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# Dante #1:  Paradise Cantos 1-5 transcript

- Source: [Dante #1:  Paradise Cantos 1-5](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AG3EMDvKT0)
- Published: 2026-06-17, day precision
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## Transcript

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Okay, good morning. We are live in Beijing. Welcome to our very first YouTube live stream. First, I would like to thank Carol of the Yale Beijing Center. She and her team have put everything together. It's been a fantastic two weeks with Carol and her team. So thanks so much, Carol, for putting this together. I would also like to thank everyone who is in the room today. Some of you have come a very long way. I promise you this will be a very interesting class. I hope this is a life -transforming experience for you. Dante is the greatest writer of all time. And third, I would thank everyone who is participating in the live stream around the world. We are having someone monitor the chat. So if you have a question, feel free to ask a question on chat and we will respond in real time. So we will begin class, but first I would like to introduce Carol and maybe introduce your beautiful center.

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Thank you. Thank you, John. So hello and welcome. My name is Carol A. Rafferty. I am a Yale College alumna and John's classmate.

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Yep.

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For those new to Yale Center Beijing, Yale Center Beijing, since 2014, is Yale University's first university -wide center outside of its campus and a place for intellectual dialogue and the exchange of ideas. Through workshops such as today's. We seek to advance Yale University's mission to create, disseminate, and preserve knowledge. So why are we here? John and I were classmates and schoolmates about 25 years ago. We are now both parents of three children.

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Yep.

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And like many parents, we wish to not only pass on our knowledge, but also to share it with the world. And not only pass on knowledge to the next generation, but also wisdom, a deeper understanding of what it means to be human. Yale's motto is Lux et Veritas in Latin and Urim et Tumim in Hebrew, which means light and truth. So through the exploration of Dante and the great books. we hope you will encounter beauty light and truth and also be able to wrestle with humanity's oldest questions what does it mean to be human how should we live what is worth striving for and that's why we're so excited to be doing

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this workshop together and don't you answer these questions yeah and without

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further ado I'll turn back to John and begin our journey without in the great

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books okay thank you so much okay so as you see from the screen we will be using this website that anyone can use it's all free the website address is there so the divine comedy is not into three parts inferno regulatory and paradise what we will do which is very strange is we are actually start in part three it will become obvious to you over time why we're doing that okay so today we're going to start with cunt one of paradise and the translation we will use is manabong so you are watching this on the live screen please go to the website or you can just actually just watch the screen because we will have the entire text on the screen but this web this is extremely valuable and we will be using it this entire two weeks. Okay, so the first thing I asked you guys to do was write one paragraph about what heaven is.

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Do we have any volunteers who can share? Yes. What is, yes, go ahead please.

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And you'll need to either use a handheld or press down on one of the mics.

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Yeah, continuously. Thanks. Heaven is a place of fulfillment, peace, and harmony where every entity can coexist. Negative feelings and behavior do not occur. We feel elevated by the fact that it feels like a destination and we are the best versions of ourselves. It's like we're above all what we have been through to only keep the best. Heaven has more to my eyes of a feeling aspect than a visual one. I could still imagine having bright vibrant colors, flowers, and animals. Great, that's beautiful.

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Thank you so much. Anyone else? Yes. Personally, I do not believe in

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existence of heaven, or if by some chance it does exist, I do not believe in its ubiquity. Yeah, that's not the answer I want though. Yeah, well, that's a surprise because I didn't think that was the answer you want. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask them in the Q &A. If there exists a heaven in any means of the word, for any religion, I would think that it's a place of joy, but also of exclusion and stagnation. The ideas of heaven are so radically different from one religion to another that reconciliation seems impossible, in which case heaven must be segregated. There is no change in heaven, it being in definition a deathless and perfect place, and so heaven is stagnation. Heaven is a construct comprised of the idea of what is good, held by each individual faithful. It is not essentially good except to the one who created it.

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It is the ultimate expression of life -faith. Okay, so that's very interesting because to answer this question you're using logic and reason, and this is something that they might ask you to do on an AP literature examination. For this class, if we are going to embrace Dante, we have to use our intuition and imagination, okay? That's something that will become much more clear as we read Dante, but the imagination is what will lead you to the true truth.

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Alright we have got someone here. Yes? To me, paradise is a place for eternal peace and happiness. There is no past and future, just eternal. Everyone there is full of meaning and purpose. The kind of joy and beauty in heaven is unfathomable. All the love and consciousness is intertwined together.

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That's beautiful. Yes, so perfection. Something that is pure joy. clients really enjoy! imagination. Yeah, good. Anyone else? Yes. I think it's where God is. So it's the typical

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Christian that has a view of life everlasting in the presence of God, eternal life, singing and worshiping God and doing whatever you love most in your little house and make sure that God has rewarded you based on what you have done in your present life, I guess. Yeah, so that's very interesting because what you just said is exactly what Augustine wrote in the City of God.

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He explained heaven as a place where you are right beside God and you're all singing together in unison. Have you read Augustine before? No. Okay, but that's a very Augustine answer. Yes?

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Hello, can you hear me? I think heaven is for us to meet God and to have a spiritual and intellectual connection with God and other divine forces. It's a place where we put down our ego and fear and engage in the act of salvation and personal enlightenment. Good, yeah. So ego and fear are things that...

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bind us to this material world. Thank you. Yes? Oh, can you hear me? Okay. So if I were in heaven and maybe Bruce Lee would lead me into the

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Kung Fu universe because I'm a big fan of Bruce Lee's Kung Fu and philosophy and then I could see my grandma and it would smell at me and embrace me into the arms and I also can see the tree -like stuffs and which can let people see messages from the living world and people who come from the living world would be nice to come to this new world and since there's no rule, there's no rule, there's no rule, there's no rule, there's no rule, there's no rule, there's no rule, no law but only the people who believe in your faith and destiny and meanwhile also can sense the God or Buddha or like who just sitting right there and keep lecturing to the people with the wisdom and thoughts and of course there was a boat which can transfer people from the dark sea to other shores and there must be ladylike beauty who spent

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the surprise happiness and married sins to all of them and if people who want to fly must be permitted so they could fly high above the ocean and lastly I want to see that world and there was no flash no so people don't need to worry about overweight or ugly look since everyone looked as light bulb or luminaries existence and that is my

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imagination yeah that's very interesting so what you're saying is that heaven is individualized meaning that whatever you perceive it is it becomes okay that's very interesting idea any more ideas okay all right good all right so let's begin all right so we're gonna go to two kind of one of Paradise and we're going to use the minimum translation and to set context again there are three different parts to the divine comedy there's inferno there's puritory and then there is paradise and what's happening is that the divine column knee it is a pilgrim's journey where Dante is traveling across the universe in order to meet God and he now has reached paradise this guy in paradise is Beatrice his long -lost love and now they are flying throughout the cosmos on the way to meet God and the heavens is divided into nine different spheres okay and the point I'm make is that Tony's perception or

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conception of the heavens is unique no one else has imagined heaven the way that Don D has and no one will probably ever imagine the way that he asked okay so what would it try to do these first two days is try to figure out what don't base cosmology is what is understanding all the heavens is and what he has constructed that heaven is is not what we imagined but destruction relevant visualization heavens in the way that he has okay so for the first day we're going to go very slowly we're going to establish the themes the motifs the concepts that's going to help us truly understand uh the divine common okay so um carol could you please go ahead and read the first three lines the

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concept yes the glory the glory of so picking up okay the glory of the one who moves all things permeates the universe and glows in one part more and in another less okay all right so um we're

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going to analyze these three lines but before i do so i want to introduce you to two literary concepts that we that we'll be using a lot uh when we analyze like comedy the first is the idea of paradox and this is actually the main literary device that dante will use for the vine comedy where things are not as simple as they seem there's a contradiction in the idea and it is your responsibility to try to unpack or reconcile the contradiction and through this process it is going to heighten your imagination and draw you closer to god okay so so this is the main literary device we're analyzing throughout these two two weeks okay daniel paradox second idea that we will be looking at is possibilities possibilities are created by two concepts and ambiguity as well as economy economy for those of you who study poetry it just means to use as few words as

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possible to describe as much as possible ambiguity means that a sentence or word can can contain multiple meanings okay so these are the two major literary devices we will be studying um in the divine comedy so first question is what's the paradox in these three lines what's the paradox here yes well i'm

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just shooting the dark here i'm not sure if i'm right but i would think that the glory of the one who moves all things by definition god is omnipotent and omnipresent however it says in the third line that it permits the universe it goes in one part more and in another less meaning

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that there's inequality even in heaven yeah that's exactly correct okay that's a paradox god can be everywhere at once yet there are certain parts where he is more in certain parts there is less that is a contradiction that is a paradox why would god who is all knowing all seeing all powerful why would the universe be constructed in a way like this okay that's a central paradox the divine company is trying to address. But then what are the possibilities? How can we reconcile this paradox?

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Yes? I think maybe it's because like for example God is more present in heaven but for example in the infernal we can because I've read the infernal actually and I can clearly see that like God's presence is less there so maybe we can reconcile this way. So I think that this doesn't contradict with his omnipotence or his omnipresence. It just means that he's more concentrated in a certain like dimension. Right but then the question then is like why does heaven and hell exist?

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God can make everything perfect, right? So why not to make everything heaven? Why does heaven and hell exist? Yes? Because in theology that would be the lack of God or the lack of God's presence.

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So there's free choice and freedom. Yes. There has to be free will so that there should be a heaven and a hell.

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Yes that's the correct answer. Yes there has to be. If you are to allow for free will you must allow for heaven and hell to exist. Can you explain why? Because if everything is heaven then there is no free choice.

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If there's choice then there will be consequence and there will be the wrong choice I guess and what happens with the wrong choice is probably hell or the lack of God's presence.

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Anyone else? Yes? Yeah maybe I think because we are just you know your flesh your body so if we got bodied then we must be locked right because we can't just get out of it but if there's possibility that people can get out of your body try to imagine okay I used to have such kind of nightmare when I was uh you know sleeping in my bed and I thought I was just out of there out of my body that really made me feel so so so crazy but what if there's really possibility that people really can get off your body just like consciousness or something maybe so maybe that's the reason why they have this theory is because people have their thoughts not only the body the flesh but also God's idea so they got thoughts maybe if the thoughts can be existed into another world just like safety in the cloud service or

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what maybe yeah so maybe that is what heaven means okay I suppose yeah all right so this is a

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central paradox in the divine comedy why does heaven exist why does hell exist okay and it has to be with the will so keep this in the back of your mind okay these are paradoxes being created and only by deep reflection deep observation by using intuition in your in your imagination you come to um an answer okay so this is a central paradox okay we've established that let's keep on going uh Carol do we continue please um should I do six or yeah okay I was within the heaven that

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receives more of his light and I saw things that he who from that height descends forgets or cannot speak or nearing its desire and our intellect sinks into an abyss so deep that memory fails to follow it okay so what donnie is

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saying here is that he has reached the heavens uh which receives more of his light and he saw things that from that height descends forgets or cannot speak daunte able to reach such heights there's a paradox here what does enable him to reach such heights that he's able to achieve heaven yes is it kind of the inversion because he's already gone

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through hell so he can then perceive how great heaven is yeah that is a possibility

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it is because he suffered pain because he's seen the worst that he's able to even to see um heaven yes that's a possibility good what are some other

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possibilities yes maybe he has never lost his love for beatrice because beatrice is kind of like um like the god sent angel so that reflects like his love for god and like the land gave

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that is true he's never lost his love his love for beatrice and that's why he is in paradise but so what what does love enable you to do that allows you to ascend i think that god is like the

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symbol of love so by like loving beatrice he's like there's like still this okay let's be careful

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with terminology god cannot be a symbol god exists right yeah okay keep on going so um i mean i'm not

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like an expert on this but i'm just thinking that like because like he's always loving so he's always like that's kind of like a virtue and

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it's not okay so i would just think about this okay um he's flying but what's propelled him into flight is the imagination right because from that height um once you reach a certain height you either descend or you forget or you cannot speak meaning like your imagination has to be so far that you might not be able to go even further so you just descend but you might also forget what you've imagined but the most likely possibility is you can't even describe in words what you've imagined okay so what's really important to understand is that divine company company uh comedy it's happening both at a metaphorical as well as a literal level literal in that he actually is in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in

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heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven but he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven and he's in heaven but metaphorically metaphorically metaphorically that he's also imagining all this and both that he's also imagining all this and both are sitting at the same time okay and are sitting at the same time okay and that's what poetry is poetry is both that's what poetry is poetry is both literal and metaphorical at the same time mind. So I want you guys to keep this in the back of your mind, because it's very important to fully understand what's going on. Neon hits his desired end. Our intellect sinks into an abyss so deep that memory fails to follow it. So Dante is imagining the heavens, and he's reached his desired end.

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He wants to be with God, but then his intellect, the logic, sinks into an abyss. So think of a stone that falls into a hole. It's falling really fast. And the memory is a bird trying to catch this stone before it falls. So that's what he's saying here. He's saying the imagination and the memory are two different things. Can you keep on going, Carol? CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Sure. The next three lines.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Nevertheless, as much as I am within my mind, the treasure of the Holy Kingdom shall now become the matter of my song.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Go on.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Oh, good Apollo, for this final task, make me the vessel of your excellence, which you, to merit your love floral, ask. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Go on. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Until this point, one of Parnassus' peaks sufficed for me. But now I face the test, the agon that is left. I need both crests.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: OK. All right. So let me explain this in context, OK? There are at least three Dantes in the Divine Comedy. There are at least three Dantes in the Divine Comedy. The first is the pilgrim, the protagonist, who is on this journey, OK? That's the first Dante. The second Dante is the historical Dante, the person who actually lived. And there's. The third Dante will appear, because he'll bring in some other historical figures into Divine Comedy. These are people he knows, OK? That's the second Dante. There's a third Dante. Who's the third Dante? Who would be the third Dante?

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Imaginative.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Excuse me?

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Imaginative Dante. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Can you explain what that means? Impressible, you know, like what he imagined himself to be, like in heaven or in other places of life.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: There's a third Dante? Yes?

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Yes.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Well, I don't think that he is the essential poet. Like, he is the essence of the poet. He's the archetype.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: It's not that hard, guys. There's a third Dante. Who is the third Dante? The first is the character, the protagonist. The second is the historical Dante, the real Dante. And who's the third Dante? Yeah?

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I'd just like to randomly guess one. The Dante in the future? CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: This is not a hard question, yes.

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The Dante that he imagines himself as.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: No, guys. Guys, there's a third Dante, yes?

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The reader.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: The reader. No, we're the reader. So who's the third Dante? Maybe the Holy Father, Holy Son. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: No, no, no, no. Guys, this is not hard. There's a third Dante. Who is the third Dante? The author. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: The writer. The guy who wrote this thing, OK? These are not the same people. There is the protagonist. There is the historical Dante, and there's the writer, the poet, OK? Let me ask you this question. If it is true that Dante is protagonist, then who's the antagonist, right? In a book, you have protagonist, you have an antagonist. Protagonist is Dante. Who's the antagonist?

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Satan. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Not Satan.

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We're in heaven. Satan doesn't exist in heaven. No. CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Yes?

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Maybe his old self or something that he used to.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Yes, exactly. Can you explain this?

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Because when people enter heaven, he's a new man. So that means he has to die to his old self to enter into this new form of pure existence.

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CAROL ANNE RIDDLE JR.: Yeah. So the idea here is that the conflict is between himself, OK? There is the Dante, the pilgrim, who is trying to see God, but there's Dante, the pilgrim, who has ego and fear and doubts, OK? And so this could be a struggle in the heavens. Dante will have to struggle with himself in order to let go of himself. Let go of his ego and his fears to truly understand the meaning of God. OK? And Beatrice will be his guide in this, OK? So we've established our three Dantes. And it's really important for us to understand that Dante, the poet, Dante, the real person, and Dante, the pilgrim, who is speaking now? Who's the person speaking? Who says, oh, good Apollo, for this final task, make me the vessel of your excellence? Who's speaking? The poet, right? That's the protagonist, the poet, all right? So what's happening is that this journey that Dante went on in the heavens, this is a long time ago.

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And Dante, the poet, is sitting at home, wherever he is, he's actually in exile, and he's trying to remember and write down what he experienced 20 years ago. Does that make sense? And what he's saying is that what he experienced 20 years ago was so beautiful, so beyond our comprehension that he's lost the memory of what happened 20 years ago. And so now he has to reconstruct, reimagine the experience. And to do that, he calls upon not only Apollo, but all the muses. Who live on the two mountains of Parnassus, right? So not just Apollo, but every possible source of inspiration he will call upon, he will invoke in order to truly remember what he experienced 20 years ago. Okay, does that make sense? What's the paradox here? There's a paradox in all this. What is it? He's Christian. Yeah, guys, this is a Christian text.

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This is a Christian text. It's meant for Christians. This is a Catholic world. The Catholic Church is in charge, and he's calling upon Apollo, right? Why is he doing this? What's he saying here? Yeah?

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So this just reminds me of the text of Gregory of Monmouth, who is actually a monk. He's literally part of the church, and before he wrote about King Arthur, he wrote in the preface, Oh, Apollo helped me to write King Arthur very well. So first off, maybe this is generally accepted within the current social atmosphere to invoke Apollo as an author, to ask him to make your writing really good.

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Okay, all right. So you just made a statement. Maybe this is just accepted at this time, but we know for a fact it's not accepted at this time. Carol, can you go to Google, please? Sure. And what we're going to do is we're going to Google medieval Christian art, okay? We're going to Google medieval Christian art, and we're just going to show images, okay? When you see the images, it's pretty consistent, okay? Can you go to images? Yes. Okay, guys. Can you see the images? There are lots and lots of images. This is all Christian art. What do you not see?

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You don't see the common man.

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Exactly, okay? You don't see anyone. You don't see any man. These are all sayings or just figures from the Bible, okay? That's point one. There is no common man in any of this. What's number two? What's another stark difference? These are all Christian figures, right? There's no paganism in any of these paintings. You don't have great gods. You don't have Apollo anywhere. Keep on looking. It doesn't exist. Why? Because the church banned these things, right? So, yes. There are Christians who are doing Volca Polo, but it's not a common thing. It's banned by the church, okay? So one thing to keep in mind is that throughout history, elite education is very different from popular art, okay? What the elite study at university, it's going to be very different from what you see in popular culture. Okay? And so the way they reconcile this is that at this time in history, this year 1321, when Dante is publishing the Divine Comedy or making it public, 1321, the elite learn Latin.

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And Latin is a secret language of the elite, right? And there you can invoke Apollo and it doesn't really matter. And then there is the vernacular, right? What people experience in everyday life. Okay? And that is heavily censored. Now, what is revolutionary of the Divine Comedy is that it is written not in Latin, which is the language of the elite, it's written in the vernacular, in Tuscan, which is what every ordinary person can read and access, okay? So this is a, the Divine Comedy, it's an act of rebellion in many ways, it's an act of revolution. If it was written in Latin, this would not be a problem. Okay? But it was written in the vernacular. Okay? And this is why the Divine Comedy will become the blueprint for not just the Renaissance, the Italian Renaissance, but all of modernity itself.

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Because the ideas in the Divine Comedy become central to modernity and the Renaissance. The other thing that's really important about art and popular culture at this time is there are no protagonists. Sorry. No, they are protagonists. But the common man is not in the artwork, it's not in the literature. But who's the main protagonist of the Divine Comedy? A common man, Dante. Okay? Individualism, individuality. So all these concepts we take for granted today were actually revolutionary and it was Dante who would launch this revolution. Okay? So this is not just a poem, it's an intellectual revolution. Okay? It's an act of courage. It's an act of faith. All right? So let's continue to read. Carol, enter into my breast.

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Enter into my breast. Within me breathed the very power you made manifest when you drew Marcius out of his limbs' sheath.

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Okay, stop. Okay, good. So the thing about Divine Comedy is that there are a lot of allusions in here. Okay? So... What Dante's going to do is he's going to reference a lot of mythology surrounding Apollo. So Apollo had a competition with another poet, Marcius, and they basically had a competition about who would be the better poet and Marcius' laws and Apollo basically skinned him alive. Okay? It's a pretty gruesome story, but there's a lot of mythology being driven into here. Keep on going.

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O godly force, if you so lend yourself to me, that I might show the shadow of the blessed realm inscribed within my mind.

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So again, this is paradoxical, where he is invoking Apollo in order to scry a Christian heaven. Okay? Keep on going.

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Then you would see me underneath the tree alone. Okay? There I shall take as crown the leaves of which my theme and you shall make me work.

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What's the tree that Apollo loves? Do you guys know?

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Laurel.

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The Laurel tree. Yes. Can you... Who said that? Okay. Can you... Do you know the legend here?

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And press the microphone. Yeah. So basically Apollo had a lover and the lover...

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No, no, no. He didn't have a lover. Yeah. He had someone he loved, right?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right. It never became a lover thing. So he had someone he loved and that person did not want to be his lover. Daphne. Daphne is her name. Yeah. And basically that person was running from Apollo because Apollo was chasing her. And that person told Athena, oh, please don't let Apollo be my lover. And Athena turned her into a laurel tree. And Apollo can no longer be her lover.

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Right. But Apollo loved her so much that he also makes the laurel tree his symbol, right? Yeah. So if you are a champion, a poet, he gives you the laurel leaves. Okay? So not only is Dante invoking Apollo, asking for his divine power, but he is also remembering or reciting the stories that make Apollo famous. Okay? What point is he trying to make here? Why is he doing this? Yes?

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I wonder if he is trying to reinvent heaven on the concept of paradise, that it's not just a Christian paradise, but it could also coexist with the Greek idea of heaven or gods, maybe?

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Right. The problem, though, is that the Greeks didn't have a concept of heaven, right?

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Yeah. Not really.

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The Greeks didn't have heaven. Right. So what is he trying to do here? So for Dante, he is trying to think about what creativity is, right? He's trying to think about what knowledge is. And for him, if you are truly to have knowledge, if you're truly to have knowledge, if you're truly to extract your imagination, what would you need to do? And how would that be different from the teachings of the Catholic Church at this time in history?

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Well, he gives me the impression of someone who worships enlightenment regardless of source. So he is seeking the truth regardless of source. It could be Apollo. It could be God. He'll take whatever will show him the truth.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's correct. Right? The idea is if you really want to know the truth, you have to be open -minded. But not only do you have to be open -minded, but you have to rigorously draw on from different traditions. Okay? Because these traditions exist for a reason. And you need to combine these traditions in order to reach a truth. And guess what, guys? This becomes the basic premise of the Renaissance. Right? Okay? So, Carol, can we do a Google search? Sure. Renaissance art. Okay? So this is Christian art, right, you guys? Yes. It's pretty static. It's just depictions of biblical passages. Right? But when you go to the Renaissance art, you see how vibrant it is. It's drawing from different traditions. Okay? So can you show this? Okay. Let me give you the School of Athens. Okay? So this is one of the most famous Renaissance paintings, the School of Athens. Okay. Yes. I see you, Peter.

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Okay, look. The School of Athens, right, is drawing from all possible traditions. You just look at this painting, and we don't have time to look at this painting, but it's not just Christian thinkers. It's Muslim thinkers. It's pagan thinkers. Okay? And the idea is implanted in the Divine Comedy. This painting would not have been possible without Dante. Okay? It was Dante who basically said, virtually to know God, virtually to discover the truth, we must embrace all possible religions, all possible philosophies. Yes? Did you have a question? Okay. Peter, we have a question from the livestream.

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So livestream right now is not working well. So. Okay.

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I mean, it's fine. We have to. It's fine. I mean, like, yeah, it's just in there. Yeah. Okay. We'll continue. Okay? All right. So do you see what's happening? Okay? We have now this radical leap from Christian medieval art to Renaissance art. You can see the vastness of the difference. It's Dante that's doing this. Okay? Yes?

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I remember going to Italy, and then I remember seeing the medieval art. The babies look really scary. Because I think. The church guy explained that baby is supposed to be Jesus when he was a baby. But when he was a baby, he was still this, like, divine figure. So that's why they drew him like a middle -aged man. But in Renaissance art, they start drawing, like, baby faces and real human proportions, like this idea of individuality, as you expressed earlier. So they started trying to see humans as they really are, rather than what spiritually, like, religiously they should represent.

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Yeah, exactly. So the major difference. The major difference between medieval art and Renaissance art is that with medieval art, you're trying to condition the Christian in a certain mentality, one of fear and humility, to be always afraid, but also to be humble before God. Whereas Renaissance, the Renaissance becomes the launching pad for modernity because the Renaissance is trying to activate human imagination. Okay? And the way you do that is you make humans a central character in the story of humanity. Okay? And that's what's happening in Dante, where Dante makes himself a central character. And this is, again, unique at this time. But also, you're trying to show the beauty and the power of the human imagination. Okay? All right. All right. Let's keep on going. Sorry. Did you have a question?

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No. I just have a comment. About... I think he's quite advanced in his theology, that he believes if you want to invoke the truth, you have to draw from many sources. But the fact that it's from Greek as well, it's kind of the same as how Christianity started with Jesus being born from Virgin Mary, which is a very Greek kind of storyline. So maybe he's trying to show his theology ideas that Jesus, you know, like the Christian God himself, you know, uses a Greek traditional way to make people know that he's the son of God.

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Okay. All right. So a couple comments. First of all, let's start with precise morphology. He is not a theologian. He is a poet. This is poetry, not theology. Okay? There's a lot of theology, there's a lot of philosophy in this, but it's poetry. This is a major difference. Okay? Theology is trying to explain religion. Poetry is to activate the imagination. Okay? The religious imagination. That's point one. Point two is everything that you're saying... Okay? Poetry is not raw. Well, you're saying it from the year 2026, and this was written in the year 1321, okay? And so back then, people would just have very different conception of the universe. Basically, at this point in history, the Catholic Church is trying to create a Christian theology that is self -contained. Okay? That is distinct from all other traditions. And it's in conflict with other traditions, especially the Muslim tradition, which is at this point in history, the most powerful religious tradition in the world.

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Okay? So keep this in mind, guys. A lot of things you think, it could be because you're looking at it from a 2026 lens. All right? But remember, this year, 1321. Okay? So it's hard to do, but keep this in the back of your mind. Okay? All right. Any more comments or questions before I move on? Okay. Let's keep on going.

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So seldom, Father, are those garlands gathered for triumph of a ruler or a poet, a sign of fault or shame in human wills, that when knee and branches can incite someone to long and thirst for them, the light must fill the happy Delphic deity.

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So he's, again, talking to Apollo, right? He's calling him Father. Not capital F Father, but Father. Okay? So he is invoking Apollo as a lesser god, which is sacrilege, by the way, in this world. Okay? Keep on going.

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Great fire can follow a small spark. There may be better voices after me to pray to Sarah's god for aid.

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Sarah's god is Apollo.

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That he may answer. The lantern of the world approaches mortals by very paths.

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The lantern of the world is the sun, right? Which is Apollo. And Apollo can reach you through different paths. And he's trying to invoke Apollo, right? He's trying to reach Apollo. Keep on going.

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But on that way, which links four circles with three crosses, it emerges joint to a better constellation and along a better course, and it can temper and stamp the world's wax war in its own manner.

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Okay. So let's try to unpack what's going on. Okay? So he's saying he wants to reach Apollo. He wants to summon and invoke Apollo. And there are many ways you can do that. But the way that links four circles with three crosses is the best way. Okay? So now what we're going to do is we're going to try to figure out what the four crosses with, sorry, four circles with three crosses is. And by the way. Okay? Everything that I am saying is my own interpretation. Okay? But I think that it's really important to figure out what four circles and three crosses are. Okay? So you basically have four circles and three crosses. Four circles, three crosses. All right? So now what we're going to try to do is use your imagination to figure out what this thing is. Okay? All right. So let's try to make this as simple as possible. Three crosses. Three crosses.

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One of the three crosses. Yes?

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The Holy Trinity maybe? Like the Trinity, God, and the son of God. Like the Trinity.

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No. That's not what the Trinity is. Come on. The three crosses. Is no one here Christian? Yes?

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I'm Christian. It's when Jesus died. Yes.

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Yes. Do you understand? When Jesus died, he died on the cross with two other people. Okay? That's what the three crosses are. It's Jesus. Right? This is Jesus. Now on Mount Calvary. Jesus. All right? That's pretty obvious. What are the four circles? This is harder. Yes?

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Maybe the four elements?

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Water, fire, earth, wind. Yes. That is a possibility. But the circles, it's four right? It's four elements. But what are the circles at? We think circle, what do you think? Spears right? Planets. Sun. Right? So four suns is what? But problem of the fourth season, right? So this is the, OK, so again, it's really important we figure this out. The four equinoxes, right? So you have the two equinoxes as well as the two solstices. And then that would be the four seasons. So that's what these four circles really are. Then you have the three crosses. And the three crosses we know are Jesus. What tradition cares a lot about the two equinoxes and two solstices?

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Pagan.

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Exactly, the pagan tradition, OK? So now we have a paradox. What's a pagan tradition doing with a Christian tradition? Christian tradition is clearly the three crosses. The four circles are clearly the pagan tradition. There's a paradox here. So let's figure out this paradox. If you were to be transported back 3,000 years into the pagan world, OK? Can somebody explain to me what the pagan world is like and how you would be, you would feel, I don't actually like this place. You feel uncomfortable in the pagan world. Why? What makes the pagan world different from our world, yes?

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So just to preface this, I am neo -pagan. So some of my idealizations of paganism might be, well, idealized. But what I think is, the paganism, is very different from the paganism. is that paganism is more primal and more varied. So we're used to an Anglo -Christian world. We're used to a homogenous world. We're used to people agreeing with our ideas. And when they don't, we argue with them. But the pagan world is almost more tolerant in a way. There's more gods. There's more opinions. And you're likely to lie to someone who don't agree with you.

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OK, so this is confusing because neopaganism, the modern pagan world, it embraces many different traditions, including Judaism, animism. But throughout most of human history, if you're a pagan, what idea, what thing were you most concerned with? What were you really concerned with as a pagan, yes? That you don't upset the gods.

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Why? Well, because you can't not upset the gods.

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OK. How did you make your living? What did you do for a living?

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Farming.

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Farming, right?

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If you upset the gods, they have a drought or a huge rainstorm, and all of your crops are gone.

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Exactly, right? Would you be comfortable in this world? Why not? Why would you be comfortable in this world of paganism, yes? Well, you constantly live in fear.

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You constantly live in fear. No. No. Like if you're doing the right thing or not. Yes, right?

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You have absolutely, yes?

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More essentially, I think, it's the ambiguity. You have to be comfortable with not knowing what the gods want to do to you.

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Right. So, yes? And you can't predict the actions of your fellow human beings as well as…

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You may need to turn it on. Sorry. We're finished.

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You can't predict the actions of your fellow human beings as well as you would in a Christian,

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and conservatives right so the reality is that in the pagan agricultural world okay where the focus is on fertility you have actually no agency right you have no individuality life is passive for you okay it's not about what you can do it's really about appeasing the gods right so there's really no individuality it's really hard for you to be um creative or to make your mark on the world right

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so yes but uh i have a question here like you just told us earlier that medieval christian art and even the catholic church in dante's time suppressed creatively and promoted god fearing

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humility so how is that different okay that's a good question so we're talking about medieval christian europe in the year 1300 right but this is referring to jesus at the time of his crucifixion which is about the year 33 around 33 okay all right what okay you for the christians in this room what why did jesus have to die why was his conviction his death such a historical event why yes because there's no way for man himself to

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home for his sins and man cannot be sinless stainless so to pay the price for his actions so what was Jesus so Jesus was the faultless lamb who can die for you know what was Jesus son of God yes so God himself has to come the Son of God who is what who is the Messiah was sinless was but but but is he a man

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was he not a man he's both exactly you understand okay you understand this is important he is both son of God and he's a man as well you understand okay if you're not a Christian it's kind of weird but for like 2,000 years they argued about this okay but Jesus if you want to understand Christianity you need to understand that Jesus was both a man as well as a God and if you're a man you're able to redeem all humanity now you have agency right now you're able to mark a new period in human history so what's happened is that in the pagan worldview the universe is a circle it's a procession of equinoxes okay it's an endless seamless cycle okay like this like the seasons there's winter which gives rise to spring which gives rise to summer then autumn and so on and on and on there's something you can do about it

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okay with Jesus the circle now becomes a line right the circle becomes a line so when you put together the four circles and the three crosses you get a new beginning of human history in which the individual matters now yes that was what the Catholic Church wanted

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to suppress right like this this knowledge that you can free yourself so the Catholic Church said no you need us to get to heaven right so exactly so and this is what Dante is

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saying he's saying that the Catholic Church and Jesus and Christianity these aren't necessarily the same things okay all right so with this poetry Dante is trying to create a new understanding of Christianity and this again is what gives rise to the Renaissance as well as modernity okay but this doesn't make sense to you okay and what and what he's doing that's really important is he's creating paradoxes right what is what's why is paganism a symbol of paganism the four circles why is it linked to the symbol of Christianity the the three crosses and the answer is because for humanity to progress you need both traditions in place okay wrap these traditions together there is no path to enlightenment there's no path to Apollo this is the best path possible okay does that make sense and again this is my interpretation poetry can only be interpreted okay I'm sure there's been a lot of Donnie scholars

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who are really very angry at me for making this interpretation but I think this is a possible interpretation that aligns with other things that Dante will say throughout the divine comedy okay are we clear and yes so uh

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in summary the idea is like the sun shines on the world and it doesn't just shine on Christians it

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shines on everyone that's what Donnie believes okay but what what else what he's going to do later on that is even more revolutionary is say it's not God's choice whether or not to shine on you it's your choice whether you want God to shine on you or not does that make sense um but this this comes later all right so any more questions before we move on let's let's continue

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um it's entry from that point of the horizon brought morning there and evening here so he's talking about the Sun right almost all of that hemisphere was white while ours was dark when I saw Beatrice turn around and left that she might see the Sun no Eagle has ever been so steadily added and as a second ray will issue from the first and reassent much like a Pilgrim who seeks his home again so on her action that by my eyes to my imagination my action drew and on the Sun I set my sight more than we usually do more is permitted to our powers there than is permitted here by virtue of that place made for mankind as its true home i did not bear it long but not so briefly as not to see it sparkling round about like molten iron emerging from the fire and suddenly it seemed that day had been added

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today as if the one who can had graced the heavens with a second son the eyes of beatrice were all intent on the eternal circles from the sun i turned aside i set my eyes on her and watching her within me i was changed as glock has changed tasting the earth that made him a companion of the other sea gods okay so something that's really

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confusing about the divine comedy is that different universes are existing parallel with each other right so there is the of the Greeks right where a pole is a Sun now he's switching to the Christian universe where God is the Sun okay so all these universes are existing in parallel with each other and the reason why is that we are in heaven we are in paradise and so this is a spirit world okay so let me ask you this question it's a hard question but think about this pretend you're a ghost or spirit okay can you perceive time in space is it possible for you to perceive time in

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space yes no because I mean you're a model well like you know forever why would you does he be able to perceive time then I mean it makes sense it's like spirits never dying for their they've always been there since the universe existed well I understand but you can still keep time

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right what had you proceed come in space the answer is no you can proceed come in space there's a really good reason why you cannot here's the time you guys

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thought about this yes although you it's because you can't interact with time and space your soul is immune to the influences of time and space you don't have a body to be battered yeah yeah so they

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trick the trick the The key is to understand that when a body is impossible for you to understand time and space, okay? And this is what Immanuel Kant tells us. What time and space is, is space is sensation. Sensation is made possible through the five senses, okay? Distance is because you have a body. If you didn't have a body, you wouldn't have a conception of distance, okay? And what time is, time is sequence, which is cause and effect, caused by sensation, right? I first had this feeling, then I had that feeling. That's time. So a body is impossible for you to experience time and space, okay? So we are in a universe where time and space don't exist. Everything exists at once and forever, okay? Different universes exist at the same time. This is why all this is possible. And what Dante is doing is he's using words to decipher this universe, to make it

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comprehensible to us, because we are stuck in time and space, but they are beyond time and space, okay? Does that make sense? Okay.

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Yes? And how are these spirits invoked? Or are they everywhere at the same time? Or how are these spirits invoked in humans? Or is it through emotions? I don't understand the question. Can you repeat that? Yeah, these spirits, there's multiple, right? So... And in the Greek world, they... I mean, in the Greek world, you would say they did have a body because, you know, there's all these gods that came down to Earth, so they had to, like, inhabit a body in the end.

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But in the Greek world, what happened was these spirits took possession, you understand? They didn't come to us as material forms. They took possession of animals, like Zeus, or they took possession of people. Right. But then they were able to receive time and space. That's right. But only if they can take possession of someone's body.

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Okay.

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Okay? Does that make sense? Right? So that's what... So he's trying to have Apollo possess him so he's able to use the powers of Apollo. Okay. All right, let's move on.

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Passing beyond the human cannot be worded. Let Glockus serve as simile. Until grace grants you the experience. Whether... Where I only was the part of me that you created last, you, governing the heavens, know, it was your light that raised me. When that wheel which you make eternal through the heavens longing for you drew me with the harmony you temper and distinguish, the fire of the sun then seemed to me to kindle so much of the sky that rain or river never formed so broad a light. The newness of the sound and the great light incited me to learn their cause. I was more keen than I had ever been before. And she who read me as I read myself to quiet the commotion in my mind opened her lips before I opened mine.

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Okay, all right, so do you guys understand the sequence of events, right? So he starts off invoking a pole and says, I had this great dream or experience 20 years ago. Please, Apollo, give me the power to describe what I saw with words because what I saw was beyond time and space. It is beyond the imagination of ordinary mortals, okay, like, like us, the readers today. Okay. Now what he's doing is he's now describing as a pilgrim his experience 20 years ago with Beatrice. Okay. Keep on going.

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Okay.

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So I opened her lips before I opened mine to ask, and she began, you make yourself accused with false imagining. You cannot see what you would see if you dispelled it. You're not on the earth as you believe, but lightning flying from its own above is less swift than you are returning home.

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Okay, so they are in the heavens, which is beyond time and space. Okay. So in order for Dante to understand what's going on, the universe has constructed the universe in a way for Dante to process. So it's linear. There is a bit of time and space, okay? And what Beatrice is saying to her, to him basically is, here you have to completely rely on your intuition and your imagination, okay? Do not try to use logic. Do not try to take what you learn. Okay. If the power of the universe is not in on earth and applied here, it will just confuse you. Okay? So before you can meet God, we have to go on this journey to dispel your false imaginings. Okay? Let go of your ego, let go of your doubts, let go of your fear so that you can truly embrace God.

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Yes? I don't know if this is going to be talked about later, but is this kind of also an allegory for Christianity, because some sort of Christian apologists have argued before that. Obviously, faith is what you learn. need to for for Christianity by using logic that's where we can sort of forward to sin

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um he will address this later on okay he will talk to Paul who is the person who says this right for Paul faith is um um uh to believe without uh without evidence um yeah so we'll talk about this later on yes okay all right any more questions before we go on are you guys following along

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because it gets harder and harder okay well yes well I have a quite innocent question I just feel curious like why there is no need for logic in the habit because it seems like in order maybe for communication in the world I think it's necessary to have it anywhere right because I mean if people don't do not use logic for their like daily conversation how could that be I mean in any place

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is there any help helping me answer this question yeah so you're in heaven you're in spirit your body's not there you don't need to move your uh teeth move your meat trap to talk you can just boo, teletab 칣 out around

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yeah I know I mean I mean it doesn't mean like you have to physically to make a sound or vibrate to like other others to receive your message but I mean because like even if you are a spirit you you still have your counselors, right? So how could you guys like using the, to make your counselors have the agreements, even if you don't have to use the logic?

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Yeah, that's exactly the point. You don't have to make people agree with you. You can just think about it, and everyone will understand what you mean.

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Yes? Oh yeah, because I think Bruce Lee has just said, don't think, feel. So maybe, I think Bruce Lee just like kind of philosopher, right, just like maybe like Denton said, don't think, feel.

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Okay, all right, so let me answer your question, okay? Because this is a question that most high school students are gonna have. If you're in high school, logic does matter. Could be you have to take tests, okay? But that's the point of logic, to take tests and to pass tests, and make the teacher give you a good grade, okay? Logic is a system we develop in order to control the way you behave and think in our world, okay? But our world is just a subset of the entire universe. And quite honestly, there are many issues with logic, okay? So for example, mathematics and science really constrain your capacity to perceive the world. And it's something that will become much more clear as you continue to read the dichromedy, okay? All right, but what I mean will say is that logic art changed chains, okay? To keep you in a certain mindset. The imagination is like

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a bird that can float around everywhere, and so to truly understand God, to understand dichromedy, your mind has become almost like a bird, just fly around and follow your intuition, okay?

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all right uh let's keep on going while i was free from my first doubt by these brief words she smiled to me i was yet caught in new perplexity i said i was content already after

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such great wonder i rested great sorry sorry i'm sorry okay all right so um what while i was preaching my first thought down by these brief words she smiled to me i was yet caught in new perplexity okay so what is his first out am i really here yes okay yeah he's not okay anyone else what's his doubt that it's really i'm not am i really here he's not sure where he is right okay and what hatred is telling him is that we are in a new universe that is beyond time and space okay so they're gonna go visit the moon and venus and the sun and jupiter and sun these are not our jupiter our style okay okay these are metaphors metaphors this is another universe okay that's his first um doubt okay but once you have this first doubt what other questions might you have can i say to me uh can i

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stay can i stay to me i belong in this realm yeah how does this realm work yeah how did i get up there yeah like it's like this first thing like we're in a new universe it raises all sorts of different questions okay and so this is what makes dante's conception of the universe unique because heaven it is not perfection it is not the end it's just another journey it's just another place for you to to ask questions okay does that make sense all right so um yeah okay uh can you keep on reading

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uh carol sure i said i was content already after such great wonder i rested but again i wonder how my body rises past these lighter bodies okay so how this universe works right

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because you're flying from the cosmos and he's like why am i flying right he's completely confused by what's going on but but again what was important to understand is that there is no time and space in this universe time and space has construct has been constructed for buddy's personal benefit so that he can extend he can understand what's going on all right does that make sense okay keep going at which after a side pity

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she settled her eyes on me with the same look a mother casts upon a raiding child and she began all things among themselves possess an order and this order is the form that makes the universe like god here do the higher beings see the imprint of the internal work which is the end to which the pattern i have mentioned tense within that order every nature has its bent according to a different station nearer or less near to its origin therefore the nature is moved to different ports across the mighty sea of being each given the impulse that will bear it on this impulse carries fire to the moon this is the motive force in mortal creatures this binds the earth together makes it one not only does the shaft shot from this bow strike creatures lacking intellect but those who have intelligence and who can love great so so what But what you're saying here is that God created the universe in a certain structure.

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And God permeates the entire universe and touches all. And there is a logic, a reason, a coherence to the universe. What Dante's going to do is try to figure out what this logic is. What is the organizing principle of the universe? Why has God constructed the world the way he has? OK? And even this is true even in heaven. So there's a hierarchy even in heaven. Here I'm going.

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The providence that has arrayed all this forever quiets with its light, that heaven in which the swiftness of the spheres revolves. So there, as toward a destined place, we now are carried by the power of the bow that always aims its shaft at a glad mark. Yet it is true that. Even as a shape may often not accord with art's intent, since matter may be unresponsive, death. So from this course, the creature strays at times because he has the power once impelled to swerve elsewhere. As lightning from a cloud is seen to fall, so does the first impulse when man has been diverted by false pleasure, turn him toward earth. You should. You should. If I am right, not feel more marvel at your climbing than you would were you considering a stream that from a mountain's height falls to its base. It would be cause for wonder in you if, no longer hindered, you remain below, as if on earth a living flame stood still.

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Then she again turned her gaze heavily.

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So here she's trying to explain how the universe works, how it moves. OK? Can someone, in simple terms, explain to me what he's saying here? You decipher, interpret what she's saying here. Yes?

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God assigned you a bunch of weights. If you're light, you go up. If you're heavy, you go down. If you're light and you are still down, then you should be worried.

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Incorrect. OK. Yeah, good guess, though. That's not what she's saying at all. What do you think the problem with this would be? Why would Dante take objection to this idea? You said that God assigns weights, right? Why would Dante be angry about this idea?

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Technically, he's a human. However, right here, he is on the doorstep of heaven. So how did he get there?

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OK. So let's first try to unpack this idea. God assigns weights, OK? And there are lots of Christians who do believe this. OK? This is something that John Calvin would argue. But Dante is a Christian. He would find this really objectionable. He'd be very angry at this idea. Why? Very judgmental. Exactly. It's unjust. Do you understand? Like, how can you justify giving someone a heavy weight and someone a light weight? Why would God do that? What's the rationale for that?

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And there's also a mention of many forms of natures. So multiple standards, multiple perspectives.

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Exactly, OK? So God assigns everywhere. OK? And that's why he said, never be judgmental. That goes against the nature of God. OK? So God is not judgmental. God is all forgiving, all generous. So that can't possibly be the answer, that God has assigned weights. So what's another explanation? Yes?

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But if he didn't assign weights, and if he isn't judgmental, then how are some people in heaven and some people are in the inferno?

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Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm asking you. Yes? Of course. In the present, we give ourselves the weights. Exactly. Can you explain that? Because we have, obviously, through this conception, we have free will. So if we, obviously, end up with the heavy weights, it's because we've done the greatest sin. What does God? Yes? Yes?

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Well, also, similar to what he said, it's just that we can't forgive ourselves. So we're not able to, like, we could forgive ourselves, but some people can't. Some people are sins so great that they're not in the, they don't have the power to forgive themselves. So they think they don't have the power.

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Good. OK. All right. So what is God doing? What is God, what does God want? What is God doing? The Ephesians tells us explicitly what God is doing. What is God doing? What is God's action? What is God trying to do? Yes?

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So if the weights are the ones you put on yourselves, then God is trying to tell you to take them off yourself.

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So what he's just saying is that God is trying to draw you to him. You understand? Right? He's like a tractor beam. Right? He's locked you on. He's going to draw you to him. That's what God is trying to do. And like, what are you doing?

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I imagine God's like a, he's like watching a movie, right? He's sitting back and watching everybody on their own free will, navigating and exploring their different perspectives of their different views of things and as they kind of go towards him or away from him.

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Is God watching you?

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Yeah.

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Why would God say God is not watching you?

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Well, I say God just keep watching all of us. Yes, I say this kind of confession, and if you think you're guilty, then you have a thought that God is there. For example, if you just do something and you think it's okay, nobody watch it, but your guilty is due there. So if your guilty is due there, it means that God is there. So maybe it is what I thought. Yes?

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Again, is it more our agency, are we watching God rather than him watching us? Okay, can you explain that? Um, it's more like, obviously when we decide within ourselves that we want salvation or we want to not simply do the right thing, we will look to God. It's not that he's sort of watching us. Exactly.

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So, so the key is this, God is always welcoming you, okay? God is always trying to draw you to him, but because of the law of free will, of free will, of free choice, it's entirely your choice what to do. You could welcome God, embrace God, and then move towards the light, which is what Thotty is doing, but you can also turn away from God and do whatever you want, okay? And this is how the universe works. And this is the basic premise that you have to work with. Like everything that you do is entirely because you choose to do it, even though you may not think it's your choice, okay? This is the fundamental law of the universe. It's all, everything is free choice. So God doesn't, he's not going to watch you, God's not going to welcome you, it's entirely your choice whether or not to move towards God for your actions, okay, for your desire and will.

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Does that make sense? Okay. And this is the premise that Beatrice is going to elaborate on, um, in the book. And expand on as they move across the heavens, to let God understand, every two, this means you choose to do it. And why would God give you free choice? And why is God doing this? Why is free choice, free will, the ultimate law of the universe? Why has God constructed the universe in such a way? Yes?

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Because that way you are willingly, uh, loving him, or like following his, his rules or stuff. So that you're not forced. You're not forced to enter heaven or forced to, uh, obey God's commands.

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Okay. Okay. Yes. That is true. But I'm saying like, why does God give you free will?

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It's a very physics, imagination, if God is, imagine God as energy and God, uh, energy tends to accumulate, tends to want more of it. So, so as, as you have free will, all these agents have a free will gravitate towards that source of energy, that source of energy becomes God.

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I think it makes sense, but I'm not going to guess. Is it kind of because God doesn't have his own free will, so he uses it through us?

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Uh, God doesn't have free will. That, that, that, that doesn't make any sense. He's God, right?

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Yes? Like he can't sit. Yes? Uh, I think it's exactly because God is omnipotent. He can do everything he wants, but he chooses to, uh, give the freedom of choice to people. But why? Just to see what people react. That's an example.

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Is that an experiment? No, he's experimenting on us. We're, we're, we're like mice in a, in a, in a lab, right? Yes?

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Yes? Uh, I think he wants humans to reach him, so he would need a way for people to not reach him to make a contrast for people, uh, making their journey, like closer and closer to him.

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This sounds like, like, like a mice experiment, right? You have this like maze and you want the mouse to come to you, right? Is that what God is doing? Yeah. Yes?

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Maybe because God made man in his own image and he wanted man to have agency, just like him.

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Well, why does God want man to have agency? Yes?

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Um, because there's no good if there's no evil. Like, like if, if they are willing to do good, that's actually good.

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Okay. So again, God wants to create good, so he has to create evil as well. So it's all kind of an experiment, right? You have to ask yourself this question. Would God actually do any of this? Yes?

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Uh, this is a bit of a radical opinion, but what if God just didn't create us?

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Then he's not God.

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No. Like, what if we're independent from him?

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Okay. Um, this, okay. But again, yes, yes, yes.

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Um, he doesn't want blind obedience from humanity because if we are all forced to believe him, then he wouldn't be God anymore.

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Okay. Uh, yes?

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Um, in the passage, uh, Doctrine and Covenants, it says, uh, God is the only God. Right. So, um, Dante writes, everything has an order. Right? That's right. So, you know, rocks fall downward, the fire burns upwards. So it seems like those things don't really have free will, but as humans, we can stray from the path and like, whatever you write. So, so as humans, like we can, we don't, we don't automatically have that order.

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So. Okay. So we know this free will. Okay. We know what makes us. This is our free will. But I'm saying, why do we have this? Why did God give us this?

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Yes. Because God is actually within us. So he wants to experience it.

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God is within us. So he wants to experience free will, but God only has free will. God is God. God can do whatever he wants. In the material world. In the material world. Huh?

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Does God care? Yeah.

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You keep on, keep on going.

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Well, I'll just say, rather than making experiments, I would like to say that God would like to play a role, like much more like a judger, because if people have the free will, they will do, do this stuff, follow their true hearts by their true meaning. So that means there will be no camouflage that can make someone feel confused. Then the God can make the real judgment based on people's action and their true thoughts. Okay. All right.

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So guys, again, this is a problem because you're overthinking this. It's not that hard. That's what we do. It is. It is. You were a child, okay? How do you know your parents truly love you? What is that one signal that your parents truly love you unconditionally? What is it? You can do whatever you want. Exactly. Free will.

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You understand? Well, how about just kind of like a judge in the law is called motivation. God is not a judge. Okay.

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It's kind of motivation like. No, no, no. No. Okay. God is perfection. God is a creator, right? And God, to show he loves everything in the universe, gives freedom to the universe. Free will. Does that make sense? Okay. And again, just think about your parents. Just think about how, if you're a parent, how you treat your child. How do you know you truly, your parents truly love you? Because your parents support you unconditionally. You understand? That's what God is. God loves you unconditionally. God would never, ever ask you to do anything. God will not ask you to do good. God will not ask you to do evil. Okay? God will not ask you to aspire to him. Free will is the ultimate law of the universe because that is how God expresses his love to you. God exists. He exists. He exists to love you. Does that make sense?

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Well, I don't know, but you know, I'm also a father, and I think my sons, I can't just give them unconditional love because if I think they're conditional enough, you don't take responsibility for him. For example, if he's not my son, he can do everything, what he wants. I don't care. But if he's my son, I have to tell him. You're my son. You have to... I do not want him to turn to the bait.

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I don't want him to turn to the bait. We're trying to be divine comedy, we're trying to understand what Dante is saying here, yes?

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I kind of hold the same opinion, where it's like, yeah, I agree with the idea that if someone loves you, they will support you unconditionally. And if you want to do something, they will support that. But I don't think it's giving, it's the same thing as free will. Because the free will is saying, if I don't want to go to sleep, my parents just won't let me go to, just let me stay up all night. And if I don't want to eat my vegetables, my parents let me eat candy. That doesn't seem like them showing that they love you. So I don't think that free will necessarily is the same thing as being supportive, no matter what.

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Yes, but you understand, there are rules to the universe, okay? For example, we don't have the power to rule the entire universe, you understand? There are limits to what we can do. God does set limits to us. Does that make sense? Okay? Yes?

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Maybe I want to pose a question at the very least. It seems like Eve ate the apple from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And prior to that, Adam and Eve didn't have knowledge of this good and evil, which perhaps would negate a bit of this free will without understanding the dichotomy. And so perhaps you could say either humans took for themselves this free will, or that they were deceived, and they were forced upon them by the serpent or the devil, or whoever you want to say, and were forced this free will. Does that seem to fit at all here?

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Um, okay. So, yes?

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But the fact that the tree existed in the garden in the first place, already shows that God has given free will from the beginning. So he has, like, you know, a recommendation. I recommend you not to eat this fruit, but if you want, it's there, you know? So from the very beginning, there is free will. It's not like humans seek free will, got the fruit, and then got free will. But it's like, it's there.

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Yeah, so, I mean, we'll get to the garden, okay? But there are, like, so many ways you can understand what happened, okay? But, like, what Donnie was saying, what I will say is that, um, exactly that, which is, if God didn't want us to, um, didn't want us, the opportunity to exercise our free will, he would not have put the tree there in the first place. And he would not have said, hey, lift that tree, don't touch it, okay? I mean, yeah? Uh, did you have a comment? Yes?

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Oh, well, this is a bit of a meta -narrative, but what, what if God is perfection, God is everything good, God loves us, so no matter what God does to us, that's a form of his love. If he gives us free will, that's his love. If he doesn't, that's his love. If he did, then we can only assume that he loves us.

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Okay, alright, so, um, let me clarify something, okay? This, Donnie is beyond time and space. You understand? So we cannot use our logic, we cannot use our language to explain what's going on. But Dante is trying to use our logic, our language, to explain to us what's going on. Okay? So, this is not a literal explanation, oh, God is this force that loves us. It's a metaphorical explanation that helps us understand our place in the universe. Does that make sense? If you want to really go into literal, then go study quantum mechanics, right? How the universe is entirely energy, vibrations, quantum fields. But the question then for Donnie is like, what does this mean, right? If the universe is entirely energy, how does this energy flow work? And what does this mean for us? And what Donnie's trying to do is he's trying to explain to us what our place is metaphorically, poetically.

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Does that make sense? And the best way to understand God is like, God is this force, that loves us unconditionally and calls us back to him, which is what will enable us to be happy. But it's entirely our choice whether or not to go to him. He's trying to explain to us why we make certain choices that we do. Okay? Do you understand? So, this is poetry. This is a metaphor. This is not quantum mechanics. Does it make sense, guys? All right. Any more questions before we move on? Okay. So, I'm trying to establish the major themes. That we'll be exploring throughout the light column here. Okay? All right. Are we all clear? All right. Let's move on to panel two, please.

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Sorry.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh, you who are within your little bark, eager to listen, following behind my ship, that, singing, crosses to deep seas, turn back to see your shores again. Do not attempt to sail the seas I sail. You may, by losing sight of me, be left astray.

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Okay. So, now he's talking directly to us, the reader, right? He's the poet. He's talking to us, the reader. Keep on going.

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The waves I take were never sailed before. Minerva breathes, Apollo pilots me, and the nine muses show to me the veil. Okay.

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So, again, he's invoking all possible inspirations to help him through this process. Okay? And no one's ever been on this journey before. And quite honestly, no one else will ever be on this journey again. Keep on going.

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You other few who turned your minds in time unto the bread of angels, which provides men here with life, but hungering for more, you may indeed commit your vessel to the deep salt sea, keeping your course within my wake, ahead of where waves smooth again. Those men of glory, those who crossed to Colchis, where they saw Jason turn into a plowman, were less amazed than you will be amazed.

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So, again, he's referencing Greek mythology, Jason and the Argonauts. Okay? Keep on going.

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The thirst that is innate and everlasting, thirst for the godly realm, bore us away as swiftly as the heavens that you see.

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Okay. So what he's saying is that our fundamental hunger, our fundamental need, our thirst, is to return to God. Okay? And he feels God is close to him, so he is moving really quickly. Quickly towards him.

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Beatrice gazed upward. I watched her, but in a span perhaps no longer than an arrow takes to strike, to fly, to leap above, I reached a place where I could see that something wonderful drew me, and she from whom my need could not be hidden turned to me. Her gladness matched her loveliness. Direct your mind to God in gratefulness, she said. He has brought us to the first star.

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Okay, so again, heaven is tied into a hierarchy, okay? Different planes. The first plane is the moon, okay? So they are on the moon right now.

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It seemed to me that we were covered by a brilliant, solid, dense, and stainless cloud, much like a diamond that the sun has struck. Into itself, the everlasting pearl received us, just as water will accept a ray of light and yet remain intact. If I was body, and on earth we cannot see how things material can share one's space, the case when body enters body, then should our longing be still more inflamed to see that essence in which we discern how God and human nature remain one? What we hold here by faith shall there be seen, not demonstrated but directly known, even as the first truth that man believes. I answered, with the most devotion I can summon, I thank him who has brought me far from the mortal world. But now tell me, what are the dark marks on this planet's body that there below, on earth, have made men tell the tale of Cain?

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Okay, so, they're on the moon, okay? And Dante has a question, which is, why are there dark spots on the moon? Actually, Carol, could you, can we just, like, Google the moon? Sure. Yeah. So, you guys have looked at the moon, right? There are, like, dark spots on the moon, and, like, you're like, what are they doing there, right? Like, you guys see the moon, right? Explain, does anyone know why there are dark spots on the moon?

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Because there's craters from meteoroids?

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Yeah, that's the standard explanation, okay? The standard explanation is that there are some craters, and these craters have certain material that is not reflective. And they can absorb the light, okay? All right? But Dante's asking this question. Like, my first question is, why are there dark spots on the moon? Okay, he said he's in heaven, and he's asking, like, why are there dark spots on the moon? Okay, so for him, it's a scientific journey, right? Okay, keep on going, Carol.

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She smiled somewhat, and then she said, if the opinion mortals hold falls into error when the senses key cannot unlock the truth, you should not be struck by the universe, but by errors of amazement. Once you recognize that reason, even when supported by the senses, has short ways.

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Okay, so here she's saying, okay, reason, logic don't work in the universe. Okay, there is severe limitations to science, to logic, to reason. All right? And so now, we're forced to use our intuition and our imagination. Okay, if you truly believe in science, it's gonna only carry you so far. Okay, keep on going.

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Sorry. I have a question. I think the imaginations and intuitions of reason is on the same level of precedence of cognitive faculties. Why is imagination or an intuitor is higher than reason?

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Okay, that's a good question. Okay, all right. So let's figure this out. Reason and imagination are not the same thing. Okay? Logic, intuition are not the same thing. Before I answer, does anyone want to try? What's the difference? There's a difference between reason and imagination. Have you guys thought about this? What's the difference between reason and imagination?

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I don't know. I'm gonna try, but I might be very wrong. But I think that, like, logic is more, like, about rational. Imagination can be, like, very rational. Like, um, yeah. Like, it can, for example, help different people.

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Yes? Yeah, I would say logic is the people in the past, like, what they experienced and summarized and put into a theory. Or you can say logic is when people is what people think when they're in a normal state of mind. And when they go crazy or when they, just something happened to their brain and they're thinking something else, they can be more imaginative this way, probably. Yes?

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I think, to an extent, logic and reason, they try to explain the material world. But when we go into the realm of intuition and imagination, we can go beyond the constraints of the material world and just, like, do whatever we want and kind of, like, it's like the human nature. We want to experience things that are greater than this world that we live in. So that's why sometimes we are drawn to poetry and writing.

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Okay. Okay. Intuitively, I think, the difference between intuition and logic is that logic is,

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you know, it's like human beings have a multiplex of ways to think.

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It's a way of thinking or, you know, experiencing the universe. Logic is the conscious human effort involving language and other, you know, centralized methods to experience the universe. Whereas

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intuition is invoking the whole physical or mental capacity without even being conscious.

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Okay. All right. But I need you to understand the difference between reason and imagination. Okay. The central difference is this. When you reason, what you're really doing is dividing things into categories. Does that make sense? In order for you to reason, you have to category something. For example, you're a girl, you're a boy, girl, boy. Okay. And then from that, once I have these categories, I can start to reason things out. Okay. But the categorization is problematic because like by categorizing, what I'm doing is I am reducing. I'm subtracting. I'm simplifying. Okay. Imagination is different because imagination is about synthesis. It's about adding. Okay. So you don't have this categorizing process. You can take leaps. Okay. You can build things on top of each other. So that's what Peter's saying here. If you try to categorize things, you're going to run into problems because categorization by itself is problematic. Does that make sense? Okay.

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You're trying to reason out why the moon has dark spots. Right. You're like, the moon is a planet. Uh, the planet. Well, I mean, you do understand what's going on. Okay. You're trying to put things into categories. And as a result, it's going to confuse you.

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All right. Yes. There's also, like, if you use logic, you can come up with many answers to one question. But if you have intuition or imagination, there's just one truth. You've got to feel it.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's what Don is going to say. Like, intuition is probably your best guide. Okay. Any more? Yes.

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Yeah. Maybe I'm saying just like, you know, in ancient China, people didn't believe in logic. They just believed in, for example, like, or we can call it love or something. So you have to show love to your mother. You have to show love to your master. You can't ask, keep asking the question, why I show love? What you can give me in return? But reason is different. You have to get something in return. Like, you know, why I love you? Because I, I need you. Right? Why I need you? Because you can give me something that I need. Right? So I think maybe that is the difference. Okay.

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So, so, so, so categorization is important because categorization allows you to better manipulate the material world. Does that make sense guys? When you are able to categorize things, you're also able to break things down to its basic elements and then manipulate them. Great technology. Okay, does that make sense? But there's a limitation to this. The imagination is what carries you through to the deep secrets of the universe. Okay? is saying here okay you are looking at the moon from a logical rational scientific perspective and that will not let you see the truth okay the heart the imagination will let you see the truth

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can you continue please sure but tell me what you think of it yourself and i what seems to us diverse appears cause i think by matter dense and rare okay okay what's his explanation for this

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it's a very simple explanation why are the dark smarts dark spots on the moon matters dense and rare what does he mean by this different density can you explain please like like if you're just trying to figure this out logically what's the most logical explanation for why there are

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dark spots on the moon uh there are different materials or craters or asteroids you know

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that's not the most logical explanation what was the most logical explanation dirt has different colors no guys why are there dark spots on the moon why is it that some parts reflect and some

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parts don't reflect why oh yeah uh it would be because like it creates depth and so the more

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far away the darker like same as a cave would be yeah right okay so what we assume is that there's certain parts of the moon that are hollow does that make sense like just from launch perspective hollow and then sort of light just passes through right there's some part of the moon that is pretty dense and so the light reflects back i'm just thinking about large perspective we use categorization right in analysis you get to this conclusion okay if something is hollow it does not reflect light if something is not hollow light bounces back okay we're using logic here and that's what i say it doesn't make sense okay team am i going and she

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you certainly will see that your belief is deeply sunk in error if you listen carefully

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as i reputted hey what what is really interesting about divine comedy is they're in heaven and they're having a scientific debate okay they're having an argument about the nature of science

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the eighth sphere offers many lights to you and you can tell that they and volume and size are stars with different visages. If rarity and density alone caused this, then all the stars would share one power distributed in lesser, greater, or an equal force. But different powers must be fruits of different formal principles. Were you correct, one only would be left, the rest destroyed, and more.

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Okay, stop, okay, all right. So what she's saying here is, okay, we are looking at the heavens, and the different stars have different lighting, okay? And she's saying, like, if we can just reduce everything to logic, then this logic controls the universe, and therefore the entire stars are lit by this logic, okay? But she's gonna tell us that can't be true. Okay, there's another force and another force, that's how it would work. Keep on going.

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And more, where rarity the cost of the dim spots you question, then in part this planet would lack matter through and through. Or else as, in a body, lean and fat can alternate, so would this planet alternate the pages in its volume.

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Okay, so what she's saying is this, okay? If it is true that density is what determines light, then what you're saying is there are parts of the moon that are hollow, or they have a deep cavity. Okay, does that make sense, guys? Okay, either possibility. Either there are parts of the moon that are hollow, or there's a deep cavity inside the moon, so the light just goes into it, okay? Only one of these two possibilities. And now what she's doing too is, she's going to refute both of these arguments. You mind going?

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And more, right here. And more, where rarity the cost of the dim spots you question, then in part this planet would lack matter through and through. Or else as, in a body, lean and fat can alternate, so would this planet alternate the pages in its volume. To validate the first case, in the sun's eclipse, the light would have to show through, just as when it crosses matter, that is slender. This is not so. Therefore, we must consider the latter case. If I annul that too, then your opinion surely is computed.

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Okay, so she's saying, it is not possible for the moon to be hollow at any point. Why? It is not possible for the moon to be hollow at any point. Why?

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Because there should be, yes?

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Sorry, anyone?

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There's the eclipse. The eclipse, right?

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There's an eclipse. So, it's not possible for the moon to be hollow at any point. Otherwise, you wouldn't have an eclipse. Okay. Come on, Elaine.

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If rarity does not run through and through the moon, then there must be a limit where thickness does not allow the light to pass. From there, the rays of sun would be thrown back, just as from glass that hides lead at its back, a ray of colored light returns, reflected. Now you will say that where a ray has been reflected, from a section farther back, that ray will show itself to be more dim.

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Okay, so wait, that's the logical argument, right? Well, maybe the moon is not completely hollow, but there are parts that are so deep, the light just is trapped, okay? Do you want to go ahead?

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Yeah, an experiment where you could try it could free you from your cabal, and the source of your arts course springs from experiment.

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Okay. What's she saying here? She's saying, like, if you don't believe, and I'm Beatrice, I am a representative of God, you don't believe me, what should you do? Do an experiment. Do it for yourself, man! You understand? You don't have to believe me. I am not forcing you to believe anything. You have the power to know the truth for yourself, okay? Do an experiment. I'm going.

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Taking three mirrors, place a pair of them at equal distance from you, set the third midway point. The middle starts straight between those two, but farther back. Then, turning toward them at your back, have placed a light that kindles those three mirrors and returns to you, reflected by them all. Although the image in the farthest glass will be of lesser size, there you will see that it must match the brightness of the rest.

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Okay, so here's an experiment, okay? What I'm doing is I am putting mirrors in front of me, okay, maybe 10 feet away from me, and I'm putting it like a mirror, okay? 10,000 kilometers away, and I'm shining a light at both, okay? Would the brightness differ between these two mirrors? Yes or no? No. It's the same brightness, okay? That 10,000 -kilometer mirror might be like you can't actually see it, but if you actually go there, it would just be as bright, okay? And this is an experiment you can actually do at home. You don't have to believe me. You can just go home and try this experiment. No matter how far it is from you, it will still be as bright, okay? Does that make sense, right? So it's not possible for the cavity theory to be true as well. So through logic, for reason, she's able to refute your logic and reason as well, okay?

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So this is a science debate.

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Now, just as a sub -matter, the idea of the snow beneath the glows of the warm rays is stripped of both its former color and its cold. So is your mind left bare of error? I would offer now to you a new form, light so living that it trembles in your sight.

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Why is Beatrice wasting everyone's time? Why is she doing this? Why doesn't she tell Dante, Dante, you're a moron, and here's the truth? Why is she engaging in this? This is a socratic dialogue. What's the point of this? Yes?

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So I'm thinking that Dante hasn't fully convinced himself that he is in heaven yet. So his imagination is not solidified there. So if he un -convinces himself that he's in heaven, then he will just fall away and he will wake up and he will be back on earth. So Beatrice is trying to prevent that by convincing him and by solidifying his imagination in heaven.

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Do you think... the conversation actually took place.

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Okay, so why is the conversation happening? I think this is Dante, the poet, actually structuring it in such a way to demonstrate the difference between what we mentioned earlier, knowledge and imagination. Okay, action. Yes?

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I think it's just for the reader to, so the reader can reason it out through Dante's experience in heaven. So as a reader, we use logic to understand Dante.

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Okay, but I'm saying why go through this very long process? Why don't you just tell us what's going on?

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Yes? Well, I think it's just kind of the, you can call it emotional things, or the poet, they don't always think logically. They sometimes think just initiatively. That means we can call it original thinking. It's like Elon Musk said, original thinking. It's not, it's not the one, but the zero, so.

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Did, let me ask you this question. It's a really weird question, okay, and we'll end the first session with this question. Okay, the question is this. Dante wrote this in 1321. Did he, could he possibly imagine that in the year 2026, that we would be in Beijing, on this day, it's a multicultural, multilingual group, and that we would be discussing his divine comedy, trying to figure out his intention. Could he imagine this in the year 1321? What do you think? It's pretty amazing, right? Like, he wrote this in the year 1321. He didn't even know where China was. That then, never experienced the world. Could he have imagined that in the year 2026, that we would be together trying to figure out, his intention? Could he have, could he have imagined that? Who says yes?

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Someone say yes. Just for fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I think it's yes. Why? I think it is because just like Shakespeare, he says that maybe the things that we can be forgotten, but worse, will be remembered forever. So, everyone will want their own work can become masterpiece, including Tanking, I suppose. Yeah.

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Yes. I guess if what he writes is close to the truth, and close to what it should be, true, it will stand the test of time, right? So, Tanking, 50 years from now, 1,000 years from now, 2,000 years from now.

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Yeah, okay. Good. Right. Anyone else? Like, could he have known that one day, we'd be reading this, and discussing this, in Beijing, in 2026?

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I don't know, like maybe in, oh, sorry. I don't know, maybe when he was on this journey, he might have like seen this. So, like, that's why he, after 20 years, he was like very adamant that I'm going to be documenting this conversation, and leaving this work, and for example, for an actor, so that watching both.

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Do you think he actually had this conversation in heaven? Do you think any of this is actually true? Yeah, that's the poll.

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I think, I think to analyze this, you need to strip the situation of his trappings. So, you said we're here in Beijing, and we're here, this group of people specifically talking, and of course, he could not have seen these trappings. These are material trappings. But, if we delve down into the archetype of what we're doing, which is discussing his work, which is deriving knowledge, deriving nourishment from him, then this archetype is a constant across all ages, and he could absolutely have foreseen that this was going to happen.

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Okay, that's right. So, 500 years from now, is it possible that another group of people will be watching, this video, and analyzing what we're discussing? Is that possible? What would make it possible? Why would they be doing this?

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Oh, they'll be reading Dante. They'll be reading Dante. I'm not sure if they'll be watching the video. But, how can you be sure they'll be reading Dante?

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Yes? Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

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Well, maybe because, like Dante knew that his book would change the course of history, or we would think in this room that this would change the course of history. But, Dante didn't know that. Well, not for certain.

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Oh, actually, he did know that.

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Really?

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Yes, he did. Okay? He did know that when he wrote this. What happened to him after he finished his life comedy? Do you guys know? Died. He died. Right after he finished his life comedy, he died. Yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah, he died.

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Yes? Well, I think these topics are eternal, and that's what makes us human. So, even after maybe 5,000 years, somebody will still learn from these topics and try to learn from people that taught these topics before.

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Okay, yes? Yeah, I was gonna expand on that, and just say that people are gonna forever have curiosity and seek questions about God, and they will never be answered until we invite them.

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Yeah, okay. So, I would just say, that if you just look into your heart, you know what is eternal, what is true, okay? And you know it that is eternal and what is true, then you know that this will both extend into the future as well as extend back in the past, okay? And this is something that you can't actually logically explain, something that is just done through faith and intuition, okay? All right, so we'll end the morning session on this note, and then we'll come back at one o 'clock all right okay all right thanks okay uh welcome back to the live stream um so uh for those of you watching online please note that every day we start class probably at 10 o 'clock then we'll break at 12 for lunch uh and then we'll come back at one o 'clock and we continue until three o 'clock okay so the live stream

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is from 10 a.m until 3 p.m but please note there's an hour break in between um just so that we can rest and get some food to eat okay so um again for the first day we're establishing themes and ideas that structure the divine harmony and then um after we do that then i want to expand and give you questions and exercises that help you promote your intuition in your imagination because that's what's going to allow you to fully understand the divine comedy something that's really important for you guys to keep in mind is that right now i'm offering you my interpretation okay another caveat that's very important is that we are reading this in english this is one of dozens of translations so there's gonna be problems in interpretation because we because we don't speak italian so if you really want to understand divine comedy if you really want to experience starting

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for yourself you have to read aloud divine comedy in italian as it was designed okay and like it was it's a and like the thing that is um the thing i believe all divine comedy is that it's an act of divine inspiration it's an act of divine inspiration it's an act of divine inspiration meaning that dante wrote this um by channeling god and the universe and only by reading aloud the italian the tuscan can you experience this for yourself okay because when you do so you will be channeling dante himself so um i hope that this class will only be the beginning of a lifelong journey okay i think it'll be a lifelong journey into truly experiencing uh dante um another thing that i do in this class which may be a bit weird is i treat the divine comedy as perfection meaning that every word every idea is perfect and if we don't understand

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it it's because of the limitations of our own intuition and imagination it doesn't make sense okay so if we're a bit confused it's not his fault it's awful it's just the beginning of our journey um that's what i've done and uh i work under this assumption all right okay so let's continue from uh let's continue uh can you do you read uh carol thanks

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so much for reading by the way thank you now just as the sub matter of the snow beneath the blows of the warm rays is stripped of both its former color and it's cold so is your mind left bare of error, I would offer now to you a new form, light so living that it trembles in your sight.

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Okay, so the idea here is, if you truly want to understand something, you need to engage in debate, right? Because this is the year 1321, and the idea is just obey the Catholic Church, just obey your priest, and you'll understand. And what Donnie is saying is, no, you have to engage in open debate, Socratic debate, you truly want to understand. So as a teacher, you have to allow your students to make errors. Okay? All right, keep on going. Within the heaven of the godly peace revolves a body and whose power lies the being of all things that it unfolds.

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Okay, all right.

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So this is really interesting. And I want to think about this. So um, the metaphor that's being used is, body, right? The universe is a body. Okay? So as an exercise, I want to think about what other metaphors we can use to describe the universe, right? The metaphor that's being used here is body. But I want to explore other possibilities. What are some other possibilities for how to describe the universe? Anyone? Yes.

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A big big ball.

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A big ball. Okay. A big ball. All right. That's interesting. What else? Yes? God. God itself. Okay, that's a possibility. What else?

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In Chinese mythology, they describe it as a turtle that's standing on top of an elephant that's standing on top of something else.

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I don't know how to describe that. Okay. Turtle on top of an elephant. So is it fair to say that there are multiple dimensions and they're all interlocking? Okay. So maybe interlocking dimensions. Okay. This is new to me. You guys are far more creative than I am. Yes. What else?

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Press on the mic.

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Energy and vibration? Okay. Energy. Sure. What else? Yes. The soul. Hmm? The soul. The soul. The soul. That's okay. The soul? The soul. Okay. What else? I can think of other metaphors. uh uh have a cave a cave okay okay okay again you guys have far more credit than i am i would not never come up with these on my own anyone else okay how about garden okay how about

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a factory um there's a tv show that describes the universe as a jeremy baramee so there's an i and then so like the word jeremy bear me because the word jeremy and the j the j and the y connect so the idea is that the universe is a loop that goes in a jeremy bear me but then there's a i and if you accidentally end up on that eye you're stuck forever this is way too complicated for

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for me okay all right okay this is like beyond my intention okay all right my the point i'm trying to make is that depending on the metaphor you will perceive the universe in the different way okay so if you just say the energy is the universe's energy it's basically complete chaos right chaos and randomness um to say the soul it's like a fractal right basically your soul is a universe and then it mirrors the entire universe okay uh a cave is basically just a simulation is that is that fair to say a cave would be a simulation simulation it's not real okay um a uh god would be um the mind of god okay we're living in a dream basically a ball i i would not know how to describe a ball but a ball i think would be

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why would you say it's a ball i should clarify i mean like a crystal ball like a little simulacrum and inside is everything and you can shake it up and it'll change a little so so it's still a simulation no no not a simulation it's a ball which contains energy

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which is more like a crookable a reactor yeah i'm so confused okay um okay so a garden is something like god um as the gardener right does that make sense we're all just a flower in the garden god's always taking care of us right nurturing us cultivating us a factory is like a machine where there are certain laws to the universe and we're governed by these laws okay so the ball that even body is interesting because it is distinct from all other of these metaphors why would what does a body signify all right you have a body you have a brain you have arms why would that be a good metaphor for the universe uh yes uh like it would mean that we are like a

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like really part of the universe and that we can also reflect like upon ourself compared to the universe like what it is yes thank you yes directly interact with it yes thank you yes

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uh just that the body is a metaphor for the universe as in as a human the body is all that there is everything is contained within okay yes um in a body there are organs and they all have

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a purpose and they all work together so everything is connected so there's two things

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everything is connected to is everything has a role good yes a body can like receive ideas and then enact them the brain right yeah and so what's a brain ideas or the mind okay anyone else yes

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maybe the body of christ or something each has a role or like the head will be leadership and then

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the other parts hands and feet are like the actions yes a body can die yeah a body can die yeah okay

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um yeah all right yes maybe the cells because uh body has cells right yeah many many stars yes okay

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stars is like so yeah i guess it's interesting that if if humans are the image of god and then he's taking this metaphor as the universe and he's creating a metaphor as the image of humans as well

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right yes right so the universe is a human as well yes anyone else okay so some key ideas that we want to remember um that we can get strew from body from the using bodies metaphor for universe is first of all interconnectedness right everything is interconnected together um the role meaning every part of the body is important right if you lose a finger if you lose a cell it's going to cause problems for you the last of is and this is really important is that intentionality intentionality a body cannot be random right energy can be random um but a body there has to be some intentionality that is designed to it the the body has a purpose it has direction right it's not just random chaos so that's the idea uh inherent in the body metaphor okay

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all right let's continue that follows yeah the sphere that follows we're so much is shown to varied essences bestows that being to stars distinct and yet contained in it the other spheres in ways diverse direct the diverse powers they possess so that these forces can bear fruit attain their aims so these organs of the universe proceed as you now see from stage to stage receiving from above and acting downward okay so all these different spheres that we see

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in the heavens they're like organs in a body right and what's really important to understand is that each organ has its own distinct role and purpose if you lose an organ that's a problem okay so there's an intentionality uh and each sphere has a certain purpose and it's all to a design okay on going and by the way we'll be visiting these spheres one by one okay keep on going um so do so

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do these organs of the universe proceed as you now see from stage to stage receiving from above and acting downward now do you attend to how i pass by way of reason to the truth you want that then you may learn how to cross the ford alone to cross the ford alone means to learn so that

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you can be fully independent right you are in this class in order to be able to redefine comedy by

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yourself one day all right keep on going the force and motion of the holy spheres must be inspired by the blessed movers just as the smith imparts the hammer's art and so from the deep mind that makes it wheel the sphere that many lights adorn receives that stamp of which it then becomes the seal so

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god is the brain and all the spears or different organs okay keep on going and as the soul within

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your dust is shared by different organs each most suited to a different potency so does that mind unfold and multiply its bounty through the varied heavens though that intellect itself revolves upon its unity with the dear body that it quickens and with which as life and you it too is each different powers forms a different compound because of the glad nature of its source the power mingled with the sphere shines forth as gladness through the living pupil shine from this and not from matter rare or dense derive the differences from light to light this is the forming principle producing conforming with its worth the dark the bright okay all right so you guys

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understand the point here i know that you're going to be able to understand the point here i know that in school you study evolution you study physics and you believe that the universe is emergent meaning there are some basic principles and then from this will emerge other things okay and what dante is saying is that's just a wrong way to understand the universe there is intentionality there is interconnectedness and the reason why the moon shines differently from other spheres is that god manifests differently in different places okay and it's all to a certain design and intention and beatrice says you must understand this idea if we are to move on okay so before we move on are there any questions yes

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how could like like why why could our understanding of the world as having evolved from basic principle

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not not coin is there any answer to this does anyone want to respond to this idea why why is this you're asking like why is this in contradiction right okay well i mean like there's a debate between evolution and intelligent design right where the people who believe in evolution said it is not because of god it's not because of intention it's because of survival of fittest because of darwinism right and so what is the the the question can you try to hide the use the handheld maybe

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you have to turn it on yeah so like why could not god not have designed darwinism god designed darwinism and allow darwinism to take his course because that's what god wants okay so um this is

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a different conception of god okay so there are you can say like god is an architect who designed the rules of the universe and no longer cares does that make sense because he's already designed the game and we just play the game and he doesn't really care what happens what dante is saying is like no god is still with us and god um shows his approval by shining his light in us does that make sense all right okay do you do you understand this idea it's the difference between a game developer and a game master who plays his own game uh it's it's a rough metaphor yes but but yeah the idea is that um in evolution what they're saying is that the universe is independent of god does it make sense yeah okay god doesn't interfere in the universe what beatrice is saying to dante is like no god is always present we know

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because the spears shine differently okay all right any more questions before we move on it's really important you guys make sure you understand otherwise you you usually get more and more confused as we go along

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yes uh so you you mean the god is just like uh you know the sun or we are just like a mirror so the god just shine upon our all of us and we can reflect to god back right so the metaphor

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that features uses the body right so god is the brain okay so we're always in interfacing with the with god all right okay all right let's continue to cattle three please that son which first had

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warmed my breast with love had now revealed to me confuting proving the gentle face of truth

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it's loveliness and i sorry what's the sun apollo but what else god and what else inspiration okay god um apollo and what else who stopped who who's he talking to beatrice beatrice right so how can we reconcile this this is a paradox who who is he talking to god or polo or beatrice this is a paradox so how can we reconcile this yeah so i'm gonna borrow

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from william i i'm gonna borrow from william blake here so uh william blake has his god and he also has god as a sacrifice but how is he talking to us with the paradise for also has the God's emanations, you can consider emanations as representatives of the God. So Beatrice here is on behalf of Apollo, on behalf of God in a more concrete form in order to show Dante.

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Exactly. Okay. Does that make sense to you guys? Okay. Well, ultimately, the secret is that God is love, okay? And love can take different manifestations. We can use different ways to describe this love. It can manifest itself as Apollo, it can manifest itself as Beatrice, but it's really the same force. Okay? All right. Okay. Let's keep on going.

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And I, in order to declare myself corrected and convinced, lifted my head as high as my confessional required. But a new vision showed itself to me. The grip in which it held me was so fast that I did not remember to confess. Just as returning through transparent, clean glass. Or through waters calm and crystalline, so shallow that they scarcely can reflect. The mirrored image of our faces meets our pupils with no greater force than that a pearl has when displayed on a white forehead. So faint, the many faces I saw keen to speak, thus my mistake was contrary to that which led the man to love the fountain. As soon as I had noticed them, thinking that what I saw were merely mirroring, I turned around to see who they might be and i saw nothing and i let my sight turn back to meet the light of my dear guide who as she smiled

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glowed in her holy eyes there's no need to wonder if i smile she said because you reason like a child your steps do not yet rest upon the truth your mind misguides you into emptiness what you are seeing are true substances placed here because their vows were

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not fulfilled okay so dante is um in the spears and he sees people and he's completely confused by this because why why is this happening right why is everyone not with god why are people separated from god okay and beatrice is saying uh it's trying to explain to him keep on going

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you're okay thus speak and listen trust what they will say the truthful light in which they find their peace will not allow their steps to turn astray then i turned to the shade that seemed most anxious to speak and i began as would a man bewildered by desire to intent o spirit born to goodness you who feel beneath the rays of the eternal life that sweetness which cannot be known unless it is experience it would be gracious of you to let me know your name and fate at this unhesitant with smiling eyes our charity will never lock its gates against just will our love is like the love that would have all its court be like itself within the world i was a nun a virgin and if your mind attends and recollects my greater beauty here will not conceal me and you will recognize me as picarda who placed here with the other blessed

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ones and blessed within the slowest of the spheres our sentiments which only serve the flame that is the pleasure of the holy ghost the light and their conforming to his order and we are to be found within a sphere this low because we have neglected vows so that in some

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respect we were deficient okay so this is really interesting okay so there's a hierarchy to the heavens and at the very bottom are those who are inconstant meaning those who have failed to fulfill their vows okay so keep on going and i to her within your wonderful semblance there's something

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divine that glows transforming the appearance you once showed therefore by recognizing you as low but what you now have told me is of health i can identify you much

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more clearly okay so picard is actually someone that dante the historical figure knew in real life okay so throughout the divine comedy there are mythical mythical figures but they're also people who were part of dante's life now some background about background about dante is that he was essentially an aristocrat in florence who participated in uh politics there was a there was many struggles for power in florence and this was true for throughout the italy okay and this power struggle is something that we will discuss as we move along okay but just remember there's a power to struggle ricardo is someone that dante knew in real life keep on

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going but tell me though you're happy here do you desire a higher place in order to see more and to be still more close to him together with her fellow shades she smiled at first then she replied to me with such gladness like one who burns with love's first flame brother the power of love appeases our will so we only long for what we have we do not thirst for greater blessedness should we desire a higher sphere than ours then our desires would be discordant with the will of him who has assigned us here but you'll see no such discord in these fears to live in love is here necessity if you think on love's nature carefully the essence of this blessed life consists in keeping to the boundaries of God's will through which our wills become one single will so that as we arranged from step to step throughout this kingdom all this kingdom

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wills that which will please the king whose will is rule and in his will there is our peace that see to which all beings move the beings

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he creates or nature makes such as his will okay so donnie asked her question the question is clearly this is our key in heaven and you are in the outer sphere right your the core is God so do you desire as a person to move closer to God basically graduate right to move from the other sphere to the inner sphere what is your response why not I said we are content here yeah but why yes uh she is content

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because she has to be absolutely obedient to God and God says that she has to be content here so she has to be content if she is not content she would not even be worthy of this first sphere okay yeah does that make sense guys okay that's exactly what

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she says but what's a paradox here what's a paradox here yeah her her free will couldn't get her higher right but she but she doesn't want to go higher something though yeah so God's God's making the decision for her though right that's right and she accepts that that decisions but that's a paradox why

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uh it will place God as a judge and we said that he wasn't putting persons into places

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right no I but that's my interpretation I'm saying like like within the structure there's a paradox what's the paradox there's a logical contradiction here she says God has willed me to be here and it is my role my duty to obey his will therefore I'm happy where I am but what's the problem with this

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with this logic yes um so I'm thinking say this is the first sphere and there's the second sphere and eventually someone will have to advance from the first sphere to the second sphere right and the second sphere is supposed to be better than the first sphere so you'll be happier in the second sphere then you were in the first sphere however according to this logic one could never advance one could never change because if you want to advance to the second second sphere that you are not even worthy of the first sphere if you don't want to advance to the second sphere and that forced you to advance to the second sphere anyways then you will be less happy in the second sphere than you were in the first sphere which is not fitting with the second sphere yeah it makes

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absolutely no sense you understand the logic here right if if it was just a case where you just obey God's will and then everyone's in heaven there'll be no hierarchy in heaven why is there a hierarchy it makes sense okay so why is she stuck where she is why is she in the lower sphere to me because she's contented yeah because she's happy where she is right she wants to be there that's a problem okay all right all right do you guys understand this all right okay let's keep on reading Carol then it was clear

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to me how every place in heaven is in Paradise so Grace does not reign equally from the high good but just as when our hunger has been stated with one food one food we still long to taste the other while thankful for the first we crave the ladder so was I in my words and my gestures asking to learn from her what was the web of which her shuttle had not reached the end a perfect life she said and her high Merit and Heaven up above a woman whose rule governs those who in your world would wear Nun's dress and veil so that until their death they wake and sleep with that spouse Who accepts all vows that love conforms unto his pleasure still young I've let the world to follow her and in her order's habit I enclosed myself and promised my life to her rule then men more gente malice than to good

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took me violently from my sweet cloister God knows what after that my life became this other radiance that shows itself to you at my hand a brightness kindled by all the light that fills our heaven she has understood what I have said she was a sister and from her head to by force the shadow of the sacred veil was taken but though she had been turned back to the world against her will against all honest practice the veil upon her heart was never loosed this is the splendor of the great Costanza who from the Swabian second gust engendered the one who was their first their third and final power

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she makes me what's going on okay so Donna is asking her um why are you here and she says well what happened was that my brother is is very powerful Duke and I fell in love with God and I wanted to serve God so I followed a woman into the nun ear quella bit him and not right I made my tapping jascal love did what I want to do but don't don't do it again my vows to God. My brother, the Duke, needed me as a pawn for his power politics, right? He wanted to marry me off to someone else to form an alliance. So he sent his soldiers to force me back to him, and then he married me off. But even though I was married, even though I gave children, I never abandoned my love for God. In my heart, I maintain loyalty to God. So even though my body no longer was chaste, my heart was chaste, okay?

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And it's not just me, but my friend here, same situation where she was also a nun, and she was also stolen to be married off by her brother, okay? And so it seems, it seems as though they've done nothing wrong. Yet at the same time, they are in the lowest sphere, okay? Which basically tells us God doesn't really approve of their actions. This is a paradox, right? They did everything right. They did nothing wrong. They were forced to get married. What did they do wrong?

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They didn't - Nothing, right? They didn't like have ambition. They didn't try to exercise their free will.

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Wait, how could they exercise their free will? By refusing. Yeah, but there are soldiers with swords dragging her away. What could she have done? She could have tried to escape, or killed herself.

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Okay, wait, wait, yeah.

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She couldn't, she couldn't off herself because in Catholicism that's a sin, exactly. Thank you. Yes.

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Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. important constraint okay so in the catholic religion at this time the worst sin in the world is suicide understand you kill someone that's not as bad as if you kill yourself so suicide's the worst sin okay and why they made this a sin is it was very common for women who are who are raped to kill themselves why yeah but why kill yourself no one will want to marry them right but they were christians you understand they were christians so they thought if i kill myself i just go with jesus and that's why the church hasn't said no you can't kill yourself anymore okay in fact augustine wrote an entire essay on this saying like the worst sin is suicide much more much worse than rape because look at the end of the day this would be your body they can't touch your soul right what matters is your soul your

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body doesn't matter your body belongs to this earth which is nothing but your soul belongs to god which is everything okay so don't worry if you get raped don't worry if you get married it doesn't matter what matters is your faith and what so why is she in the lower sphere she's living right what's what's wrong with this

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yeah uh maybe god think that the body or the stories is what i give to you but if you just deny it it means that you deny me so maybe you need to be tortured

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okay let's let's elaborate on your idea here okay i think you can't kill yourself right so what do you do so you you should run away but they'll just catch you

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right because you're running back like a disney princess like you fight back

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yes yes actually i was going to say that what about if she used the free will and she does fight back and dies honorably and then it's not really suicide it's still suicide but is dante saying that in this case suicide is okay like is he going against suicide?

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suicide?

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dante would never say suicide's okay okay yeah well but but but again like like what's going on here

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is he is he trying to kind of criticize the the the christian churches

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no okay no he did yeah could he be bringing randomness and luck into this at all she had a bad luck

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does does does dante believe in in randomness and luck okay yes so

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so uh this lowest fear is for people who have broken their promises when you enter a nunnery you make a vow to be chast to be a virgin forever and no matter how you did it no matter who forced you to do this you still broke that promise in the eyes of god and so god will assign you where you need to go i understand this

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but this morning we just said that god was all forgiving all loving i'm not judgmental this is clearly judgmental clearly she does nothing wrong why is she here what's going on here guys

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yeah forgive herself so she confined herself to that sphere yeah well that issue she she did say

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that i belong here and i'm happy here right but the question is like how did she end up here that's a question right what did she do wrong she clearly did something wrong what was it okay so i'm going to write down a phrase okay and you guys have all heard this phrase before but you tell me what it means where there is a will there is a way what does it mean

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like how rapunzel was stuck in the tower she escaped so if she had a will if she had a will to escape she could have escaped and even if she died she would have been she would have died honorably in trying to you know

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exercise her free will okay anyone else i don't understand how this works where there's a will there is a way what does this mean okay yeah you really want to escape and you escape but

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but how does that work yeah well you like manifest a way or like you imagine a way in your mind out of it and then some in some way the universe will give you a way to get there

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exactly okay could you repeat that that's exactly this is exactly it okay okay make sure everyone

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understands this idea say city yeah well the if you like can imagine the world that you want then you the the universe will be able to showcase a way for you and then you will be able to work it

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hey does that make sense you guys hey let me explain the process first of all is the will you really really want it okay when that happens is you don't know how an idea will come into your mind you will imagine a way and then what happened is that this manifestation this imagination the universe will respond and shape reality in a way that allows you to manifest your will does that make sense guys okay so the problem is that she did not want it enough you understand it isn't that she broke a will it's just she was not faithful enough if you really want to escape then an idea would have come into your mind to show you the way and then you just go do it and the universe bends reality in a way that allows you to escape okay but the key is the will right and what this is saying is like

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you can do everything you want to you anything you want the universe will grant it to you the question is do you really really want it or not and clearly she did not and how do we know she doesn't want it she's here oh yeah sure she's she's here what else it happened to her anyways no but what's her problem right now she doesn't want to go anywhere else you understand that's the problem oh it's not that she's here it's like she doesn't want to go beyond this point she's like i'm perfectly happy here man i've been to heaven i'm awesome you know like i've been to yale i'm the worst student at yale but i'm happy being the worst student at yale like that that's like literally what she's saying okay right all right any more questions because do you guys this is a really important idea if you you want to understand don't

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do okay you are always in communication with the universe right it's only a question of like how focused how intentional how much will do you have in achieving what you want all right so if you don't get yeah i i just want to add that like

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um that's what like free will is about like free will is not just being able to do what to what you want but like being able to will what you want exactly it's all it's more about the world and like the the action

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yeah that's exactly correct yes yes after like nietzsche's will to power idea or is it different

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okay let's just say for whatever reason you want to become king right and what's the question

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is dentist this idea about will kind of the same as nietzsche's idea about will to power like

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yes yes it's very similar yes is it it reminds me of a concept we learned in psychology where it's called self -efficacy as brought up by van dora the idea is that um like the number one reason why you're able to accomplish something is you believing in yourself that you can accomplish that thing exactly right and it's

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the word we we it's it's like we the popular phrase is manifestation you understand you manifest it okay meaning you imagine it but you're able to imagine because you will it into being right which which is nietzsche's point okay and i mean like it's really important to understand that um what they're all saying is that there's really no good and evil in the universe there's just will okay and so it's entirely your choice how to live it and i know this sounds a bit weird but um we'll try to unpack it as we go along okay this this idea here okay uh you also had

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had a comment or a question yeah i just wanted to clarify did she like not want to escape bad enough did she not want to ascend to the next sphere bad enough okay all right so so so let's go deeper

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into this okay you're picarda okay you're in a convent you're happy in the convent soldiers come to you okay let's try to imagine her state of mind what is she thinking what's the emotions going through her mind what what is she thinking right now she's in the convent there's like an army like outside the convent demanding that she go with them right and they're they're like mean they're towards they they're really mean people and like quite honestly they could come and kill everyone in the convent right what is she thinking right now what was her thought process you're like she's

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um really in despair because obviously as like one woman she um cannot face off this group of people fear and despair right yeah and then maybe like she will pray to god because like hopefully god will save her but maybe it wasn't like strong enough and and what will god yeah yeah sorry

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i don't know what to say to this you're you're afraid you're in the spirit you pray to god please say please save me please save me so what's wrong with that yeah well um i just wanted to say that

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god just needs your trust so if you trust god and you love god enough then you wouldn't fear death and you wouldn't be afraid of the soldiers yeah that's the problem the fear is a problem you

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understand the fact that you fear means you don't really truly believe in god it truly it doesn't it really really want to be saved okay it's that fear you understand yeah okay so that's why she's stuck where she is because she's afraid it's not like she's happy but she's afraid of the unknown she's afraid of that leap of faith that you have to put into god that's her limitation yeah

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can i ask a follow -up question so is it still possible for her to change in heaven like maybe a will to advance or of course it is what's the problem oh so um at first i thought like what she did as a human like defined like where she will go and like heaven and uh no it doesn't oh okay

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yeah but what's the problem with her um like she doesn't want to advance exactly you understand okay okay and why and why why doesn't she want to um what's the reason why she's maybe she's

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like content or like no it's not because she's content it's

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because but why does she have a will she's afraid to understand it's the fear you understand oh okay

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right it's a fear and the fear that she's she's scared that like she cannot advance or yeah she's

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afraid of disappointment she's afraid of failure okay okay right so she's stuck saying okay well

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god just wants me here so i'm just going to stay here yeah it's a pretext it's a rationale so it's like comforting yourself when you got like a bad grade or something

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right it's yeah it's a very human reaction we do this all the time right yeah yeah we said we're happy you know being the worst student at yale but you're not okay okay yeah i got it thank

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you all right any more questions or comments yeah oh yeah so i just want to know the difference between a worship and a belief for example i believe in god but it doesn't mean that i worship god because i think worship is a higher much higher believed in does god give you worship or not

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does god care if you worship him or not does god give you a christian or not it's also like it doesn't matter do you understand what matters are your actions right what matters is your actions that define who you are right if you are ricarda and you're like if you like okay let's use your imagination there's an army surrounding the convent okay the army says you come up now or come in and we'll kill everyone in the comment okay and ricarda is fearless and she has total faith in god what could she have done to get herself out of the situation guys use your imagination what could you have done imagine yourself as ricarda you're in a comment yeah maybe like i wouldn't actually

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do it but i'll probably pretend to suicide or whatever like if you guys dare to come in i'll

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just kill myself yeah do you understand this you just stand on top of the roof and says okay guys you come in the door i'll jump jump down right if you're the army what's your job again what's your job as the army to get her safely to the exactly right and so what would the army do try to go up to the castle and like bring her down no they wouldn't they'd be afraid right because where are they now no no i'm saying where are they what what building or is in front of them god god is in front of them you understand who do you think has taken possession of picarda right now if you see a woman okay who's like a princess and she's standing on top of a roof and says hey guys you come in i'll jump i'll jump down who do you think you're fighting now god you're feeling you're

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fighting god now okay and so they're gonna run away right they go back to the duke and says hey man uh your sister's crazy what's the dude gonna do marry another woman well he'll probably come in himself okay and now he's outside the nunnery and she's doing the same thing again right you come in and jump down the roof what's he what's he gonna do try to persuade her but fail maybe and then what's he what's what's he gonna do then go away he has to go home now you understand it's like you can't deal with this crap right but you see what's happened just the will like yeah like uh this

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this is actually a question directed at something you said earlier so you said earlier that your actions define where where where you are on this celestial ladder however uh spoilers but but like in purgatory are the good pagans so the good pagans who did not believe in god but did good deeds so if your deeds define who you who you are then why are the good pagans stuck there um okay we have not read complete the divine comedy

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what you'll find is that even though catholic church says that your christian identity determines if you go to heaven or hell donnie doesn't believe this okay all right it doesn't make sense as we keep on reading you'll find that there are pagans who are in heaven okay

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yeah all right yeah um about the like the imaginative situation that um when she that she says that she's gonna like fall off the the castle what if the soldiers just think that she's lying and then like and or if she says that but she doesn't really believe it would they still like come and get her or would they be convinced

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by her well imagine if you were a soldier what would you be thinking yeah she could be bluffing and and are you gonna take the chance no you're not gonna take a chance okay okay wirklich i mean like okay i mean you have to like imagine yourself in that situation okay you're the soldier ricardo is doing this crap on you right you have to think god has taken possession of her and and they are in a nunnery you understand okay so the human reaction would be like i need to get out of here man this is not a good situation situation for me right because if i go back and i tell the dude your sister's crazy and she won't come home what will the duke do up with your head um well i think

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it's the problem with the livelihoods because maybe they're paid by the duke and then like if they aren't paid that they wouldn't be able to feed like their families back home i think okay

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well imagine two situations the first situation is you go back to the duke and says your sister's crazy and uh we have to like come back second situation is like we thought your sister was bluffing so we stormed the nunnery and she jumped off the roof now she's dead yeah the first one is probably better for you okay it's a lot better for you right okay so again i'm not saying uh this is what's going to happen i'm saying like if you have the will there's always going to be a way okay and that's something that dante is trying to portray here okay all right okay uh let's keep

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on reading this said she then began to sing ave maria and while singing vanished as a weighty thing will vanish in deep water my sight which followed her as long as it was able to once she was out of view returned to where its greater longing lay and it was wholly bent on beatrice but she then struck my eyes with so much brightness that i at first could not withstand her force and that made me delay my question

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so um dante has met ricarda and now he wants to ask beatrice a question what is this question we spent the last hour talking about it what question does dante really really want to ask beatrice now what did she do wrong right like i don't understand this at all she did nothing wrong okay all right uh let's continue to candle fire

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before a man bit into one of two foods equally removed and tempting he would die of hunger if his choice were free so would a lamb stand motionless between the cravings of two savage wolves in fear of both so would a dog between two deer thus i need neither blame nor praise myself when both my doubts compelled me equally what kept me silent was necessity so donnie is

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very confused so confused that he's in fear okay he has anxiety over this again the question is what did per carter do wrong here he's really confused by this keep on going

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i did not speak but in my face were seen longing and questioning more ardent than if spoken words had made me made them evident then beatrice did just as daniel did when he appeased nebuchadnezzar's nebuchadnezzar's nebuchadnezzar's anger the rage that made the king unjustly fierce she said i see how both desires draw you so that your anxiousness to know is self -tangled and cannot express itself your reason if my will to good persists why should the violence of others cause the measure of my merit to be less okay so

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they understand this okay picardo what'd she do wrong she was forced to leave the convent she had no choice in the matter so why is she stuck in the lowest sphere okay keep on going

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and you're also led to doubt because the doctrine plato taught would find support by souls appearing to return to the star these are the questions that within your will press equally for answers therefore I shall treat the most insidious question first neither the seraph closest unto God nor moses samuel nor gemini put her to stained in such a direct relation to him or him nor either John, whichever one you will, nor Mary has, I say, their place in any other heaven than that which houses those souls you just saw, nor will their blessedness last any longer. But all those souls raised the Empyrean, and in each of them has gentle life, though some sends the eternal spirit more, some less. They showed themselves to you here, not because this is their sphere, but as a sign for you that in the Empyrean their place is lowest.

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Okay, so this is a really important idea to keep in mind, okay? This is a metaphorical representation of the heavens. In the actual heavens, there is no time and space, so there is no hierarchy, okay? But there are certain souls that are not as worthy as other souls, and so they are now... They are now visually depicted in the lower spheres, okay? So this is just an optical illusion in order for us to better understand what's going on. Do you want to go in?

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Such signs are suited to your mind, since from the sense only can it apprehend what then becomes fit for the intellect.

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Okay, so again, there's no time and space here, right? So only by adding in time and space can we truly understand what's going on. Do you want to go in? Okay.

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And this is why the Bible condescends to human powers, assigning feet and hands to God, but meaning something else instead. And Gabriel and Michael and the angel who heals the eyes of Tobit are portrayed by Holy Church with human visages. That which Timaeus said in Reasoning of Souls does not describe what you have seen, since it would seem that as he speaks, he thinks. He says the soul returns to that same star from... So he believes it had been taken when nature sent that soul as form to body.

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Okay, all right. So the idea here is that we all come from the soul world, okay? And in the soul world, we come with a purpose. And after we die, we go back to the same place that we come from. But then this raises the question then is, what is the point of life then, right? If you're just going to end up in the same place you started out with, who cares what you do here, all right? Yes, did you have a comment or question?

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Yeah, well, through like life on earth, you can learn and have experiences and then they can shape you and maybe like make you more enlightened and help you.

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Yeah, but you still end up in the same place.

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But then, well, you could change, right? Like you can change your opinion or yourself. You will, basically.

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On this world, but back in the old world, the real world, the world of the heavens, you're still stuck where you are. But this is what Timmy is saying, okay? Not what Donnie is saying. Donnie would obviously say that, no, you can't actually ascend. Yeah.

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So I would say that's a very materialist view of life. So we're going to die anyways. So why not have fun? Like if you're stuck, if you're stuck there, then all you have is every day you can sing, I guess. But here you can drink, you can drink beer, you can have a wife, you could do a lot of things. And that's the fun that matters.

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Why not, you know, like, cause you can't, as you say, you can't get drunk and throw up, up there. So do it here, man. Right. What, what, and like, you know, have lots and lots of sex, man, and go kill someone just for fun. Right. What's stopping you? Okay. All right. I'm not saying go do these things.

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I'm just saying like, you know, but anyway, but his opinion is perhaps to be taken in other guys than his words speak, intending something not to be derided. If to these fears, he wanted to attribute honor and blame for what they influence. Perhaps his arrow reaches something true. This principle ill understood, misled almost all of the world. One. So that. Oh, and Mercury and Mars gave names to stars. The other doubt that agitates you is less poisonous or insidiousness. It's not such as to lead you far from me. To mortal eyes are injustice. Seems. unjust that this is so should serve as evidence for faith not heresy's depravity but that your intellect may penetrate more carefully into your other query i shall as you desire explain it clearly if violence means that the one who suffers has not abetted forces in any way then there's no excuse these souls can claim for will if it

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resists is never spent but acts as nature acts when fire ascends though force a thousand times tries to compel okay so here it

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she's explaining exactly what we discussed okay as long as you have the will it becomes like a fire ascending and there's no force in on our planet that can stop our will you understand same idea here where if you really want it you're going to imagine uh a solution that's a fire ascending and then the universe will will bend itself to accommodate you okay keep on going so that when will has yielded much or little

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it has a better force as these souls did they could have fled back to their holy shelter okay

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so yeah that's it okay the reason why these soldiers were able to arrest you and take you back is you let them do it you agreed to it don't say you were forced to do it okay you could have run away you could have done a lot of things okay keep on going

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at their will been as whole as that which held lawrence faster the great and that which made of musius one who judged his own hand then once freed they would have willed to find the faith from which they had been dragged but it is all too seldom that a will is so intact okay all right so

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musius is a great story have you guys ever heard the story of musius all right so what happened one time it's all over uh you know musulmans got all the work done and the trouble was um that the romans were a small republic and they're surrounded by this huge empire they were under siege and they were starving so one young normal man musius and he's like 20 years old he he suggests that he goes and assassinate the king okay so he gets permission from the father from the Roman elders, the senators, he swims across the Tiber, sneaks into the enemy camp. And he's trying to assassinate the king. The problem is that it's payday. And so there are two people on stage, the king and the secretary, and they both look alike, they dress alike. Okay? And so Moose is like, hmm, I don't know who's the king, right? I have one dagger, I'm gonna leap and I'm gonna kill someone, but I might miss.

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And it's 50 -50, okay? What would you do in that situation? What would you do? Hmm? Well, you can't, right? You understand? If you kill one, the soldiers are gonna come and arrest you, right?

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So what do you do? What would you do, seriously? Maybe I would have to kill one of them. I don't care who is real. I just kill, because I kill and it means my will is there, so.

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Yeah, okay. So most people would just go home or just wait, okay? But Moose is like, screw this, I'm gonna take a chance, okay? So he kills one, and of course, it's the secretary. So now he's arrested, and the king says to him, you see that fire over there? This fire is burning, okay? It's a bonfire. And if you don't tell me exactly who you work for and how many compatriots you have, and what your plan is, I'm gonna burn you. And I'll bonfire, okay? You either confess and tell me everything, I'm gonna burn you alive. So what does Moose just do? Yeah?

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I think he like stuck his hand in the fire and said that he's not afraid.

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Yeah, that's what he does, okay? He just put his hand in the fire, and it's burning, okay? And while this is happening, he's laughing. The king is like, you Romans are such crazy bastards, and I'm gonna go run away. And Moose is like, I'm gonna burn you alive, okay? And Moose is like, I'm coming for you. The king says, well, put your probably first hand back there or we'll burn you alive. And then Moose just, the king tells him what he's gonna say, he just goes and puts his hand in the fire, and after a few years, he's like, how did this happen? And Moose's like, smell Italian and all over the world, right? Still. And so the king's like, Listening contexts no longer exist in your first hand, Moose. And now it's like, what you will do now.

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power all right okay keep on going and through these words if you have grasped their bent you can eliminate the argument that would have troubled you again and often but now another obstacle obstructs your sight you cannot overcome it by yourself it is too wearying to try i've set in your mind as something certain that souls and blessedness can never lie since they're always near the primal truth but from picarda you were also able to hear how constance kept her love of the veil and here picarda seems to contradict me before this brother it has often happened that to flee to flee menace men unwillingly did what should not be done so did elk man to meet the wishes of his father kill his mother not to fail in filial piety piety he acted ruthlessly okay

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all right so often in life when we make decisions we often contradict principles okay so for example this man uh alzeman um his father ordered him to kill his mother obviously murder is wrong but you also have to respect your father right this disobeying your father is wrong murdering your mother is wrong what do you do okay often in life we have these more dilemmas and keep on going at

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this point i would have you see the forces to which one yielded mingles with one's will and no excuse can pardon their joint act absolute will does not concur in wrong but the contingent will through fear that its resistance might bring greater harm consent therefore picarda means the absolute will when he she speaks and i the relative so that the two of us have spoken true

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okay all right so this is a really important idea we need to unpack okay there's a difference between absolute will and relative will contingent

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will what's the difference yes so absolute will is i will love god no matter what and conde teaching will is i will love god and then someone tells you if you love god i'll kill you and so you say

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okay okay i don't i don't um okay any other theories i'd say they come from different places

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this absolute will comes from imagination it comes from your own story but it's relatively comes from reasoning reasoning logic you know comparing outcomes okay any other explanations

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absolute will contingent will what's the difference the same as absolute morality

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and relative morality what's the difference between these two things so i don't know like absolutely no matter what it's gonna happen but contingent it's kind of like because i don't want more harm to be done kind of of like what the book silence is about where the priest the catholic priest in order to project the japanese believers said that they are going to not be priests and take wives okay um we'll

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go to you then you okay yeah um i would say contingent will is constrained by reality and absolute will is like it's always there like absolute will is god basically okay i love god

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and so how can we describe these things more simplistically absolute will is what conditioned

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will is what can i answer yeah can i answer yeah um so contingent will well it will be the individual human and the absolute will would be by god displaced in us and what is our connection to the god how do we connect it to god through through love okay yes yeah um so like i would

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say that absolute will is active it is the will that finds the way it creates its own condition for it is unstoppable contingent will operates within the confines of the material it reacts to what is put before it in order to

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follow itself but right so both you and you are right okay but i'm saying attitude together what do you get like like some very simplistically what is the difference yeah yeah did you have

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a comment or question um yeah business bits who are not not related i think um um yeah okay um absolutely there's one question about what you mean by absolute will what do you mean by absolute will i think um absolute will would be faith and then um contingent will would be belief and one needs justification the other doesn't okay yeah um absolute will

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is when you're aligned with god and continuous when you're not okay but but how can we say

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this very simplistically i'm gonna give it a go try so maybe absolute will is like perfect and then like um contingent well is imperfect so it will if you don't like exercise it we'll

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well it will be like faulty and lead to like bad things okay all right so absolutely like let's put this very simple okay absolute will is a soul right the soul is always in connection with the god contingent will is the body the body needs to respond to the material universe the material world so the contingent will can be afraid so what pictures is saying is that when picardo was acting her absolute will was still true to god her contingent will um defied god okay that doesn't make sense okay but why would this be a problem yeah i have a question do these two will can they

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coexist at the same time absolute will and contingent will okay so um dante is putting this

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very simplistically okay what he's saying is that there are two wills the absolute will your soul the contingent will and the contingent will and the contingent will and the contingent will and the contingent will your body responds to uh worldly problems but um you can think of the will existing in infinite dimensions does that make sense infinite dimensions so there's infinite wills and um yeah and what are you trying to do as a person you're trying to create harmony across these infinite dimensions of wills okay you're trying to align the absolute will with a contingent will and what would you

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want to do that yeah oh yeah maybe it's just like uh i remember bruce lewis said try to be combined to harmony so maybe in china maybe most people just just like to keep balance they don't like to choose the two extreme whether you're a spiritual thing or whether materials they just

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yeah yeah i understand that yes keep on going uh yes well if you align all contingent rules and create absolute will you create godhood or you become god right no no no you're not

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trying to become god you're trying to be you're trying to be close to the god do you understand

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there's a difference but like if you can't like all the wills of the people if you can like um make them objective then that would be being like god so through doing that through power

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like no that's not what dante would say some other people would say that but not but not dante okay all right so um the idea here is there are different expressions manifestations of your will okay there's the absolute will which is always in connection with god and then there's a contingent will which is with your choices on this world and what we're trying to do is we're trying to harmonize these two wills in order to become closer to god in order to make the right decisions okay so for carla in her instance her absolute will was loyal to god but her contingent will uh surrendered to fear okay and that's what her problem was does that make sense guys any questions before we move on yeah um so how can we combine these two wheels together like better oh any response to this how do you combine these two together

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well maybe uh because why people just feel scared about death because they don't know what they're going to go right but if we know we're going to go there must be some kind of universe in that place maybe we don't need to scare about it the fear is come from unknown but if we know something then we don't think

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the fear that's right so historically there have been two solutions okay the first solution is knowledge gnosis continue to like just continue to read dante explore and just discover the secrets of the universe and once you have the knowledge you lose fear right because why do you of why are you afraid of death because you're afraid because you're afraid that if you die you'll just be nothing but if you actually know the secrets of the universe you recognize that death is just a release or it's just a beginning of something else so you lose that fear okay so knowledge is one possibility but another possibility is the idea of love okay just love someone so intensely that you give yourself that person and you lose your fear and when you love someone unconditionally what happens is the absolute will and the contingent will combine together because all your actions are dictated by your uh love

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for that person this is what Dante will tell us later on it doesn't make sense knowledge or love okay all right uh can you can

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you read please such was the rippling of the holy stream issuing from the fountain from which springs all truth it's set to rest both of my longing then I said oh beloved of the first lover oh you divine whose speech so floods and warms me that I feel more and more life however deep my gratefulness it cannot match your grace with grace enough but he who sees and can may he grant recompense I now see well we cannot satisfy our mind unless it is enlightened by the truth beyond whose boundary no truth lies mind reaching that truth mind reaching that truth rest within it as a beast within its lair mind can attain that truth if not all our all our desires were vain therefore our our doubting blossoms like a shoot out from the root of truth this natural urge spurs us toward the peak from height to height lady my knowing why we

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doubt invites sustains my reverend asking you about another truth that is obscure to me I want to know if in your eyes one can amend for unkept vows with other acts good works your balance will not find too scant then Beatrice looked at me with eyes so full of sparks of love eyes so divine that my own force of sight was overcome took flight and eyes downcast I

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almost lost my senses okay so um this is very much a student teacher relationship right where Beatrice is the teacher and Dante is a student and as the teacher what Beatrice really wants is for the student to ask questions to doubt to challenge because only through this process can a student achieve full understanding okay so um why is Beatrice excited about the question that Dante asked okay so we've had this long discussion about Picarda right we now know what she did wrong and we now know why she is in a lower sphere but then Dante asked this question and he asked this question and the question is so she screwed up okay she um was taken by the soldiers from the nunnery so she that showed a lack of will but is it possible for her to redeem herself from the act of charity so wonderful that it redeems her from her lack of will

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does that make sense guys like so she she come she's a nun uh she's taking away and now she becomes a queen and she's like you know what I want to be the best queen in the world I'm going to give all my wealth to all the poor people in the world that makes sense right what do you guys think

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that work except that wouldn't solve the core problem of her still being fearful of failure right fearful of consenting okay can you explain some more please the reason why Picardia was was was not able to transcend could get to the next level was because she was fearful at the core in life in her journey she's still gonna get back to that same situation where she'll have to choose right between a rock and a hard place right so then if she doesn't have the will to to transcend that then um you know you're still not the next level

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you're still not in the next sphere okay okay so that's logically correct yes okay but but let's

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go deeper yes yeah so I was thinking that she cannot be redeemed by this because um essentially she is doing all these like acts of charity uh for like the result of her redeeming herself so she's like she's continuing about these like acts of kindness and I don't think that that's able to redeem her yeah but who cares she's still helping them more yeah but then that act would not be like totally good because it would be for like a selfish purpose like if that makes sense I

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understand that makes sense but I'm trying to logically understand what's going on so I mean she breaks her vow then she goes and like um helps a billion people live happier lives right she's a great queen wouldn't that redeem her in the eyes of god yes but like no actually not yes it would not redeem her in the eyes of god

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but i'm trying to figure out yeah so i guess like my answer to that would be like she is pushing herself to do a lot of these things because she stole is worried that like god is not going to like forgive her and then that she's going to end in like a bad circle in heaven so yes she is still worried so like she's still not like acting upon that well okay i don't understand

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because she just helped a billion people live happier lives and it's coming from a place of anxiety and fear she's afraid that god will punish her but the results are good so who cares quality over quantity in this case you can explain what this means

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that the the fundamental nature of her soul of her being of her existence in her own eyes there's always going to be that as she progresses until she overcomes this fear of failure she can help a billion a trillion she's still going to get back to that same spot you're going to have to choose and you're going to have to choose to overcome your fears okay yes the way you're

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posing the question it sounds very consequentialist with ethics like we're caring about the outcome but this would have been in a time of like aristotelian virtue ethics and so we would be caring far more about the four virtues than

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than the outcome okay but but i i understand this i understand this different time i'm saying like um in the grand scheme of things if this person ricardo is helping a billion people live happier lives who cares what her motivation is who cares why she's doing any of this right i'm saying i'm seeing this not in any kind i'm just saying like generally speaking the general

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principle yeah um it's the constantine argument all over again so you watch the movie constantine so constantine did some bad things and then he tried to save himself by doing a lot of good things in his case it was exercising demons and he got really mad when god and his angels kept telling him that oh you're going to go to hell anyways and he asked the angel why can't i go to hell and he was like oh it's because none of the things you did was selfless you see ricardo helped all of these people live better lives but these people literally have nothing to do with her own soul like when god god is not judgmental when god looks at you let's say when he looks at you he he does not see your deeds he sees your salvation through your spirit and in this case she has not attained salvation through her spirit she

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has tried to use good deeds to make up her

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but she has not attained this yeah that that is correct yes that is closer to what i want yes

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anyone else yes yeah but i think this make me have question because i just want to know the difference between the demon and god because demon also said that i mean to be god so i mean demons the demons there are no demons there's only god oh the only god right so so therefore i think the god is obviously give you something for not only return but the crane maybe just try to make a deal with you or maybe just you know sign a track contract or what okay okay guys okay all

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right um so we could be here like all day okay but but let me explain what the idea here is to understand what's going on i need to explain to you emmanuel pont's categorical imperative okay the category imperative by emmanuel pont and there are three principles to the category imperative which is the highest moral law in the universe okay the rule of life that allows you to be closer to god the category imperative okay so the first idea is um you are a reflection of the universe so just imagine that whatever you do the entire universe will do if you laugh the universe laughs with you if you are angry the universe is angry with you okay so imagine that you are angry and you are like she's like an angel okay but then she's like she's like a god and if you're angry you turn into a god and you because she's angry at

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you then you become cautious and you become curious and you become cautious and then you become curious okay so the kind of estimate that emmanuel pont uses for her philosophy is that she's like an angel she's like a real angel she's an angel she's a god she's a goddess and we're just doesn't really matter if she made a billion people richer. It doesn't matter, okay? The universe is poorer because of her fear, of her lack of faith. That's number one. Number two is free will. Everything you do, you do because it is your choice. So back to the original point, which is you're like, I have to go help. If I go help a billion people, then I should be able to go to heaven, right? Or Constantine's saying, well, I killed a lot of demons, so therefore I should go to heaven. That's not the way it works, okay? Everything you do has to be because of free will.

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And the last is humans are the ultimate end, okay? You cannot say, okay, to save a billion people, I need to kill that one person. That goes against the category imperative. I know it sounds stupid. Wait a minute, I kill one person, I save a billion people? You can't do that, okay? That's not how the universe works. Every soul, is precious to God. Every soul is unique to God. Therefore, you cannot kill another soul in order to advance a greater good, okay? God would never, ever ask you to kill someone else in order to achieve a higher good. So this is the category imperative. And the category imperative is really a way for us to understand the morality of Dante's cosmology, of his universe, okay? Does that make sense? Does that make sense? Does that make sense? Does that make sense? Does that make sense? That's why there's no way for Picard to redeem herself in the eyes of God, all right?

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So this raises an interesting question. What can Picard do to redeem herself then, according to the category imperative, according to Dante? How? Well, if she becomes queen and she saves a billion people, that doesn't work. So what can she do? She can run away and go back to the nunnery.

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Yes, that is a possibility, yes. Maybe just sharing as much love as she can to her, like, children. That's no different from making billion people happier, right? Yeah, but it would be more, like, personal and, like, connected to the soul, I guess. Like, because also giving money to people isn't really about love, in a way.

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Yeah, yeah, but why is she being, but why is she loving her children so much? Why is she so nice to her children then? It goes back to the Constantine problem, right? It's the same thing where Constantine was doing a lot of good by killing these demons, and God says, we don't care. Same thing where, you know, if Picard has 10 kids and they all love her and she loves them back, God's not going to care either. The same situation, right? So I'm saying, what can she do to redeem herself in the eyes of God? Yes, then you. Well, if there's no way, then there's no free will, right? So there has to be a way, yes? Repent. How? I'm just asking this question. How can you repent? Yes?

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If there's free will, then her, like, her will should be able to change. So, like, instead of wanting to be closer to God, thus being an enemy, she could change her free will. She'd change her will.

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How? I don't understand.

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Like, her will is now, I will be a good king and a good mother, a queen and a good mother. We just said that. We just said that doesn't work. But that was because she was coming from a place of fear. If she comes from a place of will.

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Right? And so, okay, so now what's happening is that her contingent will is now harmonizing her absolute will, which forces her to do what? Yes?

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So this is, this is like prosperity gospel. Okay, this is really stupid. This is really entitled. But what if Ricarda just stops begging, begging God to like, oh, God, please notice me. What if Ricarda goes, okay, I am worthy of this now. Is she begging God for anything? Yeah, well, the solutions that we just proposed, like doing all these good deeds, that's a roundabout way of begging, to be honest.

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But is she doing, is she doing any of these things? Is she doing any of these things? Yeah, she isn't. No, she isn't. What is she feeling right now? Like, what's she feeling right now? She didn't have any, how does she feel? Content. She's pretty content. Okay. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. It's all hypothetical. I'm saying, if she really wanted to redeem herself in the eyes of God. What would she do?

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Maybe she can increase her will. I do want to ascend into like, a closer space to God.

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Exactly. Okay. That's it. Okay. Do you understand? If all she's like, the way she redeems herself is saying, I'm not happy being the dumbest kid at Yale. I wouldn't be like second dumbest kid at you or something, okay? Anything, who cares? But that wouldn't make her redeem herself in the eyes of God. Because now she's exercising more will. When you do that, you're showing your faith, love, and trust in God. That's what God wants. None of this crap like, okay, I'll donate a billion dollars to charity, okay? Or I'll be really nice to my kids. God doesn't want that crap. God wants you to love yourself, okay? So in other words, who really put her in the lowest sphere? It's herself, do you understand? It's all free will. It's all free choice. Wherever you are in the universe, it's because you choose to be there. Does that make sense? No one put you there, okay?

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When Picard says, God put me here and I'm thankful to God, she is insulting God.

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Okay?

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Because God would never do that to you. God would never make you the dumbest kid at Yale. All right? If you choose to do that. Am I talking too much about Yale?

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That's fine.

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Yeah.

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It makes it more alive.

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Right. Sorry about that. All right. Okay. All right. So let's go on, okay?

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All right. If in the fire of love, I seem to flame beyond the measure visible on earth, so that I overcome. Your visions forth, you need not wonder I'm so because of my perfected vision as I grasp the good. So I approach the good in act. Indeed, I see that in your intellect now shines the never ending light. Once seen that light alone and always kindles love. And if a lesser thing, a lure, your love, it is a vestige of that light, which though imperfectly leans through that. That lesser thing, you wish to know if through a righteous act, one can repair a promise unfulfilled so that the soul and God are reconciled. So Beatrice began this canto and as one who does not interrupt her speech, so did her holy reasoning proceed. The greatest gift, the magnanimity of God as he created gave the gift most suited to his goodness gifts that he most prizes.

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Was the freedom of the will.

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Okay, guys, do you guys see this? Okay, she's saying because God loves us, he gives us we will that is his greatest gift to us. Okay, that's how we know he loves us.

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I'm going those beings that have intellect, all these and none but these received and do receive this gift. Thus, you may draw as consequence the high worth of a vow when what is pledged with your consent. And counters God's consent for when a path is drawn between a man and God, then through free will, a man gives up what I've called his treasure is free will. What then can be a fitting compensation to use again what you had offered would mean seeking to do good with ill God gain. But now you understand the major point. But since the Holy Church gives dispensation, which seems in contrast with the truth, I stated, you need to sit at table somewhat longer, the food that you have taken was tough food, it still needs help. If you're to digest it, open your mind to what I shall disclose and hold it fast within you. He who hears but does not hold what he has heard, learns nothing.

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Okay, stop. Okay. All right. So let's try to figure this out. Okay. So don't ask this question. Ricardo did wrong. Um, but is there a way to compensate for what she did? What is Beatrice's answer? What is the logic here? Just summarize for me what she's saying. And the logic is this, right? God loves us. And God's greatest gift to us is to give us free will. So we can do whatever we want. Okay. And what does, what does Picardo do with this free will free choice?

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Doesn't do anything.

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Uh, excuse me. Away her own free will. She, she promised her free will to God so that the two are now founded together. Okay. So what's happened is that God gave Picardo free will, and then Picardo gave her free will to God so that, so that now they are eternally married, right? Very eternally married. You can't divorce. You cannot. You cannot betray the person. Okay. So what Picardo did was not, was not just not keep a vow. She betrayed God, right? That is what Beatrice is saying. This is pretty extreme. Do you guys, are you guys okay with this argument?

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So her mistake was promising her free will to God?

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Um, so yes. And what? And, and so like, do you think, do you think it's a bit harsh?

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You think, uh, oh, yeah, I think this is a pretty slippery slope to slide on. I, I think it's, it's, it's a, it's a slope. It's, it's, it's a, it's a logical issue. So you're taking something that's pretty small and you're blowing it up out of context. Like everything can stand for something like his, uh, Ricardo's vows to God can stand for God himself. And if they can stand for God himself, then he betrayed, then she betrayed God and it becomes bigger and bigger and that's a problem.

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Okay. Let, let, let, let's use an analogy. Okay. Just say that, um, a man and a wife got married. Okay. It's a marriage. The wife betrays the husband with some affair. How could the wife redeem herself in the eyes of the husband?

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Yeah. Well, actually this is very sensitive because, uh, uh, I think the loving affair is kind of a third wheel, right? So if there's a third wheel, then I think the wife should make apologize. So the God will forgive the people who make apologize.

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Okay. That's okay. Okay. So your wife cheats on you and she apologizes and you're like, fine, I forgive you. Are you willing to forgive her? Uh, physically, mentally, no. What can she do to redeem herself? In your eyes? If you're the husband and she cheats on you, there's no way. I don't think there is. I don't know. Okay. Right. I mean, okay. Let's switch it. Okay. You're, you're the wife and the husband cheats on you. What could he do to redeem yourself? Redeem himself in your eyes? What?

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Oh, out of battery. Yeah.

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Okay. Uh, yeah. There's no one over here. Yeah. Let's hear him.

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So I wasn't going to say anything. I wasn't going to say that he can't redeem himself. I was going to say that, uh, he can only be redeemed when I decide that he is redeemed. Like he has no choice in the matter. I decide whether or not he's redeemed.

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I think a better way of framing it is, uh, whoever that cheats, right? The wife or the husband in this case, if the husband cheats, right? How would the husband be able to redeem himself in the eye of himself? As in his own journey, right? As opposed to relative to, because this is judgment, right? If the wife needs to judge whether the husband is redeemed, that's what, so in the eyes of the husband himself who cheated, how do you get back to that place before you cheated? Right. So I think, uh, I guess the only solution is similar. Like you break the cycle. If you find yourself in a cheating situation, again, if you decide not to cheat, I think that's, Oh, no, you already cheated or you pretend you that you didn't cheat. Well, I'm going to talk about that.

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Well, in your next marriage, sorry, sorry, sorry. So maybe I want to reiterate what she was thinking because, um, humans aren't God. And so it was humans aren't God. Yeah, that's right. They're not gone. And so, but, but this is a, this is a judgment that the wife is dealing with the cheater and she's trying to regain trust, but God doesn't have this issue of, of trust judgment.

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I understand. I understand what I'm saying. Like, can you give me. Like, can you give me a concrete thing you can do to redeem yourself?

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Well, you'd change your character and then you would gain trust by that change character. So someone who cheats at 18, maybe they don't cheat at 40. So it just takes time and regain trust. But, but, but, but how can you regain trust? By not cheating in the future. I mean, by being a different person, you can't go back in time and not an uncheat, right? So all you're going to do is, is find yourself like he's saying, and like she's saying, you're just not going to do it. You're going to be a different person.

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What's the problem with cheating? Can we first explain why, look, okay. So you have this random one night affair. Who cares? What, what does it matter?

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Yeah, sure. I think, uh, you know, just like a Clinton used to say, I just have a, uh, I don't have sex relationship with the girl, but he said, I have to have sex. So a relationship maybe is, is kind of thing is more than. Three times for sex, that is relationship for once. I think it's a mistake. It's okay. It can't be. I understand.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yes.

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Uh, I think the only way would be if the party who sort of committed the sin did the cheating, the other partner can see that they feel genuinely, uh, bad for what they did. Cause you can cheat and not really care.

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I would just say, I understand, I understand all this, but I'm saying like, okay, first let's establish what cheating does. Why is cheating a bad thing? Like who cares?

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Yes, because you have broken a vow, a covenant and you have to redeem or paid in blood.

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What vow?

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So if they are married, then it's the vow that they made before God, that they're going to be men and wife till death do them part.

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And how do they make this vow in front of God? And what do they, how do they make this vow?

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Uh, yeah. Um, at a ceremony.

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At a ceremony. And what do they do? They spoke it out.

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They spoke it. They signed it. They spoke it out loud. Yeah.

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Okay. Do you understand?

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Mm -hmm all right.

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So there's now this bond.

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Yeah.

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Right. Yes. So when you cheat, what you're doing is you're, you're breaking this bond. That's a problem. Yeah.

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It's a huge thing, especially in the covenant, right? Because covenant basically means if you break it, you have to die or pay the price. I shall be like the animal that got cut in half. That's the initial covenant that was in the Bible.

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That's right. But so what you've done is you've changed the nature of the relationship from one based on trust to one now that is one of suspicion. Yeah. Right. Okay. That's a problem. The sex is not the issue. The affair is not the issue. The trust is the issue. Yes.

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So I, this is why being with God is better than being with your boyfriend or girlfriend because your boyfriend or girlfriend cannot read your mind. Like you, you can, you can try to convince them. You can kneel on keyboard and you can tell them, I've changed, I promise, but they can choose to not believe you. But the good thing with God is that he can see all of you. If you bear yourself to him, then he can see all of who you are, all of who you have become. And if you have truly moved on, if you have truly become a better person, then he will know it.

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Okay. Let me ask you this question. Okay. Let's imagine your husband and she and your wife once. Okay. What are you most likely to do next? Come on, guys. You'll do it. Okay. And then what? You'll do it again. And then what? You'll do it again. You understand? So you bring that vow, not only changes your relationship with your wife, it changes also who you are, your understanding of yourself, right? Doesn't make sense. That's why bringing a vow is that serious. It's not like, okay, well, I got drunk and I did something stupid. No, no, no, no, no. It's you've just changed your understanding of yourself. We can also say you change how God perceives you. You're like, well, God doesn't really care if I cheat. So I'll do it again. Do you understand? Okay. So this is what Tony is saying. These are very serious things. If you make a vow before God and before people, you're making a contract with yourself.

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And if you break this contract, you'll probably keep on doing it because it's changed the nature of your soul. Right? Okay. And there is no redemption for this. There's nothing you can do to repair this. Does that make sense? Okay.

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All right. Your question you kept asking us is what can we do now? And your answer seems to be nothing. But what's the problem?

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What's the problem with this? Why is this so serious? Everything else is like, well, you know, if you just want to change, you'll change. But this is really serious. Why? You've broken. You've broken your, your vow to God, essentially.

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That's right. And so what, what, what do you not do then? So I understand that. So you're just saying once you've broken your vow, then, then you might as well lay down and die and go to hell, go to inferno. But no, no, no, no, no.

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The point here is that you have free will, you can do whatever you want. Do not make a vow to God unless you're willing to die for it. Sure. Right. Does that make sense? Yeah. But there are things you must take seriously. If you can just speak out anything you want, well, no consequence, then this universe has no meaning by itself. So that was your answer, die. Okay. So let's think about this. Okay. You've broken your vow to God, right? And now you are in the lower sphere of heaven. What can you do now?

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I don't, I don't think we've come to an answer. Hmm. Renew the vow. Renew the vow.

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Okay. Okay. All right. All right. So, so let's be precise about this. Okay. We have another 10 minutes. Okay. And, and we'll, we'll let, let's really, really try to unpack this. Okay. So you made this vow to God or to your wife. Okay. And again, don't make vows unless you're really serious about it. Okay. Guys don't make vows unless you can keep them. All right. No one's gonna make you do these vows. If you're gonna make these vows, you better keep them. All right. But then for whatever reason, you have broken the vow. All right. Now, what I want to do is look into your psychology. Okay. How do you explain the fact that you broke this vow? What did Prakata do?

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Helplessness. I couldn't do anything about it.

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Exactly. Right. Like, like, yeah, I shit my wife, but you know, I got drunk and she raped me. So it wasn't really my choice. Okay. So, so you say I'm helpless. Then what happens? Your psychology. All right. All right. So I want to be precise. Okay. This is really important. We're trying to understand the mind comedy. You do something that breaks your vows. This causes you to feel helpless because you don't want to take responsibility. Right. Then what happens? Uh, the back.

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Kind of like what Eve did shifting the blame to the serpent and be like, it's him that times me. It's not me that wants to do this. And that's. That's what Adam did to essentially human.

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Yeah. It's the same thing, but I'm saying what happens to Eve psychologically. Right.

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When you believe someone else, you lose agency, you lose agency.

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And then what happens?

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Become passive.

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Really?

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You become passive. Yeah.

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And can you ever change?

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Yeah.

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And you won't be able to change. Okay. That's exactly what I wanted for Carter. Right. She made a vow to God. Very, very serious. Okay. The most serious thing you can do in your life is is make a vow to God. Nothing else beats this. Okay. That's number one. Number two is she's not able to keep this vow because she lacks the will. She's afraid it's her fault. She shifts the blame and responsibility to her brother. And then she just imagine yourself as forever lacking agency. This makes her passive and it makes her accept whatever comes her way so that when she. She ends up in the lowest spirits of the heavens. She's like, I'm happy here, even though she's probably not happy there. I understand. Okay. So it's not that we can't be redeemed. It's just like we dig a hole and we build ourselves in it so that it's impossible to redeem ourselves.

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Okay. Does that make sense, guys? Okay. But this, but this does not answer the question, right? What can be done?

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I think on the topic of agency, first, she has to take back agency. We've already discussed that. But she can't, she cannot take back agency.

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Why? Because her entire worldview is based on her lack of agency. Do you understand? Yeah. Yeah. She has to explain to herself why she didn't resist. The answer is she had no agency and her. And so she's like, we, but God doesn't give us agency. God demands our obedience. You understand? Yeah. But. But so with her worldview, it's impossible for her to exercise agency. Because agency is defiance of God. Then change her worldview. But you cannot change your worldview because it's your worldview. It's like telling a computer, change your software. Knowledge. It's your programming.

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Knowledge. Knowledge. Like, if we want AI to change their worldview, if we want AI to change their views, then we feed them a lot of that kind of knowledge. And the AI changes its views.

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Or she can just go take DMT. Excuse me? She can just go take a DMT and. Take what?

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She's already in heaven, man. That does no good in heaven. Uh, yes. Did, did you, uh.

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Well, I'm such wanting to be closer to God, I guess, like repent and move on. Or the whole Lamb of God wash away the sin and then move on. I don't know.

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Who is the most important person who has ever lived? Jesus, right? Why is he important? Why is he so consequential? Why do you have two good people believe in Jesus? Why? What, what does that mean? He can bring us salvation. Right. Okay. So does it make sense? Jesus is so consequential because he provides a solution. To an impossible problem. Which is how do you redeem yourself? Right? Because often you're in trouble because you think you deserve your fate. And for someone to come along and says that I forgive you unconditionally. I redeem you unconditionally. That's that's the most powerful idea in the universe. Okay. So, so I know it's not satisfactory, but one possible solution is for someone else to forgive you because you can't forgive yourself. Right.

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So what you're basically saying. Is that she has to wait for someone else to save her.

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And who would forgive her?

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Jesus.

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And who is Jesus?

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Yeah.

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God, right? And will God forgive you? Yeah. Yeah. If you turn towards God, God will always forgive you. So it's a question of faith. Do you understand? Like, as long as you have the right faith, you can always change for the better because you know that God will always forgive you. Okay. So that's the solution. All right. The solution is to turn towards God because you will never find the solution yourself. It's impossible because your worldview, right? You just come to the idea that no, I'm helpless. I must obey God. And God wants me just to be here for the rest of the rest of my life for all of eternity. Okay. All right. Does it make sense, guys? Yeah. Any more questions? Yes.

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Yeah. So I think what you have said just reminded me of the memory in which there is Christianity, the believer who said that don't always try to be like a king. If you want to be king, then if you do something wrong that you have, it's very hard to forgive yourself. But if you just, you know, let God to sit on your seat, on your seat, then you can be forgiven.

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Yeah. Okay. So this is something that's really hard for us to appreciate. But our actions change. Our character, you understand, if you commit sin, it's not like, oh, you feel really bad and like, you won't do it again. No, it's like once you commit sin, you begin to rationalize the sin and you do more of it. Okay. And then the sin eventually consumes you. And that's how you end up in hell. Hell does not exist outside of us. Hell is a mental construct. It's a way for us to explain away. Our actions. Okay. Does that make sense?

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Yes. So hell is not taking responsibility and not forgiving yourself.

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Hell is not forgiving yourself. Yes, exactly. That's what hell literally is. Not forgiving yourself. And we'll see that when we actually go back and visit the inferno. Okay. All right. But it's important that we first start off with paradise. So we understand the cosmology. Okay. Any more questions? Guys? Okay. So that's it for the first day. We have a couple of minutes. So let me talk about how you can make the most out of your experience today. Okay. So the first thing I will say is you guys need to go back and review what we just read today. Okay. Trust me. If you do this, you're going to have a lot more insight into Dante. Okay. So we've had this amazing discussion. We've read a lot. Thanks to Carol. But go back and review for yourself. Read for yourself the first four contos. And make sure you understand everything. Okay. If there's something you don't understand, come tomorrow with questions.

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All right. Just make sure you review today. Come tomorrow with questions. All right. So we'll spend the first part of tomorrow morning just answering any questions you have about this. Okay. So I'm going to start with Dante. All right. Make sure you understand everything. If there's a reference you don't understand, like who is Glockus, who is Daphne, make sure you understand the stuff. Okay. Just read up on it. And the third thing I will say is always trust your intuition and your imagination. If it feels right to you, it's probably right. If it feels wrong to you, it's probably wrong. Okay. So if it feels wrong to you, say it. Be honest. Challenge me. Direct me. Okay. Be like... And the thing about Beatrice and Dante, right? They're in heaven. And what do they do? They argue. They debate. They question each other. Okay. Excuse me?

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Such a great married relationship. Oh.

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Yes. Okay. Yes. No. Yeah. That's exactly right. Okay. All right. So that's... But like how Beatrice and Dante interact with each other. I hope that this can also be like that. Okay. Our classroom can also be one of constant questioning, debate, open and honest dialogue. All right. Okay, guys. So that's great. That's it for today. I will see everyone tomorrow. We start at 10 o 'clock. Okay? Okay. Thanks.
