soft magic than hard magic. But it's already showing the basic science of hard magic, which I think is really interesting because in Catholicism, you cannot expect God to do anything. So Catholic magic or miracles is absolutely soft magic. However, as we evolved as the disciplines of the Kabbalah, as the disciplines of occultism evolved, we gradually got ourselves some rituals. We got ritualism and that evolved into hard magic where we do something and we expect something to happen. ### 1:54:04 seg-0231 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0231` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0231](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0231) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6844s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6844s) Okay. I agree with that. Yeah. What I'll also say is that I really think divine comedy is the word of God. It's a universe speaking through Dante. And that's why I say it's perfect, okay? I've not been able to find a flaw in divine comedy. I mean, like, look at the beauty of its structure. Look at the beauty of its language. Look at the economy of its ideas, okay? We're able to take one sentence and have, like, hours and hours of discussions based on this. So I think it's going to be worth your while to spend the rest of your life studying divine comedy. It is that good. And there is magic, definitely magic in this. And the more you study, the more you will discover. Okay. I cannot say this about the Bible. I'm sorry. I've actually said the Bible. It is a complete mess. Okay. If you actually said the Bible, you're like, what's going on here? ### 1:55:06 seg-0232 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0232` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0232](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0232) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6906s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6906s) But divine comedy, the poetry makes it perfect, right? Because let's just say you're in the Middle Ages and you hear Dante recite poetry, right? What do you think? What are you thinking? It's God, right? It's God taking possession of Dante and Dante is reciting the poetry. Same thing if, you know, you go to a concert and you might have a favorite musician. But when the musician is singing, you think it's the universe singing. It's God that's singing, right? It touches you that deeply. All right. Okay. So when we come back from the break, we will go into the history of the Catholic Church. Okay. First, we'll show you the official history of the Catholic Church. And then we will show, I'll show you how Dante presents a new understanding of God. Of Jesus. Okay. All right. Any questions? Okay, guys. So, so I will see you after the break. Okay. ### 1:56:18 seg-0233 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0233` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0233](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0233) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6978s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=6978s) I'm going to do before we read Dante is I'm going to introduce the Catholic version of history. Okay. So the end point of history is Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church is the manifestation of God on Earth. Okay. It is heaven on Earth. So, all the events that led to Catholic Church were preordained. They were intended by God. Okay. And the thing that starts history and which leads to Catholic Church is, of course, Rome. Rome. It is God's intention, it is God's will that Rome conquer the world. So, it starts off this very small. Four. Place. In the entire peninsula. And it gradually expands outwards. And then it conquers, and then it conquers the entire Mediterranean. Right? It destroys Carthage. And the three Panic Wars. And now it controls most of the world spanning the Mediterranean. From Spain all the way to Egypt, all the way to Syria and the Levant. Okay. And this is the Roman Empire. ### 1:57:47 seg-0234 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0234` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0234](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0234) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7067s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7067s) Now, during the course of the Roman Empire, the Roman Empire, the Roman Empire, the Roman Empire, a civil war breaks out. Okay. And, of course, Julius Caesar will win this war. But he will become assassinated by Brutus and Cassius. And this will lead to the rise of Augustus Caesar. And after Augustus Caesar dies, Tiberius Caesar will come into power. And as during the time of Tiberius Caesar, Christianity is born. And it spreads. It's spreading throughout the Roman Empire. And it's a miracle because in the beginning of the first hundred years, it's persecuted. It's a very fringe religion. But by about 200, 300, it becomes the official religion of the Roman Empire because of Constantine. And Constantine will decide to shift his capital from Rome to Constantinople, which is modern -day Istanbul. And this begins the Byzantine Empire, which is the Eastern Roman Empire. And the great emperor of the Byzantine Empire is, of course, Justinian, who we are meeting or who we have met in my comedy. ### 1:59:12 seg-0235 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0235` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0235](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0235) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7152s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7152s) And Justinian will narrate the story of the Roman Empire. Okay. But it's basically like this. Now, you know, as we know, the Roman Empire does split in half between the Western and the Eastern. The Eastern Empire will fall to the Turks in the 16th century, about a thousand years later. But the Western Empire falls about the year 400. Okay. And when it falls, Europe is broken into different kingdoms, different factions. And about the year 800, Ptolemy of the Franks will unite all of Europe and create something called the Holy Roman Empire. And the Holy Roman Empire will last until who? Did you guys know your history? Who destroys the Holy Roman Empire? Excuse me. No, that's the Roman Empire. Who destroys the Holy Roman Empire? Did you guys know your history? Napoleon. Napoleon, yes. Napoleon Bonaparte. So that's a long way. ### 2:00:28 seg-0236 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0236` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0236](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0236) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7228s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7228s) Okay? This is about 1800. So the Holy Roman Empire lasts for a long, long time. And from the perspective of thousand Europeans, I think there's no doubt that the Roman Empire This is all the stability, the continuity, it's all because of the will of God, okay? Now, over the course of this time, as I said, Christianity will develop, okay? And Christianity will come to replace the Holy Roman Empire as the most powerful force in the world. So it starts, of course, with the birth of Jesus in about 4 BCE, okay? And then 33 is when he is crucified. And with his death, it will begin Christianity. What will happen is that Peter will become the first bishop of Rome, basically the first pope, okay? And then Paul will build the foundations of Christianity. And we meet both Peter and Paul in the divine company, not Jesus, but Peter and Paul. Then what happens is that Christianity spreads, and it becomes official under Constantine, okay? ### 2:01:42 seg-0237 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0237` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0237](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0237) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7302s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7302s) So now the Catholic Church is official. Now, in 325, this is something called the Council of Nicaea. Nicaea is in modern -day Turkey. But the Council of Nicaea is a radical turning point in Christian history. Because before, every single place in Europe had its own distinct church. That blended Christian elements with local pagan practice. The Council of Nicaea attempted to standardize Christianity by resolving certain theological conflicts within the church, okay? And there are quite a few major conflicts. The first major conflict is the nature of Jesus, okay? So everyone worships Jesus. That's why you're a Christian. But what was Jesus? There are some who said that Jesus was God, incarnate, right? There are some who said Jesus was a man who was anointed by God to be his messenger. And these are two extremes. And the solution that they came up with is that God is both man and God, okay? ### 2:03:01 seg-0238 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0238` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0238](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0238) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7381s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7381s) It's really important for you guys to appreciate. Jesus has a dual nature. Both God and man. Both divine and both human. Why was this important? You had to have Jesus both as divine and as human. Why? Do you guys know why? Do you want? You can't be like this guy's a man. You can't be this guy's a God. You have to be both. Why? Yes? ### 2:03:29 seg-0239 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0239` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0239](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0239) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7409s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7409s) Well, from a literary perspective, like, we all like a main character we can relate to. Right? And if Jesus was a holy God, then we can't relate to him that much. And if he was a holy human, then, well, what business does he have doing all these nice things for us? ### 2:03:46 seg-0240 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0240` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0240](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0240) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7426s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7426s) Okay. But there's actually a much more serious reason, yes? ### 2:03:51 seg-0241 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0241` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0241](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0241) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7431s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7431s) Because, therefore, he can save all the human by salvation. Okay. ### 2:04:01 seg-0242 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0242` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0242](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0242) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7441s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7441s) So the main reason is the crucifixion, right? Right? Doesn't make sense, guys. Crucifixion. So here is the crucifixion. The crucifixion is that the sacrifice only makes sense if he could die. Do you understand? If he's a God, who cares? That's nothing. So he needed to have a human element in order for his sacrifice to be worthwhile, to be worthy of redeeming us. Okay? So that's one major theological debate. And quite honestly, it still goes on today. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of different sects of Christianity. And I'm not arguing about this. Okay? But the really big question is the relationship between God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. Right? Because now we've affirmed that Jesus is God. That's why we worship him. That's why we're Christians. But why does God appear in the Bible? And what is the Holy Spirit? And what is Jesus? Right? What is the relationship between these three? And historically, there have been different explanations. ### 2:05:12 seg-0243 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0243` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0243](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0243) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7512s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7512s) The Council of Nicaea is important because it established the Holy Trinity. Okay? The Holy Trinity, the concept here is Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate, but one. It doesn't make sense. They are both different, but at the same time. Okay? So the Council of Nicaea establishes the Holy Trinity. And quite honestly, most Christians were against. They were very aghast at this idea. It started civil wars. This is what launched civil wars throughout the Christian world. Okay? But the Bison Empire enforced the Holy Trinity throughout. And even today, there's still arguments about the Holy Trinity. Okay? So this is a Council of Nicaea. We can point an idea to keep in mind because finally we'll discuss this for the Divine Comedy. Then we go to about 400. Why is this important? Because they're saying, oh, look, Jesus was the first to come. Rome falls. The barbarians, Visigoths, they overrun Rome. And if you're a Christian, you're like, this is a question of faith. ### 2:06:27 seg-0244 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0244` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0244](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0244) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7587s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7587s) Because you were taught that Rome is heaven on earth. It's where the Catholic Church is. So why would God not protect Rome? And so at this time, the major Catholic theologian named Augustine, he writes a book called City of God. In the City of God, what it argues is there are two cities in the world. There is Rome and there is Jerusalem. Rome is a seat of temporal power. Jerusalem is a seat of spiritual power. Rome was meant to fall so that Jerusalem may rise. What is Jerusalem? Jerusalem is the Catholic Church. Okay? So in other words, the Catholic Church is out of history. The Catholic Church does not care who is king. The Catholic Church does not care who is rich or who is poor. It doesn't matter. It's all temporal issues. Earthly issues. What the Catholic Church cares about is who goes to heaven and why. ### 2:07:45 seg-0245 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0245` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0245](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0245) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7665s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7665s) Okay? So Augustine establishes the separation between church and state where the church is out of history, beyond history. It doesn't care who is king. This is why in the 800, Charlemagne is a problem because Charlemagne wants to have the authority of the Catholic Church because he wants to become the new Roman emperor. The Pope grants it to him. The Pope anoints him emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Right? If you don't have holy in here, holy, then you're not holy. You need the church. So now the church becomes embedded in temporal politics. And this is what leads to Dante writing the Divine Comedy. Because he's angry at the fact that because the church has involved itself in temporal politics, now all of Europe is in factional politics. Right? Now you have two major seats of power. The Holy Roman Empire as well as the Catholic Church. And they're always fighting. ### 2:08:50 seg-0246 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0246` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0246](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0246) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7730s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7730s) The Holy Roman Empire is fighting. To figure out who will be Pope. That's not a temporal issue. That's not a worldly issue. The Vatican is fighting to install a friendly emperor in the Holy Roman Empire. Okay? This is happening for centuries. And this is leading to wars throughout all of Europe. It's also leading to massive oppression, massive censorship, the destruction of creativity in Europe. And this impels Dante to write the Divine Comedy. To address a lot of these histories. Okay? So what Dante's going to do is the first thing he's going to do is present the official story of the Catholic Church. And then he's going to make some adjustments to it. Okay? To reconcile the differences. Now, um, some really important history that Dante will go into is um, why did Jesus have to die? Okay? What was the point of the death of Jesus? And, as you know, it was to redeem us from our original sin. ### 2:10:05 seg-0247 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0247` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0247](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0247) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7805s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7805s) Right? Adam and Eve. At the beginning of time. God gave him a very simple order, very simple instruction, do not eat that stupid fruit. Okay? Anything else, but don't eat that fruit. And they eat the fruit. And that's the original sin. And then, we humans, because we disobeyed God, became lost. Uh, became evil. And it was Jesus who came to redeem us in the eyes of God. Right? And so, um, that's why he was crucified. Now, if you read the Bible, what it tells you is that the Jews were responsible for the death of Jesus. So now, God has to avenge his only son. So what happens? In the year 70, the Romans destroy the Second Temple. And, you know, modern day history, that's what's led to a lot of problems today. Okay? In the year 70, the Jews rebelled against the Romans. The Romans under Titus sent a huge army and they burned down the Second Temple. ### 2:11:23 seg-0248 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0248` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0248](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0248) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7883s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7883s) And this revenge for, um, uh, for the Jews betraying Jesus. And so, if you're a Christian, you learn this history. But, obviously, this raises a lot of issues. Why did, why was murder, the murder of Jesus necessary to redeem us? Right? What does one wrong make right? Okay? That doesn't really make any sense. Also, why would God need to punish the Jews if it's all part of the plan to begin with, right? The Jews did nothing wrong. Okay, yes, the Jews did betray uh, Jesus, but wasn't this part of the plan to begin with? The Jews were just doing their part. So, why did God have to punish the Jews? Okay? So, clearly, there are issues with, um, this history. And this history is important because, if you know European history, it's led to a lot of evil in Europe, right? For example, antisemitism. In Europe. Um, so, ### 2:12:38 seg-0249 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0249` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0249](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0249) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7958s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7958s) Dante feels compelled to reconcile this history and present it in a way that, um, we can appreciate and which will lead us closer to the monad, to God. And that really is the genius of Dante, where he can take this complex, convoluted history and turn it into a philosophy for us to appreciate and for us to act upon. Okay? Does that make sense? Any questions about this introduction before we read Dante? ### 2:13:14 seg-0250 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0250` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0250](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0250) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7994s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=7994s) Yes? Um, so, does Dante believe that Jesus is God or not? Does he, like, to how many parts does he agree with the Catholic Church? Okay. ### 2:13:25 seg-0251 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0251` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0251](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0251) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8005s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8005s) Um, that's a really good question. And the answer is, we'll never know because Dante is running out of time in history where um, you could be killed for defying the Catholic Church. For committing heresy. Okay? So, a lot of things he does, it's gonna be subtle, it's gonna be nuanced. We'll never truly know his true feelings. But, if I had to guess, um, I would say that Dante in his interpretation of the Bible, in his interpretation of Jesus, he felt that Jesus was a great spiritual leader who was divine in nature. But, so is Dante. Okay? Does that make sense? So, um, what Dante would say is, look, I'm writing this poetry because God has taken possession of me in order to relay a message to all of humanity. And that's what he would probably say about Jesus as well, where Jesus is divinely inspired to spread a message of hope and salvation to the people around him. ### 2:14:36 seg-0252 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0252` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0252](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0252) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8076s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8076s) Okay? Now, um, sorry, did you want to say something? ### 2:14:41 seg-0253 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0253` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0253](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0253) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8081s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8081s) I wanted to say something. Like, the history you just presented earlier about Jesus' murder, so you speak, was it meant to be factual or was it meant to be biblical? ### 2:14:52 seg-0254 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0254` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0254](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0254) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8092s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8092s) Um, so this is the official Catholic history. Right? I'm not making a comment if this is true or false. I'm just saying this is what the Catholic Church teaches its followers. Okay, okay, that's true. Am I right here? Okay. If you're Catholic and I get it wrong, please, please let me know. Okay? I present this to you because Justinian will say the same thing. Okay? But I'm putting this in simple terms so we understand what he's saying. And then Bonnie is going to argue against this. Alright. Okay. So let's go back to Jesus. Alright. So, um, something to keep in mind about Jesus is if you really want to understand the essence of Jesus, there is a part of the Bible that I think is pure poetry. It itself has to be divinely inspired, just like the divine comedy. And, um, I think we should read it together. Okay? It's called the Sermon on the Mount. ### 2:15:54 seg-0255 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0255` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0255](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0255) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8154s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8154s) Okay? So, so, so, Carol will read the Sermon on the Mount. Okay? Just so we can understand who Jesus is and how he thinks. We don't have to read all of it. It's pretty long, but we'll read a few paragraphs. Okay? ### 2:16:32 seg-0256 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0256` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0256](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0256) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8192s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8192s) Um, this is from the Gospel of Matthew. Um, the NIV version. It says, Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, the children of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. ### 2:17:17 seg-0257 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0257` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0257](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0257) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8237s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8237s) Okay, alright, stop. Okay. So, um, you can hear the poetry. You can hear the beauty and the truth. Now, um, this is very powerful. It, I think it moves every one of us today. Okay? Sometimes I just cry hearing this. But this is especially powerful 2,000 years ago when Jesus was alive. Why? Because the Roman Empire was really, really evil. The Roman Empire, the Pax Romana, marked a time of tremendous inequality where few people had everything. And where most people were slaves. So in this time, what do you do? Well, if you revolt like Spartacus, they'll come and they'll crucify you and your family, right? You can try to rebel, but there's no point because it is the empire. It is everywhere. It is everything. You can't possibly become rich because all the wealth has been monopolized. Yes? ### 2:18:23 seg-0258 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0258` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0258](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0258) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8303s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8303s) I would have to say that while this is, from a modern day perspective, true, I think it is a slightly anachronistic perspective because in the age of the Romans, wealth equality was a thing that was taken was taken as a granted in society and also Christianity is not free of its wealth equality, especially after its legalization and also Roman slavery was not as widespread or as cruel as we think. Many Roman citizens would enter slavery as a way to free themselves from their debt. So I'm saying that while all of this is true from a present day and from a Christian perspective, it is slightly anachronistic. ### 2:19:02 seg-0259 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0259` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0259](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0259) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8342s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8342s) Okay, so let me ask you this question. Let's just say that you are a young person living in the world today. The baby boomers have everything. You went to school now you have $100,000 in debt. And you have actually no job prospects. The best you can hope for is maybe to become a gig worker, right? Driving a Uber. You have no chance of getting married. You have no prospect of ever owning a home. How do you feel? How would you feel? I'd be pretty pissed. Yeah? ### 2:19:46 seg-0260 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0260` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0260](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0260) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8386s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8386s) Again, I think this, well, this is absolutely true on present day and highlight some of the most poignant questions that we face in our present day. I think it's a slightly anachronistic perspective if we apply it to the Roman Empire. ### 2:19:59 seg-0261 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0261` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0261](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0261) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8399s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8399s) Okay, alright, fine. Okay, but I'm just saying that maybe a thousand years ago we'd be like, wow, young people in the year 2026 have it all, man. They have cars. They have computers. They have air conditioning. They are, they must be the happiest young people ever in human history, right? You guys have porn in your computer. Right? You guys can fly to Beijing and take this class. What are you complaining about? Well, I'm pretty sure the slaves back in the Roman times had a lot more to complain about than you guys, okay? Alright? So, even though, okay, well, maybe they weren't that bad off, relatively, they felt hopeless, okay? If you were a slave in the Roman period during this time, and again, 90 % of the population were either poor or slaves, you hated your life. Right? And so, what is your hope? Well, what Jesus is saying is you have been brainwashed. You have been indoctrinated to believe that only wealth matters. ### 2:21:08 seg-0262 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0262` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0262](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0262) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8468s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8468s) Okay? Blessed are the poor. You are who God truly, truly loves. Don't seek wealth. Seek poverty. Poverty is the path to God. That is a message of hope. It's a message of salvation. It's also a message of liberation. The greatest revolution you can commit as an individual is to recognize the humanity, the divinity in yourself, regardless of what people in authority tell you. Right? This is why this message is so powerful, and it resonates, and that's why Christianity spread so far. Because it is a message that speaks to the human heart in a time of anguish. Okay? And this is a spirit, by the way, that Dante will try to remember or conjure up in the Divine Comedy. Jesus was not an empire builder. He didn't care about the church. There was no Catholic church when he was around. He was part of a movement called the poor. ### 2:22:16 seg-0263 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0263` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0263](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0263) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8536s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8536s) Okay? Have you guys learned this history? The poor. Okay? The poor. The poor, this movement is basically, we give up material wealth. We will travel as beggars. And we will only accept charity. Okay? We won't accept money, but we'll accept food and lodging. And there's a very powerful passage in, was it Matthew? But like, basically, actually, it's in most of the Gospels. But a young man says to Jesus, I want to be like you. How can I follow you? And Jesus is like, do good works. And then the young man's like, no, no, I want to do more. And Jesus says, if you really want to be one of God, give up your wealth. And then the man says, I can't do that because I'm filthy rich, man. I have a lot of money. I'm not going to give up my wealth. And then Jesus says to others, truly it is harder for a man to what was it? ### 2:23:32 seg-0265 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0265` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0265](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0265) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8612s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8612s) Yeah, right. Yeah. Go ahead. It's harder for the camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get out of heaven. ### 2:23:39 seg-0266 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0266` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0266](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0266) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8619s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8619s) Exactly. Okay. That is Jesus. That is the spirit of Jesus that Dante recognizes. And when Dante talks about Saint Francis of Assisi, right, he will conjure up, he will help us remember that this was the real Jesus. A man who taught people the path to salvation is through your spirituality. It is through kindness. Through generosity. Through love. Okay? That is the Jesus that I think Dante understood. ### 2:24:16 seg-0267 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0267` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0267](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0267) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8656s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8656s) Yes? But wasn't Dante an aristocrat himself? Like someone who had power and money and stuff? Like... Sorry, what's your point here? Well, I mean, if he wanted to be like Jesus then, or like spread his message then he didn't live exactly that life. He lived a life of like power, right? ### 2:24:39 seg-0268 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0268` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0268](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0268) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8679s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8679s) Or like he wasn't an aristocrat. So, first of all, I mean, Dante came from a good family, but he was not an aristocrat by the standards of Florence, okay? Also, let me ask you this question. Was Saint Francis of Assisi, you know, the man who became the founder of the Francis movement, who gave up all wealth, was he born rich or poor? Do you know? Guess. He was very, very rich. His family was very, very rich. That's why what he did was so significant, right? If you're born poor and you're like I don't want money, is that hard? But you're born rich and you're like you know what? All my friends are rich, I was born rich, but I didn't give up all this money. That is an action that is truly inspired, right? It's truly divine. Yes? ### 2:25:34 seg-0269 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0269` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0269](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0269) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8734s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8734s) This isn't related to Jesus necessarily. So what Dante, what I think Dante is doing, I think it's actually pioneering, it's actually an early version of Protestantism. So a kind of place where you return to God, where you return to Jesus instead of returning to the Catholic Church. So my personal opinion about the Catholic Church is that despite preaching the gospel of poverty, despite condemning having a lot of money and using it to do evil things, it actually enabled a lot of the power structures that allowed medieval European society to become so unequal and so futile. So my point is that Dante is actually subtly pioneering this to Jesus' own values, bypassing the Catholic Church. ### 2:26:17 seg-0270 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0270` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0270](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0270) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8777s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8777s) Yes, okay. Alright, so that's true, but something that you guys don't appreciate is there was always opposition towards the Catholic Church throughout history. Do you understand? The Protestant movement was not new. It was always there. Okay, so there were two major oppositions to the Church, okay? The first argument is that the Church is too worldly, meaning that these prelates were, these bishops were filthy, filthy rich. And like, sorry, but the Apostles, you know, they swore to poverty. Jesus swore to poverty, so that's betraying the Church. So throughout this history, okay, it's been covered up, but throughout this history, there were all these movements throughout Europe that criticized the Church for its corruption and who sought to return to a life of poverty. Some of these movements, the Church actually co -opted, right? So the Benedicts and the Dominicans and the Franciscans were co -opted by the Church, but they came about because of their harsh criticism of Church power and wealth. ### 2:27:31 seg-0271 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0271` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0271](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0271) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8851s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8851s) Okay? And the second thing about the Church was for Jesus taught, okay, this is really important, you can read the Bible, he actually says this, but Jesus taught that we all have a direct connection to God. Okay? That's what Jesus taught. But the Church says, no. No. We are born in sin, therefore we have betrayed God, therefore we must now rely on the Church to connect us back to God. Okay? But throughout most of this time, there were a lot of people who refused to accept this. And the one major group, of course, is called the Cathars. I'm not sure if you know this history. The Cathars. Okay? There are a lot of these Christian sects that taught that we had a direct connection to God. Okay? And so they were suppressed. This launched the Albigensian Crusade. Okay? So this is really important for you guys to understand. The Protestant movement was not a sudden revolution. ### 2:28:47 seg-0272 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0272` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0272](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0272) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8927s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8927s) It was always there. The Protestant revolution was successful. Okay? But throughout history, at no point was there not opposition towards the Catholic Church for these two reasons. Because the Church was seen as corrupt and because the Church denied direct access to God. Okay? And this is something that Dante will discuss at great depth in the Divine Comedy. Does it make sense? Okay. So one last thing that you guys need to know is in the year 1321, this is the year when Dante finished the Divine Comedy, and the moment he finished, like, I don't know, a few months later, he died. Okay? So basically, you could argue that he kept himself alive in order to finish the Divine Comedy. And then when he finished it, he's like, my mission is done. I can now rest and be with God. But in the year 1321, at this time in history, the explanation for why Jesus had to die on the cross is radically different from today. ### 2:29:55 seg-0273 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0273` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0273](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0273) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8995s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=8995s) Today, why do we think Jesus died on the cross? What's the explanation? To redeem us from our sins, right? Okay. Back then, the most popular explanation is something called the Ransom Theory. The Ransom Theory. Okay? And it goes like this. Who made us eat that fruit? Satan, right? Disguised as a serpent. So when we ate that fruit, we turned away from God and became slaves to Satan. So now, this is a problem. Because if God is to redeem us, he needs to pay a ransom to Satan. Right? Let me finish first, okay? And so, if you're God, and you need to make a deal with Satan, what can you offer to Satan that would allow him to free us? The answer is, his only son. Okay? But, Satan didn't recognize that the only son was so divine that he could resurrect. ### 2:31:12 seg-0274 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0274` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0274](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0274) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9072s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9072s) Okay? So Satan, so even though Jesus did go to hell, he was able to escape it as well. So at this time in history, this is the most popular explanation for why Jesus had to die on the cross. As a ransom for our sins. Okay? And over time, it becomes generalized to become, he redeemed us from our sins. So this is the most popular theory at this time. And Dante will respond to this theory. Yes? ### 2:31:39 seg-0275 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0275` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0275](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0275) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9099s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9099s) So, I think, again, I'm just picking at words, picking at hairs here, but I'm saying that Satan made us eat the fruit. Satan did not make us do anything. Satan tempted us to eat the fruit. And we did it of our own free will. Because if Satan made us eat the fruit, and if we really became slaves to him, then Satan would be more powerful than God. Because he could subvert God's most holy, most precious gift, which is our free will. Which doesn't make any sense. Right. ### 2:32:07 seg-0276 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0276` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0276](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0276) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9127s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9127s) Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's right. So, we have our free will, chose to become slaves to Satan. Does that make sense? Because when we became tempted by Satan, we turned away from God and became like Satan. Okay? ### 2:32:23 seg-0277 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0277` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0277](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0277) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9143s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9143s) But that is assuming that Satan is as powerful as God, and Satan has the right to receive the gift of our free will. Okay. ### 2:32:30 seg-0278 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0278` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0278](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0278) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9150s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9150s) So, look. I'm not arguing about theology. Okay? I'm not arguing about these ideas. I'm just saying what people believed at this time. And what the church taught at this time. Because I need to explain to you why Dante's doing what he's doing. Okay? I'm not going to argue if this is right or wrong. I'm just saying this is what people believed at this time. Does that make sense, guys? Okay? Alright. So, this is the background. And so, we're not going to read Dante together. Okay? So, for the first canto, Justinian is just going to tell us the history of the Catholic Church, beginning with Rome. And keep in mind, there are two things that upset Dante. The first is, why did Jesus have to die? The second is, why did God have to destroy the temple? Okay? Alright. Can you read, Carol, please? ### 2:33:31 seg-0279 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0279` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0279](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0279) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9211s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9211s) Paradise, canto six, from the beginning. After Constantine had turned the eagle counter to heaven's course, the course it took behind the ancient one who led Lavinia. Okay. ### 2:33:44 seg-0280 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0280` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0280](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0280) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9224s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9224s) So, Constantine, of course, is a person who makes Christianity the official religion of Rome. The eagle is the Roman Empire itself. Okay? The eagle is the standard of the Roman Empire. When you see the word eagle, it means the Roman Empire. The ancient one who led Lavinia is Aeneas. Okay? And in many ways, the Divine Comedy, it is a reimagination of Virgil's great epic poem, The Aeneid. I'll discuss this next week. Okay? But that's in the background. Keep on going. ### 2:34:13 seg-0281 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0281` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0281](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0281) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9253s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9253s) One hundred and one hundred years and more, the bird of God remained near Europe's borders, close to the peaks from which it first emerged. Beneath the shadow of the sacred wings, it ruled the world from hand to hand, until that governing, changing, became my task. Caesar I was, and am Justinian, who through the will of primal love I feel, removed the vain and needless from the laws. But I grew, before I grew attentive to this labor, I held that but one nature, and no more, was Christ's. And in that faith I was content. But then the blessed Agapetus, he who was chief shepherd, with his words turned me to that faith which has truth and purity. I did believe him, and now clearly see his faith, as you with contradictories can see that one is true and one is false. As soon as my steps shared the church's path, God of his grace inspired my high task as pleased him. ### 2:35:22 seg-0282 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0282` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0282](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0282) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9322s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9322s) I was fully drawn to that. And trusting to my Belisarius, my arms, I found a sign for me to rest from war. Heaven's right hand so favored him. Okay, so the background is this, okay? ### 2:35:36 seg-0283 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0283` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0283](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0283) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9336s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9336s) Justinian is emperor of the Byzantine Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire, and at this point in history, the Roman Empire is divided into the Eastern half and the Western half, okay? It's basically split in two. And because it's split in two, there are many different variants of Christianity. Most variants do not accept the Holy Trinity, okay? So Justinian goes on this Holy Crusade to conquer and unite all the Roman Empire and enforce the Holy Trinity on everyone. And he succeeds. And his general at this time was Belisarius, okay? ### 2:36:12 seg-0284 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0284` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0284](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0284) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9372s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9372s) Keep on going. My answer to the question you first asked ends here, and yet the nature of this answer leads me to add a sequel so that you may see with how much reason they attack the sacred standard, those who seem to act on its behalf and those opposing it. See what great virtue made that eagle worthy of reverence, beginning from that hour when Pallas died that it might gain a kingdom. You know that for 300 years and more, it lived in Alba until at the end three still fought three, contending for that standard. You know how under seven kings it conquered its neighbors? In the year reaching from wronged Sabine women to Lucretius' grief. Okay, so ### 2:37:01 seg-0285 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0285` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0285](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0285) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9421s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9421s) the Sabine woman, Lucretius' suicide is all part of the early history of the Roman Republic, okay? We don't have time to go into this history, but what he's doing is summarizing the history of the Roman Republic which then gives birth to the Roman Empire, okay? Keep on going. And what it ### 2:37:20 seg-0286 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0286` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0286](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0286) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9440s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9440s) did when carried by courageous Romans who hurried to encounter Brennus, Pyrrhus, and other principates and cities. Through this, Torquatus, Quintius, who is named for his disheveled hair, the Deci and Febi gained the fame I gladly honor. That standard brought the pride of Arabs low when they had followed Hannibal across those alpine rocks from which, Poe, you descend. Beneath that standard Scipio, Pompey, though young, triumphed, and to that hill beneath which you were born, that standard seemed most harsh. Then, near the time when heaven wished to bring all of the world to heaven's way, Cyrene, Caesar, as Rome had willed, took up that standard. And what it did from Var to Rhine was seen by the Iser, Saon, and Sen, and all the valley floors whose rivers feed the Rhône. And what it did once it had left Ravenna and left the Rubicon was such a flight as neither tongue nor writing can describe. That standard ### 2:38:31 seg-0287 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0287` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0287](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0287) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9511s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9511s) led the legions on to Spain, then toward Durazzo, and it struck Pharsalia so hard that the warm Nile could feel that hurt. It saw again its source, and Tendros, and Simois, and the place where Hector lies. Then roused itself the worst for Ptolemy. From Egypt, lightning -like, it fell on Juba, and then it hurried to the west a few, where it could hear the trumpet of Pompey. ### 2:39:00 seg-0288 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0288` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0288](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0288) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9540s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9540s) Okay, so again, he's just reciting or just summarizing Roman history where, and the point is the tone is that it is all ordained by God. The rise of Rome was so quick that it had to be divine. Then with Rome comes Julius Caesar, who will now birth the Roman Empire. By conquering Gaul, by conquering everyone, basically, and it's all been preordained. Nothing can stop it. Not the Carthaginians, not even civil war can stop God's plan. ### 2:39:34 seg-0289 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0289` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0289](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0289) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9574s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9574s) Because of what that standard did, with him who bore it next, Brutus and Cassius howled in hell, and grief seized Modena Perugia. Because of it, sad Cleopatra weeps still as she fled that standard. From the asp she drew a sudden and atrocious death. And with that very bearer it then reached the Red Sea shore. With him that emblem brought the world such peace that Janus' shrine was shut. But what the standard that has made me speak had done before, or then was yet to do, throughout the mortal realm where it holds rule, comes to seem faint and insignificant if one with clear sight and pure sentiment sees what it did in the third Caesar's hand. ### 2:40:23 seg-0290 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0290` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0290](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0290) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9623s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9623s) Okay, so the third Caesar is Tiberius Caesar, right? The first is Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, and the third is Tiberius Caesar. Tiberius Caesar is important because this is during the time of Jesus, right? Jesus is now working as a prophet during this time. Keep on going. ### 2:40:42 seg-0291 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0291` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0291](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0291) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9642s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9642s) For the true justice that inspires me, granted to it in that next Caesar's hand, the glory of avenging his own wrath. Now marvel here at what I show to you. Sorry, the glory of avenging his own wrath refers to the crucifixion of Jesus, right? ### 2:41:00 seg-0292 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0292` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0292](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0292) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9660s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9660s) God is angry at us. In order to dissipate his anger, he must sacrifice his only son, Jesus. Okay, this is what it refers to. Keep on going. Now marvel here at what I show to you. ### 2:41:14 seg-0293 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0293` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0293](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0293) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9674s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9674s) With Titus, afterward, it hurried toward avenging vengeance for the ancient sin. ### 2:41:20 seg-0294 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0294` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0294](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0294) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9680s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9680s) So Titus is the general that will destroy the Jewish rebellion and burn down the second temple. Okay, and this is, and the Catholic Church teaches people at this time that this is vengeance for the Jews' betrayal of Jesus. Keep on going. And when the ### 2:41:38 seg-0295 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0295` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0295](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0295) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9698s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9698s) lombard tooth bit Holy Church, then Charlemagne, under the eagle's wings, through victories he gained, brought help to her. Now you can judge those I condemned above, and judge how much men have offended have become the origin of all your evils. For some oppose the universal emblem with yellow lilies, others claim that emblem for party, it is hard to see who is worse. Let ghibellines pursue their undertakings beneath another sign, for those who sever this sign and justice are bad followers. Okay, so now what ### 2:42:14 seg-0296 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0296` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0296](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0296) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9734s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9734s) Justinian is saying is that in this time, people have misused the legacy of the Roman Empire to conduct their own wars for political gain, okay? So I said before that with the birth of the Holy Roman Empire, the church becomes embroiled in European geopolitics, and this leads to wars throughout this period. Dante is forced into these wars, because right now in history, this is about the year 1300, the ghibellines and the guelphs are at war with each other. The guelphs support the pope, the ghibellines support the Holy Roman Empire, or the other way around, I can't remember, okay? And what happens is the guelphs, and Dante is part of the guelphs, they feed the ghibellines, and so the guelphs control Florence. And what happens next, of course, is you guys know? The guelphs divide into two factions, the blacks and the whites. And these are before the same political party, and now they're fighting each other for power. ### 2:43:17 seg-0297 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0297` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0297](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0297) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9797s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9797s) And at first the whites win and exile the black guelphs. The black guelphs then stage a combat and then kick out the white guelphs, which exiles Dante, okay? And what Dante is saying, which I'm sitting in, is that this is all a corruption of the teachings of the church, okay? The church should not be involved in temporal politics. We should not be fighting for the legacy of Rome, okay? Keep on going. ### 2:43:48 seg-0298 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0298` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0298](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0298) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9828s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9828s) And let not this new Charles strike at it with his guelphs, but let him fear the claws that stripped a more courageous lion of its hide. The sons have often wept for a father's fault, and let the son not think that God will change the emblem of his force for Charles's lilies. This little planet is adorned with spirits whose acts were righteous, but who acted for the honor and the fame that they would gain. And when desires tend toward earthly ends, then, so deflected, rays of the true love mount toward the life above with lesser force. ### 2:44:25 seg-0299 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0299` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0299](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0299) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9865s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9865s) Okay, so again, this is a central idea in Divine Comedy, okay? God is always calling to us. We always, we've always wanted to return to God, but because of free will, we can choose where to direct our energies. If we direct our energies towards God, we become closer to God, but if we direct our energy towards power, earthly gain, materialism, then God, then we will turn away from God, and God will shine less brightly on us, okay? Keep on going. But part ### 2:44:57 seg-0300 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0300` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0300](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0300) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9897s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9897s) of our delight is measuring rewards against our merit, and we see that our rewards are neither less nor more. Thus, the living justice makes so sweet the sentiments in us that we are free of any turning toward iniquity. Differing voices join to sound sweet music, so do the different orders in our life render sweet harmony among these spheres. And in this very pearl, there also shines the light of Romeo, of one whose acts, though great and noble, met ungratefulness. And yet those Provençals who schemed against him had little chance to laugh for he who finds harm to himself and others' righteous acts takes the wrong path. Of Raymond Barringer's four daughters, each became a queen, and this poor and a stranger Romeo accomplished. Then Barringer was moved by vicious tongues to ask this just man for accounting, one who, given ten, gave Raymond five and seven. And Romeo the poor, the old, departed, and were ### 2:46:02 seg-0301 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0301` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0301](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0301) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9962s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9962s) the world to know the heart he had while begging, and he gave him meat for his life bread. It, though it praise him now, would praise him more. ### 2:46:11 seg-0302 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0302` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0302](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0302) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9971s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=9971s) Okay so this is very similar to the message of Jesus, okay? What Jesus taught his followers is all this wealth that we see in this world, it's a false wealth. It's nothing. It's poverty. The true wealth is with God. So, do what is right and you'll be wounded in heaven. And that's what he's saying, what Donnie is saying Justinian there was a man Romeo who was very much like Dante who was participating in these wars but because he chose to do good um the people turned against him and even though he suffered in on earth he was exiled he was impoverished just like Dante ultimately he was given a tremendous reward in heaven okay so make your choice you can either choose a life of wealth here and a life of poverty up there or a life of poverty down here not life of poverty up there okay it's entirely your choice it's your free ### 2:47:11 seg-0303 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0303` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0303](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0303) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10031s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10031s) will okay all right so what's happened is that we now know the official story of the Catholic church as told by Justinian but again this raises a question for Dante which is tell me exactly why Jesus had to kill himself again it doesn't make any sense okay and what Beatrice is going to do is explain um Jesus sacrificed in a way that I think is the most powerful explanation ever okay but before we start does anyone here know why Jesus had to kill himself uh first yeah yeah you go first oh yeah yeah oh yeah I think Jesus is trying to ### 2:47:59 seg-0304 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0304` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0304](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0304) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10079s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10079s) cure himself just because he wants to show that he's not he's really the the son of God because some people keep doubt on him and even the Judah you know the the disciple right who just said that he just you know because of the silver coin right he just tried to betray the Jesus maybe Jesus wanted people to know that he is the true ### 2:48:20 seg-0305 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0305` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0305](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0305) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10100s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10100s) God yeah and certain certain denominations teach this yes to prove that he is truly divine because ### 2:48:26 seg-0306 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0306` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0306](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0306) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10106s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10106s) he can resurrect himself yes okay the sacrificing your own son has to be like the biggest representation of love and that's the love that God has towards us okay could you elaborate on that as in there's nothing harder that someone could do than sacrifice their own son but the fact that God did it for us to clean us from our sins shows how much he loves us um okay but did ### 2:49:04 seg-0307 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0307` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0307](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0307) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10144s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10144s) he really sacrifice his son because Jesus didn't die right but he was willing to show us okay he showed us okay yes okay that's actually Donna's explanation as well yes ### 2:49:21 seg-0308 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0308` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0308](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0308) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10161s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10161s) questions the first one is that uh jesus sacrificed to prove that he is divine so if he proves that he is divine through a concrete thing like rising up from the dead then that's not that's not faith anymore is it that's just i saw him rise from the dead it's a fact and the second question is that god sacrificed his son so uh as god's son jesus is both human and divine and because he's he is part human he has free will and therefore he can choose whether or not to be sacrificed so i think maybe a more appropriate framing would be jesus chose to sacrifice himself god did not sacrifice anybody because god cannot take away that gift right now you're exactly right no no you're right ### 2:50:04 seg-0309 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0309` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0309](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0309) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10204s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10204s) jesus did sacrifice himself it was his choice sacrifice you're right okay but the idea is that jesus and god are the same thing right okay all right so so let let let's read this okay and this is a really powerful section i want to make sure we appreciate the logic here okay we we can skip the first three lines because that's ### 2:50:24 seg-0310 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0310` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0310](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0310) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10224s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10224s) his latin okay thus even and even as he wheeled to his own music i saw that substance sing that spirit flame above whom double lights were twined and he and his companions moved within their dance and as if they were swift as sparks they sped out of my sight because of sudden distance i was prepared and i braved their running heart and by another tale i said to himself now tell her tell her tell her the lady who can select my thirst with her sweet drops and yet the reverence that possesses all of me even on hearing only bee and ice had bowed my head i seemed a man asleep but beatrice soon ended that for she began to smile at me so brightly that even in fire a man would still feel glad According to my never -erring judgment, the question that perplexes you is how just vengeance can deserve just punishment. ### 2:51:40 seg-0311 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0311` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0311](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0311) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10300s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10300s) Okay, all right. Okay, this is a really important sentence, okay? What it means is God should be angry at us for betraying him, for eating the fruit when he told us not to, okay? This is just vengeance. He should be angry at us. But why would it involve the sacrifice of his only son, right? Just punishment. Why should this man who is innocent, Jesus, have to sacrifice himself in order to appease God's anger at us? That doesn't make any sense, right? Okay, keep on going. ### 2:52:29 seg-0312 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0312` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0312](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0312) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10349s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10349s) But I shall quickly free your mind from doubt and listen carefully. The words I speak will bring the gift of a great truth in reach. Since he could not endure the helpful curb on his willpower, the man who was not born, damning himself, damned all his progeny. ### 2:52:48 seg-0313 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0313` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0313](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0313) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10368s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10368s) Okay, stop. Who is this man? Yeah, it's Adam, obviously. Right? Okay, keep on going. ### 2:52:58 seg-0314 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0314` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0314](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0314) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10378s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10378s) For this, mankind lay sick in the abyss of a great error for long centuries until the word of God willed to descend. To where the nature that was sundered from its maker was united to his person by the sole act of his eternal love. ### 2:53:17 seg-0315 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0315` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0315](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0315) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10397s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10397s) Okay, so now there's a separation between God and us. And the question is, how do you reconcile, right? There's anger now. God is angry at us, and we basically screwed up. And we don't even know how to ask for forgiveness, okay? So this is a schism. This is a schism. This is a separation. Okay, keep on going. ### 2:53:45 seg-0316 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0316` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0316](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0316) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10425s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10425s) Now set your sight on what derives from that. This nature, thus united to its maker, was good and pure, even as when created. But in itself, this nature had been banished from paradise, because it turned aside from its own path, from truth, from its own life. ### 2:54:04 seg-0317 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0317` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0317](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0317) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10444s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10444s) Okay, so we were born good, okay? And we know we're born good, because in the Bible, it says that when God created man, God breathed, breathed the spark of life into us, okay? So there's an essence of God within us. Therefore, we are born good. But because of free will, we can choose to do stupid things. We can choose a path of evil. And once you take a path of evil, what often happens is that it becomes like a snowball, okay? Rolling down and accumulating. So we do one stupid act, then we do another, then we do more evil, and it keeps on going. And we don't really know how to get back on the correct path, okay? Keep on going, Carol. ### 2:54:50 seg-0318 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0318` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0318](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0318) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10490s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10490s) Line 40. Thus, if the penalty the cross inflicted is measured by the nature he assumed, no one has ever been so justly stung. Yet none was ever done so great a wrong. If we regard the person made to suffer, he who had gathered in himself that nature. Thus, from one action issued differing things. God. The Jews were pleased by one same death. Earth trembled for that death, and heaven opened. You need no longer find it difficult to understand when it is said that just vengeance was then avenged by a just court. But I now see your understanding tangled by thought on thought into a knot, from which, with much desire, your mind awaits release. You say, what I have heard is clear to me, but this is hidden from me. Why God? Why do you hold precisely this pathway for our redemption? ### 2:55:47 seg-0319 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0319` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0319](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0319) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10547s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10547s) Okay, right, okay. So this is the question, okay? If you are God, and you are infinite and eternal, why do you have to pick a particular way in which an innocent man, Jesus, was punished? He could choose to be punished, but it seems unjust, okay? It seems wrong. Okay, keep on going. ### 2:56:19 seg-0320 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0320` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0320](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0320) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10579s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10579s) Verse 15. Brother, this ordinance is buried from the eyes of everyone whose intellect has not matured within the flame of love. ### 2:56:28 seg-0321 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0321` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0321](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0321) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10588s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10588s) Okay, so what she's saying here, and this is really important, is you don't understand because you don't love enough. If you become a parent and you love your child unconditionally, then you understand why God had to do what he did, okay? God is eternal and infinite. There are a million solutions. There are a million solutions, and he picked the best possible solution. If it sounds stupid to us, if it sounds wrong to us, it's not his problem, it's our problem. It's because we don't understand love enough. Keep on going. ### 2:57:07 seg-0322 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0322` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0322](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0322) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10627s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10627s) Verse 61. Nevertheless, since there is much attempting to find this point, but little understanding, I shall tell why that way was the most fitting. The godly goodness that has banished every envy from its own self burns in itself. And sparkling so, it shows eternal beauties. All that derives directly from this goodness is everlasting, since the seal of goodness impresses an imprint that never alters. Whatever reigns from it immediately is fully free, for it is not constrained by any influence of other things. Even as it conforms to that goodness, so does it please it more. The sacred ardor that gleams in all things is most bright within those things most like itself. The human being has all these gifts, but if it loses one, then its nobility has been undone. Only man's sin annuls man's liberty, makes him unlike the highest good, so that in him the brightness of its light is dimmed. ### 2:58:14 seg-0323 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0323` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0323](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0323) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10694s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10694s) Okay, stop. Okay, all right. Okay, so do you guys understand what he's saying? What Beatrice is saying is that God is perfect. God is pure love. God is all generosity, all forgiveness, all truth. And we were created in his image, and so we share all his qualities. The problem is we have free will, and we are immature. And the moment we choose to sin, we turn away from God, and therefore we lose our divinity. And once we pick this path, we can only compound our own mistakes, our own evil. Okay, does that make sense? When we turn away from God by sinning, we're lost now. Okay, keep on going. ### 2:59:02 seg-0324 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0324` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0324](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0324) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10742s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10742s) Verse 82. And man cannot regain his dignity unless, where sin left emptiness, man fills that void with just amends for evil pleasure. For when your nature sinned so totally within its seed, then from these dignities, just as from paradise, that nature parted, and they could never be regained. If you consider carefully, by any way that did not pass across one of these forwards, either through nothing other than his mercy, God had to pardon man, or of himself, man had to proffer payment for his folly. ### 2:59:46 seg-0325 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0325` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0325](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0325) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10786s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10786s) Okay, all right. So, okay, what she's saying here is, okay, we screwed up, and this is the worst thing that we could have done, okay? Okay? There's actually two ways to redemption. The first way is if we make amends, okay? But there's a problem with that. What's the problem with that? How can we make amends for the original sin? Okay, first of all, what is the original sin? Do you guys know what the original sin is? Yeah, go ahead first, and then you, okay? We ate from the knowledge. But what is that? What motivated us? Yes? And then you. Like, like, like... I know you know, okay? But, but, yeah. Go ahead. ### 3:00:41 seg-0326 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0326` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0326](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0326) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10841s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10841s) So, basically, like, there was the Garden of Eden, and there was Satan, and he turned into a snake, and he was like, hey, Eve, eat this apple. And Eve... ### 3:00:49 seg-0327 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0327` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0327](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0327) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10849s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10849s) It wasn't an apple, by the way. But, but, but why do we do it? Why do we eat the fruit? ### 3:00:54 seg-0328 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0328` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0328](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0328) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10854s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10854s) Because we, well, the problem that God has with it is that we disobeyed him. He told us, don't eat the fruit, and we ate the fruit. ### 3:01:01 seg-0329 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0329` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0329](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0329) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10861s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10861s) Why was he angry at disobedience? ### 3:01:05 seg-0330 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0330` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0330](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0330) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10865s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10865s) Um... ### 3:01:07 seg-0331 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0331` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0331](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0331) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10867s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10867s) Sorry, go, go, go. Go ahead. ### 3:01:09 seg-0332 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0332` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0332](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0332) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10869s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10869s) The fact that we want to become God. ### 3:01:11 seg-0333 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0333` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0333](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0333) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10871s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10871s) Exactly. Okay, do you understand? The problem was not disobedience. The problem was the serpent told Eve, you eat this fruit, and you'll become like God. Meaning, we want to overthrow God. Okay? This is the original sin. Not the stupid fruit, okay? Who cares if you eat the fruit? The, the original sin is our hearts became evil. Our hearts became so evil and vicious that we wanted to kill God and become God ourselves. That is the issue. Yes? ### 3:01:39 seg-0334 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0334` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0334](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0334) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10899s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10899s) So, where did it say that we want to kill God? Like, this is, this is monotheism, I know. But, like, where did it say we want to kill God? We want to be equal with God. That does not mean we have to kill him. ### 3:01:51 seg-0335 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0335` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0335](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0335) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10911s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10911s) Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Just like she said, the thing, you don't want to kill him. Just, you can't replace them. You can't be like them. Like, not... ### 3:02:00 seg-0336 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0336` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0336](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0336) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10920s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10920s) Guys, guys, um, you don't understand something. Um, when, we are working in a historical context. Do you understand? At this time in history, what the Catholic Church teaches its followers, its flock, is that the original sin is our pride. Okay? This is, this is historical fact. This started with the Bible. And in the Bible, it literally says that the serpent tempted Eve to eat the fruit because it would make her like God. It's literally in the Bible in Genesis. Okay? Okay? But Augustine, who will take this and say, the original sin is our pride. And this becomes the official doctrine of the church. Okay? You guys, you guys appreciate this. I'm not arguing with you if this is right or wrong. I'm just saying, this is what is historically true. And this is what Beatrice is saying. Okay? According to the doctrine of the church, we want to be like God. And, like, how can you make amends for that? ### 3:03:07 seg-0337 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0337` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0337](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0337) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10987s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=10987s) And the answer is, you cannot make amends. You want to kill God. Okay? There's no way that you, there's nothing that you could do to appease God or make amends or redeem yourself. Because you did the worst thing possible in the universe. Okay? Excuse me? The worst thing that you could do, yes. Okay? But the worst thing that humanity has ever done in the universe is to try to kill God. Okay? Okay. ### 3:03:44 seg-0338 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0338` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0338](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0338) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11024s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11024s) Verse 94. Now, fix your eyes on the profundity of the eternal counsel. Heed as closely as you're able to my reasoning. Man and his limits could not recompense. For no obedience, no humility he offered later could have been so deep that it could match the heights he meant to reach through disobedience. Man lacked the power to offer satisfaction by himself. Thus, there was need for God. Through his own ways. To bring man back to life intact. I mean by one way or by both. But since a deed pleases its doer more, the more it shows the goodness of the heart from which it springs. The godly goodness that imprints the world was happy to proceed through both its ways to raise you up again. Nor has there been, nor will there be, between the final night and the first day, a chain of action so lofty and so, magnificent as he enacted when he followed his two ways. ### 3:04:50 seg-0340 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0340` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0340](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0340) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11090s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11090s) Okay, all right, okay. So this is beautiful, okay? But this is the logic. The logic is we can't forgive ourselves, so God must redeem us. But God has to redeem us in a way that changes us for the better. And so he has his son. And the thing about his son is that it's a dual nature, right? Both man and God, okay? So the fact that a man, Jesus, is going to redeem us will help save us, okay? Because now we are engaged in our own salvation through Jesus. It doesn't make sense, guys. Keep on going. ### 3:05:35 seg-0341 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0341` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0341](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0341) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11135s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11135s) Verse 115. For God showed greater generosity in giving his own self than that man might be able to rise, than if he simply pardoned. For every other means, fell short of justice, except the way whereby the Son of God humbled himself when he became incarnate. ### 3:05:56 seg-0342 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0342` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0342](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0342) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11156s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11156s) Okay, so there's a million solutions, okay? And God spent 1,000 years, 2,000 years, who knows? Think of a solution. And his answer is, well, first of all, I can't just forgive these guys. They'll learn nothing. And I need them to do it themselves. But they're humans, and they're kind of lame, so they can't do it. So the only solution is for the Son of God to become man, okay? That's the only solution. A million possible scenarios, there's only one scenario that could possibly redeem us, and it's for the Son of God to become man and to be sacrificed, okay? That's the only way forward. Keep on going. ### 3:06:43 seg-0343 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0343` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0343](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0343) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11203s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11203s) Verse 121. Now to give all your wishes full content, I go back to explain one point, so that you, too, may see it plainly as I do. You say, I see that water, see that fire and air and earth, and all that they compose come to corruption and endure so briefly. ### 3:07:03 seg-0344 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0344` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0344](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0344) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11223s) All right, stop. Okay, all right. So what I'm going to do now is help us appreciate the genius of the sacrifice of Jesus, okay? So I'm going to give you a thought experiment. The thought experiment is this. You are a monster. You are a mother or a father, who cares? You're a parent, okay? And you have a daughter named Eve. And one day, you bring home a dog, okay? And Eve asks you, do you love this dog more or do you love me more? And we're like, we love you both. Come on, man. Of course we love you both. And then Eve's like, okay. Then Eve's like, okay. And Eve can't sleep because she's really disturbed by this question. Does my mother or father love me more or the dog more, okay? So then she comes up with this solution to solve this problem, which is she kills a dog, right? ### 3:08:13 seg-0345 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0345` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0345](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0345) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11293s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11293s) She's like, I'm going to kill the dog. And that's going to show me if my parents love me more or love the dog more, okay? Now, as the parent, you're completely screwed, okay? Because let's think about this. What do you do? You told Eve you love them both. You love both the dog and Eve, your daughter. Your daughter is confused by this. And so she's like, well, I'm curious now who my parents really love. So I'm going to kill the dog and see what happens, okay? And so what do you do? ### 3:09:05 seg-0346 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0346` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0346](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0346) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11345s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11345s) Maybe I would like to say that this dog is the dog I love most and you're the daughter I love most. Yeah, but your dog's dead. Yeah, but in that case, the girl does not like to test it because she knows that he's the only one. No, the dog is dead. Oh, he's already dead. Yeah, so what do you do? ### 3:09:25 seg-0347 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0347` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0347](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0347) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11365s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11365s) I mean, in the context of Jesus, you punish yourself in a way. So they would see that what you did hurt them more. And so to forgive them, you have to punish yourself. ### 3:09:46 seg-0348 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0348` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0348](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0348) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11386s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11386s) Yeah, okay, okay. So that's the logic, okay? All right? So like, because you're kind of screwed, okay? If you don't do anything, what's Eve going to do next? Kill more animals, okay? So you cannot do anything. You cannot do nothing. You got to be like, I forgive you, Eve. Oh, you're just a kid. Don't worry about it, okay? You have to do something, okay? But if you punish her, that proves to her you love the dog more, right? So anything you do, you're kind of screwed. So your only solution, okay? A million possibilities. A million possibilities is you punish yourself. You hit yourself to show Eve, I have to punish you, but you punish yourself. And when she sees that, what does she think? She thinks, my father, my mother truly, truly loves me. And will she ever kill an animal again? No, okay? Because she's seen what will happen if an animal dies. The parents will suffer. ### 3:10:47 seg-0349 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0349` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0349](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0349) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11447s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11447s) And so she's convinced by it. She's convinced by the love of the parent. And therefore, she's now fully committed to loving her parents to the best of the ability, okay? That's the logic behind the sacrifice of Jesus. To show all of us that God truly loves us so that we can now return to loving God. This is reconciliation, okay? Does it make sense, guys? Yes? ### 3:11:13 seg-0350 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0350` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0350](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0350) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11473s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11473s) I think this is a very strange metaphor because if I was the parent, I would send Eve to therapy. You would send what? I would send Eve to therapy. I think this is a very absolute situation. It's either punishment or it's allowance. Why couldn't there be a middle? Why couldn't there be education in the middle? ### 3:11:34 seg-0351 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0351` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0351](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0351) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11494s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11494s) Okay. You send Eve to therapy. Okay. What does the therapist tell Eve? ### 3:11:47 seg-0352 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0352` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0352](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0352) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11507s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11507s) I'm not a therapist, but therapy has been proven to work on a range of conditions, including, including sociopathy. ### 3:11:56 seg-0353 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0353` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0353](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0353) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11516s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11516s) Okay, but like, but like, like we're just doing this in Foxburg, okay? All right. You know what? I'm gonna call the police and the police are gonna come and arrest Eve. Oh, you know what? Screw this. I'm gonna call the therapist. The therapist will come and solve this problem with me. Will this make things worse or better? ### 3:12:14 seg-0354 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0354` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0354](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0354) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11534s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11534s) Why? Well, the therapist would probably side with Eve and then they would like start to like call the dad a bad parent or something. ### 3:12:26 seg-0355 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0355` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0355](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0355) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11546s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11546s) No, no, no. What's the therapist gonna do? Have you guys been to a therapist? Therapists don't do that. ### 3:12:32 seg-0356 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0356` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0356](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0356) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11552s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11552s) They're gonna interrogate Eve and that's probably gonna make her very uncomfortable. ### 3:12:37 seg-0357 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0357` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0357](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0357) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11557s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11557s) So they'll probably, a therapist will probably make her take pills. Okay. Right. And that's a punishment. In which case, what, what, what does it tell Eve about her parents? Her parents love her. They probably don't love her, man. Right. They're like, I don't wanna deal with this crap. I'm gonna send her to a therapist. Yeah. ### 3:13:00 seg-0358 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0358` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0358](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0358) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11580s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11580s) No, I think that's, uh, to be honest, I think, in the context of this metaphor, that is a really, uh, irresponsible way of thinking, because as a parent, I am not a psychological expert and I do not have the resources to help my child. And to help my child, I have to give her, I have to give my money and give my time to someone who is more licensed, who is more qualified than I am to help my child. ### 3:13:22 seg-0359 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0359` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0359](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0359) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11602s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11602s) You're, you're, what? But your parents know you the best. Like your parents should be the ones that could help you, not the random stranger. Like, I mean, ### 3:13:33 seg-0360 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0360` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0360](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0360) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11613s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11613s) it doesn't work here in China, bro. ### 3:13:36 seg-0361 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0361` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0361](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0361) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11616s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11616s) I don't, I don't think this is really, I don't think this is really relevant. I think that's the rational course of action. ### 3:13:43 seg-0362 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0362` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0362](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0362) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11623s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11623s) Yeah. But the point is not about what's rational to do. It's about like, Eve is trapped in this dilemma where she believes that if you send me to therapy, if you punish me by just a little bit in any means, anyway, it shows to me that you don't love me. Yeah. That's her logic. You know, then you, you kind of, in her logic, you have, you know, but how is therapy a punishment for her? It is a punishment. What are you slap her? You scold her. ### 3:14:11 seg-0363 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0363` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0363](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0363) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11651s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11651s) I guarantee you that if you kill a dog, okay, and you go to therapy, they're gonna make you take pills. I guarantee you. Okay. And that may not be the best solution. ### 3:14:23 seg-0364 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0364` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0364](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0364) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11663s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11663s) Yes. But as a parent, do we take these logic as, as permanent? Do we, do we accept that or do we, do we need to kind of, you know, do something on our own behalf to kind of try to, tweak that logic or change that logic? ### 3:14:37 seg-0365 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0365` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0365](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0365) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11677s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11677s) I'm actually confused, like how, there must be something wrong with Eve beforehand, like your education, right? ### 3:14:45 seg-0366 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0366` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0366](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0366) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11685s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11685s) Oh my God. ### 3:14:46 seg-0367 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0367` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0367](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0367) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11686s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11686s) For her to be able to kill the dog. This is just. ### 3:14:48 seg-0368 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0368` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0368](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0368) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11688s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11688s) Again, again, we need to use our imagination. ### 3:14:52 seg-0369 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0369` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0369](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0369) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11692s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11692s) Right. But I do, I do have kids. So it's, which is why this is particularly concerning for me. Like, I would be the first guy to try to kind of sit down with Eve and try to understand where she comes from. And then, and then we go from there, like maybe, maybe, you know. ### 3:15:11 seg-0370 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0370` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0370](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0370) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11711s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11711s) Listen, I, listen, I have three kids and any of them could pull this crap on, on us. I mean, like, that's just how kids are. I mean, like, I'm not saying my kids are going to do this, but I'm saying like, I can imagine them doing this thing, doing this crap on me. Yeah. ### 3:15:31 seg-0371 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0371` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0371](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0371) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11731s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11731s) So I noticed that a lot of you have like issues with outsourcing help for your kids. Well, what I have to say is your kid needs food and your kids needs water, right? So as a parent, are you going to farm the food yourself and get the water from the river yourself because you want to do everything for your kid because you're the one who knows them best? Of course not. ### 3:15:50 seg-0372 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0372` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0372](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0372) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11750s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11750s) But I don't understand why you're convinced that a therapist knows exactly what he or she is doing. You're convinced that a stranger with a PhD knows more about the child than you, the parent. ### 3:16:07 seg-0373 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0373` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0373](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0373) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11767s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11767s) Yes, I'm convinced that they know more than you. I'm not saying that they know everything. I'm convinced that they know more about the child's behavior, behavioral patterns than you do. ### 3:16:17 seg-0374 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0374` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0374](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0374) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11777s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11777s) Okay. But then there's the question of risk, right? Like the therapist has different skin in the game than you as the parent. So naturally, even though the therapist might, might have the set of tools, the application of those tools, coupled with the risks you take as the parent to the kid, I think in the end, the parent is still falls on the parent. Okay. ### 3:16:37 seg-0375 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0375` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0375](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0375) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11797s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11797s) Are you okay with this scenario, okay? Let's just say God's like, you know what, I really should send my son to crucify himself. That's kind of stupid. I don't know, dude. I'll create this alien species, okay, that is infinitely wise. I'll have them come and rule over humanity. Are you okay with that? ### 3:16:57 seg-0376 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0376` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0376](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0376) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11817s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11817s) It depends on what way they're winning over you. The thing about therapy that most people don't realize is that the therapist doesn't force you to believe anything. The therapist doesn't yell at you. The therapist asks you and they subtly guide you towards something better. They give you a choice. They give you your free will. They respect your free will. That's what a lot of people don't realize. ### 3:17:14 seg-0377 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0377` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0377](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0377) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11834s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11834s) Okay. So you and I just have to disagree about therapists. Okay. All right. Therapists don't actually, it doesn't matter. Okay. All right. Okay. But we're trying to explain the logic of Dante, right? And this is a really beautiful explanation. And I think it's a very convincing explanation for why Jesus had to die. Okay. It is not about redemption. It's not about justice or vengeance. It's really about inspiration and education, right? Because once we've seen and once we know that Jesus killed himself for our sins, it gives us a spiritual power. And it makes us closer to God. And this is why this marks a radical turning point. In human history. Does that make sense, guys? Okay. Because before you ask yourself, why is it there are 2 billion Christians in the world? I'm not a Christian, by the way. And why is it that everyone says that Christianity marks a radical turning point in human history? ### 3:18:27 seg-0378 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0378` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0378](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0378) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11907s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11907s) And now Dante provides an answer. Okay. Because the death of Jesus, the sacrifice of Jesus is able to rekindle a spark in us. That was once lost. Okay. It's drawn us closer to God. Before we were on the wrong path. We were in a desert. We were lost. And now we see the light and we're moving towards the light. Okay. All right. So do you guys understand the logic here? All right. Any questions about this? Okay. All right. But you can also see. And this is really important, guys. This beautiful explanation. Also subverts Catholic theology. Okay. Do you understand? Because before Catholic theology was based on vengeance and justice. Now it's based on love and sacrifice. Does that make sense, guys? Okay. Before the operating principle was one of fear, of vengeance. Now it's just love. Everything happens because God loves us. And that's why God had to be so careful and deliberate in his solution to this problem. ### 3:19:57 seg-0379 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0379` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0379](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0379) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11997s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=11997s) Okay. Got it? All right. Let's keep on reading. ### 3:20:03 seg-0380 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0380` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0380](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0380) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12003s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12003s) Verse 127. And yet these two were things created. If what has been said above is true, then these things never should be subject to corruption. Okay. ### 3:20:15 seg-0381 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0381` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0381](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0381) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12015s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12015s) All right. So the question is, if it is true that God is perfect, everything God does is perfect, why does imperfection exist in the world? For example, our bodies, right? Our bodies are imperfect. We feel pain. We die. So why is there imperfection in the world? Keep on going. ### 3:20:49 seg-0382 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0382` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0382](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0382) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12049s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12049s) Verse 130. Brother, the angels in the pure country where you are now, these may be said to be created, as they are in all their being. Whereas the elements that you have mentioned, as well as those things that are made from them, receive their form from a creative power. The matter they contain had been created, just as within the stars that wheel about them, the power to give form had been created. The rays and motion of the holy lights draw them to the light. They bring forth the soul of every animal and plant from matter able to take form. But your life is breathed forth immediately by the chief good who so enamors it of his own self that it desires him always. So, reasoning, you also can deduce your resurrection. You need but remember the way in which your human flesh was fashioned when both of the first parents were created. Okay. ### 3:21:50 seg-0383 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0383` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0383](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0383) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12110s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12110s) All right. Okay. So, why is there imperfection in the world? Why is it that plants wither and die? Why is it that we wither and die? Why? If God is perfect, everything God creates is perfect, then why is there imperfection in the world? Yes? ### 3:22:15 seg-0384 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0384` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0384](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0384) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12135s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12135s) If everything is perfect, there's no meaning. ### 3:22:18 seg-0385 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0385` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0385](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0385) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12138s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12138s) Okay. What does Dante say? I mean, Dante tells us. Okay. Yes? ### 3:22:23 seg-0386 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0386` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0386](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0386) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12143s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12143s) Because of the original sin. ### 3:22:25 seg-0387 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0387` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0387](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0387) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12145s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12145s) Excuse me? ### 3:22:26 seg-0388 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0388` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0388](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0388) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12146s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12146s) Because of the original sin in the Garden of Eden when the humans sinned. ### 3:22:31 seg-0389 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0389` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0389](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0389) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12151s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12151s) But that doesn't explain the plants and the animals and decay. Yes? ### 3:22:41 seg-0390 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0390` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0390](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0390) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12161s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12161s) So, God is perfect and he make us imperfect. So, therefore, we can be better. Therefore, God can be more perfect. ### 3:22:53 seg-0391 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0391` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0391](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0391) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12173s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12173s) Okay. All right. So, what this is saying, okay, is that God's perfection, right? Does God have the time to create the stone or the plant? Does he? Does God care? This table, was this created by God? This table? What created this table? Yes. And how did we create this table? From trees? And what created trees? God created the trees? God created the small trees and it became a big tree. Right? ### 3:23:42 seg-0392 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0392` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0392](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0392) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12222s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12222s) Seeds. Seeds. ### 3:23:43 seg-0393 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0393` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0393](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0393) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12223s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12223s) So, God created the seeds. ### 3:23:46 seg-0394 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0394` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0394](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0394) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12226s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12226s) Okay. ### 3:23:52 seg-0395 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0395` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0395](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0395) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12232s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12232s) Right. So, do you guys understand? God created the laws of the universe. Do you understand? The laws of the universe is what gives rise to plants, seeds that become trees. Right? That's following the law of the universe. But God created these laws of the universe. And then God lets these laws of the universe. Do what they do. Okay? Do you understand? So, it's God who created the laws of physics who are governed by the laws of physics. Okay? How are we different from the other creations in the world? Okay? All the other creations in the world are governed by the laws of physics and biology and chemistry. Okay? These laws are perfect. These things that are created are not perfect. We are different. How are we different? ### 3:24:42 seg-0396 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0396` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0396](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0396) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12282s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12282s) Yes? We have consciousness and we have free will. So, we can direct our own fate and we can subvert some laws that animals are bound to. For example, instincts. We can suppress instincts. ### 3:24:58 seg-0397 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0397` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0397](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0397) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12298s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12298s) Okay. Yes. But I'm asking you how this happened. Right? Because God creates the laws of the universe which then gives rise to everything, including us. But we're different from everything else. Right? So, how is this possible? Yes? ### 3:25:16 seg-0398 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0398` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0398](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0398) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12316s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12316s) Because we are made in the image of God, but all the other creatures aren't. And so, we have his traits, I guess, or we are most like him. So, we have free will. ### 3:25:27 seg-0399 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0399` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0399](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0399) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12327s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12327s) Yeah, but how did your body come into being? Does your body follow the laws of biology? Yes, it does. Right? So, what happened? Why are we different from animals or trees? ### 3:25:44 seg-0400 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0400` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0400](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0400) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12344s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12344s) Oh, yeah. Maybe... Okay. Yeah. According to the Bible, I remember Genesis, it said that the God who just did not allow the human to eat the fruits. Right? But the human just chose to eat the wisdom fruit. So, it means that he betrayed God. Right? So... ### 3:26:03 seg-0401 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0401` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0401](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0401) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12363s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12363s) Okay, guys. Guys, we are trying to read Dante. Okay? Okay? It's like... Let's read line 139 to the end again. Okay? He tells you the answer. Just read it carefully. We'll read it first. Okay? Okay. ### 3:26:17 seg-0402 - Speaker: SPEAKER_08 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0402` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0402](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0402) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12377s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12377s) So, the grace and motion of the holy lights draw forth the soul of every animal and plant from matter able to take form. But your life is breathed forth immediately by the chief good who so enamors it of his own self that it desires him always. So, reasoning, you also can deduce your resurrection. You need but remember the way in which your human flesh was fashioned when both of the first parents were created. ### 3:26:54 seg-0403 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0403` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0403](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0403) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12414s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12414s) Okay. Why are we different from animals and trees? We have a soul. Excuse me? We have a soul. How do we know we have a soul? Yeah. It says here, guys, you have to read Dante. Okay? Your life is breathed forth immediately by the chief good. Okay? Do you understand? And how do we know this? Because it says so in the Bible. It says so in the Bible. He says so in the Bible. Right. How did God create Adam? There's no. How did God create Adam? What is Adam crafted by? ### 3:27:31 seg-0404 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0404` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0404](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0404) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12451s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12451s) Dust and soil. ### 3:27:33 seg-0405 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0405` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0405](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0405) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12453s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12453s) Dust and then what happens? ### 3:27:34 seg-0406 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0406` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0406](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0406) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12454s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12454s) God breathes into him and brings into him. ### 3:27:37 seg-0407 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0407` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0407](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0407) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12457s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12457s) God breathed into him and that's what gives Adam life, okay. So, in other words, God put a part of himself in us. We call this the soul. and because god put a part of himself in us what is our greatest aspiration to desire him to return to god you understand it's like i give you my finger okay and like my finger is like i would rather be part of a whole okay so your finger is always desiring to return to him do you understand okay so that's what this is saying this is saying that god breathed himself into us there's an aspect of god in us and this aspect is always looking to return to god at the same time god is always calling for us to return to him okay and this is a fundamental logic of the universe everything we do is because we want to return to god okay it doesn't mean ### 3:28:42 seg-0408 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0408` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0408](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0408) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12522s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12522s) we know how to do so but ### 3:28:44 seg-0409 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0409` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0409](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0409) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12524s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12524s) we want to do so right that doesn't make sense then then why do we need to live in the first place like why do why do we need to live why did god create adam what does the bible ### 3:29:02 seg-0410 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0410` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0410](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0410) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12542s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12542s) say why did god create adam god wanted relationship he was lonely man yeah he wanted to know himself ### 3:29:13 seg-0411 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0411` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0411](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0411) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12553s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12553s) he was lonely right yes so i have a question so according to this theoretical framework like you ### 3:29:22 seg-0412 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0412` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0412](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0412) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12562s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12562s) have humans and you have other life as in planted animals so technically planted animals are closer in perfect almost blind obedience to god's natural laws that is the laws of physics and the laws of biology while we humans consistently defy these these laws no that's the complete opposite of ### 3:29:42 seg-0413 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0413` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0413](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0413) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12582s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12582s) what i just said yes none of them have souls okay so god creates a universe the universe is governed by these laws that he creates okay the laws of physics this gives rise to everything including evolution which creates us right what makes what makes us unique is the power of the soul god touches us god put apart himself into us and this part of our ourselves that we don't really know the soul what it what it always desires is returned to the whole we're apart we want to return to the whole okay everything we do is because we desire to return to the whole okay does that make sense yeah that's our greatest desire to return to the whole we may not know it we would be we may be ignorant of it but that's what we what we truly truly aspire okay all right um so reasoning you can deduce your own resurrection you ### 3:30:43 seg-0414 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0414` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0414](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0414) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12643s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12643s) need to remember the way in which your human flesh was fashioned when both of the first parents were created what does this mean what's the message here yes go ahead so basically he was saying that ### 3:31:09 seg-0415 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0415` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0415](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0415) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12669s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12669s) um both of the first parents referred to adam and eve obviously and basically he is restating that thing in christianity where the soul is immortal so if you can remember a time before your corrupt flesh then you're immortal now yes exactly okay uh sorry did ### 3:31:26 seg-0416 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0416` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0416](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0416) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12686s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12686s) you want to say something okay so what this thing is like remember that you think you're a body you think you're human but what you are really is an aspect of god that's what your soul is an aspect of god and that makes you eternal okay so in other words you can't possibly die you can only be reborn and we be reborn okay so if this is the case what's the purpose of life right because today you're taught that the purpose of purpose of life is to seek immortality to live forever to be wealthy right don't die but this is telling us well you were going to die anyway who cares ### 3:32:20 seg-0417 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0417` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0417](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0417) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12740s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12740s) then what's the purpose of life then yes somehow i believe life is just about being happy make yourself as happy as possible without harming other people but i'm pretty sure that this is the perspective that dante explicitly disagrees with what would donnie say um well he rejects the materialism of the catholic church obviously and basically he's the pilgrim dante is alive here he is a flesh and blood here and yet he is he is climbing up to heaven he is climbing up to heaven yeah yeah exactly he's up into heaven so basically what he's trying to say what i think he's trying to say is that oh we have to pursue not material pleasures but a spiritual good okay ### 3:33:07 seg-0418 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0418` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0418](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0418) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12787s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12787s) so um anyone else what was the point of our existence oh yeah maybe because the god just ### 3:33:13 seg-0419 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0419` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0419](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0419) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12793s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12793s) tried to come back so he just hoped that people can bring him back because we're a part of them we're just like maybe the signal or what he just wait wait us to to bring him back just like we make machine machine man right or robert robert will sometimes bring out so are you saying that god wants to come here yeah he will come back because he leave away right he will come back so just like he said i will come back if you trust me and i will come back i don't understand why god wants ### 3:33:40 seg-0420 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0420` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0420](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0420) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12820s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12820s) to come here okay anyone else yeah i think in the last few lines he kind of says that we want to desire him so to know him and become like him i guess and just like even in paradise you want to him even in paradise yeah but i'm saying how do you do that then i guess to know him and be more ### 3:34:08 seg-0421 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0421` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0421](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0421) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12848s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12848s) like him or desire i i know but i'm saying how right i think i think dante would dante would say um the point of life is to to love and to imagine you use imagination okay so these ### 3:34:23 seg-0422 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0422` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0422](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0422) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12863s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12863s) things are the same thing the the goal is to love okay why would that be the most important thing you can do in life yeah because god is love i understand that god is love um but what's different but what's different between our world and his world why are we here um because we're ### 3:35:04 seg-0423 - Speaker: SPEAKER_13 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0423` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0423](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0423) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12904s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12904s) i mean according to dante like we're fragments of this love right if god is love we're fragments of this love and we our journey for each and every one of us is to return to the source so okay but then like why not to kill yourself like right now no you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to return to the source if you kill yourself that's not that's that will lead you then how do you return to the source to love to amplify whatever that is within us which was breathed into us in order to to get closer to the source okay anyone else we should act in ### 3:35:43 seg-0424 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0424` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0424](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0424) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12943s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12943s) accordance with natural law what is natural law the morality that's set ### 3:35:49 seg-0425 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0425` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0425](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0425) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12949s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12949s) up by god okay right okay try to be specific okay yes did you have a okay all right anyone else ### 3:36:01 seg-0426 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0426` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0426](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0426) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12961s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12961s) yes maybe we should try to experience experience more we should experience more because god can can't experience as a human okay all right okay okay so let's film all this okay everything god ### 3:36:19 seg-0427 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0427` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0427](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0427) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12979s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=12979s) does is perfect everything god does is for a perfect reason he created this world which is governed by perfect laws but it's imperfect in that well uh there's evil there's pain there's hunger there's agony there's suffering what's the point of all this why would he create a world like this yes well ### 3:36:48 seg-0428 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0428` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0428](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0428) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13008s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13008s) if i didn't know about whole baptism thing i would say that we are here and we have to live a full life and we have to live a good life because we have original sin and we have to redeem our souls which are after all afflicted with original sin from the adam and eve business from original sin but there's this whole baptism thing and therefore my explanation is no one void all right so an ### 3:37:10 seg-0429 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0429` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0429](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0429) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13030s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13030s) idea that you guys need to remember is like we don't have to redeem ourselves because jesus already did it for us if you understand okay this is a major assumption of divine comedy so now the question then is if we're redeemed i mean that we Everything that is done is for a purpose. Everything that's in the mind of God, everything he does is for a perfect reason. What is the purpose of this world that we live in? ### 3:37:43 seg-0430 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0430` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0430](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0430) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13063s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13063s) Maybe there's just like experiment. How about we're living in two worlds. The one world is perfect world, just what God created. There's no misery, no thing, everything is perfect. But the other world is like us, where it may be just like hell. We're in agony and we're in despair. So maybe God tried to test or tried to make experiment. Just like we put rats into two maids and try to find out if it's just given the right to the food and I'd like to circle around the maids. So the rat will try to knock down the door and try to find the food. So maybe. Yes, go ahead. ### 3:38:23 seg-0431 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0431` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0431](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0431) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13103s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13103s) Love is made perfect in pain and agony. Maybe like that way. So it's can you explain like you cannot show or exercise or prove love without paying a price for it. So then the other side of the coin is that you have to pay a price or you have to deal with some sort of ugly evil things to see what's beautiful. Maybe. ### 3:38:45 seg-0432 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0432` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0432](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0432) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13125s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13125s) Yeah, but I mean like why would God do this? What's the point of this? Okay. All right. Let me ask you this question. What is it that we have? That God doesn't have? Flesh. Human body. Okay. Is that impressive? ### 3:39:11 seg-0433 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0433` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0433](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0433) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13151s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13151s) Mortality. ### 3:39:12 seg-0434 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0434` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0434](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0434) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13152s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13152s) Mortality. Death. Yes. Imperfection. Imperfection. Yes. We can be evil. Yes. Okay. Okay. Let's let's now step back and think about what's happening. Okay. Beatrice and Dante are together, right? What's the relationship? What's the relationship? ### 3:39:36 seg-0435 - Speaker: SPEAKER_07 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0435` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0435](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0435) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13176s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13176s) Teacher -student. ### 3:39:37 seg-0436 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0436` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0436](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0436) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13177s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13177s) Exactly. It's a teacher -student, right? Because Dante is asking questions and Beatrice is providing answers. Are Beatrice's answers perfect? Are they perfect? Are they the absolute truth? Yes, they are. Yeah. I understand you can argue with her, but I'm saying like in. ### 3:39:57 seg-0437 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0437` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0437](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0437) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13197s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13197s) I'm saying that in the, in Paradiso itself, like Beatrice admitted that her, her words are but an imperfect reflection of the truth. Like she is trying to communicate the truth. But she is doing it to Dante, and Dante is not able to take the truth in his present form. ### 3:40:15 seg-0438 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0438` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0438](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0438) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13215s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13215s) Okay. All right. Okay. Let's, okay, let, let's take it step by step. Okay. First, we've established that the relationship between Beatrice and Dante is teacher -student. Okay. That's point one. Point two is even though you could be right in like what Beatrice, how Beatrice expresses herself for Dante is imperfect. Her understanding of the universe is perfect. Correct. Yes. Because she represents God. Everything she says. Is perfect. We may not understand what she says. Donnie may misinterpret what she said, but everything she says is perfect. Okay. That's number two. Number three then is what then is the point of teaching Dante? ### 3:40:58 seg-0439 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0439` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0439](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0439) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13258s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13258s) So that he can be the mouthpiece and tell people. ### 3:41:01 seg-0440 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0440` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0440](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0440) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13261s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13261s) Okay. ### 3:41:02 seg-0441 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0441` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0441](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0441) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13262s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13262s) Like a prophet. ### 3:41:02 seg-0442 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0442` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0442](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0442) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13262s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13262s) So, so historically. ### 3:41:05 seg-0443 - Speaker: SPEAKER_09 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0443` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0443](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0443) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13265s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13265s) Can I answer? Yeah. Well, Dante, the divine comedy is you go through hell for us to get to heaven. So earth is hell and you can learn in that. Yeah. From all the materialistic things you can learn if they're good or not, and then return to God yourself, but you have to go through in front of us. Okay. All right. ### 3:41:24 seg-0444 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0444` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0444](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0444) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13284s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13284s) So in the Bible, there is a book called Ezekiel. Okay. Ezekiel. You can actually draw it up. Okay. Okay. Right. So we're going to ask Google. Okay. How does Ezekiel receive the word of God? All right. So Ezekiel, it's a book of the Bible. And he goes up to heaven and he goes up to heaven to receive the word of God, just like Dante is receiving the word of God. How does Ezekiel receive the word of God? Do you think? Okay. So it is stupid. Okay. No, no, no. If you read the Bible. Okay. How does Ezekiel literally receive the word of God to me? ### 3:42:24 seg-0445 - Speaker: SPEAKER_05 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0445` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0445](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0445) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13344s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13344s) Because speak to God. He had a relationship with God. ### 3:42:26 seg-0446 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0446` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0446](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0446) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13346s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13346s) No, no, no. What God did was take the scrolls. Right. The scrolls carry his message. And then what did God do? He stuffed it into the mouth of Ezekiel. And Ezekiel literally ate it. Do you understand? If you want to make sure the prophet delivers the right message, you stuff it down his throat. Do you understand? So why is Peter just wasting all this time dealing with Dante? Yes. ### 3:43:08 seg-0447 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0447` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0447](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0447) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13388s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13388s) What did Ezekiel agree to have this stuff down his throat? ### 3:43:13 seg-0448 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0448` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0448](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0448) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13393s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13393s) So like Dante is going through this experience and not just have all of the information stuffed down his throat because the journey is what matters more than the information. ### 3:43:24 seg-0449 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0449` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0449](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0449) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13404s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13404s) Don't you think accuracy matters more? Like if God wants to deliver message to his people, don't you think like accuracy matters? Right. ### 3:43:34 seg-0450 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0450` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0450](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0450) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13414s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13414s) I think it's not about like, is it? Maybe it's the idea that it's not. The end result or the accuracy. There's not a right answer, but it's the individual transformation and the individual journey that matters more. ### 3:43:49 seg-0451 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0451` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0451](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0451) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13429s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13429s) Why, though? I'm trying to figure this out. Okay. I'm trying to figure. Okay. Like in Ezekiel, you can just stuff the message down a person's throat so that he never forgets it. Okay. And he must quote it word for word. Right. But not only does Dante. But not only does Beatrice not stuff anything down her throat, but what happens after Dante goes home? Do you guys remember what happens after he goes home? ### 3:44:20 seg-0452 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0452` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0452](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0452) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13460s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13460s) He forgets a bunch of things. He forgets everything. Not everything. ### 3:44:24 seg-0453 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0453` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0453](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0453) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13464s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13464s) Basically everything. Okay. This is like really weird to like forgot to deliver message to people. Like let's pick a guy who I have to teach and then he'll probably forget most of everything I teach. And he's going to go back and he's going to have to remember everything. Okay. This is a really silly way of doing things. But God is perfect. Everything God does is for a reason. So what's the reason? ### 3:44:51 seg-0454 - Speaker: SPEAKER_12 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0454` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0454](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0454) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13491s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13491s) So can it be that God wants us to utilize our one gift that he's given us, free will, to freely choose to be nearer to him. And we each have to take that trip or that process individually. Dante can't take that trip for us. ### 3:45:09 seg-0455 - Speaker: UNKNOWN - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0455` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0455](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0455) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13509s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13509s) Okay. ### 3:45:10 seg-0456 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0456` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0456](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0456) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13510s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13510s) Yeah. That's correct. Okay. So how can Dante deliver this message? Or how can Dante help us go on this journey ourselves? ### 3:45:27 seg-0457 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0457` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0457](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0457) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13527s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13527s) By writing this book. ### 3:45:29 seg-0458 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0458` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0458](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0458) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13529s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13529s) Exactly. There you go. This is why this had to happen. Okay. What is it that we have that God doesn't have? How is Dante able to write this? ### 3:45:42 seg-0459 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0459` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0459](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0459) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13542s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13542s) We have a concept of space and time. ### 3:45:46 seg-0460 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0460` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0460](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0460) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13546s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13546s) So like. How did Dante write this? Yes? ### 3:45:51 seg-0461 - Speaker: SPEAKER_06 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0461` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0461](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0461) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13551s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13551s) Oh, I know. We don't know things. God is all knowing. God knows everything. So we can. ### 3:45:59 seg-0462 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0462` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0462](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0462) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13559s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13559s) How did Dante write The Divine Comedy? Dante is channeling God. He channeled God, but it was through him, right? So what did he do? ### 3:46:12 seg-0463 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0463` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0463](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0463) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13572s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13572s) One thing that he utilized, the things that he was trying to preach against as in logic and rationalism. ### 3:46:19 seg-0464 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0464` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0464](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0464) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13579s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13579s) What did he use to create this thing? Pencil and paper. Do you guys not have it? Imagination. The imagination. Do you understand? What is it that we have that God can't have? The imagination. What can God have? Imagination. He's perfect. Do you understand? If you're perfect, you know everything. You cannot fail. Therefore, you cannot have an imagination. Okay. That's why Beatrice cannot come to our world and communicate with us directly because she lacks the imagination to do so. Right? That's the entire point of this journey. Dante must go through this journey himself in order to experience the truth of God, but then he must use his imagination in order to help us go on our own journey, and that is by writing Divine Comedy. The entire purpose of his visit to heaven was so that he could write the Divine Comedy. Okay? Basically, he's a journalist, and he's been invited to heaven to do some ### 3:47:30 seg-0465 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0465` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0465](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0465) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13650s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13650s) reporting and come back and then write in a very nice way so that we can all go on this journey ourselves. Okay? That's why Dante had to go to heaven. That's why he had to write Divine Comedy. Okay? So that we can, by ourselves, go on this journey to heaven and discover what God truly is. Does that make sense, guys? Again, everything God does is for a perfect reason. If you don't know it, it's because you're not thinking hard enough. Okay? Yes? ### 3:48:09 seg-0466 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0466` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0466](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0466) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13689s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13689s) Okay. This might be pushing the point here, but if God is perfect and there's nothing that we have that he doesn't have, then how does we have imagination and he doesn't? ### 3:48:18 seg-0467 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0467` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0467](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0467) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13698s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13698s) Yeah. That's a good question. Why? What is it that we have that God doesn't have? ### 3:48:23 seg-0468 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0468` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0468](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0468) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13703s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13703s) Oh, yeah. Maybe because God is invincible because God can live forever, but life is limited so people have imagination because if you're limited, so you just always want to know more about... Yeah, exactly. ### 3:48:37 seg-0469 - Speaker: SPEAKER_01 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0469` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0469](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0469) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13717s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13717s) Yes. Go on. So imagination isn't a skill, something you have, it's something that you lack, so if you already know everything, there's nothing to imagine, but we can imagine because we have gaps in our thinking. ### 3:48:51 seg-0470 - Speaker: SPEAKER_03 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0470` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0470](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0470) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13731s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13731s) Yeah. Because our lives are limited, we want to transcend to higher realms or higher consciousness, that's why we imagine. ### 3:49:02 seg-0471 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0471` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0471](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0471) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13742s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13742s) Okay. Yeah. But the major point is that what Dante is saying is that we humans are not... We're not lesser beings. We are co -equal with God, because even though God has perfection, we have imagination. And so if you're God and you're trying to extend the boundaries of the universe, right? You're trying to create more things in the universe, you can't do so yourself because you're perfection, okay? So you must use humanity. So everything that happens is for a divine purpose. You understand? And as you say, the reason why we have the imagination is because we have bodies, and our bodies can suffer, bodies can feel pain, bodies can die. And what excites the imagination is the fact that we can ask questions, we can make mistakes, we can not know. Okay? Does that make sense? Yes? ### 3:50:10 seg-0472 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0472` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0472](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0472) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13810s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13810s) So we're going quantity over quality here, right? Because God could create anything he wants, but he is absolutely perfect. So he is tired of having to create everything. And so he wants people to create more things that he couldn't think of. But these things are going to be imperfect because these people who create are going to be imperfect too. Is that right? ### 3:50:34 seg-0473 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0473` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0473](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0473) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13834s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13834s) Okay. So let's just say you're God, okay? And you want to create a perfect world. And you do create a perfect world. What's the problem with that? It becomes eternal, right? What is eternity? ### 3:50:55 seg-0474 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0474` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0474](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0474) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13855s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13855s) Nothing ever changes. ### 3:50:57 seg-0475 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0475` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0475](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0475) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13857s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13857s) Eternity is death. You understand that? Eternity is death. So your only solution to life is infinity. Does that make sense? God is eternal. We are infinite. Love is eternal. The imagination is infinite. Okay? God is not capable of the imagination. Therefore, God had to create us. Okay? Does it make sense to you guys? ### 3:51:30 seg-0476 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0476` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0476](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0476) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13890s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13890s) Yeah. Well, actually, I think God maybe just wants us forever because in the Bible it's that the people, they don't need to wear clothes. They're naked. And they got surrounded by light. They're in the light of God. So, I mean, they will live forever. But just because people would just, you know, try maybe out of curiosity. So, there's a world by the snake. So, it's just sitting, right? So, you just eat food. And there's another tree. Instead of the tree with the fruit, with the wisdom, there's another tree that is the longevity. But the people would just choose to pick the fruit from the wisdom. ### 3:52:08 seg-0477 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0477` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0477](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0477) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13928s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13928s) Okay. Okay. All right. Yeah. ### 3:52:09 seg-0478 - Speaker: SPEAKER_11 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0478` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0478](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0478) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13929s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13929s) Okay. Yes? Well, I have a related question. So, why haven't anybody else traveled to paradise and write a book just like Dante? Why there's billions of people that only Dante have went to paradise and wrote a book? What's the answer? ### 3:52:41 seg-0479 - Speaker: SPEAKER_15 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0479` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0479](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0479) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13961s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13961s) Well, I don't know if I can answer your question. But I do. You know, just like maybe I was in my dream that I can see something. In my dream that I was in hell. And in hell, people just feel suffer. But there's another place that I also can say in my dream is that people think everything is for free. You know? Everything is for free. So, that's really chaotic. Yeah. Maybe there's so many universe. Some of the universe just, you know, people just like based some of the universe. ### 3:53:11 seg-0480 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0480` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0480](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0480) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13991s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=13991s) Why was there a Jesus? Why couldn't there be a second Jesus? There was only one Jesus. Why was there just one Jesus? Someone else can't come and be another Jesus? Why not? ### 3:53:22 seg-0481 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0481` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0481](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0481) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14002s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14002s) Because Jesus is a facet of God. And if another Jesus comes in and also says, oh, we're going to redeem you of all your sins. Why? Because that's basically saying the first Jesus didn't do his job. So the first Jesus will be imperfect. And that wouldn't be very nice. That wouldn't. ### 3:53:37 seg-0482 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0482` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0482](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0482) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14017s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14017s) Okay. Okay. So, I think Dante was a messenger from God. Okay. So, you asked a question earlier today. How did Dante, how was Dante able to do what he did? Okay. So, here's some facts about Dante. The man died without a country. He was in exile. He was living off the generosity of his patrons. And after he finished Divine Comedy in 1321, he died a few months later. Okay. He didn't experience any fame. He was never paid for Divine Comedy. And as you can see, it is really hard. Okay. It's hard for us to read it, but imagine how hard it is to write it. But he was doing it without a particular reward. What was his reward for doing this? He was not famous in his time. He became famous later. In fact, while he was alive, he was despised by his own people, the Florentines. In fact, the Catholic Church was so angry at him, they actually wanted to take up his body and burn him at the stake. ### 3:54:52 seg-0483 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0483` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0483](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0483) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14092s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14092s) Okay. So, what motivated the man? How was he able to focus 20 years of his life on writing something that may or may not have been burned by the Catholic Church, that may or may not be read by people? Okay. And the only answer that I think makes sense is the moment he was born, he knew what his mission was. And throughout his entire life. Okay. Okay. All of the Divine Comedy, in its complete form, appeared to him in certain fragments. And in his head, he kept on imagining these different parts. And then when he finally conceptualized the entirety of the Divine Comedy, he then wrote it down. Okay. And why I say this is, okay, I have problems understanding what motivated the man for 20 years to write the divine comedy but also like think about the impact ### 3:56:08 seg-0484 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0484` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0484](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0484) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14168s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14168s) of the divine comedy in our world not only is divine comedy the source for the renaissance it's also the source for the present reformation signing revolution the enlightenment modernity itself it changed the entire world by itself and you're telling me this is all an accident and you're telling me oh well you know he just he just got lucky 20 years every day working his ass off to put this together not knowing if it'll be read one day and a hundred years after it is published it forever changed the world it is recognized today as the most important literary achievement in human history today we read it and we can see its power even though we are no longer part of his world right even if you don't know any history you can still read the divine comedy and feel its beauty feel its power how is this possible unless this is all designed by god ### 3:57:18 seg-0485 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0485` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0485](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0485) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14238s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14238s) unless dante was a messenger of god himself and he knew from an early age this is his mission and he structured his entire life for this mission i don't know yes again i think that's a very absolute perspective and ### 3:57:34 seg-0486 - Speaker: SPEAKER_04 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0486` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0486](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0486) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14254s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14254s) i think it actually diminishes the value of dante and of the divine comedy as a humanist so uh the renaissance is characterized by his humanism while it is not separate from in the catholic church while it's still heavily influenced by religion i think it's important to know that dante was a great person and that he did not need a god to make his writing even greater similarly we do not need a god to understand to understand what dante wrote to appreciate it for its greatness i think as humans our value is enough okay um i don't disagree with ### 3:58:09 seg-0487 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0487` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0487](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0487) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14289s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14289s) okay but like like i want to emphasize certain points about this class okay first of all this is not an academic seminar this is about intellectual speculation it's about going on a journey like dante went on his journey to figure out the structure the secrets of the universe itself that's point one point two is on this journey it has to be a leap of faith okay you have to believe that this is divine you have to believe this is perfection you have to believe that when you enter the divine comedy you are entering into the soul of the universe itself and my argument to you is that if you take this leap of faith if you open your heart if you open your mind and you fully embrace the divine comedy you'll be transformed by it okay and you know what if it is not true there's actually no harm to you okay but if ### 3:59:04 seg-0488 - Speaker: SPEAKER_02 - Source ref: `video:predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg@transcript:v1#seg-0488` - Transcript segment: [https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0488](https://jianglens.com/episodes/predictive-history-ef5b3cwpkxg/transcript/#seg-0488) - Video timestamp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14344s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5B3CWpKxg&t=14344s) i'm correct this could be the most life transforming experience in your life so why not just take the risk put away your delusions or your beliefs about our world and fully embrace divinity okay and i'm saying only by doing that can you truly appreciate the divine comedy is that clear to you guys okay okay that's it for today we'll continue tomorrow okay